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Podcast Episode Summary: Romesh Ranganathan Loves Our Cauliflower & Spinach Curry and Fiery Margaritas
Podcast Details
- Title: Dish
- Description: A weekly dinner party podcast hosted by Nick Grimshaw and chef Angela Hartnett featuring celebrity guests and cooking insights.
- Episode: Romesh Ranganathan loves our cauliflower & spinach curry and fiery margaritas
- Guest: Romesh Ranganathan - BAFTA-winning comedian, actor, and presenter
Episode Overview The episode features Romesh Ranganathan, who joins Nick and Angela for a special Valentine’s Day dinner. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, including Romesh's busy schedule, his love for food, and his current projects.
Key Highlights
- Guest Introduction:
- Romesh has been on the podcast's radar for a while, with previous interactions on radio.
- Currently starring in *Woman In Mind* at the West End and promoting his stand-up tour titled "Romesh Ranganathan Will Change Your Life."
- Food and Drink:
- The meal chosen by Angela is a cauliflower and spinach curry, paired with a No.1 Gruner Veltliner wine.
- They enjoyed non-alcoholic fiery lime margaritas, allowing for candid discussions without the influence of alcohol.
- Romesh’s Food Preferences:
- Discusses his late-night cravings for chili oil and his fondness for donuts.
- Shares anecdotes about his family's culinary traditions and personal food ventures, including his co-ownership of a bakery.
Conversations and Anecdotes
- Romesh's Career:
- Talks about his experiences in stand-up comedy and the pressures of creating memorable content.
- Discusses the difference between performing in the UK and the US, particularly the varying audience reactions to his material.
- Personal Insights:
- Reflects on self-deprecation and how he views his own work, emphasizing a desire to create something he feels proud of.
- Offers humorous stories about family dynamics and his experiences growing up.
- Food Talk:
- Angela shares tips on preparing the cauliflower and spinach curry, emphasizing the importance of flavor layering and patience in cooking.
- The episode includes light-hearted discussions about past culinary challenges and personal food experiences.
Fun Segments
- Oven Glove of Ranganathan Love:
- A segment where Nick and Angela share positive affirmations about Romesh, highlighting his achievements in a light-hearted manner.
End of Show Question
- Romesh participates in a fun quiz segment, answering questions about his favorite foods and personal preferences.
Conclusion The episode concludes with a delightful exchange that showcases Romesh's humor and warmth. It serves as a celebration of food, friendship, and the joy of sharing a meal together, perfectly encapsulating the spirit of the *Dish* podcast.
Additional Resources
- Watch Full Episodes: Available on YouTube and Spotify.
- Recipes: All recipes discussed in the episode can be found at [waitrose.com/dishrecipes](https://waitrose.com/dishrecipes).
- Contact: For feedback or inquiries, reach out to dish@waitrose.co.uk.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPodcast Introduction and Warnings
0:30 to 1:03
Introduction to the podcast and a content warning.
“Dish from Waitrose is a cold glass production.”
Angela's Dream and Discussion
1:03 to 1:54
Angela shares a bizarre dream about Neil and chickens.
“And he had an outdoor tap and it was wine.”
Preparing for Ramesh Ranganathan
1:54 to 3:24
Discussion about guest Ramesh and his various projects.
“So this looks like, almost like a clutch bag.”
Ramesh Discusses His West End Experience
4:28 to 5:20
Ramesh talks about the challenges and joys of performing in the West End.
“I'm really good, yeah, very good, thank you.”
Exploring the Concept of Marriage
5:20 to 7:03
Ramesh shares his thoughts on love and marriage.
“I do think any job, any situation, kids, family, marriage, whatever, people just say, it's every day.”
Ramesh on Stand-Up Comedy
7:03 to 7:40
Discussion on Ramesh's views about his stand-up career and aspirations.
“We have a spicy alcohol-free margarita, so made with alcohol-free tequila and then like a sugar syrup with cardamom, chilli and lime.”
The Experience of Performing Stand-Up
7:40 to 8:40
Ramesh shares his feelings after performing stand-up shows.
“Yeah, can we have something that we can clip up?”
Humor in Difficult Situations
8:40 to 10:00
Ramesh recounts a dark story that highlights the role of humor.
“In my opinion, I haven't done the show yet.”
Food Preferences and Veganism
10:00 to 12:34
Discussion on Ramesh's food preferences and his journey to veganism.
“and they're showing you the way they think about things.”
Cooking Competition Recap
14:01 to 14:30
The hosts discuss a cooking competition featuring guest Romesh Ranganathan.
“It was the show you do with Rob when you go and do another industry.”
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Food Likes and Dislikes
14:31 to 15:25
Romesh shares his food preferences, especially about crisps and sweet treats.
“Should I go through food likes and dislikes and you get the food ready?”
Romesh's Bakery Investment
15:26 to 16:44
Romesh discusses his investment in a bakery and his experiences there.
“I wanted to talk to you about your bakery.”
Weird Encounters at the Bakery
16:45 to 18:33
Romesh recounts a strange encounter with a fan at his bakery.
“and every now and again I'll go and do a shift at one of the branches.”
Chili Oil Mishap
18:34 to 21:04
Romesh shares a humorous story about nearly choking on chili oil.
“I think I took them home to like, because I wanted to tell Lisa, I wanted to show Lisa what had happened.”
Dislikes and Alcohol-Free Choices
21:05 to 22:44
The hosts discuss Romesh's dislikes in food and his choice to quit drinking.
“Oh, he was having one of his late night chili oil tablespoon treats.”
Comedic Drinking Stories
22:45 to 24:14
Romesh shares a funny story about an embarrassing moment after drinking.
“I've got so many memories of just being a complete dick.”
Curry Cooking and Pairing
24:15 to 27:36
The hosts discuss the preparation of a cauliflower and spinach curry.
“So we have a cauliflower and spinach curry.”
Valentine's Day Memories
27:43 to 29:50
The hosts reminisce about Valentine's Day experiences and traditions.
“yes please I would love some I didn't know is that allowed?”
Celebrating Achievements
29:50 to 30:50
The hosts play a fun game to highlight Romesh's notable achievements and encourage self-love.
