Olivia Colman, Benedict Cumberbatch, a roast spatchcock chicken and a Zibibbo Sicilia

19:23Nick:Perfect salad chicken. Yeah, it's perfect salad chicken. It can work for anything. And so it's great. And we've got it with the cruciferous vegetables as well. I know, I had to look that up. I had to look that up. When I looked, I was like, what is he talking about now? Sorry, Benedict. So I was like, come on. What does he like? We've also done a wine pairing, Terra De Vita Organic Zibibo wine from Sicily. Oh, that's lovely. Goes really nicely with all the other drinks we've got. I love that. Really nicely paired with two of the content. I love this line-up. I heard this great expression one time when I was out to dinner where there was these empty glasses and this guy went, Angela, low tide at glass bay.

20:02Nick:And since then, my husband just woke up the next morning just giggling every time we're out. We've got WhatsApp, low tide at glass bay. It's just the best line. It's very good. It's very good. That is nice with this. Really nice. If you want to try this recipe, all the wine, you can get all the ingredients and how to do it on waitress.com forward slash dish recipes, which is all upon that. This is amazing. The simple thing about the taste of the sesame with the broccoli, I'm really obsessed with that. So, it's such a good flavor. I love sesame. We've got to thank Harriet for that. I was going, what should I do with this broccoli?

20:35Nick:She goes, go on, sesame. I said, there you go. I'd say you were amazingly relaxed. As the guys were arriving, you were like, how should I do the broccoli? You just made it... Well, we wanted to serve broccoli. Normally I do it with like Dijon mustard and a classic vinaigrette, but that would not have worked with all these flavours. So I was like, we need to do something Asian. And Harriet, I know, and she's the photographer, but she loves to cook and I said, what should we do? So we were quite relaxed about it. Shout out to Harriet. Yeah, get out of Harriet. Thank you. Absolutely nice. I'm sorry there won't be any left for you to try.

21:07Nick:I'll make you something. Imagine it, yeah. Ben and Nick Cumberbatch and Olivia Colman it is time for your fast food quiz oh fun fun a lot of quiz all you've got to do is tell us your favourite way to eat the following we begin with eggs poached poached oh scrambled but I'm very fussy about it's got to be quicker fast food quick fast food form of potato what sorry potato form of potato roasted roasted with rosemary what's your favourite crisp I like truffle crisps oh oh they're amazing chocolate bar favourite one I like lint salted dark chocolate Yeah, me too. You like the really dark, don't you?

21:40Not like the inedible cooking chocolate, but I came back from Costa... This is a long, quick-final. No, come on, it's all right. Costa Rica took a lot of coffee and chocolate with me in my bag. That's great. And what is your favourite Sunday roast? Oh, that's tricky. Chicken, but also pork with the crackling and the applesauce, spicy applesauce, chilli applesauce. My mum's pork roast, or what I'm roast, my mum's. Lamb, lamb with the anchovies and the garlic and the... So Olivia's is all. All in it. All in it. All in it. We'd crap have favourites. I've always had. Chicken, I do love to. It's hard.

22:17I try not to eat red meat, so I'm going for chicken. Go for chicken.

22:20Nick:And last one, favourite pizza topping. Blanking, blanking. I like the, there's a mushroomy one, mushroom and truffle. Oh, nice. A bit of cream on there, something. Yeah, very nice. Purantino, pizza express boy. We go back to the eggs, though. I can't bear a solid omelette. It's not okay. and I don't like scrambled eggs that aren't sloppy. Yes. People are wrong about that. You like sloppy scrambled eggs? Yes. Yeah. Not when they're... I like them sloppy. You shouldn't be able to carve into them. No. Sloppy. Sloppy. Yeah. It reminds me so much of school. You've just got like as much water as egg.

22:52Yeah. That was not right either. That was not right either. Yeah. We'll get this right. Thank you. We'll get the end right. Hey, we should talk about the roses. Of course, Bandy. It was our first date night, really. It was. It was. Yeah, we took a little date. I think it's a date night film Friday afternoon it was a date night film it was cute wasn't it we really enjoyed going to that together so fill us in because this is like such a fun movie that feels you know incredibly chaotic and it parts quite dangerous and it's obviously starring you two but what was the yes for both of you in that yeah we want to do this was it each other yeah we wanted to work with each other for a while we've known each other for a lot longer and we've done a few things sort of like yeah Olivia mentioned The Electrical Life of Louie Wayne and grown-ups went yeah we got an idea pictured to us over a few Negronis in Venice while she was doing obviously you're going to say yes it was the favourite time for me so I was doing press and these guys were all pissed on Negronis this is coming up we were actually doing a less as like oh not one pissed on Negronis and we had a meeting with two grown-ups who had the great idea of a vehicle for us to get together over which was David Greenbaum who ran Fox Searchlight and then our wonderful writer Tony McNamara it was a no brainer we went oh And I had one speed bump of going, but you can't really better that film.

