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Podcast Episode Notes: Dish - Tim Key, Sticky Sausage & Apple Braise, and a Beer
Episode Overview
- Podcast Title: Dish
- Hosts: Nick Grimshaw and Angela Hartnett
- Episode Title: Tim Key, Sticky Sausage & Apple Braise, and a Beer
- Release Year: 2026
- Guest: Tim Key (English poet, comedian, actor, and screenwriter)
Episode Summary In this episode, Tim Key joins Nick and Angela to discuss his experiences over the past year, including his film *The Ballad Of Wallis Island*, a book of poems titled *L.A. Baby!*, and his upcoming stand-up tour, *Loganberry*. The episode is filled with laughter, pub anecdotes, and discussions about food, particularly focusing on the cooking of sticky sausage and apple braise paired with a beer.
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Key Themes and Discussions
Tim Key's Career
- Recent Work:
- *The Ballad of Wallis Island* has gained critical acclaim, winning three British Independent Film Awards.
- Released a poetry book, *L.A. Baby!*
- Announced a new stand-up show, *Loganberry*, set for a UK tour in February.
- Collaborations:
- Long-time collaborator with Steve Coogan (appearances in *Saxondale* and various *Alan Partridge* projects).
Food and Cooking
- Dish of the Day: Sticky Sausage & Apple Braise
- Cooked by Angela Hartnett.
- Accompanied by mashed potatoes.
- Served with Château Maris Organic Les Planels wine.
- Food Preferences:
- Tim’s likes include roast chicken, fish and chips (from the chippy), and cashew nuts.
- Dislikes include cream and overly posh interpretations of traditional dishes.
Pub Culture
- Tim's Love for Pubs:
- Describes the pub as a "fun church" and shares anecdotes about local pubs and characters.
- Discusses the significance of community pubs and the social aspects they bring.
Humor and Poetry
- Live Poetry Segment:
- Tim reads a humorous poem about food from his poetry collection.
- Quirky Anecdotes:
- Engaging stories about eating in the bath, and a humorous discussion about a past fancy dress contest where Tim dressed as a potato.
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Key Takeaways
- Food as a Central Theme: The episode revolves around discussing food and cooking with a focus on traditional British dishes.
- Tim Key's Humor: His comedic style shines through in anecdotes and a playful banter with hosts Nick and Angela.
- Pub Culture Appreciation: The importance of local pubs as community hubs is highlighted alongside Tim's personal experiences.
Future Episode Teaser
- The next episode features Helena Bonham Carter, indicating a shift to another high-profile guest and more intriguing culinary discussions.
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Contact and Resources
- Recipes: Visit [waitrose.com/dishrecipes](https://waitrose.com/dishrecipes) for recipes.
- Contact: For listener feedback or inquiries, email [dish@waitrose.co.uk](mailto:dish@waitrose.co.uk).
- Watch Episodes: Available on YouTube and Spotify.
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Closing Thoughts The first episode of the year sets an engaging tone for 2026, blending humor, culinary expertise, and heartfelt conversations about life and career experiences. Nick Grimshaw and Angela Hartnett create an inviting atmosphere that encourages warmth and laughter, making the podcast a delightful listen for food lovers and comedy fans alike.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJanuary Blues and New Beginnings
1:21 to 2:14
Hosts discuss overcoming January blues and embracing the new year.
“Well, today on the show, kicking off 2026, I feel like it's a perfect person for a sort of antidote to January blues.”
Introducing Tim Key: Comedian and Actor
2:14 to 3:35
Get to know Tim Key, the guest for this episode, and his recent works.
“And the past few years with Mish, I've been like, you know what I'm into?”
Seville Oranges and Marmalade Season
3:35 to 4:48
Explore the seasonality of Seville oranges and their use in marmalade.
“Along with Paddington Bear, we're all making our marmalade.”
Welcoming Tim Key to the Show
4:48 to 5:19
The hosts welcome Tim Key and discuss their excitement for his appearance.
“And another thing that you wouldn't know necessarily is they're good with meat so you can cook with them because they're a natural tenderizer, you see.”
Tim Key's Potato Costume Story
5:19 to 6:32
Tim shares a humorous story about his childhood fancy dress costume.
“How far into the show does the intro come from?”
Pubs, Community, and Local Characters
6:32 to 7:40
Discussing the significance of pubs and the characters within them.
“No, the pub is a real fantastic way to spend your weekend.”
The Joy of Drinking in Pubs
7:40 to 8:27
Exploring the experience and enjoyment of drinking in pubs.
“One of three female landlords in London who have been running their...”