“But we did our Ramesh research and we found out you're quite hard on yourself.”
Romesh's Comedy Journey
30:50 to 34:10
Romesh discusses his experiences in comedy, including battles and performances.
“You've rapped at the Scarlet in London and have your own rap name.”
Touring and Stand-Up
34:10 to 36:20
Romesh shares insights about his upcoming tour and the preparation process for stand-up shows.
“Ramesh Ranganathan will change your life, was the name of this tour.”
Regional Comedy Differences
36:20 to 38:40
The hosts discuss how comedy varies across regions, sharing experiences from different audiences.
“There's a theatre right down the road from my house, which I do do new material there.”
Fast Food Quiz Fun
38:40 to 41:00
Romesh participates in a light-hearted fast food quiz, revealing his favorites.
“So you do feel differences, regional differences and stuff.”
Mixing Peanut Butter and Marmite
42:01 to 42:24
Learn the unique way to mix peanut butter with marmite for flavor.
“And peanut butter in first or the marmite?”
The End of the Show Question
42:45 to 43:35
Ramesh faces a fun question to win the Waitrose goodie bag.
“So, you can't even get a spot as a proper guest on you?”
Memorable Weakest Link Moments
43:35 to 45:58
Discussing funny and embarrassing moments from the Weakest Link.
“Of all the celebrity weakest links you've had the chance to meet, whose performance stands out?”
Final Thoughts and Applause
45:58 to 46:26
Wrapping up the episode with applause for Ramesh and closing remarks.
“We did a redemption special where everybody that did ask about that came back on.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Turn up the heat this Valentine's Day with a meal that brings a little steam to the table. Impress your loved one with some succulently sweet and slightly nutty tender stem broccoli, giving you that fine dining feeling without the faff. Simply boil, steam or grill your tender stem in just a few minutes and let this versatile veg take center stage on your Valentine's plate. This is Valentine's cooking, but better with tender stem broccoli. Add a pack to your weekly Waitrose shop, subject to availability. Dish from Waitrose is a cold glass production. This podcast may contain some strong language and adult themes.
1:03are you doing nothing obviously yeah but i when i found out this was a valentine's day we'll go together and i'll give well no i was just interested in what your take angela harnett was no we do do card and neil might buy flowers but we never make a fuss of it neil was in my dream last night that's a bit weird yeah he had some chickens he was showing me his chickens in a garden in a garden and one had died and he watched it back on the camera and someone had killed it by throwing a water balloon at it. Oh, God. And then he went, I need a drink now. And he had an outdoor tap and it was wine. And that was my dream.
1:41Because sometimes my dream's unpacking my day. And I was like, what happened in my day for Neil to infiltrate it, drinking wine from a garden tap? Yeah. Who knows? No idea. We want to talk about our guest in a second, but first, I want to talk about this. These lips. This next to you. Yeah, let's talk about these lips. that are next to you. So this looks like, almost like a clutch bag. Thank you. Tell me... It does look like a clutch bag. What we've got here, for those listening to the podcast, Angela has just presented me a plate with some lips on. Yes. Quite surreal. Quite a surreal offering.
2:17Yeah. So it's these... What the hell is it? Milk chocolate lips from Lulu Guinness that she's done with Waitrose. So you would smash the lips to get into it. Yes, go do for it. And then see. Oh. Go for it. Bloody hell. Oh, there you go. There you go. It's bloody well made, Lulu. But so, chocolate, but red. Yeah, like a red, like sort of a, yeah. Shiny, shimmery. Shiny, metallic. Passes the box. Quite big, the box, isn't it? But I suppose it's protective because you don't want it to smash. Yeah, delicious. It's fair trade as well. We love fair trade. Oh, we love. Would you like any more? Well, I'm trying to be healthy this year.
2:54Okay. How's that going? Because after we had our... Don't blame me and drag me into the fact you had a kilo of cheese every day over New Year. Sometimes when I eat excessively, like a full cheese board, I'm like, I do a food podcast. It's research. Today we've got the wonderful Ramesh Ranganathan to see us on the podcast. Love Ramesh. And truly, I feel like we do say this a lot, but we have wanted Ramesh on for a really long time. We asked him to come on when we went on his Radio 2 show nearly a year ago. So it's taken a year. He's very busy. He is very busy, to be fair. He's never off the telly, Ramesh, is he?
3:32But I'm happy. I think he's really brilliant. I really, really do everything he does. He's very funny. I love his stand-up. I love his radio show. Yeah. I love him hosting shows. He's just actually funny. He's very funny. Very naturally funny. And I also do love when comedians do a bit and they've got an act. Yeah. But Ramesh is not that kind of guy, is he? No. And he's in the West End at the moment, but he's here on to promote his tour next year. Yeah, stand-up tour. But a lot to talk about. Yeah, we've got the weekly radio show, The Weakest Link, A League of Their Own, presenting the BAFTAs, stand-up tours.
4:03Like you say, he's in the West End, two podcasts. He's been accursed. He probably does not want to be here. He's got kids and family. Yeah. But apparently he's got a bad habit of saying, he can't say no to anything. You know, if you rang him up and said, oh, let's go. Well, he said no for a year. Well, no. Well, should we get Ramesh in now and get on with it? Definitely.
4:26Hi, Ramesh. This is so nice. How are you? What a podcast. This is a proper podcast. Proper, real proper. You're right? I'm really good, yeah, very good, thank you. How are you guys? You're looking great. Do you think so? Yeah, you do. Thanks, man. You look good. I don't feel like I look great. Your hair's good as well. This is for this play. My kids keep asking when I'm opening the quickie mark.
4:50It's, it's, I look like every Asian man my parents brought home for a party in the 80s. I love it, with the air cold. I don't know about the Tadis. Are you enjoying it, being on the West End? Yeah, it's good. I sort of... It's been amazing. I didn't appreciate that it's every night. When you say that to somebody, they go, yeah, of course it is. That's what you agreed to do, but you don't... You don't appreciate it. You don't appreciate every day. People don't appreciate every day until you're doing every day. Yeah. You know? And doing the same thing every day. I don't think people get it. People need to say.
