Stephen Graham and Erin Doherty enjoy a feast of dal gosht

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Podcast Episode Summary: Dish with Nick Grimshaw and Angela Hartnett

Episode Title

Stephen Graham and Erin Doherty Enjoy a Feast of Dal Gosht

Episode Overview In this episode of "Dish," hosts Nick Grimshaw and Angela Hartnett welcome Golden Globe winners Stephen Graham and Erin Doherty. The conversation kicks off with a focus on their recent successes and their roles in the Disney+ series "A Thousand Blows." Alongside engaging discussions, Angela prepares a delicious dal gosht while the guests share personal anecdotes and insights about their culinary preferences.

Key Highlights

Introduction

  • Hosts: Nick Grimshaw and Angela Hartnett
  • Guests: Stephen Graham and Erin Doherty
  • Occasion: Post-Golden Globe celebration
  • Main Dish: Dal gosht, a North Indian curry made with lamb and lentils.

The Culinary Experience

  • Dal Gosht:
  • Recipe by Mallika Basu, featuring lamb shanks cooked with red lentils and a blend of spices.
  • Served with sides such as mango chutney, pickles, and crispy onions.
  • Beverage Pairing:
  • Gewurztraminer wine is introduced, but the group enjoys spicy rum sours made with non-alcoholic rum.
  • Dessert:
  • Angela spontaneously decides to prepare a millefeuille, showcasing her culinary skills under pressure.

Guest Introductions

  • Stephen Graham: Known for his roles in various acclaimed shows and films, he expresses excitement over his recent Golden Globe win.
  • Erin Doherty: Gained fame from her role in "The Crown" and discusses her evolving career in acting.

Golden Globe Discussion

  • The guests share their experiences from the Golden Globe Awards, emphasizing the surreal nature of mingling with Hollywood stars.
  • They reflect on the importance of their show "Adolescence" and the impact of the awards on their careers.

Personal Insights

  • Food Preferences:
  • Stephen loves milfoil, curry goat, and is open to trying new foods, while Erin is known for her dislike of cheese due to intolerance.
  • The discussion includes humorous takes on childhood food memories, favorite dishes, and cooking experiences.

Cooking and Acting

  • Erin shares her newfound passion for cooking, inspired by her girlfriend, while Stephen admits he mostly relies on his partner's cooking.
  • The podcast juxtaposes their food experiences with their acting careers, highlighting how both fields require creativity and passion.

Fun and Games

  • The episode includes a "Fast Food Quiz" where both guests share their favorite foods and cooking experiences, revealing their personalities and preferences.

Closing Remarks

  • Nick and Angela express their delight in having the guests and the lively conversation, setting the stage for more engaging episodes in the "Dish Eternal Infinity" season.
  • The next episode is teased featuring comedian Ramesh Ranganathan.

Key Takeaways

  • Food as a Connector: The episode emphasizes how food brings people together, serving as a backdrop for personal stories and shared experiences.
  • Culinary Mastery: Angela shares her culinary expertise, providing listeners with a glimpse into the art of cooking.
  • Celebrity Culture: The guests discuss the emotional and surreal aspects of fame, reflecting on their journeys in the entertainment industry.
  • Engaging Format: The blend of cooking, conversation, and humor creates an enjoyable listening experience for food enthusiasts and fans of the guests alike.

Links and Resources

  • Full episodes available on [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/dish) and [Spotify](https://www.spotify.com/dish).
  • Recipes can be found at [waitrose.com/dishrecipes](https://www.waitrose.com/dishrecipes).

Contact Information

If you would like to reach out, contact

[dish@waitrose.co.uk](mailto:dish@waitrose.co.uk)

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Chapters

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Final Season Announcement

1:10 to 2:10

Discussion about the last season of Dish and its new format.

“So the news is there's not going to be a season 10 because there's not going to be any breaks.”

Introducing the Guests: Golden Globe Winners

2:10 to 5:20

Hosts introduce guests Stephen Graham and Erin Doherty, discussing their recent awards.

“And adolescence is really one of those shows that became a real talking point for the entire country and the world really, really was.”

Reactions to Winning Golden Globes

5:20 to 7:10

Guests share their experiences and feelings about winning Golden Globes.

“Well, yeah, we should start by saying massive congratulations.”

The Golden Globe Night Experience

7:10 to 9:50

Guests recount the events of the Golden Globe night and the after-party.

“I'm still a kid who watches telly and sees these people and doesn't think that these people know me.”

On Stage Nerves and Expectations

9:50 to 12:20

Discussion about the nerves and expectations when winning awards.

“because we've had a real busy one of great people.”

Food Connections and Preferences

12:20 to 14:00

Guests discuss their favorite foods and connect over shared culinary experiences.

“Well, it's at the back, so I've just got to put it together.”

Love for Thai Red Curry

14:00 to 14:49

Exploration of personal favorite dishes and experiences with Thai cuisine.

“Because it's the one thing, I think because I treasure it so deeply, I don't want to mess it up myself.”

Culinary Adventures in Thailand

14:50 to 15:47

Sharing a memorable travel story about experiencing fresh food preparation in Thailand.

“And we went, oh, we had a couple of quid and we said, can we have a chicken curry, please?”

Farm Life and Fresh Ingredients

15:48 to 16:44

Discussing the realities of sourcing fresh meat while au pairing in Italy.

“Just not on ways to do something going on, honestly, with someone I'm going, oh, I've steak and chips.”

Adventurous Eating

16:45 to 18:11

Conversations about being open to trying new foods, including unusual dishes.

“I was like, I wasn't, I didn't have high hopes because she was like, oh no, Sunday's just going to be like a pizza party.”
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Cooking Skills and Preferences

18:12 to 19:45

Sharing personal stories about cooking, preferences, and embracing new culinary skills.

“I've seen the amount of cheese in his fridge.”

Scouse: A Traditional Dish

19:46 to 21:18

Exploring the traditional dish Scouse and personal family cooking anecdotes.

“I'm the journey, I've broken down on my journey.”

Childhood Food Preferences

21:19 to 22:54

Reflecting on childhood food preferences and evolving tastes over time.

“And then vegetable and beef stock, and just let it do its own thing.”

The Perfect Roast Potatoes

22:55 to 23:45

Discussing the secrets behind the perfect roast potatoes and family cooking traditions.

“When I'm a 65-year-old woman, then you'll be all right.”

Preparing Dal Gosht

23:46 to 25:16

Detailed preparation of dal gosht, highlighting cooking techniques and ingredients.

“And then we've got all these like little sides.”

Curry as an Entertaining Dish

25:17 to 26:35

Discussing the appeal of curry as a dish for entertaining guests easily.

“So if you've got like anyone coming over that's wanting to go and glow, you know, you want to talk about the ceremony, keep it going.”

Inspiration for Becoming a Chef

26:36 to 27:46

Exploring personal stories about the journey to becoming a chef and influences in cooking.

“and came over after the First World War and set up fish and chip shops and cafes in Wales.”

Influential Drama Teachers

27:47 to 28:03

Reflecting on the impact of drama teachers in shaping acting aspirations.

“Thacker was a wonderful teacher, and he just made it fun and exciting, and he completely changed our school.”

Childhood Inspirations for Acting

28:03 to 29:15

Hear how early experiences and teachers influenced their desire to act.

“it was just a really wonderful opportunity for us to do something.”

The Role of Music and Radio

29:15 to 30:51

Discover the impact of music and radio on their creative journeys.

