Sean Combs: Kanye makes an appearance.

14 Jun 2025 · 13 min

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Episode Title

Sean Combs: Kanye Makes an Appearance Description This episode covers the ongoing trial of Sean Combs, focusing on testimonies, courtroom happenings, and celebrity appearances, including Kanye West. The episode features discussions about graphic details related to the charges against Combs and the dynamics of his staff during their work.

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Key Highlights

Date and Context

  • Date: June 13, 2024
  • Context: The episode is part of a special series titled "On Trial," providing daily updates from the Sean Combs racketeering trial, where he has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

Witness Testimony

  • Jonathan Perez, a former personal assistant of Sean Combs, was called to testify:
  • Admitted to setting up and cleaning up after "hotel nights," which he referred to as "king nights."
  • Claimed the majority of his work involved business-related tasks, with only 1% dedicated to setting up these nights.
  • Testified that he assisted with logistics, including food, beverages, and occasionally purchasing items from sex shops for Combs.
  • Under cross-examination, he confirmed that Jane, a pseudonym for one of Combs' acquaintances, was never hesitant or unhappy after participating in these events.

Text Messages and Evidence

  • The prosecution read text messages between Perez and Christina Coram (KK), who managed Combs’ schedule:
  • Messages indicated involvement in the planning of hotel nights.
  • The prosecution aimed to establish that Combs was conducting illegal activities with the help of his staff.

Controversial Video Testimony

  • A video involving Jane and Combs was found on a work iPad, raising concerns about personal and professional boundaries:
  • Perez stated he was alarmed upon discovering the video and contacted KK about it, emphasizing that it was inappropriate for a work device.

Jury Update

  • Discussion about Juror Number 6, who faced scrutiny over possible misrepresentation of his living situation, but ultimately was deemed not deceitful by the judge.

Celebrity Appearance

  • Kanye West made a notable appearance outside the courthouse, creating a media stir but did not enter the courtroom:
  • His presence was interpreted as a show of support for Combs.
  • Speculation arose about whether he would testify, which was clarified to be false.

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Key Takeaways

  • Dynamics of Personal vs. Professional: The testimony highlighted the blurred lines between work responsibilities and personal interactions within Combs' circle.
  • Allegations of Coercion: Witness statements regarding Jane's participation could play a pivotal role in shaping the jury's perception of consent and willingness.
  • Celebrity Influence: The appearance of high-profile individuals like Kanye West underscores the public interest and media attention surrounding the trial.
  • Ongoing Legal Proceedings: The prosecution is nearing completion, potentially wrapping up by mid-next week, with defense strategies yet to unfold.

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Conclusion This episode provides an in-depth look at the intricate details of the trial against Sean Combs, showcasing the testimonies that could influence the outcome of the case. The discussions reflect broader themes of consent, celebrity culture, and the complexities of personal relationships intertwined with professional obligations.

Listeners are encouraged to stay tuned for further updates as proceedings continue.

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0:01This is On Trial, a special series from Dateline True Crime Weekly, bringing you daily coverage from the Sean Combs racketeering trial. He has pleaded not guilty to all the charges against him. I'm Andrea Canning, and it's Friday, June 13th. Just a heads up, in this episode, we're going to be talking about some graphic details and harrowing subject matter. Today was eventful, both inside and briefly outside the courtroom. The prosecution called to the stand yet another witness who once worked as Combs' personal assistant. According to prosecutors, His text messages showed the role Combs' staff played in setting up his freak-offs and maybe keeping them a secret.

0:43But the morning arrival of another controversial star stole the show. NBC News correspondent Chloe Malas is here to tell us what happened when Kanye West's Maybach pulled up to 500 Pearl Street, the federal courthouse. Hey, Chloe. Hey, Andrea. We will get to that Kanye West appearance in a few minutes. But first, let's talk about Combs' former assistant, Jonathan Perez. He was subpoenaed. He didn't want to testify against his one-time boss, but he did. Jonathan had such a calm, affable demeanor. I watched him on the stand this afternoon, and he testified that he really enjoyed working for Combs and that he still respects him present day.