5:23I do think any job, any situation, kids, family, marriage, whatever, people just say, it's every day. Every day. It is every day, man. We just had Jessie Bookley on the radio, and she was saying when she got married, she really didn't want to say till death do us part, because she was like, so long. I talked about this in my last tour show, about the concept of marriage. I want to be crystal clear on this. I'm massively in love with my wife, and I'm really glad to be married to her. but listen love is real and love is great and it's wonderful but I did sort of question the concept of marriage as a thing because like when you first get married to somebody like you're these people and then even in a few years you can be totally different people of course so you just have to I don't know if you look at the romantic side is that the fact is love is blind you put up with it don't you you don't mind that there's those that's the whole point yeah that's the whole thing is you go on the journey together yeah And it's a beautiful journey through all of the different changes and challenges.
6:27And we have Lisa around the back. She's coming in to tell us about your side. And in many ways, it makes it more magical. And there's a depth and a layering. I'm going to say this down the camera. And love is wonderful. So we have a wonderful guest. We do. The podcast has already started. Let's introduce him, just in case you've been paying attention to this very moment. We have a presenter, a writer, an actor, comedian. who says he's yet to do anything in the world of stand-up that he's truly proud of. Here to promote his new tour.
7:00Thank you. This is unbelievable. Oh, cheers, Romesh. Cheers, welcome. I'm a big fan of it. We have a spicy alcohol-free margarita, so made with alcohol-free tequila and then like a sugar syrup with cardamom, chilli and lime. Really good. I'm a big fan. And this is really good. Oh, yeah, you like that? The little lime twist. The little bit of shush. Yes, please. That's all we're having today. Just that, just nibbling that piece of lime. Yeah, I want to talk about this lime remesh because this struck me that you said that you have not done anything in the World of Standard that you're truly proud of.
7:39You said that on Desert Island Discs with Lauren Laverne. It's a long record, isn't it? You're trying to find things to say. No, I'm joking. Lauren's like, give me a headline. Yeah, can we have something that we can clip up? No, I do feel like that. I mean, I sort of think that about everything that I do. And stand-up is the thing that I'm most passionate about. Like, I love it. It's the reason I do anything is because it started from stand-up. That's what I wanted to be when I moved into comedy. And so I'm really passionate about doing a great show. And whenever I do a tour show, whatever anybody thinks about it, I have worked my ass off to make this show, you know, polishing it and getting it to the point.
8:18And then what happens is the show comes out and the response is great. I've had great response to shows, but I just feel like I'm going to have the feeling of going, that is the show. That is the show that when I retire or I'm cancelled, that'll be the show that people go, that's Romesh's show. People will say, did you watch that one? That's the one that he did. And so if I was to stop now, I haven't done the show. In my opinion, I haven't done the show yet. Do you know what I mean? So how do you feel when you come off stage? Because again, it's like you were saying earlier, You're doing it every night.
8:49Yeah. You know, maybe not seven days a week. But, you know, there's breaks. But how do you feel then when you come home? Like, it's great. Like, you know, you're trying to... I want the audience to be exhausted from laughing. That's the aim. Because I sort of think about as a punter, when I used to watch Stand Ups I Love, you know, Richard Pryor's not my favourite of all time. And I used to watch his shows, and I'd want him to stop talking because... Yeah, because you're aching so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that's... I always thought I want that to be what people's experience is when they come to my shows.
9:18But then when you start off doing stand-up, you're so desperate to make people laugh, you will say anything. You know, you're just desperate to make people laugh. You're just like, you know, you'd be waggling your glasses. And all that, because you're just so desperate to make them laugh. I mean, that's the job. Yeah, but then as you get more experience, you sort of go, well, making people laugh, it's not easy, but it becomes easier. And so then you go, well, now I'd like it to be something where I'm standing by the substance of what I'm talking about. Not at the expense of, like, I don't want to give, I'm not smart enough to give anybody a lecture, you know, about anything.
9:55But when you watch stand-ups that are really funny, there is some, they're letting you into their world and they're showing you the way they think about things. And it's like, there's something you take away from it. Do you know what I mean? But I think that's a good place to be. Yeah. Because I don't think you'd want to, I don't think we'd love you, Ramesh, if you were the type of comedian that was like, I think I'm brilliant. Yeah. I think it's a good place to be if you're a musician or, you know. But it gives you the adrenaline to keep going. Yeah, you want to like keep going. And you're like David Bowie.
10:23Yeah. Ooh, nice. That's good. You are. He's like, just change better. That is going to, because what's happened is, I then panicked about how to respond to that. Because actually the truth is, is that I'm not.
10:40He's incredible. Yeah. And I'm just churning out some shit. And then if you go, you're like David Bowie and go, I know that the comments go, what a wanker. Did you see the way he accepted that comment about one of our greatest artists? Can you believe that? The guy that hosts Weakest Link is like David Bowie. In your own field. Does he really believe that? In your own space, you know. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, a need to evolve. Yeah, a need to evolve. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, no, okay, thanks. Sorry, yeah. Nice, thanks. Yeah. That's very sweet of you. You're not resting on Laurel.
11:15No, I accept it. I accept it. No, I accept it. You're exactly like him. Exactly the same. Very much so. If people are missing David Bowie, don't worry. You've got him. Try the biggest lift. He's still here. What was it that made you, you know, when you were younger, think, I could do this? Because, you know, you have a great relationship with your mum who's, you know, often on screen here. Would you do shows at home? Would you stand up and perform? the love language in my house growing up. I was just roasting each other. My mum would like sometimes wheel me out and go, do the impression of me, darling.
11:51Do it when I'm trying to find the coffee. Do it, do it. No, this is so good. You should watch this. Watch this. Do it, darling, do it, do it. So it'd be like that. So they'd like kind of get me out to do that. I remember this is really dark story. When, when - I'm ready. When my dad passed away, so my brother, this starts really dark, okay? So my brother found my dad. He had a heart attack in the house and passed away. And my dad found him. And then when I came in, like my dad, my brother called me. I was at a gig and he goes, can you, like, dad's collapsed. So I came into the house and then immediately started crying.
