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2:09Rob Dunewood: Oh, my friends, this is the Daily Tech News for Monday, April 20th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know. We give you context. We help you understand. Today, Huawei kicks off the era of the wide foldable. Oh, the passport style. Very exciting. I don't know if you'll be able to get it. I won't. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Rob Dunnly. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story.

2:36Rob Dunewood: Yes, indeed. Huawei launched the Pura X Max 5G. This is a foldable phone with a 5.4 inch cover display that unfolds into a 7.7 inch internal display. And those measurements might give you the wrong impression if you're not thinking of this as a squarish wide or passport style foldable. It also runs on Huawei's Kirin 9030 Pro chips. Huawei's Harmony OS 6.1 does not have Android, has Harmony's own or Huawei's own phone operating system and supports the Huawei M Pen 3 mini stylus. One interesting thing I noticed when I saw an unboxing, it ships unfolded. It ships flat in the box. I wonder if that's a way to keep the crease from being too apparent at the beginning.

3:26Rob Dunewood: The Pura X-Maxx 5G is available now in China for 10 ,999 yuan. Depending on when and who you consult, that's around$1 ,600 US. However, consumer business chief Richard Yu warned customers that the price might yet rise as component prices continue to rise everywhere. Something Huawei has an advantage of in China. Xiaomi and Vivo have had to raise their prices and Huawei has been able to hold the line because it makes a lot more of its components. It makes that Kirin chip, it makes some other components, but even Huawei is saying, we don't know how much longer we'll be able to hold the line. And yeah, this is something you're only going to get in China, Rob.

4:04Rob Dunewood: So you and I aren't going to get our hands on one very easily, but China is the biggest smartphone market now. And Huawei, as we heard last week, has slipped behind Apple in growth. It's still ahead of Apple in market share, but Apple has been catching up. So this is Huawei's chance to jump back out in front. And it's even only slightly there. I think Huawei's about 20 % share and Apple's right there, right behind them at 19. The interesting thing about this is that this seems like it is marketed as here is a tablet that can fold up and be in your pocket. As compared to a phone that can fold into a tablet.

4:42And I know that I might be saying things that, you know, it's like a distinction without a difference, but it just it just feels a little different because, as you said, this is it comes in the box opened up. I think that's probably more to do with we want to show you how big and beautiful this screen is when it's open, more so than if it's closed, there's going to be a screen in it. It's like a crease in it. There's going to be a crease in it because it's a foldable. That is just kind of a given. And if keeping it in the box unfolded somehow makes it better than if it's folded in a box, that means they need to go back to the design board.

5:13So I think that the way they're displaying it is to show you that, hey, this is what this thing, here's the form factor that we intend for you to use this most of the time. Unfolded big. You can use a stylus on it. It's like a tablet. But when you're done using it, you can fold it up and you can put it in your pocket.

5:29Rob Dunewood: That makes sense to me. is it gives you that impression of greatness the minute you open that box instead of making you pull it out and then fold it. And what do you think of this wide style, this passport style? It seems like that's what Apple is going to do. So while we're trying to get the jump on them, we've seen some mock-ups leak out that indicate that. And there are others out there like OnePlus that are going to do this as well. This is the next trend. Now, every time there's a foldable trend. You got a bunch of people saying, I don't think this will catch on. It's useless because it's new.

6:03Rob Dunewood: And you got a bunch of people saying it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm always somewhere in between. What about you? I have played around with every Samsung fold since the fold came out. I have never acquired one. And the reason because is that that phone feels like a phone that tries to be a tablet. When you open it up, the screen is beautiful. It is nice and big and you can do more stuff on it, but it doesn't feel like a natural form factor. So if you're watching video on it, there's a big margin at the top. There's a big margin at the bottom. I think what these with these, you know, these these folio style are going to give you is that when you open them up and you look at them, they they look a little bit more like what a tablet would look like.

6:44Maybe not the exact form factor to where you're going to get 16 by nine, but it's just it's closer to that. And I've seen some cases where, you know, some designs they fold and you actually are going to use the fold. They fold horizontally as compared to vertically. So you actually be, you know, folding it from the bottom to the top and using it that way. So I just think that this is going to, you know, without having to add a third screen to it, give you the option to have a foldable that just feels more like a natural form factor when it is in an unfolded state.

