Your Hate for Thin Phones Saved the S-Pen - DTNS 5231

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2:27This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, March 23rd, 2026. We tell you what you need to go, give you some important context, and try to help each other understand. Today, thin phones are out, and thank goodness that has saved the Samsung S Pen. Oh, Lordy. This is going to make a lot of people happy. I'm Tom Merritt. And I'm Rob Dunderwood. Let's start with what you need to know with that big story.

2:51Thanks to RWNash for posting this one in our subreddit. Samsung has started adding airdrop support. Let's get there first. It is through Android Quick Share on the Galaxy S26, X26 Plus, and S26 Ultra, starting in Korea with a US rollout coming later in the week. And then they say older Samsung Galaxy S phones might get it later in the year. Pixel 10 was the first to add airdrop support late last year, and Google expanded it to the Pixel 9 in February. the feature on the Samsung phones will need to be turned on. It will be off by default. So you'll need to go into quick share setting and look for share with Apple devices.

3:32And then you can airdrop from your Android phone to an iOS phone, as long as that iOS device has everyone mode enabled. Now we probably have a few things to talk about there, but I also want to throw in this one. Korea's ET News reporting sources saying Samsung has dropped a plan to use a display that did not have the pen digitizer in it for the next version of the Galaxy S phone, the S27 Ultra. That would have made the phone slimmer, but it would have meant you wouldn't be able to use an S Pen with it because there'd be no digitizer. Instead, Samsung will continue to use a display with a digitizer and therefore continue to offer S Pen support in the S27 Ultra.

4:20Sources also told ET News this was because of your lack of strong interest in slimmer phones. The report also suggests that the lack of magnets for Qi2 charging in the S26 may have been because it interferes with the digitizer's electromagnetic resonance response. It's EMR, which is used to detect pen input. So if you're still going to have that in the S27 Ultra, that might mean you still don't get the magnets for Qi2 charging in the S27 Ultra. For a reaction to all of this, we head to our in-house stylus enthusiast, Rob Dunwood. You're a big fan of the S Pen, as far as I understand.

5:00Robb Dunewood: I'm a huge fan of the S Pen. Let's start with the AirDrop, because that's the easy one. That's cool. It's nice. Yeah, we'll make some things easier, right? As an Android user, and I think I can speak for many long-time Android users, we've just figured out a way to share stuff with iPhone users. So the fact that we are now able to do it built into the operating system, like I said, it's kind of cool. I'll probably try to use it at some point, but here's the thing. In order to use this, you have to use it in the least secure way with Apple users. So they have to basically allow everyone to share with them in order for this to work.

5:40Robb Dunewood: It's just easier to use WhatsApp. It's just easier to send in a text message if you know because through rcs it's just easier to share it in dropbox or whatever else we've figured out ways so it's it's cool that you can do it but this is not because apple is playing ball this is because apple has had to do some things in europe by law that make it possible for uh you know for samsung for for google who did it first with the pixel to to allow this functionality so like i said it's cool but i don't know that it's going to change a lot of the way that people use other sharing tools because it's not full integration like it is if you were going iPhone to iPhone.

6:19I mean, heck, a lot of times I send something by message from an iPhone to an iPhone just because, right? Even though you could use AirDrop and AirDrop's much less fiddly than it used to be. But going Android to iOS is going to be a little fiddly. I'm with you. I don't think this is going to make a huge difference. It might be one of those things that helps one of my aunts decide to go Android because she can still share the photos at the family event now and the cousins can help her understand that. But yeah, this is a nice to have, like you said. It's not going to be world-changing. Whereas the S Pen, on the other hand, is thanks to your hatred of thin phones.

7:01I've heard from so many people in our audience, they're like, why? Why do you make phones thin? Nobody wants a thin phone. Then Samsung made a thin phone, didn't sell very well. Apple made a thin phone, didn't sell very well. Apple's sticking by their thin phone, at least for now. Samsung's not, and you get to keep your S Pen. Rob, you must be happy.