“I can be a part of something that can really communicate something to people.”

Behind the Scenes of A Thousand Blows

33:28 to 37:15

Learn about the filming process and character preparation for the show.

“This man who we saw throughout the first series.”

Casting and Connection

37:15 to 40:04

Explore how the actors were brought together for their roles in the series.

“and so that kind of created the backbone.”

Reflections on Their Working Relationship

40:04 to 41:26

Hear about their experiences working together and future aspirations.

“Like, thank God I did that bloody video.”

Cooking and Dessert Preparations

41:26 to 42:00

Join them as they discuss dessert preparations in a light-hearted way.

“I'm worried about it's going to be dessert time, Ang.”

Creating a Dessert Masterpiece

42:00 to 43:50

Learn how to prepare a delightful dessert using puff pastry and cream.

“And talk us through what you're doing, Kit.”

Fast Food Quiz with Erin Doherty

43:50 to 47:47

Discover Erin's favorite foods and fun insights about her culinary preferences.

“Erin Doherty, it's time for your fast food quiz.”

Fast Food Quiz with Stephen Graham

47:47 to 50:55

Explore Stephen's nostalgic food choices and his childhood favorites.

“And finally, favourite dish from your childhood?”

Wrap-Up and Guest Reflections

50:55 to 51:51

Reflect on the fun dynamics of the guests and their impactful presence.

“You know, he is going to go down as, if not now, one of the greatest actors of his generation.”
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0:43Hello. Hello. Hello. Come on. Get on with it. Okay. Hello and welcome to Dish from Wake Troars. I'm Nick Grimshaw. And I'm Angela Hartnett. That's right, baby. Well, welcome everybody to this. A brand new episode of Dish. A brand new season of Dish. Season nine. Season nine. Series nine. It's season nine. Series nine. Season nine, yeah. But do you know what? This is actually our last season. I know. It's all over. So the news is there's not going to be a season 10 because there's not going to be any breaks. Yes. Dish is now Dish Eternal Infinity. It ain't stopping. It's every hour on the hour.

1:24Guests, pasta. No, we're basically just going to do it every week. It's still going to be every Wednesday though, isn't it? Yeah, every Wednesday. Just checking. But sometimes, as you would have experienced over the past few weeks, we've been off. Yeah. But now it ain't going to stop. We're going to be in your lives every Wednesday, whether you like it or not. The guests are hungry. The listeners are soft. And you've lost the plot. How do you feel about doing it every week? Well, we don't do it every week. Excuse me, it's live. I have to live my left... I was going to say left bollock, but I don't know how to box.

1:59Oh, it's a long day. Kitchen terminology is getting the best for us. Kitchen's closed. Well, we've got a really exciting episode for you today. Two excellent actors are joining us on the show who've actually just won Golden Globes for their roles in adolescence. And adolescence is really one of those shows that became a real talking point for the entire country and the world really, really was. And, you know, such a talked about, celebrated show. So we have Stephen Graham and we have Erin Doherty with us on the show. they just won a Golden Globe each. Golden Globes, I know. For their roles in adolescence.

2:35So yeah, we'll be catching up with them very soon and talking to them all about the show. I'm super excited about this. Me too. And they've also got a new show as well. The second series of A Thousand Blows. But yeah, have you met either of these before? No. No. But I've huge, I mean, I think she's brilliant because I watched her in The Crown and she's incredible. I mean, I think Stephen Graham's what, early 50s? He's 52. 52, there you go. But he's somewhere, you know, he's been around and he's been in so many shows, you know, from The Accused, from Line of Duty. He was in Coronation Street. He's one of these actors.

3:08And then suddenly he got this, you know, he was in Pirates of the Caribbean. He was in The Irishman. You know, he's in huge, massive things. And when he gets his awards and accepts them, he's the most down to earth. He is, I imagine he's not going to be any different from when you meet him. He's just a normal guy. You know, he's not going to come with 20 people. is just going to come in and chat and eat. They came on the radio with me last year around the time they had their lessons. Both of them together. Oh, right, okay. And they had a really great morning with them. Yeah, I bet. And they were really good.

3:37They were really easy. Yeah. And you could tell they had a really great relationship with one another, you know. Yeah, that's good, yeah. So yeah, a good episode for you today. Welcome to the final season. And let's welcome Stephen Graham and Erin Docksey. Let's get them in. Hi. Thank you. Welcome, guys. Welcome. How are you? Very good. Nice to see you. Are you all right? Yeah, mate. And, yeah. How are you? How are you? I'm well. How are you? Looking good. I'm starving. Oh, you're starving. That's what you want to hear. I'm absolutely starving. Starving. Starving. Come ahead, then. Hurry up. Let's go.

4:11Slow, he's slow. You start. And, you start. No, and, where's the plates in that, Louisa? Oh, don't we have to do that a bit? It's a podcast. Yeah, but can't... You can have a little bit of that. But I need a plate, don't I? I'm starving. I've got an omelet all morning. Do you want some of these? Get a pop-a-dum-zack. Oh, my word. I've never seen this. What is going on? Our guests are here, Angela. Two guests with us right now who have come in and said, we're starving. Two wonderful actors who recently came home with Golden Globes in their luggage.

4:50Round of applause. Aaron Doherty and Stephen Graham, everybody. Welcome. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Oh, my God. Thank you for coming to see us. How are you? So excited. Starving. Starving. Absolutely. We've been doing lots and bits and bobs all day. You've been working today. We've had little bits and bobs since this morning. Okay. So this is our last thing, though. So we're very, very happy to be. This is it. We both go home after this. This is it. What a wonderful way to end the day. Oh, thanks for coming to see us, guys. Thank you for having us. Thank you for not eating. Yeah. And coming to dish starving.

5:26That's what we want, isn't it? We want a hungry guest. We want a hungry guest. We do, yeah. Well, yeah, we should start by saying massive congratulations. So we're, you know, straight fresh from the Golden Globes just a few days ago. It was amazing to see. So massive congratulations. Really, really was. Hopefully next year, because they start doing Golden Globes for podcasts. Well, hello. I love the news. They mentioned the four of us in Hollywood. They did, yeah. Come on. Snoop into the juice, Steve. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Yeah, you can get one from Snoop. Okay, so next year, us four in Hollywood.

6:00Yeah, we'll see you there. I think we're definitely in with a chance. Why not? But yeah, tell us all about what the night was like for you. Because is it a daytime thing, Golden Globes? Or is it like early evening? Early evening. Early evening. But when you're getting into your glam, it starts pretty early on. So it is an all-day situation. but we rounded it off with a dance party and that was the best part about it. We were on that floor. And did you all stay together partying together? Yeah. Yeah, that's what it looked great like that on social media. You all hung out together. I like that. I thought that was brilliant.

6:37Yeah, we had our missuses with us, didn't we? Yeah, they were both there. Yeah, it was really lovely. We had a wonderful time. Yeah, it was nice to do. It was great to see you. And so well deserved. I mean, come on, let's be honest. It was brilliant. And such, you know, I loved show and such an important show. So it was really good to see. And how was the party? Because I saw, like, you must be in a room with people that you've grown up with or love or respect. You saw Queen Latifah got a shout-out. Yeah. Of course. I loved you doing your speech being like, Queen Latifah? It's Queen Latifah. She's called a queen for no other reason than she is a queen.