7:16Rob Dunewood: Yeah. Yeah, because the trifold is the other big trend right now as well. I think that that is interesting to note them shifting their priority to the tablet mode versus the phone mode. And when you think about it, it makes sense. If I care about the phone most of all, then I probably don't buy a foldable or maybe I buy a flip phone. I buy something like a Samsung Galaxy Z Fold or a Samsung Galaxy Z Flip instead of a Fold, right? So, yeah, I think I think this is saying what you want is a tablet that you can fold up and carry around a little easier versus what you want is a phone that you can unfold and have a bigger screen.

7:57Rob Dunewood: And that's kind of what I want. Now, this may or may not be easy enough to slip in a pocket. And that might be a deal killer for some people. I don't know. I'm bigger than the average person, Tom. Probably would be a problem. I know they're not designing it probably for, you know, for six, four and a half defensive tackles. That being said, though, I am I am interested in this form factor because for me, like I said, I've looked at every fold that Samsung has put out. And the problem for me is that I like to use my phone as a phone when it's in candy bar mode. So if I'm if I'm going to carry this thing to cost significantly more when I open it up, it needs to be something different than the candy bar mode phone that I have now.

8:37Now, to be clear, they are the screens on the folds are really, really nice when you're using them for anything other than viewing content or looking at it like like you would a computer screen, putting the keyboard down and typing. It's just it's just a little bit weird. So for me, if I'm going to go to that, I don't think that I would look at a at a candy bar that can turn into a fold. I don't think that's the thing for me. I think it is. Here's a fold that can turn into something small enough to put into my pocket. I think for someone like me, that may attract me more. And my gut tells me is that these companies have been building these things for years now and they understand what their audience is telling them that they want.

9:12You know, people have said this is what I like. This is what I don't like. And I think they're kind of taking some of those cues and saying, well, if people keep telling us they don't like how the thing looks when it's unfolded to view media, to view media, then maybe we should address that. And I think that's maybe why you have these foldable now that look a little bit more like a tablet when they're unfolded as compared to a phone that was unfolded. And you just now have a massive screen on the interior. Yeah.

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13:56there's more we need to know today let's get to the briefs cloud development platform company versell known for developing the react framework next js disclosed that attackers had breached its systems and accessed data for a limited subset of customers what makes this particular breach interesting is that versell says the breach happened because an employee had connected their google workspace account to context.ai context.ai disclosed the breach in March, which now believes is more widespread than it initially thought. The attacker breached the context.ai account and escalated the attack from there.

14:29Some clients have been labeled, excuse me, some clients had labeled information as non-sensitive, meaning it wasn't encrypted. And the attacker was able to find enough of these across multiple APIs and source code and database sets.

14:41Rob Dunewood: Yeah, this is, speaking of bringing you context, we're bringing you an attack on a company called context. But in addition to that, I think a lot of people will see the headline and think, oh, it was an agent gone rogue. And we don't think that's the case. There may be something in the way that context allowed access that involved the model doing something, but it doesn't have to be. It kind of seems like context just had its own breach, its own vulnerability. And we're waiting to hear more disclosure on that. In fact, you mentioned that they had mentioned a breach before, and it seems to have been more widespread.

15:17Rob Dunewood: And it's not an agent went rogue and helped an attacker do something. At least that does not appear to be the case. However, it is an interesting vulnerability on its own that once you got into Vercel, that there were these non-sensitive data types, which on their own are not controversial. It's not like companies were being dumb and calling things non-sensitive that shouldn't have been. It's just no one had ever modeled this kind of attack where they could get enough of that non-sensitive data together to kind of decode like, ah, there's an API key. There's some source code that allows me a privilege escalation that can get me into a database.

15:57Rob Dunewood: And so it's certainly an interesting vulnerability in that respect. But I don't know that there's anything here that should make you light your hair on fire if you've been worried about security from the likes of OpenClaw or anything like that. No. And it kind of shows you that all data is sensitive if If you can get enough of it and make sense out of it and bring some context to it and context.ai, for those who don't know, it's kind of like a Google Docs or even like an office. It is a work suite that is AI baked and it just gives you a bit more analytics and analysis in there. So it's just kind of interesting that the tool that is kind of like Workspace, kind of like the thing is giving you some more.