Valentine's Day and Pub Revelry
8:27 to 9:30
The hosts share their experiences of enjoying time in pubs during special occasions.
“We went on Monday and had the worst hangover of my entire life.”
Tim Key's Bathtub Lasagna Confession
9:30 to 11:18
Tim recounts a humorous anecdote about eating lasagna in the bath.
“I was having 17 glasses of champagne in the French house.”
Drinking and Relaxation in the Bath
11:18 to 14:00
Hosts discuss their preferences for drinking while relaxing in the bath.
“No, you know what I do want to talk about?”
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Preparing for a Relaxing Bath
14:00 to 14:34
Discover how a gin and tonic can enhance a relaxing bath experience.
“Then I might, like, we're getting ready, he might bring me a gin and tonic in the bath.”
Live Poetry and Inspirations from L.A.
14:34 to 16:34
Learn about the inspiration behind Tim Key's latest poetry collection and his experiences in L.A.
“Before we get into your likes and dislikes, we thought we could have a bit of live poetry.”
Culinary Memories: Lunch on Set
16:34 to 17:49
Tim shares a humorous poem about the extravagant food he encountered while filming.
“it was just like a really nice thing to have.”
Food Likes and Dislikes
17:49 to 19:25
Explore Tim Key's favorite foods and his strong opinions on fish and chips.
“That was because I didn't want you to cook me fish and chips.”
The Quest for the Perfect Burger
19:25 to 22:20
Join Tim and his guest as they discuss the ideal burger experience and its cultural significance.
“You say a ham and cheese toastie can be good.”
A Toast to Drinks: Favorites and Rituals
22:20 to 24:09
Tim shares his favorite beverages and the delightful flight routine that involves champagne.
“So when they do like a posh burger or posh fish and chips.”
Cooking Bangers and Mash
24:09 to 28:00
Tim discusses his love for bangers and mash and how he prepares the dish.
“I like amaretto in an Indian restaurant.”
Tim Key's Sticky Sausages and Apple Braise
28:00 to 29:18
Tim Key shares a simple recipe for sticky sausages in an apple braise.
“I'm just trying to think of baby Timkie.”
Childhood Memories and Comfort Foods
29:18 to 30:28
Discussion about childhood experiences related to food, specifically mashed potatoes.
“and slice them into nice thin slices, like sort of segments, really.”
The Art of Gravy and Sauces
30:28 to 33:10
Exploring the complexities and nuances of making gravy.
“I'd say for about, I don't know, a couple of kilos, you're talking about 150 grams maybe.”
Behind the Scenes of Tim's Film
33:10 to 36:21
Tim discusses the journey of creating his film and the emotional connection it brings.
“Well, there's more going on than a usual gravy.”
The Impact of Film Festivals
36:21 to 38:46
Tim reflects on the success and reception of his film at Sundance and beyond.
“And yeah, we wrote a short film and then he met a director because he did a Barclays advert and then the director said, got anything else that's like, you know, a bit more substantial?”
Anecdotes from Live Performances
38:46 to 41:02
Tim shares funny experiences and insights from his live performances.
“Well, I'd like to try and remember where are the nice pubs in London where they chill their glasses?”
The Journey into Solo Comedy
42:00 to 44:16
Discover the challenges and rewards of performing solo comedy.
“How old were you when you first started doing it?”
Feedback and Support in Comedy
44:16 to 46:32
Learn about the importance of peer support in the comedy scene.
“It just takes time and it's kind of very rewarding.”
The Pressure of Performing for Icons
46:32 to 47:20
Explore the pressure of performing in front of famous figures and critics.
“because I've sorted his team yeah yeah yeah it's not like the secret millionaire that's weird now you're wrong have you heard it and when someone's been there, you'll never guess who's there.”
Fast Food Quiz Fun
47:20 to 49:58
Enjoy a lighthearted quiz revealing Tim Key's food preferences.
“Well, we've got to come, we've got to come.”
Listener Story: A Surreal Encounter
49:58 to 55:58
Hear a listener's surreal story about encountering Angela Hartnett.
“And I think there's, you know, these two kind of, you know, pillars of the society, where there's the spaghetti bolognese made by my mum at home and the spaghetti bolognese made by my dad when we go camping.”
Transcript
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1:04We're going to give you a beer because you like a beer. Usually, yeah. What is it? 320. 320. Yeah, that's fine. A few little livers as well. You've put my beer miles away. Each question runs... Was a bit closer. Am I your first guest? Yeah.