7:11Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? That was mental. Yeah. Sean Penn. Sean Penn. Sean Penn came over. That's crazy. Yeah. I kind of blew my mind now. Do you know what I mean? I still can't quite fathom it. I'm still a kid who watches telly and sees these people and doesn't think that these people know me. So I'm always blown away when they speak about our way and stuff like that because it's still a strange concept, isn't it? Yeah, it's jarring. It's jarring. Julia Roberts is in that room. She's like, what? On what planet are we in a room with Julia Roberts and George Clooney? Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

7:46No, it doesn't make sense at all. It makes sense to us. It does make sense. As fans of you. Definitely makes sense to us. But yeah, massive congrats. And then how is it like when you, it must be amazing when you win, but also is it kind of terrifying, nerve-wracking, knowing that you've got to stand up in front of Julia Roberts? Let me just... Because you don't know at all, do you? No, you don't know. You don't. But there must be a thing in your head where you're like, maybe I'm going to do a speech in front of Julia Roberts. I've never actually spoken to you about this. How do you go into that day being like, I might have to get up there?

8:16I don't think like that. Look, the best expectation is no expectation. Do you know what I mean? And if I'm honest, I don't even prepare a speech because I don't think I'm... You just win. And then I think once you do prepare it, then it's over, you're never going to win. Do you know what I mean? That's probably the thing. It's like good speeches when they're natural and you're reacting to anything. As a viewer, you love seeing someone win and they don't know what to say. Because it means something to them. They're not like, thanks to... Who was it? Was it Joe Pacey who got the Oscar and he walked on stage for Goodfellas and he just went, thank you, and just walked off stage.

8:48That was it. I've seen that, yeah. But I just think that's brilliant. Because, you know, because some, let's be honest, it's like, thank God, my agent, my mother, my cat. We're just like, all right, come on. Do you know what? I've seen that. I've thought that's unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. It's amazing. There's something about that. He just goes, thank you. And it leaves. That's real class, I thought. I just really love that. It's next level, lad, innit? Yeah, that is. Next time. I was going to say. Thank you. When we're on the podcast, we go, thank you. And off. Straight off there. Yeah. And so we're going to start with a cocktail.

9:16Yeah. To cheers. Or if I chose a gun, sorry. Not getting bored, getting bored. So we're having an alcohol free song. In the eyes, in the eyes. In the eyes, in the eyes, in the eyes, in the eyes. In the eyes, cheers. In the eyes, in the eyes, in the eyes. Good luck. I used to say that. Yeah, it's true though. My mother would look at everyone on the table, in the eyes, in the eyes, in the eyes. That's delicious. Yeah, so like a spicy rum sour. Alcohol-free rum like we've done. It's great that though. It's delicious. I like that, yeah. It's good. Real good, really good. And we've had a mad day today, actually, Dish, because we've had a real busy one of great people.

9:52And it's been like a mad day of connections because we just had Tom Davies on. And Tom Davies was in A Thousand Blows. Yeah, Big Tom. Lovely Tom. Big Tom. He is so great. He's in my phone under Big Tom. Big Tom. He's Big Tom. And his name's Tom. Yeah. Makes sense. Big Tom is a mountain of a man, really. And then we had Ramesh on. as well. I love that. We didn't mention this to Ramesh, but he was your... He was my head of sixth form. Head of sixth form. How random is that? So random. That is... What is that? I got kicked off of English Lit by him. Did you know? Yeah. We didn't know that. He had to pull me and my dad into him and be like, look, Erin, you haven't read the books, you've got to go.

10:38You've got to go. So he kicked me off English Lit. Wow. Yeah. I know. Not in a mean way. I'm not throwing any shade. He had to do his job. You've been back yet? I didn't read the books. I had to get off that course. Yeah, he called you out. He did, quite right. Yeah. I love that. Wow. That is a mad old story. Got loads of connections. That is brilliant, that. The fact that he was here today. I know. Got it, I missed him. Well, we're going to go through some of your food likes and your food dislikes. Stephen, you love Milfoy. Is that what I'm saying? Milfoy. Milfoy. Milfoy or Milfoy? Milfoy or Milfoy.

11:15Milfoy. Milfoy. You're the actor. I'm listening to you, Stephen. You say it. Milfoy. Stephen Graham says it. That's how it is. Milfoy. Which is the hard thing. It was introduced to me from watching Bake Off, basically. Okay. That was the hard thing. So what is it, Angie? It's like a very delicate layer of pastry. It's puff pastry that's risen very high, and then you put three layers and cream in one layer, or whatever you want. Puff pastry, then raspberries, and icing sugar. and it's just, you know, it's basically cream, sugar and, you know, it's delicious, yeah. It is right. If you like pastry, it's great.

11:50And it's a posh version of an old-fashioned custard slice. Yes, it's true. That I used to get in Sayers. I used to get them in Sayers. I love a custard slice. For me school dinner. Yeah. When we go to Townie and you go to Sayers and I'd get a cheese pasty and a custard slice. Yeah, that's right. And then sometimes when you felt really decadent, you'd have a cream slice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the girl behind the counter and the woman would go, the fresh cream, them, lads. so that's where it comes from and then I then my palate matured and now like yeah very nice earlier on we were like why don't we do one for Stephen and when I say we it's Angela's doing the heavy lifting but we said we had a busy day three people, three menus it wasn't going to work and then just before you came Andrew was like I'm going to do it and we were like what and someone ran in and was like, she's doing it.

12:44And the room was like, what? You've made a meal for you. Well, it's at the back, so I've just got to put it together. So talk amongst yourself in a bit. When I put it together, it should be fine. That's a big deal. That's amazing. Have you tasted them? No, but I've heard you back on about them. Be prepared. Oh, my God. And I can imagine this one's going to be the bollocks. It's going to be the bollocks. It's going to be the bollocks. I promise you. Oh, God, the pressure now. It's going to be the bollocks. What was the turning point? What made you be like? Because we've had a lot of pastry today.

13:15We've had a pie. Yeah, it's a lot. And I saw this pastry in the fridge. I thought, oh, go on. And I tried it. I wanted to see that it was rising. So I just put a little bit in the oven while I was getting ready on everything else. And I said, oh, it's worked. It's great. So I said, oh, go on then, Sam. We'll make it. This is right. She said, you're going to do it? I said, yeah, go on. I just need this, this. So let's see. Fingers crossed. Anyway, we've got a lot to do before then. And we also never do dessert. We never do dessert. Never do dessert. It's gold.

13:45It's worth it. What was your best thing about your Golden Globe? The Milfwee.

13:52You also, Stephen, big fan of curry goat. You are also, well, you're a big fan of curries as well. I love curry. I love a curry. What's your favourite curry? What do you like? Ooh. I mean, I love a Thai red curry. Like, that's one of my favourites. I love red curry. Like, that's a big deal for me. And do you like to make a red curry? Is it something you like to make? I would love to learn. Yes. So that would be a big deal for me. Because it's the one thing, I think because I treasure it so deeply, I don't want to mess it up myself. So I actually don't go near it. Whereas other dishes that I'm not that into, I'm like, well, I could give that a go.

14:24Like I've tried a pie. And you've been out to Thailand and stuff. No. So that's what I'm like, I'm saving it. Because I want to go out there and really go there rather than like a quick trip. We were travelling. We were in Thailand, me and me mates years ago, and we were in the same. And we were in Thailand, and we hadn't eaten for about three days. We were starving. Worse than now. And we get to this beach thing in, on the beach, obviously, and it was called Mama's Kitchen. Yeah. And we went, oh, we had a couple of quid and we said, can we have a chicken curry, please? And she was like, yeah, no, no, no.