16:39And they're the ones who actually, you know, you know, you know, have have a breach because one of the things they do is, you know, you can connect these other platforms to all kind of data and do some things. But they are the actual engine that does the analysis. So it's just interesting. But I think you're right, Tom. I don't I don't think that this there should be more alarm here than there is. It's alarming because this is a not insignificant platform. But I don't think that we need to go and say, oh, Agent Decay, hi, bad. We can't use it anymore.

17:05Rob Dunewood: Yeah, that's kind of the reason we put it in the show today is we know you might see that headline and think, ah, it's one of those open claw breaches I've been hearing about. And it's not. It's just the fact that it happens to be a company that uses LLMs does not mean the LLM was integral to the breach here, at least from everything anybody said. thanks to motang for noting this one on our subreddit the parents decide act has been referred to the u.s house committee on energy and commerce with bipartisan sponsors the bill would require any user of the operating system uh any operating system to enter their data of birth to both set up an account on the os and use the os significantly there doesn't seem to be anything in here that would verify that that date you put in was correct.

18:00Rob Dunewood: Operating system developers would have to provide a way for app developers to access that information. Could be the exact date, could be just age brackets, but there's nothing in the bill that would make the operating system go verify that date. It's not clear, in fact, if that would even happen. There's some stuff in the bill that says another committee can set up some methods later on, but all the discussion of verification in the bill deals with the operating system letting apps access the data the user entered. It seems like you can just put in whatever you want. This is actually similar to California's AB 1043, which goes into effect in 2027.

18:41Rob Dunewood: That law mandates an operating system, add a method to put in your birth date at setup, but there is no age verification and there's no penalty on the user for lying. The liability falls on the developer who receives the signal to honor what that signal says, but not to go and verify what it says. So this is a free speech issue in the sense that if you are honest in putting in your date, you could be prevented from accessing applications with which organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation believe you have a right to access even as a minor because they're putting it in as a legal stipulation at the operating system level and requiring developers to honor it.

19:24Rob Dunewood: But it's different than what we've seen in the UK and Australia, where they are going and verifying the age, at least from everything that we've seen so far. Yeah. I kind of wonder, is this the test case for that? Because I don't want to say that the information is useful. I would imagine that there'll be some people that will actually put their actual date in. But if there's nothing that goes to check to see if that's the case, it's just if you're honest, then you may be able to use this thing. If you're honest, you may not be able to use this thing. So maybe dishonesty will rue the day for folks who want to use the thing that requires them to be of a certain age.

19:58But I do wonder, is this maybe just a test case? Let's see if we can't get this passed. And if we can, then we come back and we strengthen it with, oh, hey, operating system, you now need to verify these dates that you've been collecting from folks. Yeah.

20:10Rob Dunewood: And there's plenty of precedent for that worldwide for them to make that a second step. It may be that this is the only thing they think they could get passed now. And by the way, this hasn't been passed. This is just a bill that's been proposed. The fact that it's very similar to the California bill that is law, or I guess it's not a bill. The fact that this U.S. bill is similar to the California law has raised a lot of eyebrows. They're like, well, if you can get it passed to California and got bipartisan support in the House, you might be able to get it passed in Congress this time. I think the idea is we want to look like we did something.

20:42Rob Dunewood: So we pass a law. And the actual useful part is if you're a parent and you set up your child's computer, you can put in their birth date and that will be a speed bump on the road to them accessing certain applications that are only meant for adult users. Yeah, it kind of feels like I'm listening to a sprinkler hit my the side of my house right now and it kind of reminds me of those neighbors who will turn their sprinkler system on for like two minutes and it's like okay well you turned it on you got the grass wet but did you actually really do anything only allowing it to run for 120 seconds if you're a parent who sets up your child's computer it is it is useful for that that's a small use case maybe that's your two minute sprinkler use case I don't know.

21:30After Anthropics CEO Dario Emide met with the U.S. White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles and Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent, both sides called the meaning productive. And Axios sources say that they will focus on ways to use Anthropics mythos models outside the Department of Defense. Meanwhile, more sources tell Axios that the U.S. National Security Agency and counterparts in the U.K. are using mythos already. and usage of anthropics. Other tools have widened in the U.S. military despite an ongoing legal battle, which the department has attempted to declare anthropic as a supply chain risk.

22:01Yeah.