1:28And Diddy seemed pretty positive during the testimony. and I can see why. So he worked with Sean Combs when Cassie Ventura's lawsuit was filed. He did, and he also overlapped with Jane. And he was one of the people that helped set up those hotel nights, but it was something that he called king nights. Yeah, now we have freak-offs, hotel nights, and king nights. And we had heard some of those terms in different civil suits, Andrea, that had been filed in the months leading up to this trial, but now we're starting to learn that they're all synonymous. Okay, so what did we learn about his routine of preparing for these nights?

2:12So Jonathan testified that he would set up everything from baby oil, lighting, getting food and beverages. There was at least one occasion he testified that the hotel room in New York City was under his own name, but he characterized all of this as just the personal side of his job, that 99 % of his time, that's exactly what he said, was spent on business, doing the Love Album, business meetings, and that only 1 % of his time was setting up or cleaning up after these hotel nights. And getting drugs was something that, yes, he had done. But again, it only took up a little bit of his time. He also testified under cross-examination when Brian Steele got up there.

3:00He said that sometimes work and personal all blurred together, and he has no idea if company funds were used to pay for any of those illegal things. He also, he testified, was required to frequent sex shops. Yes. So Jonathan on the stand said that he would get lingerie, he would go buy it for Jane, he would go to sex shops, but that he really considered this to be personal time between Diddy and whatever girlfriend he was with, whether it was Jane or somebody else. Perez also testified that he and other staff members would clean up the room after the nights. We've heard a little bit about that from other witnesses.

3:43So there's two ways to look at this, Andrea, at cleaning up these hotel rooms. The prosecution paints it as they're cleaning up because they don't want anybody to know about these freak offs, these hotel nights, these king nights, because they don't want anyone to know that escorts were there. They don't want the public to find out. They don't want the hotel to find out. But on cross-examination, you have Jonathan Perez telling Brian Steele that this was actually done because they didn't want the hotel staff to have to clean up baby oil and go into a really dirty, messy, chaotic room. And Brian Steele said, so you're doing this to be helpful, to which Jonathan testified yes.

4:25Okay. Okay. Chloe, what felt new today was that the prosecution read a number of Perez's text with Christina Coram, or KK, who was helping to run Combs' day-to-day schedule. Why did they read those text messages? We have heard so much about her. And the big question I get all the time is, is KK going to testify? And I actually spoke to someone familiar with Diddy's defense strategy, and they say that she is absolutely not stepping foot in this courthouse. Prosecutors are trying to paint her as a co-conspirator. Who was Combs conspiring with? And so when you're looking at these text messages today, you have KK saying is PD, meaning is Puff Daddy, at the hotel yet.

5:12To which Jonathan responds, he's on the way per security. And then you have KK who's liking the message. So what they're trying to do with these text messages, the government, is to try to show that Combs was carrying out illegal activity via these King nights, these hotel nights, and using employees to help carry out that illicit activity. The prosecutor asked Perez about an incident involving a video he found of one of the freak-offs and how KK handled that. What did Perez testify that she did? We've learned throughout this trial that Diddy enjoyed filming at times these sexual encounters with these male escorts, whether it was with Cassie or with Jane.

5:59And in this particular instance, Jonathan, he testified that somebody else who was working for Diddy found a video of Jane having sex with another man, potentially an escort, and Diddy's in the video. So this is found on an iPad in the house, and he testifies that he reaches out to KK, and he's like, this is not good, right? This is on the work iPad, and there's discussion as to how could that have gotten on there, right? But on cross-examination, you have Steele saying, okay, so this is a work iPad. you basically freak out when you find this because this type of personal video, you've never seen anything like it before on a work laptop or a work iPad.

6:47And you're concerned because this is personal. So Brian Steele is really trying to separate the lines that the government is trying to blur that there were things that happened on the clock and off the clock. And there were things that employees knew and things that they didn't. And Christina KK hasn't spoken out much since her name has been brought up in the Combs allegations, first in a number of civil suits against him and now multiple times at trial. Chloe, she did release a statement to Rolling Stone back in March. Right. And we've read parts of this to you all before, but some of what she said was that for months, horrific accusations have been made about me in various lawsuits regarding my former boss and that she's confident that these allegations against her will be proven to be untrue.

7:33On cross-examination, Combs' defense attorney, Brian Steele, asked Perez about Jane, pseudonym Jane, and whether he thought she was reluctant to participate in the hotel nights, as she called them. You have him being called as a government witness, and he's up there because he's worked for Combs for years. He worked for Combs right up until he was arrested in September 2024. This isn't somebody with a hazy memory who is talking about something that happened 10 years ago. This is seemingly fresh. And Brian Steele says, did you ever get the feeling that Jane was hesitant to participate in King Nights?