12:25And then we found out, you know, he passed away. The next day, we're sat around and we'd gone to see my mum and we're all trying to figure out what to do. And my brother was like, we were really quiet at the table. My brother said to me, Rom, I go, yeah. and he goes what was that noise you made yesterday man and I go what he goes when you when you saw dad he goes you're not even embarrassed he goes he goes like I know you're upset but he's just like ah ah ah ah ah ah ah we genuinely we genuinely started cracking because it was it was it was it was bad like it's like it was like that It was like that meme, you know, that...
13:14But I didn't know that I'd make that noise. You know, like it's like in an emergency situation something happens. But you don't know how brave you are until you're in a situation where you say something. I didn't know that I made that noise. I just love the fact your brother brought it up. Next day. Should we start with... We always like to go through our guests' food likes and dislikes. Should we start with yours, Ramesh? Yeah. We love that they're written by you. First up, full disclosure, you are famously vegan. Yeah. And when it came to Food Loves, you start with, I love my mum's aubergine curry, which Angela has tasted.
13:54Very good curry. Why did you taste it? We were on a Ramesh's. She won't leave, man. Why did you do that? I'm there every week around the door. Yeah, what was it? It was the show you do with Rob when you go and do another industry. You're opening a restaurant. So you had me and Tom rounds and they both made curries and it was Tom and I decided which one we liked best. Tom Kerridge. Oh, yes. And we liked Romish's. It was brilliant. Yeah, well, Rob made his in a... He made it in a machine. It was all the big series. And it sort of went, oh, add this now. Yeah. And then dice this. And then it dices it for you and what load of shit.
14:28And we're going to eat in a second, aren't we? We are, yeah. Should I go through food likes and dislikes and you get the food ready? or I'll get the food ready. Yeah, no, okay. No, you go. No, I'll go. No, no, off you go. Okay. When it came to food, you love spicy, you have a tragic sweet tooth, you eat a ton of these crisps, the Torres Black Truffle Crisps. They are, they have changed the game. The Black Truffle, but they also do olive oil, right? Yeah. Do they do fried egg? Have I just made that up? I do fried egg. I love the taste. I hate the smell. Of the egg ones? Yeah. The egg smell is foul.
15:05Whenever I do a TV recording, I'm always on the rider for those. I think that's the best crisp. I do feel like an arsehole asking for a black truffle crisp. Do you remember when you felt like a tosser for talking about salted caramel? Yeah. That's those? Yeah, now it's... Try and get a caramel that's not salted. Exactly. Impossible. Now you feel like a wanker. Actually, I'd love it unsalted. Unsalted. As it comes. Impossible. Impossible. Impossible. I wanted to talk to you about your bakery. Yeah. Endeavour as well. because you've invested in a bakery, right? Is it a vegan bakery? It's not all vegan, but they do loads of vegan stuff.
15:40But I got to know that Sean Coughlin is Coughlin's Bakeries. And I got to know him because his wife is a makeup artist. And so I was doing like eight out of ten cats or something. And she said to me, oh, my husband runs a bakery. And he said, like, if you want to try anything. And so I started trying these donuts. And I was like, and they're vegan. and I was like, oh my God, this is incredible. And then eventually I got him to do my wife's birthday cake. He did like an Idris Elba birthday cake for Lisa. What, the face of Idris Elba? The face of Idris Elba, yeah. Wow. Really? Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah, it's really, it's really nice to do something for your wife that also undermines you as well.
16:20Yeah. Did she appreciate it? She loved it. It was horrible. It was disgusting to watch. Yeah. And then we kind of built up a relationship and then he was looking to get some investment or get somebody else involved and we'd become friends and I was going there all the time. So I just thought, well, I think you should invest in something that you actually really care about and love and I really love that stuff so I just thought I'd get involved. So now I'm like a co-owner of Coughlin's Bakery and every now and again I'll go and do a shift at one of the branches. Do you like it? I love it. I just work the tills and be just a general celebrity.
16:55They don't let you make the doughnuts? No. No, they do. No, I have been into the actual main bakery and kind of dipped the yum-yums. Oh, yes. Come on. Although, I'll tell you a weird thing that happened. So we sort of pre-announce, I'm going to be working at whatever, the Oxfade branch. And then people had turned up for selfies and stuff like that. And then this woman said, I'm just telling you what she said. She said, do you know that you're the thinking woman's crumpet? And I said, no, I didn't know that. And furthermore, I don't think it's true. and then she said, I got your present and she gave me a pair of knickers.
17:31Whoa. At the bakery? Yeah, I know, that's exactly. That's not the weird bit. That's weird. A pair of knickers? Yeah. Were they in an envelope? No, she pulled them out of her pocket. Whoa. Wow. Wow. I'd just arrived in Oxfad, I reckon three minutes before. What time of day are we talking? This was like, Nick, I hate to tell you, man, it was one in the afternoon. One in the afternoon? When do you think would be a good time to do that? I don't think there is one. If I'm thinking on a scrumper, give me a Rubik's Cube. Why? But the rest of it was fine. The rest of the visit was fine. What did you do with them?
18:09What did I do with them? I don't know. I definitely took them home. No, you didn't know. Did you? I'm going to be honest with you. I wasn't expecting follow-up questions about what I did.
18:26I panicked. I felt like a politician on the BBC on Sunday morning. It's like, shit, what did you do with them? I think I took them home to like, because I wanted to tell Lisa, I wanted to show Lisa what had happened. Yeah, nice to re-gift. Valentine's Day. We're going to go through the rest of the lives because there was a diversion. You also nearly killed yourself eating Lao Gan Ma crispy chili oil. Yeah. Yes? What the hell happened? Do you guys like that, Chitlil? I don't know that. It's like crunchy. It's got like, I think, soy beans and onions fried in it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's wicked.
19:04Anyway, somebody said to me, I'd seen somewhere this stuff is amazing on pretty much everything. So I'd started getting into it, and it started to become a bit of a problem. So I was eating it all the time. And then it got to the point where I would happily eat it on its own. Oh, wow. So what would happen is I'd get back from like, It was one of the early nights of one of the previews of the play. And I got back and as a little treat for myself, I'd have a tablespoon of the chilli oil. Jesus! I can't believe you've done that. So it's like a little well done, Romesh. You did well in the play today.