22:02Rob Dunewood: Okay. So I don't pretend to understand what's going on here, but there's a couple of things I do know. One is even when the U.S. declared anthropic a supply chain risk, they gave everyone six months to wind down their use. So technically, there's nothing unusual about the US military continuing to use Anthropic. I guess they are defying the idea of winding down if they're increasing it. But even the National Security Agency, which is part of the Department of Defense or under the supervision of the Department of Defense, is not violating anything at the moment. Also, Anthropic won one of their attempts to get an injunction on being declared a supply chain risk.

22:44Rob Dunewood: So you can argue that nobody really needs to pay attention to this until those court cases are done. It's clear that parts of the U.S. government would like to work with Anthropik and find their tools very useful. And so I think that's going to happen. Then the X that we have to solve for is, so what happens with those court cases? What happens with declaring them a supply chain risk? How do they resolve that? I'm guessing they settle out of court at some point, but it doesn't seem like all parts of the U.S. government are talking to each other on this. It seems to me like what's happening is exactly what Anthropic says happened.

23:21We upset the government and they punished us. That's to me what this looks like. Now, let me be clear. I am not a lawyer. I did not go to law school, but I have watched the entire series of suits. So I've watched a lot of TV. You got some. This just looks like you didn't do what we wanted you to do. So we're just going to cause you problems. And you know, that's very problematic on a lot of levels. This is generally not what you see the government doing, but certainly not doing in public like this, right?

23:50Rob Dunewood: If it happens, it might happen in a conference room behind closed doors and you never understand about it. If we were to do research, we could go back and find from other administrations, you know, throughout literally the time the computers have been computers to where the government didn't like something that a company did and they made it clear that they didn't like it. They just didn't put it on the news. They just said, we're just not going to buy it. Or, you know, or, you know, we're in sequester right now. We'll get back to paying you maybe next year. Those are the kind of things that the government generally does.

24:20This is something different. This feels very, very punitive. Once again, I don't know, maybe they have a lock solid case and we will see. It's just very interesting to me that the stuff that you say is a supply chain risk, meaning that it is very dangerous to use, you continue to use ad nauseum.

24:34Rob Dunewood: Yeah, I guess I don't disagree too much, although I would characterize it more as a temper tantrum. And now somebody has to figure out how to deal with the fallout of the temper tantrum because everybody seems to want to use Anthropix products. And so how do we gracefully extricate ourselves from declaring them a supply chain risk? This is not that different. You go listen to some of the White House tapes from Lyndon Baines Johnson, you'll hear similar kind of stuff. It's just, we never heard about that on the news, like we were saying. So this is going to be a little trickier to resolve because it's in public, but it'll get resolved.

25:13Rob Dunewood: That's my takeaway here is like, yeah, there was a lot of sturm and drang about this, but in the end, what's going to happen is Anthropic is going to be selling its products to the US government. And the other thing too temper tantrum it may be but this is a temper tantrum by the biggest entity that can sell that they can be sold to in north and south america combined so when you look at it like that except it appears temper tantrum was by one or maybe two people within that organization and the rest of the organization is like well actually we'd actually like to use these we're just going keep using them hopefully they'll calm down over there so yeah uh anyway uh it is a uh quite unusual situation but i expected that anthropic would not be shut out and it looks like they are not going to be shut out uh you know we like to do live streams of the show uh if you want to just sit down and chat with us in an even more informal matter uh come catch our live streams you can become a subscriber at youtube.com slash daily tech news show.

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27:58Rob Dunewood: All right, now let's get to some quick headlines that are good things to know. Honor won the second annual Beijing Humanoid Robot Half Marathon, completing the course in 50 minutes and 26 seconds, a few minutes faster than the world record set last month by Uganda's Jacob Kiplamo. Yeah, and that's way better than last year's inaugural half marathon where all the robots fell over. I think one of them took like two hours and 47 minutes to finish. This thing was getting it. Now, they could put wheels on it and it could definitely get it done a lot quicker. But for a robot that runs, it was running pretty darn fast.

28:33Rob Dunewood: Yeah, yeah, it was pretty good. Speaking of putting wheels on something, Siemens did that. Siemens, NVIDIA and UK robotics company Humanoid announced the successful deployment of an autonomous human robot on wheels, the HMND-01 Alpha, which completed an eight-hour shift of moving containers around at a factory in Germany with a success rate above 90%. Now, here's the question. What is the success rate of humans doing this work? I know. I was wondering the same thing. I couldn't find an answer, though. NASA has posted more images taken of the Artemis II mission to nasa.gov forward slash gallery.