24:08We were both big fans. It was so iconic. Late 80s, brilliance of Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner and Danny DeVito, who adapted it from an even darker book. But then Tony's brilliant, so we just went, yeah, go on, write it. And it turned out all right. It worked. It's brilliant. It really worked. Thank you for coming to see it, guys. Thank you. You guys play like the dream two career paths, Architect and Chef. Neither. I can do. But in another universe, think, maybe I could. I don't know. Chef's really hard. Well, you can speak to that. It's hard for.

24:35Nick:Yeah. It is hard for. It is hard for. The hours are nuts. So not these, not as much, but they are. I mean, it's incredibly hard. And the culture. Culture. I mean, I did it for six months, coughing and spit, but, you know, I got the taste of it. What, chefing? Where were your chefs? I was chefing. Where was that? No, I've not said that. In the last three days of press. 15 years you've never said it. What is your good idea? I don't find the last three days. It's a minor anecdote, but I kind of, yeah, I did to earn some money before setting off to India and doing what we did.

25:03It was one around the corner that was then renamed Arcadia. And the lovely Portuguese owner was just very keen. And he said, of course, if you come back in the kitchen, you've got like these chefs, you're like, who the f*** is this? And I really had to earn my stripes. And it was tricky being a friend of the boss. And I just saw it all. I saw that cooks just hate eating at all and just have McDonald's. I saw lots of cast iron skillets heading the way of a waiter coming in with a steak that was still too medium rare. I mean, it was an eye-opener. and I was just chopping away, doing a little bit of miss on glass, trying not to get in the way.

25:36I was spared the dishwashing, but I got to learn quite a bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I saw it for what it was, which is a really, really hard working bar. It's so hard. It has changed a lot since then.

25:45Nick:I will defend it slightly. No, no, no, it was a while ago. Yeah, it was a while ago, but it's just, thank God, I can't do those hours anymore. When you look back on, like, 90s, Sheffield, was that... No, I... Gordon won't dislike me saying this. I remember when I was working at the aubergine because that was the day. That was the hardest kitchen. Six days a week, nuts hours. And I remember going out to a dinner on the Sunday night and someone saying to me, do you work at the aubergine? And I said, yeah, yeah. They said, we hear it's like Vietnam. And I just thought it was the funniest thing ever.

26:16Nick:And I went and told Gordon the next day and all the other chefs were like, Angela, shut the f*** up. Why would you go Gordon Ramsay? Now he's trying to poke the bear. Because he's a kind of weird pride of that. But I said, he didn't, you know. And I, I mean, I saw maybe there was something mad about me, but I loved working for him. He came on here and Angela told him, she said how long were you working for him 17 years yeah Angela said to him oh Gordon I used to cycle to work every day praying he had been burnt down and he was like what because it was so hard oh if I get there and there's a fire engine that'd be great then we won't have to work for like a few weeks I have done those jobs and when you have like a fire alarm or something you go oh if only this could happen every day I've done that in theatre though you know yes I love my job, but there were times then I just thought, I want this over, but I can't leave.

27:06Can you say what job you wanted that to happen in? Go on, so when you're in most plays. I'm terrible, I have quite a short attention span. So doing months of the same words, I struggle with. I'm scared for a long time, and then once the fear finishes, I'm so bored. Oh, yeah. It's awful. And we did one play when the alarm went off, and I was like, yes! And I was out of my costume in seconds. You were like, yes. Yeah, surely we can't go back. Surely it's a wrap. Finally, this makes me think. She dies at the end. Wrap it up. But they got us all back on stage. That's horrible. It felt like you guys had fun on this film.

27:43Yeah. Yes, we did. So much fun. Too much fun, really. Sometimes poor Jay. Poor Jay, our director. Oh, our director. He's such a sweet man. He says he likes it, but I think he's paid today. I think he probably, yeah. What was the problems for Jay? Because you're having too much fun. It's like herding cats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember that dinner scene? You've got Andy Samberg, Kate McKinnon. I mean, all of them. But especially those two being extraordinarily brilliant. One of my first press interviews of this week was with Jay. And he said the dinner scene was his favourite. Most directors hate dinner scenes.