14:56And we'd come sit down and we sat down and then you just did, she picked this chicken up and just went, wallop, chopped its head off. And then she starts plucking it. Wow, yeah. What the f***? Came over them. It was the nicest fresh. Yeah, it was pretty fresh. That's it. Wow. I don't know how I feel about that. Where do you think it comes from? I know where it comes from, but I haven't seen them five minutes beforehand. No, and it was amazing to just watch her pick it up and throw her on the thing. Wow. But that's that farm life. When I was au pairing in Italy, they said, oh, go down to the farm and get the chicken.

15:32I thought I was just going to the farm shop to buy the chicken. And the signora goes, Allora, cuale? and she literally said point the chicken out and sort of run it and she did exactly that grabbed it and then went like that I said no no no you've got to plug it oh you made it plug it yeah oh yeah and then I took it up and I you know dissected it and all the rest of it but I couldn't you know but you choose it wow if you're going to eat it you need to know where it comes from exactly this is true I mean really okay can't we just pretend it's from Waitrose that's what I mean I mean yeah well it is fair enough though I do I respect I respect the craft same I respect it So are you someone that, are you quite adventurous then when you go away, when you're travelling, will you go and try anything?

16:13Definitely, yeah, I think you have to. Just not on ways to do something going on, honestly, with someone I'm going, oh, I've steak and chips. Yeah, no. Oh, f***. You put an egg on it as well. What? Yeah. And are you the same, Erin? Do you like to try it? Yeah, I definitely, I'm going to try it. Do you know what I mean? Even if I'm like, that is ridiculously disgusting, I'll give it a go. Give it a go. Yeah, like have you ever tried like snails and stuff? Yeah, I love a snail. I like a snail. I don't know who do I like a snail but I like a snail I don't know if I like a snail I just like it's so disguised in garlic and butter yeah so you can't go wrong like maybe I could eat that in garlic and butter it's true it's the chewiness it's the chewiness the texture I like it so there's some of the likes in terms of dislikes Stephen man after my own heart you're open to anything food wise you try anything and Erin you're you're cheeseless I am you're cheeseless I am infamously cheeseless infamously cheeseless yes always been like that only recently well I suppose the last like five years or so so I just kind of developed an intolerance sadly yeah and is it just cheese or ordering just cheese just cheese I know oh that is bizarre I know it's kind of gutting because pizza was like up there for me at one point I know it's a game changer right no pizza what did he call that pizza which was just the tomato thing oh marinara which to be fair I went yeah because my sister had her wedding in Italy this year last year and banging pizzas without cheese.

17:38Yeah. I was like, I wasn't, I didn't have high hopes because she was like, oh no, Sunday's just going to be like a pizza party. How are you going to do with that? But honestly, the Italians make great cheeseless pizzas. Good tomatoes there. Yeah, that's it. Tasty tomatoes. It's not like a dairy intolerance. It's just cheese. Yeah, it's really weird. I felt he was going to get that after New Year just by eating about 15 kilos of cheese. They did have a rash from eating cheese over Christmas holiday, yeah. Too much cheese. Jan finds it hilarious. It's like a full-on, like... Literally. Everyone's like, are you sunburned?

18:07I said, it's cheese. That's it. I promise. You're taking a fish. It was cheese, yeah. I've seen the amount of cheese in his fridge. I'm shocked. It was bad. It was bad. That's like what happens to me, because I get a rash. A rash. You probably got the same thing. I did get told not to eat hard cheese, actually. But I also got told that I couldn't eat gluten, so I was like, I'm not doing both. You can't have both. No. You can't. One or the other. One or the other. One or the other. whilst Ange gets our dinner ready let's talk about you guys in the kitchen do you like cooking Erin? do you enjoy it?

18:41yeah I'm on a journey I don't know about you but I kind of grew up just absolutely avoiding it because I just didn't want to make someone a bad dish yeah but over the last year like I've been really really just getting into it because my girlfriend loves food and like she just she works for the NHS so whenever she comes home I kind of love being like, I've made you dinner. Like it's such a lovely act, like to offer someone a nice home cooked meal when they come in. So I've been getting into it and I'm really loving it. What do you enjoy making? I love making a pie. I love lasagna. Nice little pasta dish here and there.

19:20But I also like experiment. Like, you know, there are things of the moment, people did like prawn toast taco things. Like I made those. How great are they? Yeah. Yeah, like a cheeky little thing of the moment. Do you see stuff on TikTok and be like, I could do that? I'll try it, yeah. Okay. It's a game changer. Because when people simplify it like that, you can then just go, okay, I can do that. And then you learn to elevate it in different ways. So I'm on a journey. You're on a journey. Okay, it's a good journey to be on. And do you like cooking, Stephen? I've broken down. The journey stops. I'm the journey, I've broken down on my journey.

19:51The journey's pulled over. No, I'm all right, I can do it when I have to. Hannah is the most amazing cook, yeah. she's a wonderful cook not only is she she's magnificent but she's an absolutely brilliant cook so it doesn't I don't really get the opportunity apart from one dish you got your signature pan of scouse oh scouse yeah do you know what when I said to my mum I spoke to my mum yesterday and she was like he was on dish and I said you guys were coming on and my mum said are you going to do scouse for Stephen and I said we're not mother she's like I love scouse we're not mother she's like I love scouse so fill us in on Scouse because we have like potato rash in Manchester.

20:32Okay. So I guess they're sort of stewy neighbours. Yeah, stewy neighbours. But there's different versions of Scouse but if you're going to be traditional about it then it's like, I suppose it's me nana's and me auntie vera's. Me man was never brilliant at Scouse. Me man was a boss little kooky but she wasn't great at Scouse. But the best Scouse maker, the best Scouse maker was our vera. Yeah, I'm going to say our vera. And it's just potatoes and stew and steak. A nice big load of stew and steak that you leave you do early in the morning, you leave it in the pot for ages. Spuds, turnip, and basically that's your lot.

21:07Carrots, a little bit of onion. And you're just cooking away with it all together. And you just leave it all. Yeah, water, and just leave it right throughout the day. Oxhole. Oxhole cubes, a little tiny bit of misto. And then vegetable and beef stock, and just let it do its own thing. Let it do its thing. But Hannah's kind of bastardized it a little bit because she likes sprouts and mushrooms, so I have to throw them in it. But I'd get shot in Liverpool if I turned up with that, do you know what I mean? That's not a pot, that's some kind of posh scouser. No, yeah. What, a sprout? Yeah. Is a sprout posh?

21:41No, but you can't deviate. Oh, right, okay. Half era would seriously have battered me if I'd gone... Seriously, she'd have gone, what are you doing? Really? Yeah, she'd have kicked off properly. Okay. By putting sprouts and mushrooms in the stew. Okay, okay. Don't mess with it. And then crispy bread. And crispy bread. And did you like it as a kid? I loved it as a kid. I loved it. And my nana used to do it with... My nana used to... Is it pickled cabbage? Oh, I love you. Red pickled cabbage. Yeah. My nana used to do it with a little bit of pickled cabbage. Or beetroot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beetroot.