19:40Have some chilli oil. So I opened the jar. Everyone's asleep. And I took the tablespoon. I'm eating over the, you know, here like this. and I just quickly shovel it in because I want to minimize being caught doing this. Yeah. It's beyond ick. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? He's eating the chili oil. So I shovel it into my mouth and then as I do that, it just, a little tiny bit of it goes the wrong way and then I just go, and I like spray every cupboard. Oh my God. Every cupboard is just completely pebble dashed with chili oil and then I start choking, I start really choking and I start panicking.
20:22And then honestly, I think I'm going to die. I thought I'm going to die now. And then for some reason I started doing circuits of the kitchen. I started trying to walk it off. So I started just doing circuits of the kitchen.
20:37And honestly, I thought I am going to die today. I thought I'm going to die today. This is. But the thing was I just thought, what is Lisa going to walk into? The next morning, my body on the floor, the jar with the spoon there, cupboards,
21:00like, what a horrible way for your husband to die. How did he go? Oh, he was having one of his late night chili oil tablespoon treats.
21:14So food has arrived, but just to finish your dislikes, Don't like tempeh. Mate. Tempeh. What is tempeh? Is it just gluten? No, it's like that sort of like... It's often like used as a... If you don't like tofu, it's awful. So no tempeh. No. I like that it's written here, the pronunciation. It says tempeh, not like tiny temper. That's one of his big bugbees. It's like that. On drinks, you said you stopped drinking because we're having alcohol-free. You said basically you don't drink because when you do drink, you can be, your words, a twat. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I just, like, my dad ran a pub. He's a massive drinker.
21:56And he was great. But, like, he was, like, what I would describe as a charming liability. He was really fun in a cameo. But being married to him, I can't imagine. My mum had a hell of a time. Do you know what I mean? But I have got that, I feel like I've got that gene in me. Do you know what I mean? Where, like, about everything. You know, I'm eating chili oil on my own. Yeah, yeah. You know, like, I've got that addictive person. I'm trying to find something to get addicted to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when it's with drinking, especially with comedy, you are around booze a lot. And you finish a show and everybody's drinking.
22:35You know, the audience is drinking. You do a TV record. People are drinking. You know, so it's around a lot. I think being sober gives me just the right level of inhibition. And I don't want to lose that. I've got so many memories of just being a complete dick. I don't know if you... We did an episode of Rob and Romish Versus. And we did Rob and Romish Versus Heavy Metal. And we drank with Queens of the Stone Age, right? And I got obliterated on camera, like completely obliterated. And I've just got vague sort of recollections of running around backstage while like Royal Blood were on and just go...
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23:11Rob and I like snobbed on the side of stage. and obviously like production fan great TV it's great TV yeah it's really funny TV but I went to I have a great day yeah I'm a f***ing legend then I went to bed I woke up the next morning and obviously I just got the fear yeah what happened what did you do so I immediately put on the production WhatsApp I just said I'm really sorry if for my behaviour if I was out of order last night or whatever you know I was sort of really all over the place It was half an hour before anybody responded. Oh, God. That was the longest half hour. That was the worst half hour of my life.
23:52I do think people need to think about what that effect that's having on people. You need to respond to people when they say that. You need to have an alarm. Get in quick and go, you were fine. Or there's a police investigation. You just want to know either way. You want to know. Please reply quicker. You start eating ramesh And then, Ange, please, what we have here. So we have a cauliflower and spinach curry. Yes. And we're serving it with loads of little poppadoms. And we've got a lovely array here of some fantastic mango chutney, some lime pickle. I love lime pickle. Fried onions. Some lovely, oh God.
24:32Writer? Writer, thank you. Yeah. So to have with it. And rice. This is so good. Oh, good. I'm glad. Oh, my God. I can't remember this. So Ramesh said that, well, Ramesh, you said that you'd be happily having, chef's choice with what we eat. Yeah. You'd leave it up to Angela, which is the way I would do it if I was coming on here as a guest. Oh. Well, because obviously I'd be like, come on, Angela knows what's up. Yeah. So what made you go for curry, Ange? Well, one, obviously, Romesh is vegan. No, I'm joking. I'm sorry. Ange, what made you go? For a curry. What made you go curry? Yeah. Why did I go curry?
25:11So, seasonality, cauliflower. Yeah. Yeah, lovely. Absolutely. And cauliflower is a great thing when you make a curry because it absorbs all the flavours of all those different spices and everything like that. Wow, this is delicious. How does it make this so tasty? It's the layers of flavour, isn't it? I was going to say layers. It's all the stages. So you start off, you put your little oil in the pan, put curry leaves and cumin seeds, toast those off for a couple of minutes, add your spinach, and then take that out of the pan. So in a way, you've seasoned the pan. And then it's onions, garlic, coriander stalks, and ginger in the pan.
25:43Cook that down till it's softened. But a good five, ten minutes, you know, not just quickly in the pan. This is, sorry. That's all right. It's so good. Thank you. I'm really pleased. You haven't smashed this. Oh, thank you. It is wicked. That was very good. And then you add your different spices, your turmeric and gran masala, and a bit of tomato puree. And then you add your cauliflower. And then you cook it really quickly, only for about 10, 12 minutes. And once that's cooked, then you add your spinach back into the pan, a little bit of yogurt and a touch of lime. Because the thing is, cauliflower and spinach curry, if somebody comes down to your house as a vegan host, there's a lot of pressure on.
26:21People don't want to come around, really. They don't want to come around. They just don't want to come around. No, and then if you go cauliflower and spinach on paper, you just go... It doesn't sound great. Well, it just sounds fine, right? You're not going to not enjoy it. But this is like, it's so good. But it is, you know, the point is, it's like anything. Take time a little bit. Don't rush it. And then the cauliflower you just cook in... Because it's not really a sauce, if you're listening to this, is it? It's not like a... No, not a wet porridge. It's not a wet porridge, no. So the cauliflower just sort of cooks 10 minutes, that's it.