7:17Robb Dunewood: I am very happy because I'm one of those people, I'm one of those weird folks that I use my S Pen a lot. Now, I'd be lying to you if I told you I use it every day because I don't use it every single day. But when I use it, I probably use it multiple times per day. So for me to say that I probably used my S Pen 30 times last week is not an exaggeration because I literally jot stuff down all the time. It's just a way that I can get notes into my phone very, very quickly. So for me, I am not interested in any phone that doesn't have an S Pen. In fact, I've said this many, many times. Many people think because I am a Windows user and an Android user that I'm somehow not a fan of Apple products.

7:55Robb Dunewood: That is not the case. It's just that I like Windows a little better. Now, that might be changing because I really like this Neo that's sitting behind me. And we'll talk about that more in future shows. But I just like what I like. And the reason I like Android so much is because I use and have been since I've got the, I think it was the Note 2 was the first time I got an S Pen. I've never had a phone that didn't have an S Pen in a sense. So it's something that I use. It's not available on the iPhone. So for me, the non-starter with an iPhone is that, well, they don't have a pen inside of it that I can jot my notes down.

8:28Robb Dunewood: And that use case is so strong for me. So I am very happy about this. I didn't I didn't I've got incredibly large hands, so I didn't particularly care for super thin phones. But it wasn't that it was that if you take the pen away, there's there's not necessarily a reason for me to stay here other than I kind of like the OS. I could I could very easily go and try using an iPhone and see if I like that as well. Because once again, I've used iPhones. I don't dislike them. I just like the pen enough to where that keeps me on Android. So I'm very happy that they've they've decided to do this. And I will give up never having a magnet inside of my phone as long as I have a pen in it, because you know what I can do?

9:06Robb Dunewood: I can slap it into a case that has a magnet in it, and it achieves the same goal. I never use a phone without a case. So if my magnet is in my case and I get the same functionality, I'm happy with that. Yeah, that was going to be my next question, is if you care much about the magnet. I know some people do. And I know some people like the thin phones. In fact, if you're one of the people who really like the thin phones, feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. But evidence would suggest there are more pen users than thin phone lovers out there. And I don't think pen users are the majority of Samsung's users.

9:41So I'm curious if they will eventually make a compromise that says, yeah, we really need the magnets in the phone. Or whether they look at your use case and say, well, most people are putting them in cases. or do they do the actual work to make a digitizer that would not be interfered by the magnets, which would take some work, but is doable?

10:04Robb Dunewood: Yeah, I certainly hope that they figure out how they can always provide S-Pen support. Even if it, like, I don't want a phone that doesn't have a, you know, a S-Pen in it, but even if I had to move away because you want to make the phone thinner, but want to take the pen out of the phone and you have to get a case and have it, I would even rather have that as long as I have the ability to use it, you know, on the phone itself. As long as there's a digitizer that allows me to write on it, I would be OK with that. But just to lose it. And this may be for personal reasons. I've mentioned this on the show many times.

10:36Robb Dunewood: I'm dyslexic. So one of the ways that I actually interface with data is I doodle a lot. And that's what I'm doing with the S Pen. I create doodles for the things that I've written so that I can understand them in my own internal language. It allows me to just consume information. So for me, it is almost a usability thing that I get more out of writing something down and creating a little doodle to give me context and just typing in with my thumbs. Yeah, I was also suspecting a little bit because, yes, it makes sense that having a digitizer makes the display a little thicker. And if you're trying to make a thin phone, then you might want to lose the digitizer.

11:12I get that. But I'm wondering a little bit if part of this is also not bringing down the price of the parts, because putting a new display in there is going to be a more expensive proposition than putting an old display in there. because as parts age, they get cheaper to make, right? You get these economies of scale. You get these efficiencies that you develop. And with RAM prices going up and other input prices like storage going up, maybe Samsung, which makes its own displays, says, you know what, let's keep using that cheap display so that we can keep the price of the S series from going up too much.

11:52Robb Dunewood: yeah so i am i am definitely team pro s-pen i i was i was on the fence of do i want to get the the fold seven and when i saw that it doesn't even have that s-pen support i was like nah i mean literally as soon as i was aware of that that eliminated the idea of getting that i was like i just keep the phone i have and use my s-pen because for me it is a use case it's how I use my phone most weekdays. Yeah, I wonder if they would ever move toward adding the digitizer to the foldable. Because, you know, with the foldable, the thinness is a big deal, right? Which is probably why they don't have the digitizer in there.