22:14Lovely. And do you ever have it with a crust? Yeah. Like the sort of hat off a pie, basically. No, no, no. We don't have a crust on that. But what I used to do was I'm putting a butty. when you put everything in a butty when you're a kid, don't you? Yeah, yeah. Put it in a butty, a big scouts butty, it was delicious. Because my mum used to do like potato ration, do those things and when I was a kid, I always, I didn't like it. I always wanted something exciting or something that I thought was like modern. I wanted like a Chinese takeaway or all the stuff we weren't allowed or like a pizza or something that, I don't know, I'd seen people eating on like American telly basically.

22:47Yeah. And then now, I like crave it. I always want like potato ration like the stuff that my mum made. Did you do that when you got home? yeah yeah yeah big time is that the first thing you ask for when you come in I always ask my mum's roast her potatoes yes my mum's roast potatoes what is that mum's roast potatoes are just the one no Hannah's Hannah's Hannah's suppose wow my mum's roast potatoes are elite elite and I can't do it and I like cooking and I do it all the time always do a roast don't even try the mums have it down yeah I don't know how she does it I don't I don't know I think it's that you've got to have like a 65-year-old oven tray.

23:26Yes. Or woman, yeah. A 65-year-old woman. Yeah. When I'm a 65-year-old woman, then you'll be all right. You'll be fine. It'll start getting good. Yeah, it'll start getting good. It'll start getting good. Crispy on the outside, soft on the edge. That's it. It's so hard to do. Impossible. Impossible. Unless you're a 65-year-old woman. Okay, food is here. You guys took it in, please. I'll talk me through what's going on. Yeah, go on. Fill us in. So we've got a dalgosh. which is basically lamb shanks that we've cooked down with these red lentils and it's layers of onion first in your pan slowly sweat those down add your ginger, your garlic, tomatoes then you sort of make this lovely thick sauce and then you add your cumin, your coriander your turmeric, chilli powder, paprika and then that forms a really thick paste and then you roast off your lamb shanks in that paste and then cover it with stock and cook it for about an hour and then add your lentils to it and then add a bit more stock and cook it for another like 45 minutes until like all the meat's falling off the bones of the lamb shanks.

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24:33And then we've got all these like little sides. And then we've got all our, you know, mango chutney, our pickles, our lovely rata. Oh, yeah. Lovely crispy onions as well if you want to put those on top. I've framed from coriander because it's only Nick that lot. Would you like coriander? No, I'm all good. I'm all good. I'm all good. I'm not craving coriander. None of us. Are you someone who can literally like put the bush in your mouth? Yeah, yeah. Excuse me? Yeah. Yes, I am. You know what I mean? Some people like, there's like a big clump of it and they're like ramming it in their mouth. Yeah.

25:02So whose recipe was this? So this is Malika Basu recipe on obviously Waitrose website. So if you need to get all the information, you can go there. Fill me in on any good pro tips to make this really good. Is there anything that you should... I think it's slow and long. Slow and long. You can't rush it. So this is quite a good entertainer. Yeah. So if you've got like anyone coming over that's wanting to go and glow, you know, you want to talk about the ceremony, keep it going. And just monitor it. You can't sort of, it's not like, you know, you're saying about the, not scram, what was the dish?

25:30Scouse. Scouse. You leave it. You can leave this, but once you add the lentils, it might stick. So you've got to watch it. That's what's coming through the lentils. Yeah, you see. So you have to sort of turn the lamb and just scrape, sort of move it at the bottom so they don't stick and burn. Because once something starts to burn, then it will season all with burn. It's really good. You know, so that's... It's really good. There you go. That's absolutely gorgeous. Made my week now. And I like the way there's a tiny hint of spice. Yeah, not too much. Not overly, I mean, I love spice, but there's a tiny little spice that just comes back and kicks you down the back of the mouth, doesn't it?

26:03Yeah, exactly, yeah. Oh, my word. It's very good. Thanks, Ben. Do you make a curry at home, Ben? So I don't normally make curries at home, but actually some of these recipes, and I'm not saying it because it's a Waitrose podcast, but they work and they're brilliant. And they're easier to do. And I like the idea that I'm always about, I have lots of people over for dinner quite a lot of times, and I just like one pot on the table. I don't want a plate up for 20 people. I just want a couple of plates on the food, everyone helping themselves. And I think curry's brilliant for that. He just let everyone get on with it.

26:32What made you want to be a chef, Ange? So my grandparents were Italian immigrants and came over after the First World War and set up fish and chip shops and cafes in Wales. And then the three brothers came up to London. That's right, because there's a lot of Italians in Wales. Yeah, a lot in Wales. then they came up to London. And then when I was a teenager and we'd moved up, because my dad was quite young, we'd moved up to be near both sets of grandparents. I used to work in the chip shop during, like, on the Friday and in the holidays. And I was quite a good worker and I was quick and stuff.

27:01And I liked the idea, because every August, my grandmother would shut the shop and everyone would go back to Italy for holiday. And I liked the idea of being your own boss. And I said, that's great, just shut the shop. Do what you want. And I was good at that. My mum always said, and I've said this many times, I'm sure he says, Michael, he's got the brains. Angela's very good with her hands. Cheers, Mum. Wow. And I was quite good at it. And so I think if you like it and you love it, the passion was there already. What about for you guys? When did you realise you wanted to act? Was there something you ever remember watching on the telly or a particular character or somewhere where you're like, you know, I could do that?

27:43We had a wonderful teacher in school called Mr. Thacker. And we used to do, like, plays. It was just that. It was just really lovely. And Mr. Thacker was a wonderful teacher, and he just made it fun and exciting, and he completely changed our school. Do you know what I mean? That aspect of letting kids be creative, and kids who were shy or kids who were kind of extroverted, it was just a really wonderful opportunity for us to do something. And I just remember thinking, wow, I really like this. And that's kind of where it comes from. Yeah. And what sort of kid were you? Were you shy? I was cheeky.

28:16Yeah, I can't imagine you being shy. I wasn't shy, I was cheeky. I brought no trouble to the door, though. No. Just a bit cheeky, yeah. Let's just make that obvious, you know what I mean? Not naughty, cheeky. No, I'm cheeky. There's a difference. There is a difference. And what about for you, Erin? What was it that sort of instilled a want to act in you? Similar to you, I had a really amazing drama teacher at my secondary school, Mr Williams. Guy Williams. He was, like, this, like, infamous, amazing man. Great man. I know, right? Guy Williams. Guy Williams. But he just, like, took drama so seriously.

28:50And I was just like, oh. We took this play that we made to Bosnia for some random reason. Like, it was, like, part of this, like... For your school. So, yeah, so basically, like, it was once... So, an exchange or something. Yeah, it was, like, part of this, like, Mostar Youth Theatre Festival thing. Wow. So we took a piece of work out there. And I have the distinct memory of being on the plane home and just being like, I want to be an actor. Like, I'm definitely going to do this. And it was like, yeah, after that trip being like, I can be a part of something that can really communicate something to people.

29:19And how old were you then when you were like, this is it? I was 18. So it had been in my life since like four, but I think I was 18 and I was like on the plane back and I was like, I'm going to really try and do this. I was 16 when I knew I wanted to do it. Because I went to the Everyman Youth Theatre then. You told me about that, yeah. Do you know what I mean? And there was a wonderful teacher called Jerry. Jerry Pantamon Jerry Pantamon that was his name I swear to God seriously real name I'm not lying I'm not lying his name was Jerry Pantamon maybe that was just the name he used when I was here I don't know if he was actually christened or born Jerry Pantamon makes me make sense but Jerry was magnificent do you know what I mean and there was me a kid in like a little lacoste t-shirt and a slachy and a pair of Adidas tainies and then I was with a lad in a pair of baggy jeans and a flower in his back bin and you know his hair all over the place and he was into So there was him and then there was a girl who was a punk and was a little hippie.