26:49It cooks in the spices, but you add a little bit of water as well, about 300 mils of water. I'm surprised it's cooked. Because I've tried roasting a cauliflower. Yeah. Not as great. No, I always think that's quite dry. Quite dry, yeah. Tell us about the little salad that you've made here. So we've got this kachumba salad, which is diced tomato, cucumber, red onion, coriander, and mint. A little bit of salt in there as well. And then the writer, which is cucumber, yogurt, a bit of shallot, finely diced, and again, mint, and a bit of seasoning. And it's vegan, so what, yogurt? Yeah, vegan coconut yogurt.
27:20Coconut yogurt, yeah. Perfect, then you've got it all. Okay, so there's a wine pairing as well. The pairing that we've got is a Gruner Weltnerner, which is an Austrian wine. dry and crisp will be great with something spicy and rich like a curry if you want to get this wine or this recipe or all the ingredients waitrose.com forward slash dish recipes would you like some more rummish? this? yes please I would love some I didn't know is that allowed? yeah of course it's allowed now this is for our Valentine's Day special yeah we were talking before you came on that we don't really celebrate in our respective homes do you do you guys do anything on Valentine's Day is there not really I mean I've I think I think in the early days when you weren't sure if the other one was as cynical yeah yeah so then you go I should really do something but then eventually I think once we had we had a conversation going should we not save the money not do it yeah but I remember when I was a teenager yeah I took a girl to Pizza Hut on Valentine's Day.
28:30It felt incredible. Yeah. But like to do that now. Yeah. I mean, I guess now it would be Pizza Express, but... Yeah. Now you're going up in the world. Yeah. It's made a bit of money. Crispin pizza. Listen, not no. It's a Saturday night Pizza Express. No salad bar. Not no. Not no. Oh, do you remember the Pizza Hut or Salad Bar? The Salad Bar? Oh my God. When I first discovered the concept of a salad bar, Not I didn't discover it, you know, for myself. I couldn't believe it. And you're like, wow. And then you finish and they go, you can go up again if you want. What? It's true. I remember it opening, a pizza opening in Rochdale, where I lived.
29:12And I was like, wow, America. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It felt so lovely. Because the pizzas were like, before that you'd have those little like, I will never forget, honestly, man, it's like a cool memory. The cheese pull on the first pizza advert. It's like, there's strings. Oh, jeez. Yeah, you are like that. Oh, my God. Wow. I loved it. Bring that back. You're on a date night there. What a time. It's glue, it turns out. Yeah. And they've stapled the pizza down. Yeah. Well, we're going to do something now because we want to share some love with you. Share some love. Oh, thanks, man. Not the normal type of love you may have with someone on Valentine's Day.
29:52But we did our Ramesh research and we found out you're quite hard on yourself. Yeah. You were asked by the Guardian to describe yourself and the words that you used were lazy, disorganized and lucky. I still stand by that. Okay, but quite hard. We thought it was quite hard on Ramesh. So what we thought we'd do is we'd put some of your big achievements into some oven gloves, as is tradition. So you know the game. And we could just dip in and take a pick. So this is our way of instilling some self-love into you. So these are some of your great achievements. These are some of my achievements. Yeah.
30:27You are acting in the West End with Sheridan Smith. Look, yeah, there you go. Thanks, man. Yeah. I don't know if it's good, but you're doing it. Let's have another one. Go on, you read one now. Read that one. Yeah, this is good. Yeah, we'll read them to you. There we go, yeah, okay. You've hosted the BAFTAs. And you've won BAFTAs. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, guys. Yeah, there we go. You've rapped at the Scarlet in London and have your own rap name. You're a rapper. Come on. Hold on a second. I just want to pull you up on that. All right. I'm just reading this. No, well, can I tell you about that? I'll tell you the story about the Scala.
31:04You're putting yourself down again. Well, no, I'm just, listen, it was a great night. Yeah. I was in a battle, rap battle at the Scala. I got to the final. It was me against this guy that was actually really good at it. And I said, my rap name, Ranga. I said, this is going to offend you, I think. Okay. Maybe not. Because of the lack of culinary knowledge. And I said, this is Ranga. I'm here rocking the Scala. You can't handle the heat of my chicken tikka masala. Right? I like it. That got me knocked out of the competition. Now, obviously, chicken tikka masala, nobody's going, oh, that's a bit punchy, that tikka masala.
31:45No. Right? So I got humiliated so badly in that competition. Genuinely, my friends asked to leave separately. All right, scrap that one. All right, that's the fun. But thank you. Scrap that one. No, but I did it, I did it. But you did it. Yeah, I did it. Guys, you've got a shift. I mean, you've got a whole crowd here. When you're pulling this out, they're staying silent. They're like, they weren't bothered about the BAFTAs. They were like, no, sorry, he's not good enough. You've won, not won. Well, let's just say it. You've won the London Marathon. You've won it. You've done it twice. You've done it twice.
32:26There you go. You've run it twice. Are you going to do it this year? No. By the way, this sounds like I'm taking all of your compliments and trashing them. No way. But I'm just going to tell you something that happened. This is a genuinely true story. So you know they've got this, at the beginning of the London Marathon, they've got like a profile competitor's tent, right? And one of the guys that organises the London Marathon came up to me on the second one and he said, I just wanted to say thank you for doing the London Marathon last year. You really helped spread the message of how accessible it is.
33:01He did not. He did. I promise you. I can't quite believe that. He's like, you're really like, you know, it's not just for elites. You're like, yeah, cool. I'm just about to start, by the way. Thanks for the pep talk, wanker.
33:20It was a cool thing. It was a fun thing. One more? One more. One more. What are we going for? There's so many. There's so many. So you taught maths and learnt stand-up at the same time. At the same time. Yes, I did. Thank you. I like this one. You'd put Crawley on the map. There you go. There you go. Never heard of it. Crawley on the map. Yeah. There you go. I mean, you know, Gareth Southgate's from Crawley, so not even the most famous guy from there. And you've got Chico. Oh, Chico. Chico's from Crawley. He was famous. Mate, proper. I didn't realise that Chico time was the number one, wasn't it?