12:31But would they figure out how to solve that? Is there enough of an audience out there like Rob that wants that stylus? Fingers crossed for you, man, that there is.

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16:13All right, there is more we need to know today. Let's get right into the briefs.

16:18Robb Dunewood: There are a couple of stories out there today that may be useful to those of you playing around with chatbots like Gemini and Claude. For beginners, Tom Guide suggests using the prompt, I'm new to using AI based on what most beginners get wrong. How should I be using you in my daily life? Give me a few examples I can try right now. And for all users, PC World suggests ending prompts with the phrase, ask me five clarifying questions first. It also suggests taking the answers to the questions and working them into the original prompt and starting over with that. Yeah, I thought these were really good suggestions for folks, especially if you're brand new and you're curious, right?

16:56If you're brand new and you want it to prove itself, like maybe not. But if you're brand new and you're curious, like, okay, give me some examples. Let's have you tell me some stuff and then I can judge whether that sounds useful or not. But I really, really like the PC World one where you say, ask me clarifying questions first. Because sometimes it will do that on its own, especially if you're using something like deep research on ChatGPT. But a lot of times it just kind of goes off in whatever direction it thinks it's best. And you realize like, oh, I should have given it more parameters. And having it come up with some questions for the parameters not only narrows it a little, but probably will prompt you to think of some things as you're answering them.

17:35oh, I should have also brought up this and added that. And the more you narrow it, the better your answer is going to be.

17:40Robb Dunewood: I think a lot of folks who don't use chatbots regularly or who just ask them basic questions, what's the way they're going to be like, who did this, who did that. If you're only using it that way, you may not realize how powerful these things can be and just how conversational they can be and the ability to continue the conversation. So you're right, the PC role suggestion to where you, you know, I have actually created prompts before where I'm having a conversation with the bot saying, here's what I'm trying to do. Ask me the questions that you need for me to better answer the questions that I'm asking you.

18:16Robb Dunewood: And it will shoot questions off. What about this? What about that? And it integrates all that into the overall answer or the overall information that you're trying to get out of it. It's actually really, really useful. So I'm not new. I've been using these things now for several years, and I use them every day. But I even go back to the first one here. You know, if you're a beginner, if you're a longtime user, sometimes just asking questions a different way that you didn't think about asking them will result in better responses from the bot. So I am a fan of both of these suggestions, and I tried them both before we started the show.

18:51And what did you find, actually, when you tried them out?

18:55Robb Dunewood: um so the the pc world one because i am a you know a deep user of these ones that actually that actually kind of hit because i got five questions that i didn't think about before i asked the question begin with oh yeah i didn't think about this add this into it add this into it so there were two or three things that i didn't even think about it's like oh yeah that would be good to get that information and then using that to re-ask the question a second time just reinforces it. So it's, it's literally, it's, it's, it's almost like having a study partner when you are going through the information that, that, that is kind of how I feel with it.

19:30Robb Dunewood: It's like, it's, you're, you're bouncing ideas off of someone as you're actually thinking about the ideas to get, to get the project done. So I'm, I'm a fan of using chatbots though. Like I said, I have a Gemini account. I have a Claude account. I just let my chat GPT go back to the free account, But these are tools that I actually pay for because I find them very useful. I think it's one of those examples of realizing these are large language machines, which is one of the reasons that I am banging on all the time. Don't call it AI if there's a more specific term that's applicable, because large language machines are good at language.

20:04And so this is an example of using it at what it's good at is saying, hey, you're you're really good at coming up with lists of letters that make sense as words. uh come up with some great ones that'll prompt me to actually start thinking more about it a good example over the weekend we asked gemini we want to take seven our dogs somewhere new that isn't more than say 20 minutes drive and would be good for on leash dog stimulation now i worked enough parameters in there that i got a really good result we went to a new park and it was great uh but it was a little steep right it was something i didn't think to ask it was oh, and make sure it's an easy walk or something, you know, like something like that, where, where that is something where if I'd said, give me five questions, maybe it would have said, do you want it to be strenuous?

20:49Do you want it to be easy? So yeah, I really liked that one myself.