28:10But he said it was his favourite because nobody could change the blocking. We had to sit down. Sit down. Yeah, sit and just do as you're told. Exactly. It was just, it was so much fun. I mean, I knew it would be, but to actually experience it with her being a partner in crime and just, you know, The tennis you get to play with, someone who's that good raises your game. And it's just, it's bliss.

28:32Nick:But I think it's quite English for me. I love the sarcasm layers of it. The only tests that we've done are American audiences and they love it. Brilliant. Yeah, yeah. It's very funny. It's very funny. It's very funny, isn't it? Well, there you go. That's true, it's true. We all love each other's humour, don't we? I think so. American comedies sell so brilliantly over here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we're doing hair and makeup for these press weeks, I always have Channel 4 early in the morning, all of the old American comedies. Oh, yeah, like a bit of Frasier. Frasier. Is that what they show? Yes, every morning.

29:01Everyone loves Raymond. Everyone loves Raymond. Yes, King of Queens, all of it. Exactly, yeah. I'm just saying a trick. And cheers. It's about Friday mornings. No, every morning.

29:10Nick:Every morning. Yeah, yeah. Wow, yeah. She doesn't leave her house before one o 'clock. Constantly there. Can you take the children to school? Sorry, kids. I'm watching Cheers from 1991. That episode I've seen already many times. Sorry, guys. Woody Harrell, a very young Woody Harrell. I also saw in the film as well, there's quite a lot of great drunk acting. How's drunk acting to do? Because it can be bad drunk acting. She's very good at it. Really, really good at it. Thanks. I am quite method. Absolutely. Very method, yeah. We have some really nice quotes that we would like to share about you guys from fellow actors.

29:50Oh, gosh. Don't worry, don't worry. Benedict, yours is from a man called Tom Cruise. yes shit it's touching very high he returned my text great he said Benedict Cumberbatch fearless in his choice of films extremely talented so fun to watch and so fun to hang out with as well that's a nice quote from Tom Cruise that's my bachelor but that's right that's my bachelor oh oh oh I've just had a compliment from Tom Cruise and I'm drunk so I don't give a shit it's fine be fine I fell in love okay okay it's an area yeah I just had a compliment to Tom Cruise and I'm drunk. It doesn't matter. It's all good.

30:27I'm fine. I don't have bodily feelings yet. Don't worry, don't worry. Olivia, this is what Jessie Bookley had to say about you. I love Jessie Bookley. I love her. Jessie Bookley says, Olivia Colman is one of the best humans. That's good. Oh, that's good. It continues. She's the naughtiest person in the world. You don't know what she's going to do next. She may fart or burp in the middle of the scene. She's like a Trojan farter and burper. Yes. Wow. Three great compliments. I mean, I could say a lot of lovely things about Olivia, but one of her superpowers is that when I'm in a bit of a pickle, she'd often say, come on, pull my finger.

31:07Every time. But it worked. I mean, it's like, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. But Jessie is not pulling. Yeah. It's a, you are a national treasure, but you also have really odd superpowers. I think I was I was I was up up in the lentils because I knew you liked it up in the lentils yeah then something about a day baked beans in the morning no come on love that you need that on set yeah it's a little light yeah yeah you need that do you have to take a lot of time to like get ready to get into character each day like no no what no a little time at one point before rehearsals went how am I going to tell Jay I just I don't do prep I don't do prep so you do no prep you read the notes no prep oh yeah she knows the words she doesn't start not knowing her so but you can just be chatting about something and be like oh yeah we should do that afterwards and someone can go action and you can go I have sailed from the moon or whatever you can just do it wow thank you that was amazing but you can just do it like that add a push but I flannel a bit more and try and sort of I don't know add a push but I you are extraordinarily gifted at that you can just kind of get, sorry, as you said, a week of this.

32:19But it's true. So nice. Bigger roll. It's true though. Bigger roll. Come on. She's so emotionally intuitive and intelligent and funny as hell, but also really, really tapped in. It's just there. It's just there.

32:31Nick:It's quite easy in the sense that, you know, you've had different roles from Broadchurch, The Queen, you know, they're all different accents and voices. Just suddenly just turn on a different voice. Well, for the crown, we did have to, because, you know, she's... Very different. Everyone does know what she sounds like. Yeah. So I couldn't just go, I'm going to try it in Welsh. Yeah. that I would like to say that would be yes would I um I'm a dark queen guys just let me try something yeah exactly and was that something that you guys were like born with or was it something that you've like worked at over the years you were like oh we don't need to over prep we don't need to overthink it we can just do this yeah I'm still over prepping and everything I think it fits for different people doesn't it yeah like I said I don't have a very good attention span I enjoy it when I'm, it's exciting.