33:57Wow. Was he? Chico time was number one. Yeah, big time. Massive. Yeah, massive. Well, there we go. That's our love gift for you this Valentine's Day. Genuinely, that was actually very sweet. Yeah, good. Ramesh, you're off on tour. Ramesh Ranganathan will change your life, was the name of this tour. Yeah. It's not this year. Next year. It's next year. Yeah. 2027. How do you feel this far ahead knowing that something is next year? It's going to be full on. It's a lot of dates, a lot of travel. I love going on tour. So it's not so bad. I don't find it that bad. Obviously, you're obviously a bit nervous about when you start the tour.
34:34But I love going on tour. It's like, the reason I started doing TV is to go on tour because I wanted people to come and see me. And I think after, you know, after all the TV goes away and whatever, stand-up will be the last thing I'll continue to do. Do you know what I mean? I think I'll always do that. But you said it earlier, that's the thing. That's the thing. That's what you want to be known as above everything. Yeah, that's what I love. But the one thing that I do think is weird about, because it's so far in advance, this is the first show where I've really had, not a concept, but I know what I'm trying to do with this show.
35:07But I haven't written any, even a minute of it. I know the concepts and what I'm sort of going to try and, what I'm aiming for. But then when you haven't written something and it's on sale, you feel like a bit of a con artist. That's risky. Well, you feel like a con artist, really. And then they'll go to me, oh, it's sold out, we're putting on another date. And I go, what? Yeah. What's sold out? It doesn't exist. Do you know what I mean? Are you going to be, like, some comedians will go and do a really small theatre to try it out, like do three or four nights and sort of try out the material. Will you do that or you'll just hit it hard?
35:38No, how I tend to do it is you start with, like, a ten-minute routine. and then I'll phone a mate who, you know, a friend of mine, I often go to Brighton because I live near there. So I go, I've got 10 minutes of new stuff, can I just come and try it tonight? And then you're unannounced. Yeah. And then he'll go, we've got a special guest who's just trying out some stuff. And then I'll go on with a notebook and just go, look, I've got some ideas, can I talk it through with you? And then maybe like sometimes all of it works, sometimes a minute of it works, and then you start to like, you keep that stuff and refine it and then gradually it gets bigger and bigger and then you've got more stuff.
36:12and then you start to go, okay, I think I've got a show now. That's when you start going, okay, I'm doing a work in progress and then people come and come watch you. There's a theatre right down the road from my house, which I do do new material there. The only problem is, is like, I remember once I did like a new material hour where it's just like me and a nobody. It's like Ramesh, try some shit out is what we called it, right? And I just, I walked off and thought, well, that didn't go very well, but who cares? Not who cares, you know. I'll be back to the drawing board. and then I was at the shops and then somebody comes up to me and goes, do you know what would make that superhero bit work?
36:46And I thought, oh God. I don't want to get people giving me feedback on this when I'm out and about living my life. Do you know what I mean? Doing the school run. There's somebody going, I thought I'm a punchline. So I started moving them a bit further. Don't move out of your county to do good comedy. Yeah, too much, too much. And that was his mum. She was like, change that bit. Well, I always like it when I do live comedians and they I mean a lot of the time it's in London but if you watch it on TV you see if they're in Glasgow or they've gone somewhere they'll refer to where they are because everyone does have different humours as well and the audience you must react to in different areas of the country I imagine yeah well I mean the worst one was I went to I went to America to do some shows over there they're just offended by different things and also they don't they don't have as many like brown people right in public kind of so they don't sort of they can't process your background.
37:41So anyway, on one of my tours, I had a bit that the gist of it was I would join ISIS if they had good Wi-Fi. That is the premise of the bit, right? So when I was doing it, when I was doing it, when you do it in the UK, people just go, he's obviously joking. You know, like they get it, it's a joke. I was doing Hollywood improv and I was doing a set and it was going really, really well. and then I started doing this bit and honestly, the arse dropped out of the room immediately. I think they thought I was like announcing like my elite, yeah. You could just feel them like, oh my God, oh my God. He's one of them, he's one of them.
38:22Shit. It was horrible. So like, you know, like you kind of, you kind of get a sensibility for different places. But I do, I tend to think like, I mean, up north is like wicked to do stand-up. I feel like Glasgow audiences, for example, when they like you, they love you. Like the energy is insane. So you do feel differences, regional differences and stuff. That is true about the Scots. I did a dinner up in Aberdeen and I went round to talk to all the tables and they literally kept standing up and hugging me to the point they were like too much. And I was like, right, this is now weird. I called my husband who's Scottish.
39:04I said, what is wrong with you lot? Why do you all... I said, everyone has hugged me. It's just mad. What's going on? And I said, they won't let go. And then they talk at you. But it's really like enthusiasm. I love it. We should go, Ange. Have a date night. Go see Ramesh. I'd love you to come. I'd love to come. If you want to go to Ramesh's tour, you can get tickets now. I imagine it will sell out soon. Even though it's not until a year away. Once this goes out, I mean, this is... Once this goes out. They said, do dish. It's the final push. Hold on. And then you can relax. Worldwide. This is it.
39:35one cauliflower curry. Arena sold. Ramesh, it's time for your fast food quiz. Yeah, yeah, great. What is your favourite sandwich filling? Peanut butter and banana. Oh, nice. What's your favourite donut filling? Oh, well, there's a yum yum named after me, Ranga Yum Yum. Ranga Yum Yum. It's got chocolate and Biscoff. Oh, nice. And what's your favourite form of potato? I like mash. Why'd you say it like that? Why'd you say it like that? Don't be embarrassed. I like mash. MASH. I like mash. That's okay to me. I said it like, I like S &M, didn't I? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, okay. Yeah. I'll say I like it.