29:08These are the images that were not transmitted back to Earth during the mission, and I cannot wait to go take a look at them myself.

29:13Rob Dunewood: Yeah, no, if you looked earlier, you might have found a few of these, but they've really added a bunch. Some really impressive shots of the moon. These are things that they were taking out the window. So, so good. NASA has also announced a program called Big Bang, the Big Bang, which will improve energy efficiency on the 48-year-old Voyager spacecraft set to deploy to Voyager 2 in May and Voyager 1 in July. uh so keeping this four-year mission that launched in 1977 uh up up and running a little longer than it was supposed to it is it is truly amazing how how long this thing has worked and how far away from earth it's actually gotten it is truly amazing jeff bezos blue origin space company failed to place an ast space mobile satellite in the proper audit but it did successfully reuse one of its new glen rockets yeah problem is if the glen rocket was the reason that the satellite orbiting failed then that's not good but at least they did successfully reuse it one plus confirmed that the ace 6 ultra phone which is coming out april 28th will have a game controller style dock it can slot into to turn it into a handheld gaming device microsoft insiders are getting multiple changes to file explorer in windows 11 meant to improve its speed and performance, including fixes for the white flash that happens when you launch File Explorer in dark mode.

30:37Rob Dunewood: I have not seen that myself, but it looks really annoying in the videos I've seen that people have. And I use dark mode and I can't say that I've ever noticed it, honestly. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what triggers it, but thankfully they got a fix. Adobe released a set of agents for corporate customers called CX Enterprise. This is to help automate things like marketing, customer engagement, sales, stuff like that. Apple has declined to submit financial information requested by the competition commission of india as it fights to get the investigation paused by the courts apple risk a fine if it does not comply which apple says could max out at 38 billion dollars music platform deezer which you know i know is not the biggest music platform but it's got a lot of users estimates that 44 of new songs uploaded to its platform each day are generated by machines that part probably doesn't surprise you however that That music makes up one to 3 % of all the music streamed by Deezer's users.

31:30Rob Dunewood: So it does not appear that uploading generated music usually is successful. The information sources say Google's Sergey Brin has told DeepMind staff that they must pivot to catch up on agents, while the company has also created a strike team to improve coding models. Yeah, it looks like Google is trying to catch up with Anthropic and OpenAI, who are leading the coding race. We are definitely in the horse race era of these kinds of models. We definitely are. It's like every week we hear new announcements of what company is trying to do, what to one up on the next one. Yeah. Well, folks, we end every episode with something from the audience.

32:05Today is an email from Laurent.

32:07Rob Dunewood: Yes. Laurent writes about physical intelligence. We were mentioning last week a company called Physical Intelligence and the concept of physical intelligence, which is putting AI into a robot. That's how you get the robot that can finish the marathon autonomously. You put some physical intelligence in there. Laurent writes, will the human level test be programming a VCR? Can we make that the Turing test for robotics? If it can actually program an old fashioned VCR on its own, then physical intelligence. We call it that. Great idea, Laurent. Awesome idea. And it just takes me back. Tom, you and I are both old enough to remember when we got our first VCRs, or maybe not our first, but when we were old enough to actually program them.

32:51And it was not for the faint at heart. It required you to actually read a manual and probably several pages of it.

32:56Rob Dunewood: Yeah, yeah. It was not intuitive. I'll put it that way. Folks, we want to know what you're thinking about. So if you've got some insights into a story, please, please, please share it with us at feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. Yeah, thanks to Lorette for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You're the folks who keep us in business. Become a patron if you haven't already. It's easy to do. Get you a bunch of bonus stuff. You can even do it for free just to try it out. Patreon.com slash DTNS.

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34:09Rob Dunewood: Start speaking with Babbel today. Get up to 55 % off your Babbel subscription right now at babbel.com slash acast. Spelled B-A-B-B-E-L dot com slash acast. Rules and restrictions may apply. This episode is brought to you by Capital One. Capital One's tech team isn't just talking about multi-agentic AI. They already deployed one. It's called Chat Concierge and it's simplifying car shopping. Using self-reflection and layered reasoning with live API checks, it doesn't just help buyers find a car they love. It helps schedule a test drive, get pre-approved for financing, and estimate trade-in value.

34:49Advanced, intuitive, and deployed. That's how they stack. That's technology at Capital One.