33:18When it's alive and electric. Yes. And for other people, they do it differently and we all end up in the same place. Yeah. But you are very good at just doing instant. You know, the couple of the really emotional scenes, it was so exciting because we were right there with each other. That did sort of come out of nowhere, but it's very good writing. You probably do more prep on a script that you're thinking, oh, f***, I don't know how to make this work. I'm going to polish this turd. Yeah. Sorry to say that when we're eating, but you know, it is. Yeah, it must happen. That's harder. And also when you're doing a script that's constantly changing, and that happens a lot in the worlds I've been of late, and it's kind of another Marvel.

33:53And it still requires your talent, which is to be able to improvise and play and be alive in the moment. I'm not really improvising, though. The Americans were amazing. Kate McKinnon and Andy Samberg in particular. That's another level, but I mean, yeah. I think, you know, in the Marvel sandpit, you would thrive. I can tell you that for sure. I know you've done a bit of it, but you need to have a lot more of it. Another Marvel, please move to Marvel. Would you like to fly? Yeah. yes yes that happens I want to do it mainly because then you have to get fit and you get paid see brilliant double one get paid to be fit yeah I feel like you guys are born to do this job you're both very brilliantly natural in what you do was it always the way was it always the the path and the vision and the dream what's yours though I don't know this guys it's been three days I know and 15 years before and 15 years I never really bothered to ask you this.

34:46We should have done this when you guys met. Yeah. Well, for me, I'm genuinely really bad at everything else, so it was easy for me. That's pretty much the way it went for me as well. Right, I tried. Did you try anything else? No, not really. Well, I learnt to type, which was brilliant, because then I could always earn my keep while I'm between no's. My first year out of drama school, I did 100 auditions and didn't get a single job. Oh, so good. Oh, thank God I can do this. And this is still so pathetically exciting for me. Even if no one's in the room with me, I'll go, what? So you did 100 auditions.

35:23So there must have been something in you that really wanted that. Yeah, exactly. I think I was so keen. I think they could smell it. And that's why I didn't get it. And there's a moment I thought, I'm not going to get it. And then I got the job. And I thought, OK, this is what I have to do. I have to go in disinterested. And I got it. I was lost for a bit when I got in a muddle. But then I would always try and make, pretend a plan after the audition. so to try and take the edge off my excitement. I think it's one of many of the reasons we're friends. I didn't need to know this because it's exactly the same thing as me.

35:52Did you? Yeah, I had a crap time out of drama school. I thought, okay, here we go, fully trained. Well, fully trained, it's a year, but you know what I mean. I just went, and tried to. Well, you guys have been in shows that have gone beyond success and life day-to-day must change because people must be like, oh my God, Olivia Bloody Coleman or Benedict Cumberbatch. Does stuff change when you're in a show like, you know a Sherlock or a Broadchurch or The Crown or stuff that just people love to consume en masse. Yeah it's telly isn't it? It's telly. What do you think it is about telly? It just reaches further.

36:23It's more personal exactly. It does reach further. God it's changed a bit since that moment for me because it was just at the dawn of the internet and Twitter really and suddenly the audience was all live and all virtual but seeing it on television it wasn't streamed then it wasn't you know it's very very different now. And I guess everyone on mass is talking about like... Still a water cooler moment. It was an event. And it wasn't like we had just three channels, but it was still something that could grab people. And so I'm talking about my thing, but I mean, I guess it was also an iconic character.

36:54So I knew people would look... Until that point, I didn't want anything to do with fame. I was very happy steering a path where I was lucky enough to be working, enjoying my job, working with great people. And then this audition came up and I was like, wow, if I get this, this is going to be quite a step change because just the character alone, and people are going to take interest in it. Yeah. Good, bad or indifferent people who watch it. Now, was it Kathleen Moran that told us about Benedict Cumberbatch's face? My face? What did she say? Well, it was, yeah. Oh, yeah, she did say something. So I remembered this on the way in and it, like, triggered my brain when I knew I'd seen you today.

37:24I don't remember that. And she's told us around this very table that you have the ability to, when you go out to a festival...

37:32Nick:Yes, that's right, I know that. ...or you're out and about, you can remove your face, as in, like, you can not look like you. She must have been on a lot of drugs. She said he can just do this thing. Kids, don't do mushrooms. She was talking about Glastonbury, wasn't she? Yeah, maybe she was talking about Glastonbury. We had a fantastic time to go to Glastonbury. She very kindly offered some space in her and her hubby's Winnebago, and it was a blast. Did I change my face? She said you can just have a knack of not looking like you. That was the first time I'd been in that big a crowd as myself.