30:11So it was this wonderful place to be creative or to meet all different people from different backgrounds and different environments. Yeah, yeah. And it was that kind of, we were all there for the one common purpose and that was to create something. That's it. And Jerry brought that out of here, do you know what I mean? He was amazing. I remember we did a play called Easy that he wrote and we kind of, I remember being on stage thinking, oh wow, I'd love to do this forever. Yeah. To reckon I could maybe make enough money to like maybe raise a family and get out. But I remember just thinking at the back of the stage, waiting, thinking, wow, I'd love to do this for you.

30:43I love that you had those moments. What about, didn't you have that moment, girls? I actually, I mean, I always, I loved music. I always grew up loving music and wanting to make music and then have the worst singing voice ever and have no, awful. Really? Like to the point when I've done karaoke, the people in the karaoke place on my life, I've said, can you not do that again? I did it once in New York and the guy came over and was like, you, please. Stop. Wow. Just let someone else do it. Anyway, so I've always loved music. I wanted to do something in music. And then I really loved radio. And we didn't have Sky or we didn't have the internet.

31:21So we had four channels and you had to just watch whatever your mom and dad was watching. So I was like, I don't want to watch. I don't know, The Bill or something. So I'd go to my room and listen to the radio. And I thought I'd discovered John Peel. And I was like, there's this guy on at night. plays brilliant music my dad was like John Peel that's him yeah because like no one in my school was talking about it yeah of course and he was on like 10 o 'clock at night so I'd go there and I just loved listening to music and then I thought oh mate that was the next best thing I thought I should do something that was near to music as it could be yeah and I remember saying to my brother's girlfriend at the time like I want to be a radio DJ but I feel like it's like saying I want to be like a footballer or an astronaut and she was like people are astronauts.

32:08And I was like, people are footballers. I was like, f*** them, they are. And I can remember that day vividly. I love that. People are astronauts. That's so true. She was like, so just do it. So I was like, all right, they are. All right, they are. And you, please. Yeah. Yes, please. I'm good. I'm still going. I'm still going. Have the chats and have the food. If you want to try this, by the way, if you want to make this at home, then you can, of course, get all the ingredients and the recipe, waitrose.com forward slash dish recipes. They're all on there. There's a wine pairing as well, which is a Gewurztraminer.

32:48Oh, wow. Yeah, and it's an aromatic white, so great with a sort of spicy Asian flavor like what we're having right now. Perfect. Hey, we need to talk about A Thousand Blows because there's a brand new season of it to watch right now, which you can watch on Disney Plus. You can see it whenever you like. Do go watch it if you've not already seen it. And tell us where we find you guys in season two because, Stephen, you're in a bit of a bad way in this one. Yeah. Bit of old trench foot going on. Yeah, yeah. Wow, yeah, no, well picked up. Oh, I said that today. In the show, not me. In the show. Yeah, he's had an amazing fall from grace, do you know what I mean?

33:28This man who we saw throughout the first series. Jesus. Well, at the end of that first series, he committed this horrific act, and that's what holds him, do you know what I mean? And we pick it up. We actually filmed it back to back. Right. So we did season one. Then we had... One week. One week break. Yeah. And then we did season two. Oh, my God. Yeah. And how long does it take to do a season of something like this? Because it's such a... Four or five? Four or five months. Four or five months. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Because it was all built for it, wasn't it? The set. Because I was looking, going, where did they film that?

34:02Yeah, the set, we built that set from scratch. Our magnificent crew, our set designer, and all of the amazingly talented production people involved in that was magnificent. They actually, each brick was painted individually, wasn't it? I love that fact. That's amazing. Yeah. And the attention to detail was huge. So we could walk around that set and amaze ourselves. You know what I mean? You could go down the street, turn around, and there's a big horse. You'd be like, whoa. You didn't feel like it was a set. No, it didn't feel like it. It felt like it was a real world. You really did feel it. Yeah.

34:35It feels like it has depth and layers. It's a total world that you've created in the show. Yeah. It really does. You can tell the detail of it when you watch it. And where's your storyline, Erin, when we open up season two? So, yeah, Mary Carr is getting the gang back together. Yeah. So she's adamant that the elephants need to assemble. Yeah. And she... Elephants assemble. Elephants assemble. And she's doing it. She's leading the way. And she's finding them all again. and, like, she's going to lead a very, very big heist that happens over the course of the series. It's very exciting. Now, to prepare for your role, you did...

35:09I read somewhere that you, like, learnt to pickpocket. Yeah. Where did you learn that? Well, I didn't, like, take the task on myself. Basically, the boys had to go and do boxing, and we got to go and do pickpocketing lessons. Right, okay. Oxford Street. It was just... I bloody wish. It was anyway, it was in... He's a professional pickpocketer. He genuinely... But he, yeah, a professional pickpocketer came. And that's like a tongue twister, that is. A professional pickpocketer. But yeah, he kind of got us all in a room and taught us how to do it. But essentially, you've just got to have... Your wits about...

35:44Well, it's the distraction, isn't it? And the balls to do it. You've just got to be able to stick your hand in someone's pocket. You do it at the Golden Globes to anyone. Yeah. That's what you're doing, essentially. Not to take it away from the craftsmanship of it, but essentially, you're just sticking your hand in someone's pocket. without noticing. You are though, yeah. So it's all about like pointing over there and doing a little bit of this situation. Yeah, a little bit. The illusion's quite a fun thing to do though, isn't it? It is fun. It is fun. And they would like have us in like those big boxing scenes.

36:12They'd have us just like roaming around. They'd set up loads of cameras and they'd just be like, right, go pickpocket. So like it was legit and we could do it. And that's the beauty about what we do sometimes, you know what I mean? That kind of, I never thought I'd be able to play a boxer. But yeah, you do, you get it, you know, you do the training, you get in shape and you learn the style and what to do and you have a great time creating these characters, don't we? Look, we're just working class kids from, do you know what I mean? From Little Estates, so to be on a big, massive set, which is kind of tantamount to Hollywood stars.

36:45It's Disney, but it's like a Disney set. The scale of it's wonderful. And we just had such a great time, do you know what I mean? We were skipping to school, weren't we? Yeah, it was, honestly. It was an absolute dream. And the great thing about, you know, the concept of what came about for us was we were real people that existed. We're not saying this is what happened, but these were true people that existed at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're in the history books and everything. The amount of research you did for Mary. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff out there about the 40 elephants, and so that kind of created the backbone.

37:17So you were like, okay, they robbed Harrods. Like, they nicked kids. Like, they did all these horrendous things, but it was so informative because you're like, oh, okay, if you're willing to do that, that then has a massive impact on my mentality going into this. So it was pretty special. Do you enjoy all the research and the backstory? I love it. But I found out we're very similar. We like to dig and dig and dig and then just throw it all up in the air when we're on set. Because you kind of can't hold on to any of that stuff. You have to just kind of see what happens. So that was also really special, to get to dance with you in the ring in that sense.