1:24Hello, welcome to Dish from Waitrose. I'm Nick Grimshaw. And I'm Angela Hartnett. And here we are. First episode of 2026. I know. How does 2026 sound and feel to you? Just close your eyes. And just think about those numbers. How do they feel? I'm not thinking about them. I don't know, actually. I think it feels quite good. 2026. Well, today on the show, kicking off 2026, I feel like it's a perfect person for a sort of antidote to January blues. I hate when people talk about January blues. You keep talking about it a lot. I know, because I feel like it's everywhere you look. Like everything. Everything you've got the telly on, I read something.
2:02There's no January blues. It's January. Get over it. There's one, as our, I was going to say, our dear friend Mish, my husband to be, says, is that there's one every year. Exactly. Get into it. Get over it. What is the big drama? So I quite like it. And the past few years with Mish, I've been like, you know what I'm into? It's like a new month, a new year. It's something quite exciting. But I think this is a good tonic to kick off for the year as Tim Key is going to be joining us. I'm a massive fan of Tim Key. I think he's so funny, so excellent at what he does. We loved his movie. We loved the movie, The Ballad of Wallace Island, which kind of came out at Sundance Festival, kind of this time last year.
2:43And it didn't get released, I don't think, until like autumn time in cinemas. But people have totally fallen in love with this movie. They really, really have. And I think we've both seen it. And I thought it was very special, very heartfelt, very honest, really funny. Yeah. And yeah, subversive and weird. and I really, really cried my eyes out to it as well. I know, it was emotional. It was fantastic, loved it. Yeah, so we're going to talk about that film, which was one of the best of last year. He released a book, poetry as well, called LA Baby. He's going to be on tour in February, doing this tour called Lovenberry as well.
3:16And we actually, I had not seen this picture for 16 years. Oh, wow. But Tim Key joined me on the radio in February 2010. so 16 years ago we did the radio together I have a horrendous cold sore in this image really bad this was my night time radio one show since 10 till midnight and people used to come and join us after gigs very of its time so I'm very excited to see Tim very excited to have a cold sore looking good don't get them anymore before we get Tim in Let's go from cold source to seasonality. Seasonality. Oranges. Oranges. Well, a particular type of orange. Seville oranges. Seville orange.
4:04Yeah. Makes marmalade. Oh, yes. Marmalade season. This is season. January is the time. Along with Paddington Bear, we're all making our marmalade. So you can only get them at this time of year, probably for the next four to six weeks. And they obviously have that much, they're bitter, much more bitter than your average orange. You can actually freeze Seville oranges, bizarrely. Right. And then if you don't have time to make the marmalade at that time, you can make it a little bit later in the year. But ideally for marmalade. Or you can make sort of, you can, you know, do little candied peels. You take off the peel, blanch it three or four times in a sugar syrup and then dry that so you have like this lovely sugary peeled orange.
4:45But other than that, Seville oranges is marmalade season. So they grow through the winter? Yeah, grow through the winter. And another thing that you wouldn't know necessarily is they're good with meat so you can cook with them because they're a natural tenderizer, you see. Because there you go. Have you been to Seville? I have many, many moons ago. People love Seville. It's a beautiful city. It is beautiful. We should go one time. We should. We love saying that. Maybe that should be our ambition. Actually do some of the shit we talk about. Do something we talk about, yeah. We're off to Seville.
5:12So you don't have to go to Seville to get these. You can get these in Waitrose. Get these in Waitrose this time of the year. Okay. Well, should we welcome my guest, Tim Key? Can't wait. Let's kick off Dish for 2026. Right, so we need the intro for Tim. Shall we? Yes, let's do it. How far into the show does the intro come from? Quite a while in it, actually. Unbelievably, weirdly, yes. Okay, time to welcome our first ever poet to this. Oh, I know. Very excited. Yes, a comedian, an actor, a screenwriter, and a man who also came, and I love this, second place in a fancy dress contest dressed as a potato.
5:45His editor, of course, is the wonderful Tim Key, everybody. Thank you. Hi. I'm good. Thanks for having me. Oh my God, thank you for coming. It was a very sad day. The second place potato. Yeah. Where were you? What was happening? I think my dad, no offence to him, but I think he'd spent too much time on my brother's costume. What was your brother's costume? Hickory Dickory Dock. Oh, that's quite... And it was like a grandfather clock with a mouse going up and the clock was striking one and my brother's face was coming out of the clock face. Yeah. Meanwhile, I'm a sack.