20:53Robb Dunewood: Yeah. You could, you could literally be having a conversation with a person and the person that you're having a conversation with, let's say you're just having a conversation about one, two, and three, and they can say, you know what? I read a good book on two. It might be interesting to go grab a paragraph from there. The bots aren't good enough to do that yet, but they are really good if you say, hey, have you read any additional books on this? Let me know, maybe I can incorporate that. And so if you just think like, what is the question or what is the interjection that a friend might say, just actually say that to the bot and it'll give you the information back.

21:25Robb Dunewood: And it really does open up how useful these tools become. Yeah, I really like your study partner analogy of just bouncing ideas. That's really good. All right, folks, reviews are out for intel's core ultra 7 270k plus and they are very positive which is a much needed boost for intel it's a little bit of a shift in position though with amd as the leader and intel giving you the bargain processor uh because the general trend of the reviews is that you get a great amount of performance and productivity for the price we're talking a 300 chip for the 270k that is$100 less than the previous 265k, but you get more.

22:07You get four more efficiency cores and 900 megahertz more die-to-die clock speed out of the box. So people are raving about the performance, and not all of that performance comes right from the cores. A lot of it does come from Intel's binary optimization tool, or iBot, which is not just using software to accelerate. Intel describes it, and I think this is a pretty decent description, as a translation layer to optimize generalized x86 instructions for its platform. However, it's only okay for gaming and uses a lot of power. Not iBot. iBot is actually decent for gaming. The chip itself, the 250K, is only okay for gaming.

22:49It's decent, but it's not great. So if you're a gamer, you may not want this uh if you are somebody who really uh wants battery life out of a device this is going to be more for a desktop and it's going to use a lot of power this is also expected to be the last refresh on the arrow lake platform ahead of intel's nova lake release expected later this year um but yeah good news rob for for intel which is something they needed any news right now

23:15Robb Dunewood: for intel is good news as far as i'm concerned into i can say this i want to see intel win i I want to see them succeed in this space. So if they are able to come out with a decent chip, or in this case, a good chip, that actually is less expensive than the previous model of it, that is a good thing because I do want to see the company do well. They have not had a lot of days where you can say that the company is doing well. So if they can do anything to get back on track, this may seem like it might be part of that. And as I said, I'm a fan of Intel. I do want to see them do better. Yeah, and this is not going to save the company alone.

23:50right? But every win is a win. And I think it is something that if you're building a productivity machine, and granted, building PC these days with price is what they are, is not an easy thing to do. But if you are, this is a good option for you. The 250K is a good option for you. If you're worried about iBot security, there's a really good write-up on this on Tom's Hardware. It explains how this works like any application. So it's not doing anything in the chip that would provide a new security vulnerability beyond any other application, like it is doing it at runtime sort of situation. One example they gave was if something mistakenly got eliminated from the cache, iBot can kind of grab it and tag it and hold it if it identifies like, hey, that probably shouldn't go out of the cache.

24:37And then when you realize it shouldn't have, it has it, and that's going to speed things up because you don't have to go and ask for it again. So there's some good optimization here and a good price for performance. Again, I keep saying$250 ,000, but it's the$270K, Intel's Core Ultra 7$270K.

24:57Robb Dunewood: Yeah, it's a great price. And how the tides have changed. Back in the day, AMD was the scrappy upstacks that was challenging Intel. Now Intel's like, hey, we're still here. We're still kicking. How the turns have tabled. That is absolutely right. Well, folks, we want to know what you want to hear us talk about on the show. And one of the best ways to do that is in our subreddit. So you can submit stories and vote on them over at www.reddit.com forward slash R forward slash Daily Tech News Show.

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26:34Now some quick headlines that are the kinds of things that are just good to know. You're going to look smart knowing this stuff.

26:41Robb Dunewood: Singapore's Grab has agreed to acquire Delivery Heroes Taiwanese food panda business expecting to close the deal in the second half of 2026. That is going to make them competitive with Uber Eats on Taiwan. Gen Digital reported observing malware in the wild called Void Stealer. That means people are out there using this. It can extract Chrome's master key during browser launch to steal information. Has to go through a lot of hoops to get on your machine. So this is not something that's just going to happen immediately. But good to know that's out there. Another reason to always follow best security practices.