37:52That was really fun. So you did the two series back-to-back. You also did, of course, adolescence together. So you spent a lot of time together, like a few years together. When did you first cross paths? When was the first time that you heard of each other, that you were going to work of each other? I mean, I'd obviously blimmin' known about this guy. Yeah, I mean, you know about him, yeah, yeah. So as soon as I knew he was connected to A Thousand Blows, I was like, what is going on? And then, obviously, thank God it went my way. And then, luckily, we had the same publicist, and she reached out, and she was like, he's not supposed to do this, but Stephen wants to call you.

38:26And I was like, what? And then my phone rang and obviously I knew it was you but I just let it go because I was like, as if that's Stephen Graham on the end of that phone. Just so I had to go and then I ran out to my car and I had a chat with you in the car because I was like, I was too overwhelmed. Sorry, why isn't he allowed to call you to ask? He's not allowed to offer you a job or something? I don't know, as in like to go through the kind of back door of your publicist, it was a little sneaky. What happened was we were looking to cast for Mary and our publicist said, she said to me, have you seen Erin Doherty?

38:59And I was like, yeah, she's brilliant, but she's dead posh, isn't she? And she went, no. And I was like, yeah, she is, she's Princess Anne. And she was like, and I was like, and I said, and I said, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but we want to cast people from working class backgrounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not being out of order in any way, shape or form. No, no, for the honesty of it. Yeah, and I wanted you to have that authenticity. Do you know what I mean? That's what we were looking for. Yeah. We wanted to create that opportunity for a working-class actor. That was what I wanted. And I went, no, she's dead posh.

39:26Not against posh people at all. But she went, no, she's not that posh. And I was like, what do you mean, not that posh? She went, she's a proper cop. And I went, no, she's not. She went, watch this. And she pulled this, you were the bag of something. Yeah, some video I did. You know, those like, what's in my bag? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was one of them random things. So she's gone, look, and I just did, right, what's in my bag? And I went, f***ing up. I went, wow. I went, wow, what's going on there? That's Mary. And then I went, she's got to come in. We've got to get it in. And that was it.

40:00And then I saw her. And then I fell in love with her. That's so funny. And she's... I can't believe it. Like, thank God I did that bloody video. I can't, like, I can't, yeah. It's very, very strange. Now she's one of the most marvellous actors I've ever worked with. Oh, wow. Thankfully. No, honestly, the love is, the love is mutual. Yeah, it's a real special thing. on a thousand blows and then adolescence happened because of that first yeah that was first yeah I remember asking you at the end of a thousand blows what you were up to just we were on it was just you and me on set that day and we were walking to set from the green room and I was like what's going on you started talking to me about this thing and you were like and the camera's going to follow the police car and I was like wow that's going to be amazing and then we obviously wrapped that and that was the end and then a couple of months later you reached out again yeah because I couldn't say there and then and I want you to do this just in case it doesn't come off Sure, yeah.

40:52Do you know what I mean? So when I was telling you the idea and the possibility, I wanted to go, oh, do you want to do it? But I wasn't even asking for that reason. No, no, no, you weren't fishing. No, I wasn't. But I remember when we phoned, when me and Hannah phoned you and said, you know, would you do it? You were blown away, weren't you? Yeah. I didn't even read it. I was just like, of course I'm going to do that. She didn't read it. She just said she was going to do it. Yeah. Because you don't say no. Like, you're just cool. Of course you do it. Yeah. So it was such a special project. Yeah.

41:20We've had a wonderful time together, haven't we? It's been gorgeous. Keep doing stuff together. Yeah, we'd love to. I'm worried about it's going to be dessert time, Ang. Well, carry on talking, Nick. Leave the job. I'm so, so excited. No, should we go over and watch it? Are you going to go around? Stephen's going ringside. Here we go. Ringside. Here we go, he's going ringside. I don't think I've ever made a Milfoy with this much pressure. Oh, there we go. Silence. Yeah. We're currently just watching Angela construct it now. Yeah. And then it's... Put loads of raspberries here. Put those on there.

42:00You like raspberries, Stephen? Yes, I do. Beautiful. Then we'll probably do another... We'll do three layers, I think. Okay, okay. Three layers. This is special. Yeah, that's it. So put that layer on top there. There we go. I feel like one of them judges now. Okay, so... I've gone on. And talk us through what you're doing, Kit. And then we've got... Then we've got our double cream on here. Oh, yeah. Where's my icing sugar? Oh, icing sugar. Oh, here we go. There we go. This is quite a big one, I think. I'm sure my friend Richard Burstyn would be going, oh, she's made that too big. She's done that bad too big.

42:35Half me wants to just pick it up. Blimey. Yeah, you can do that. Thank you. Is that what you do? You put it in like a sarnie? Well, you could do, but it'll fall apart on you. What are you doing then? I don't know how you're going to do that. I just know it's going to be unbelievable. Oh my God, I'm so gutted that you can't have it. I know, me too. Oh, and you know what, chop it off, just a little espresso. A little espresso. Do you want a little espresso? Oh, could I... At the end of a... Do you want an espresso? Let's do it! What? We're going to town. A little espresso for the guys as well. Oh my word.

43:06That's it. Absolutely delicious. A little espresso. That's next level, that. There we go. Oh, yes. Yes. Actually, give us a recipe for that, Ange. Yeah. Let's do that. Puff pastry. Yeah, puff pastry. And you can buy, this is pre-rolled, pre-made puff pastry. So it's in a packet thing and you just throw it in the oven. You flatten it out, do you? No, no, you don't have to do that at all. Literally just roll it out, prick it with a fork, and let it rise up. And that will take about 15, 20 minutes. And then you don't want it to rise too high, and it rises about that. Then flip it over the other side, very gently turn it over, and another sort of five minutes in the oven.

43:42And then I've just done whipped cream and raspberries. And just slice it and layer it as a sandwich. And that sliced it like that, like a sandwich. Yeah, I probably put a bit too much cream there. No, you didn't. Erin Doherty, it's time for your fast food quiz. Okay. Are you ready? I'm so ready. Okay. I've had a coffee. Might make no sense. What is your favourite way to eat eggs? Dippy. Correct. I love a dip. I love that. Favourite sandwich filling? Sausage. Form of potato. Favourite form of potato? Yeah. Roast. Roast. What dish do you miss the most when you're away from home? Tuna pasta. Oh, okay.

44:22Just a solid, solid meal. What's the best crisp, Aaron? Prawn cocktail. Wow. Whoa. Exactly. Wow, you've gone there. Why? Why is that? Where's the way? Where is it? Prawn cocktail. What's wrong with the name, Chris? When did you last have a packet of prawn cocktails? Are you having a lot? Do they even make them anymore? Are you joking me? Prawn cocktails are everywhere. You get them in every... You get prawn cocktail what's-its. You get prawn cocktail... A prawn cocktail what's-it is banging. You get prawn cocktail Pringles. You get prawn cocktail everything. You get prawn cocktail Pringles. You guys, I lost the floor.

45:08I don't think I've had a prawn cocktail since my gran's in like... Are you kidding me, guys? Get back on a prawn cocktail. We're going back. We're on a baby's jam. Yeah, I mean... Okay, so what's your favourite pasta? Linguini. Linguini, nice. What is the best Sunday roast? My mum's. Yes, very good. What's your favourite toast topping? Oh, I love marmalade. Nice. I love marmalade. Good shout, yeah. Yeah, good shout. with the bits with the bits with the bits very impressed Steve very impressed I had to take a photo smash the curry as well did you see that two bowls two bowls I'm going to take a picture of that plan two bowls alright Stephen let's do you Stephen Graham are you ready for fast food quiz yeah let's go what is the best way to eat eggs poached okay what's your favourite sandwich filling oh okay proper proper proper Okay, I'm going to go post...