40:12Just because people are quite passionate about potato. Well, everyone sort of goes roast. So it's good you've done mash. Yeah. Let's give it something different. What about your favourite herb? Oh, rosemary? Yeah, lovely. Favourite crisp? Torres, black truffle. Dish you miss the most when you're away from home? Dish I miss the most is probably my mum's aubergine curry. Oh. Sorry, Lisa. happy valentine's day step your f***ing game up
40:49what's your favourite kitchen utensil? I'm a big fan of a spatula I really like it it's versatile it's handy do you like a bendy? yeah I like the bendy is that like you're in teach You should slap in the room. I just like it. Sometimes I'll just walk around with it. Great word as well. It's also great for scraping really dried chilli oil off a kitchen cupboard. It's stuck there for 24 hours. What's your favourite chocolate bar? There's a green and black dark one with little bits of orange in it. Oh, right. What's your favourite nut? I'd probably go pistachio. I think that's correct. we like a pistachio I think it is isn't it favourite topping on toast favourite I mean I'm a Marmite I'm a big Marmite guy Marmite and peanut butter's good oh I've never tried that oh yeah good oh I like the peanut we'll give you the recipe I'll give you the yeah I like that never had that one I like Bob Bruisy and it's peanut butter and Marmite and you just blend you blend on the toast or separate I do a little separate you do a little bowl I get a little ramekin oh right and I just mix it.
42:03And peanut butter in first or the marmite? What I like to do is I get the peanut butter and then I'll put a little well in the centre and put the marmite in and then work outwards. I can see how that works with your spatula, no doubt. Yeah, work outwards. You have to get a massive rumour. Okay, Ramesh, we come to the end of the show. Yeah. This is your end of the show question to win the Waitrose goodie bag. Usually, Angela Hartnett will wheel it in on that trolley. As you can see, there's no bag there. As a special guest to bring in the Waitress goodie bag, please welcome the one, the only, Mr Tom Davis is here.
42:43Yes, welcome. There he is. Hi, Tom. How are you? How are you? Good to see you. How are you? I'm good, how are you? How are you? Good to see you. Thank you for bringing that up. So, you can't even get a spot as a proper guest on you? No, no, no. I haven't got, I'm literally having to come in, I'm doing the bags now. It's just doing the bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good to see you. In this scenario, we keep saying we'll have to go for food. And now look. Now it's still there. It's done for you. So you're going out yourselves, yeah. Well, thanks for bringing that in, Tom. Ramesh, here is your end of your question to win that goodie bag.
43:16If you don't answer, Tom gets it. Oh, wow. What in the bag? Yeah. It's not full of vegan stuff, is it? Throw a lamb chop in it. Maybe the odd thing, yeah. Yeah, we'll stick some in there. Hi, Ramesh. Thanks for coming on Dish. You made it look effortless. You did. To win the Waitrose goodie bag, just answer the following question. Of all the celebrity weakest links you've had the chance to meet, whose performance stands out? Who is the weakest link of the weakest links? Thanks, Team Dish. So what they're saying is, slag someone off to win some shopping. Just quickly, weirdly, you've never been asked to do that show even though I'm one of your best friends.
43:59Unbelievable. Reid, I call that Reid. No, no, no. Can I tell you something? I would say, I said to me, I think I said he'd never come up to do it. It's in Glasgow. Yeah, but by the way, there'd be an easy answer right now because I'm awful at that sort of general knowledge. Yeah, but this is like, I don't, just, you know. It's about rummish. Yeah, I love a quiz. Do you love a quiz? I love quiz. Have you been on? I've not been on. Do you want to get on? You wouldn't do it, would you? Just be honest. Just be honest with me now. Would you do Weakest Link? Bit far in there. That's exactly it. It's a bit far.
44:31It's a bit far. Actually, would you do it? No. No, because I like playing quizzes at home and games at home, but under the spotlight like that, I would freeze. I would never be able to do it. Terrible. I can barely remember recipes on this half the time. I can never do that. I think the worst answer that... Well, two people spring to mind. Tony Blackburn was the first person I ever asked a question to on make a sing and the question was to Tony Blackburn what does the B in R &B stand for? and he said soul
45:15Tony Tony I think the one that was the most humiliating Tony this was more of it But I think it was just so bad that I think it was the... You know you're talking about the nerves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's got to be... It's Helen Flanagan. Yeah. And the question was, are the White Cliffs of Dover made of charcoal cheese? Oh, my. It's a cheese. Oh, my God.
45:46I didn't go watch that. Oh, wow. How's that not become a more... How's that not become a more... Oh, my God. It was like... That is awful! She's been back on again since. We did... I'd have her back on every week. We did a redemption special where everybody that did ask about that came back on. She did alright. Brilliant. A lot of reading. Round of applause for Ramesh, everybody. Thank you, everybody, guys. Beautiful, didn't it?
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The wait for a man at the top of our wish-list is finally over.
Romesh Ranganathan has been on the Dish radar for a long time. Last year, Nick and Angela visited him on his Radio 2 show and extended the invite to join us for dinner. This year, we managed to sync diaries and make it a Valentine’s date!
Romesh is a BAFTA-winning comedian, actor, writer and presenter. He is currently starring alongside Sheridan Smith in the West End Play, Woman In Mind, and took a seat with us to chat about his upcoming stand-up tour, Romesh Ranganathan Will Change Your Life. It’s a show which he is promoting well in advance, with dates starting in January next year. Sounds organised? It has to be, with Romesh also hosting two podcasts, including Wolf & Owl with Tom Davis alongside TV shows such as The Weakest Link and A League Of Their Own. Officially booked and busy.
Over non-alcoholic fiery lime margaritas, we quickly got to understand the intricacies of Romesh’s food likes and dislikes, including his late night chilli oil temptations and how his love of doughnuts made for a business venture. And, seeing as we are celebrating Valentine’s Day, we pulled out The Oven Glove of Romesh Love, filled with Ranganathan appreciation to combat his talent for self-deprecation.
The decision for today was left in Angela’s hands, as Romesh opted for ‘chef’s choice’. Chef wisely decided on a delicious cauliflower and spinach curry with all the sides. The Waitrose wine experts paired this meal with a No.1 Gruner Veltliner, described as an exceptionally food friendly dry, crisp white wine.
Stick around for the End of Show Question, too, because we found a great courier for the goody bag delivery. He’s on next week!
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