27:14And Google has not yet responded to this report. So we don't have a fix yet.

27:18Robb Dunewood: Google has made Gemini agents available in public preview in Google threat intelligence to monitor dark web posts to identify threats to a user's organization. That is also an interesting one for enterprises anyway. Microsoft issued another out of band fix. Yeah, they keep doing this. to resolve bugs in Microsoft app sign-ins. These showed up after the March 2026 Patch Tuesday update. I'm glad they're doing it, but it seems like they're doing it a lot. Yeah, same. Mojang Studios Double Eleven and Xbox Game Studios announced a sequel, Minecraft Dungeons 2, coming to the PS5, Xbox series, Switch 2, and the PC later this year.

28:03uh london-based black car hailing service wheelie kind of a high-end uh uber black uh which also operates in paris and dubai has now launched its service in new york as well meanwhile leon griffman

28:18Robb Dunewood: chief executive of private hire taxi company addison lee said autonomous taxis from waymo and tesla should be forced to have a minimum price in the uk to prevent predatory pricing and for context, black cabs, London black cabs have a minimum price. So I guess he's saying, you know, if you don't have a person in there, you should have a minimum price too. U.S. senators from both major parties have teamed up to introduce a bill. That's what's called a bipartisan bill. This bill would ban sports from prediction markets like Kalshi. Say, you know what, that belongs to FanDuel and DraftKings. Don't do that in the prediction market.

28:56Robb Dunewood: I'm actually not mad at that. That's probably a good reason to do it. OpenAI has hired former Meta ad exec Dave Dugan to lead sales. OpenAI CEO of Applications, Fiji Simu, spent a decade at Meta's Facebook. I'm just saying, OpenAI stealing some of Meta's old mojo, maybe not such a bad. And they're doing it regularly. It's like we have these announcements darn near every week. Wall Street Journal has an interesting read about Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg creating a CEO agent to help him get info faster. So maybe that's why, Rob. He's just going to have agents do everything. Nikkei reports that ahead of compliance deadlines for the EU's requirement on battery replacement, Nintendo is preparing an EU version of the Switch 2 with a user-replaceable battery.

29:41Yeah, but that one's only going to be in the EU. Oh, my gosh.

29:44Robb Dunewood: Please bring that here. Please bring it here. After more than a decade of development, DARPA handed over the optionally piloted vehicle Blackhawk H60MX. uh yeah in other words you don't have to put a pilot in it it's a self-flying blackhawk helicopter it's kind of cool yeah kind of until it becomes until it becomes kind of but you know if using power startup called helion is in talks to sell power to open ai both companies are backed by sam altman who stepped down from the board of helion helion is still building its first commercial scale reactor man i want to get real excited about fusion power rob but they need to actually you know build these at scale and i know helium is close so i'm gonna be real excited if this pans out and sounds like maybe it will maybe hope hopefully it will and i kind of think when something actually really works it will take off yeah once it does this is going to be one of those overnight successes that took 30 years well folks we end every episode of dt nestle some shared perspectives today andrew from colorado shares an example of why just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

30:56Andrew wrote, my software engineering team had just gotten access to Amazon's Q AI coding assistant, which is now called Kiro. And so in a fit of whimsy, reflecting my age, I generated an instruction set for the coding assistant to act like Q from Star Trek. Highlights from the instructions included treat all problems as trivial intellectual exercises. employ condescending terms of endearment like little human or mon capitan and make it clear you're helping for your own amusement dot dot dot i turned it off before the day was done it was so frustrating i gained a great deal more empathy for captain picard though

31:43Robb Dunewood: this is it's it's kind of cool in a way but i can see how with it these things are not where they will be in two years, five years, 10 years. So I can see how quickly this would become very, very annoying once you first turned this one. It sounds like this was actually an example of it working as intended. It was just that Andrew realized he shouldn't have intended it. Because you know what? Q's character, if you don't know Q was a character on Star Trek, The Next Generation, Q's character was meant to be annoying. And Andrew realized, oh, wait, when it works, it's really annoying. I know. And maybe I don't want that out of my coding software.

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