38:03And so I was doing a lot. I was doing hats and all. But Glastonbury's terrible. for that because the minute you come out of any kind of hospitality thing there are just people waiting there with long nears and then people just pick the photo up but i guess in the crowds yeah you can you can just a bit my favorite is halloween my favorite is halloween yeah i went as chewbacca last year and it's just great but i had so much mask and stuff on that by the time i i'm you know i'd done you're drunk and various things and i was having such a good time because no one recognised me. I was dancing along to the music that a Michael Jackson impersonator was playing, but I couldn't really see where I was.

38:40And my children were going like that. And I was like, I've got a great time. And the Michael Jackson impersonator was getting really angry because I was sort of coming towards his cardboard and people would turn from focusing on him to dancing Chewbacca there. Dancing Chewbacca. And he was apparently going...

38:57Somewhere.

39:02someone might have that on oh my god please someone might have that and not notice you I don't remember changing my face in Cranstonbury I think I just tried with big glasses but you know I think to be honest when it comes to this sort of thing or a premiere or just you know being in a theatre or something you're in a theatre that's the natural habit of an actor even if you're the other side of it in the audience and I just I don't bother disguising myself with my family I try to because I do not want the attention drawn on them I want them to have the right privacy in their time but apart from that I just have to own it it takes an effort though it's very weird walking into a room and everyone well a lot of people might recognise you don't know anyone yeah I don't like it very much no no I'm not very good at it it's tricky isn't it yeah I don't tend to go out no which is the other way to get that yeah well thanks for making it out today for real oh no you're welcome when was the last time you were out well actually moving out of London and I never fell out of love with London I love it but it has helped me enormously to be able to go to big spaces where people don't look at you.

40:05And so now I feel like I can come back years later to London. I'm a bit braver. I've managed to knock some of the fear out of myself.

40:12Nick:And it's also got worse, I imagine, because, you know, if you say phones now, you know, when you were saying it, there wasn't none of that. You know, I've been worse. And I'm not any sense like your level of aim. And I'm on the phone and someone goes, a photo? And I'm like, I'm on the phone. I'm talking to someone. Or having a wee. No way. Can we have a selfie? They did not. Oh, yeah, I've had knocks on the door and the pubic door. Oh, my Lord. In the loop, when you're just coming, you're washing your hands. Yeah, I've had this. All right. Yeah. Not really anymore. No, I wasn't. Has it just stopped?

40:46Do you mind? Yeah, the pressure. Oh, God, I'm so pleased. I'm not at the urinal, for God's sake. Guys, we come to the end of the show question. We do. We can do 55 more quickfire questions. if you like. I'm having such a nice time. You've got to get the question right. My weekend is sorted. Well, you're going to take it away if we don't get the questions right. That's mean. We will. Benedict and Olivia, for your chance to win the Waitrose Goodie Bags, all you've got to do is answer the following question. Okay. I thought there were gifts. We've got to win them. You've got to win them. Unfortunately.

41:19Speaking of roses, who is the nicest smelling co-star you've worked with and you can't see each other? Okay, Olly Jackson-Cohen. Oh, wow. That was instant. Amazing. What does Oliver Jackson Cone smell? He smells of amber. It's by, who's it by? I met everyone who goes, hi, I'll let you stay a bit longer. I'm sniffing him, he smells amazing. Wow. Best smelling man in the world. Okay. Benedict, can you remember? I'm just to say Matthew McFadden, it was a long time ago, but I like smelling Matthew. I love it that he smells nice. I like everything about him, but smelling him's nice. Yeah. He came here, did you smell him?

41:53I'm really making that shit up. He smelled nice. I worked with him on Spooks for like five seconds, and I wouldn't smell anything because he was the other end of the room. Right. I can't, I mean, you know, I can't know. I'm going to lose now. Matthew McFadden. Yeah, smells of peace. Guys, thank you for sharing those into the writing stories. You win the bags. Yay! The goody bags are you. The Roses is out right now, so you can go and see it immediately. Benedict Cumberbatch, Olivia Colman, thank you so much. Thank you so much. A round of applause for our guests, everybody. Thank you. Thank you so much.

42:27Oh, thank you. You were brilliant. Thank you. Thank you. Lovely. It can be come every week. Yeah. Come every week. I can bring it to them. Yeah. We love you. Speak.

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