46:09Is it Iberico, Iberico? How do you pronounce it? Oh, Iberico. Iberico, Iberico. Oh, yeah, I'm dyslexic. Iberico, I'm. So am I, don't worry. And I'm just going to throw this at you. Now, you may change your opinion of me entirely now. Never. Dairy Lee. Really? I'm telling you. Iberico, I'm, and some dairy, a bit of a load of dairy. I still get dairy Lee, you know. I mean, I like a dairy Lee. I like a dairy Lee, and I like the red ones in the wax as well. Baby bell. Baby bell. Too deadly with Ibiruco ham. And a little bit of tomato. I'm not sure I've had it with the Ibiruco ham. And a bit of tomato.

46:41I'll give it a go. I'll give it a go. We'll try it. We'll try it. I'm up for it. See what I had with cocktail crisps. You can't. I can't, but I know that it's wrong. It's not really cheese, is it? No. It's not cheese. It's not cheese. It's not cheese. It's still deadly. What is your favourite herb?

47:00Not guilty, your honour. next question that was a flashback there aren't many herbs out there by the way people yeah go on what's your favourite crisps come on then just the broad cocktail what's yours I haven't really been doing crisps for a while but if you're gonna if you're gonna throw oh no them thingy them spicy crisps now oh like a chilli yeah like a jalapeno oh wow yeah yeah kind of yeah yeah like a spicy crisps what's your favourite if you have one Kitchen utensil.

47:35Seren on the card. A garlic crusher. Oh, very good. Okay. And when you're away, what's your favourite dish you miss from home? Tomato soup. Aww. Yeah, tomato soup. That's solid. Yeah. And finally, favourite dish from your childhood? I think... my ma used to make these chops with rice, but it was like, her gravy was unbelievable. Right. It was like a kind of, it was a gravy with little bits of tomato, wasn't it? But yeah, and her chips, my ma's chips. My ma's chips were the bollocks. Were they thick chips? Yeah, they were brilliant. They were proper, yeah, with the bits in the chip, man, and all that.

48:17yeah, But yeah, so my ma's chips. Chops, chips, and rice. Nice. Chops, chips, and rice. Like that? Chops, and rice? Chops, chips, and rice. And we come to the end of the show question. For your chance to win the Waitrose goodie bag here. One each, of course. That's yours, Aaron. One question each. One question. Can we confer? You can confer. Oh, great. We're a team. There we go. Here we go. Okay. Stephen and Aaron, thank you for coming on Dish. The first of our brand new season. Yeah. Woo! Woo! Yeah. To win the Waitrose goodie bag, we need one of you to step up and juggle. Oh, for God's sake. Please choose your fruit of choice and show us what you have.

49:02Underneath your bag there. Well, you're never going to juggle a lemon, are you? Well, as the old saying goes. I haven't done this in a while. Okay. When was the last time you juggled? Oh, there's glasses and everything, guys. I'm moving on. Keep it high, Riz. All right, here we go. Okay, here we go. Oh, oh. Oh! Oh, okay. It's all right. Okay, we're okay. You do what you do. Okay. Oh. Yeah! Sorry, I was excited by that. Oh, oh! Yeah!

49:34I'm done! I did it! I did it! I was actually... I was alright, right? I did it, you see! I always had the eyes of the girls too! We were genuinely like, Oh, she did it! She did it! I did it! We were like kids, we were like parents at a school play, didn't we? Oh, look at our girlie! Oh, look at our... That's how I shout it on the stage. Look at her. Honestly, my heart rate is through the roof. I was nervous. I did. I did. The performer, I was like, I need to do this. I'm going to do this now. Oh, my word. What are you doing here? The goodie bags are yours, guys. Thank you very much. Well done.

50:15Thank you. I look at you and I'm like, yeah, I'll do it. Yeah, I'll do it. You've got to give it a go. You've got to give it a go. You smashed it. Congrats on everything. And congrats on the new series as well. You can see A Thousand Blows on Disney Plus right now. Guys, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. That was so fun. That was so fun. I loved it. That was so much fun. That was really lovely. Well, there we go. Stephen Graham and Aaron Doherty. I loved them. No, that's made my... Everything's been made worthwhile. No, honestly, that's like...

50:49They've been one of my favourite guests. Really? Oh, I love them. Genuinely, because I do think he is iconic. You know, he is going to go down as, if not now, one of the greatest actors of his generation. And I think influential about all the stuff he does now, culturally, I think is really important. So, no, that has. I can't wait. I even took a picture of his empty plate for the Milfoy. I love that you did that last minute. I love when you said you were... Should I tell you something of the truth, though? Yeah. So, I was at Linewood last night and I was thinking in my head and I thought, I'm going to make this puff pastry.

51:20So, I was there in the pastry. We had a dinner and I was rolling this puff pastry. and I did cook it but it didn't quite work as well as I had so I really wanted to make it for him because I'm such a fan you see so we did it and you know if I forgot about you and your gluten otherwise I'd have made you I'm sorry about that no don't worry but thank you and I love them together such a good dynamic yes she's brilliant they were really great together they were fantastic well thank you for listening everybody thanks for being here for kicking off the final season and if you do want to get in touch with us we'd love to hear from you.

51:54You can email us, dish at waittrials.co.uk. Send us any questions, any queries, any thoughts. Anything you like. Anything you like. Get in touch with us. Just chat. Next week, we welcome Ramesh Ranganathan, who we've wanted on this podcast for years. And finally, he's cracked. In fact, he was about this time last year. It was a year ago, I think we asked him. He said, oh, come on. No, no, no. No, we've been asking for longer than a year. Oh, really? This time last year was when we struck the deal and went on his radio show. It's taken him a year to get him on. It's taken him a year to get back.

52:28That's true, very true. So finally, we've got him. Got him on. So guys, thank you for listening. And yeah, we'll see you next week for more Dish.

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The Golden Globe winners join us for a tasty Dish dinner. 

We return back from a break with a full table hosting two incredible actors, Stephen Graham and Erin Doherty. Just days after their Golden Globes success (where they both won awards for their roles in Adolescence), Stephen and Erin join us to chat about Season 2 of A Thousand Blows, now streaming on Disney +. The series sees them reprise their roles as bare-knuckle boxer Sugar Goodson and notorious criminal Mary Carr in the historical drama set in the East End. 

But before any chat, Stephen needs to be fed. He is starving! Angela delivers with a dal gosht, a north Indian curry from Mallika Basu, where lamb falls off the bone into a sauce packed with spiced lentils. The Waitrose wine experts have paired the meal with a bottle of cave de Turckheim Gewurztraminer, but our quartet are focusing on spicy rum sours, made with non-alcoholic rum. To finish, Angela makes a last-minute decision to pull together a millefeuille, under Stephen’s watchful gaze. 

It’s a brilliant episode to launch our ‘Dish Eternal Infinity’ season, with chat about the perfect pan of Scouse, the merits of prawn cocktail crisps (Erin, we’re with you on that one), and there’s a Dish debut for a Lazy Susan. 

As for Stephen’s hunger? Most definitely dealt with! 

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The recipe for dal gosht was created for Waitrose by Mallika Basu 

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