6:19Well, thank you for coming. we were very excited that you said yes to coming also we were really excited I love when a guest wants a beer I'm like I just think it's going to be I think you did lead the witness slightly did we? well I don't think I demanded a beer I think there was like there was a conversation I'm very happy to have it I like going to the pub and having a pint of beer I think we all like that actually well there are some people who don't I've met them never spoken to them again much Oh, yeah. I can't be doing it with a... No, the pub is a real fantastic way to spend your weekend.
6:54The dream situation in a pub. I really do like going to the pub. It is a really great place. Yeah. It's like a, you know, it's a spiritual place. Yeah. It is. It's like a fun church. Yeah, a fun church. You must admit, yeah. Yeah, same, same. Sort of, yeah. Same, same. No, but a great pub is part of the community, and that's what I think. You've got a great pub, right by you. We've got a great pub, and we all know Sandra, and she knows every neighbour, and it's the sort of pub that you can walk in and I've said it many times, you don't need to know or have plans with anyone. You walk in and you will know someone.
7:25Or you'll know the bar team and then someone else will come in and you can have a great night on spec. That's what I like. It's an impromptu night. That is a very nice thing to have. And they're the best things, yeah. Is that your local? That's our local, yes. Do you ever name what it is? I do. The Golden Heart on Commercial Street. It's fabulous. I mean, and Sandra is amazing. She's been running it for 40 years. I love Sandra. One of three female landlords in London who have been running their... There's Roxy Beaujolais. Solid name. And then Leslie Lewis from the French House. Oh, we love Leslie.
7:54Those three ladies have been running their pubs for over 40 years. Wow. It's amazing, you know. I do love the French House. Oh, there you go. With their little halves. Yes, that's it. Well, Tim, I'm going to put in a request now. This is totally off. Yeah, come on. My husband's the chef there. Yeah. What? At the French House? Yeah, up there. Fantastic. And on Pints Day, which is April 1st... What are you talking about? They have a pint. Pint day. And it would be great if you came in and pulled a pint and then they auctioned it off for charity. If you fancy doing that as you like pubs, just ask, can you?
8:25Yeah, that's a plight no. Yeah. Oh, I'll pull a pint down there. Yeah, that's what we need to do. I like that. We went on Monday and had the worst hangover of my entire life. Did you? How long were you in the French? We arrived... To get a hangover, that's a lot of glasses. We arrived at 2.15. 2.15, quarter past two. And we left about 10. Well, that's seven hours 45. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, we felt pretty bad. Felt pretty bad. That's quite a lot of half pints there. And wines and everything else. How many half pints? How regular are the half pints coming in there? Well, I couldn't have any. Gluten free.
9:04Gluten, hello. So I thought the most beer adjacent fun thing to have in December was champagne. That is quite beer adjacent, isn't it? Don't you think? Oh, God, yes. It's his long lost brother. That's not the next step. I said, I feel like they're friends. A beer and champagne. It just felt less alky than getting on the white wine. Were you having bottles of champagne or were you having glasses of champagne? Bottles of champagne. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On a Monday. It was quite a distressing day. Yeah, it was. It was a harrowing hangover. Were you on your own? Yeah, I was on my own.
9:35Yeah. I was having 17 glasses of champagne in the French house. Yeah. What's wrong with that? Well, you're bossing Soho. I do feel like if you do, You're like, so totally normal. Yeah, that's what to do. Totally normal. I do feel like that pub in particular, if someone was to go in and drink for seven hours, 45 minutes champagne exclusively, you'd be like, great character. You met Trevor or whoever. I hate the characters. Do you? Why? What, in any pub or just in life? Well, they get away with binge drinking. Soho. There's a chair in the Coach and Horses. Do you know that chair? Yes, I know the Coach and Horses.
10:14So as you go in on your right, there's a chair, which is not quite a sofa, but it's like wider than a chair. Well, I don't know. I sat there once and it was about 7pm on Valentine's Day. And I'm sitting there and then a character comes and sits next to me. Oh, in the small... Well, it'll be like you sitting... Because he's a character, he sort of comes with a hat and a cane.