8:14He says, no. Steele says that she was a willing participant. Jonathan testified yes. Steele then says, was she ever upset or unhappy after a king night? Jonathan testifies no. Oh, that's big. And we also know. For the defense, yeah. Yes, and we also know that Jonathan was, according to his testimony, close with Jane. He would shop for her, not just lingerie, that she trusted him, that he had her best interest at heart. And he would see her often because it sounds like Jonathan Perez was a fixture in Combs' day-to-day life for years. Chloe, we have been talking this week about juror number six and possible issues with that juror, and you have a big update.

9:06So the issue was about where the juror lives, whether or not he still lives in the Bronx, and that the juror had been slightly confused but not deceitful. That's how the judge characterized it. We also learned that this came to light because he himself had said something to the jury's staff offhand. He seemed to have said something about recently moving in with his girlfriend and his daughter in New Jersey. So the judge said, even if he is technically qualified as to where he lives, there are serious questions about his propriety here. I just want to point out, though, that this is strongly being opposed by Diddy's legal defense team.

9:43So we shall see. OK. When we come back, only a handful of celebrities have come to Sean Combs' defense in the year and a half since Cassie Ventura's lawsuit. But today, one superstar made a show of support.

10:06All right, welcome back. So, Chloe, you were hearing yesterday that Kanye West is in New York and was trying to come to Combs' trial, and that he did. He pulled up in a Maybach, cameras swarmed him, and our own pool camera actually got it. Here they go, Kanye West! Kanye! Kanye! Kanye! Happy to see you, man! Kanye, why'd you show up today? Is he going to testify? Kanye, why are you here? Kanye, why are you here? Kanye, why are you here? Kanye, who are you here? supportive. But he did not go into the courtroom. He actually was taken to the 23rd floor. The courtroom is on the 26th floor to something called an overflow room.

10:49We've told y 'all about this before. This is where members of the public go. This is where media that doesn't make it into the courtroom that day go and you watch the trial on TV screens. We don't know why he didn't go into the actual courtroom. I did interview this afternoon a guy named Looch. He's a good friend of Diddy's. He's been in the courtroom every single day. And I interviewed him on NBC earlier, and he said it was actually Kanye's decision not to go into the courtroom. That was his choice. He didn't want to go into short nothing, so he just wanted to just show his love. And you know what I'm saying?

11:23He's not trying to be all in the videos and all over places, so he just came into the show some love. So there was some chatter that perhaps Kanye was here to testify, and that is not the case. We have no indication that he's going to be called as a defense witness, but Looch did say that he expects Kanye to come back at some point, so we could see that again next week. Kanye was at the courthouse for about a half hour. It's unclear if he was frustrated because he wasn't in the main courtroom or because they broke for lunch shortly after he got there and he didn't want to wait around. And I know from Luch that he actually left and had lunch with some of Combs' family and his kids around the corner.

12:03And people were just as excited about Kanye leaving. Kanye! We love you, Kanye! We love you, Kanye! We love you, Kanye! He ain't like nothing. Kanye! I love you, bro! We love you, bro! Chloe, the prosecution is still not done. They have a summary witness, and we could see a few of those. So they could be finished as early as Wednesday, and we could see Diddy's team start Thursday. Okay. And is there any chance that Sean Combs himself would testify? I asked that to Looch today, and he said he had no idea. That's not my ability to expect to, so I wouldn't know that. Is there a chance? I don't know.

12:41I don't know. I can't answer that. I wouldn't know. Okay. Thank you, Chloe. Enjoy your weekend. Thank you. You too. I hope all of our listeners enjoy their weekend. Thank you all for listening. We'll be back with a new episode on Monday.

13:18and Liz Cole is senior executive producer of Dateline.

From the publisher

Another former personal assistant of Combs was called by the prosecution. He testified that he set up -- and cleaned up -- "hotel nights," but on cross-examination said that he never saw "Jane" hesitant to participate or appear unhappy afterward. Plus Kanye West pulled up to the federal courthouse in a Maybach. He watched the testimony in an overflow room for about ten minutes.

If you want to read NBC's coverage of the trial, check out our newsletter, “Diddy On Trial”: NBCNews.com/Diddy 


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