10:41Did he try to make conversation? Well, I mean, I don't... Look, he was horrible to me. No. Not a mean character. We like the nice characters. Oh, no nice characters. No nice characters we love. Mean ones, we all hate them. I love them. Don't need them. Dottie's my favourite pub character. Dottie, in French house. Yes, Dottie. Who's 90. I said, she must be in her 80s now. And I swear Neil said she's 96. She is in her 90s. And she has a pint of gin and tonic. A pint of gin and tonic. Yeah. Every day. Is she a nice character? she's a lovely character Dottie's fabulous yeah I've just had too many bad moments with characters yeah it's the hat it's the hat I mean I know but they're not wearing this no not that no theirs are like purple obviously and it's a cape I keep forgetting about the cape scarf obviously obviously yeah yeah and they're sort of annoyed that everyone else is allowed in Soho yeah of course of course they are because they're like the king they're like the legend of Soho yeah no wristwatch obviously yeah pocket watch I'm not making it up I just got an image of you on that chair with this person well you're right to have it that happened I'm just wearing a jumper and my jeans probably my baseball cap and then suddenly any guy twirling his cane no one else in the pub no one else just you oh I love well here's the characters I want to be like that one nice characters Nice characters, nice characters, nice characters.
12:14No, you know what I do want to talk about? Because when we're looking for an intro, we always find something quite funny to talk about. So we went with the potato. My other thing that we were going to go with, but I just thought it was quite good because food-based, was that you once confessed to having a lasagna in the bath. Oh. Yeah. Wow. I don't know where, but that exists when you Google Timkey lasagna bath, which I do. On a regular basis. Yeah. Was it a regular basis or just a one-off experience? I think it might have been less than one. Yeah. Oh! Knowing me, that might have been just me joking.
12:46Oh, just joking. I can't remember having a... Intrins, you can't tell. Yes. No, you can't, actually. No, you can't tell. Oh, it was my column. Oh, your tone has changed now. I was writing any old thing for that. Oh, yeah. Well, you had to file 700 words every week, and I did that for two years. So at some point, you've got to sort of hit the old lasagna in the bath scenario. It's a classic. Do you ever eat in the bath, then? Never. Never. Never. I don't even like, I think I used to think, yeah, maybe I had like a beer in the bath once or twice. Right, yeah. You know, when you're sort of like in your teens.
13:17But now I don't really like. In your teens? Well, I don't really like the idea of like retreating to my bath with a beer now. I like a coffee in the bath. Right. I don't like a bath. Oh, I love a bath. Love a bath. But you like a hug. I like a hug. You're a complicated fellow. I really am. I thought huggers were bathers. No, I'm not a bather. But you, Angela, you like a hug. Love a hug. And you love a bath. Love a bath, love a swim. No snacks in the bath, but do you have a drink in the bath? I have a coffee in the bath. I'll have a coffee or in the morning. Not a beer, but I have been known if you're up for a relaxed...
13:54If Neil and I have gone away for the weekend or somewhere and we're in a nice hotel and we've got a bath. Forgot about Neil. Then I might, like, we're getting ready, he might bring me a gin and tonic in the bath. That's a nice little way, isn't it? When you dress it up like that, it sounds better than me sort of naked going into my fridge and getting a Heineken. Wet footprints.
14:22Foam on my elbows.
14:27Going into my fifth hour in the bath.
14:34Before we get into your likes and dislikes, we thought we could have a bit of live poetry. Oh, lovely. We thought maybe we'd like something from your latest offering, L.A., baby. L.A., baby. Baby. So tell us about L.A., baby, because this was... You were in L.A. I was. This one's quite true. A lot of this book's really true. It's like a memoir. Got cast in a show. Yes. Went to L.A. and then just, you know, you've been to LA. Have you been to LA? No, never. I have, yes. Have you lived there? No, I went for six weeks once. Right, that's similar to this. Yes. This was 10, 12 weeks in the game. But it's quite a discombobulating place.
15:11No pubs. No pubs. Bars, but not quite, yeah, different. We went thinking like maybe we'll live here forever. Did you? And I think on about day three we were like, nah. Yeah, but so go on, so tell us. So I had that where you arrive and you're like, I felt like out of place. And a moment of feeling like I was in the wrong place in my life, you know. And I was, I mean, I'm really happy I took the job. But that first week, you're like, why am I in this place? And yeah, all that stuff, I find that really hard. No pubs and no walking. They're like two of the things I do, really. They're my only hobbies.
15:49Yeah, they sort of are. And anyway, so I just started, and no friends, obviously. Not obviously. And there was a heatwave as well, so I think you couldn't really go outside. And that's not the classic of mine. So anyway, I can't stress enough, that's not what the book is about. But that sort of first week was like, and that usually plunges me into writing. And so not a pub pub, but find a little bar and take my little notepad. and order a beer at the bar and then write a couple of poems. And then that was really, really useful to get me through that first week. There is something about being creative outside of that that's quite good for me to have an outlet to write.
16:32And then when it starts coming together, it was just like a really nice thing to have. Just going alongside my job was to, in the evenings, write this. Or if I had a day off, go to a cafe and write poems. So yeah, let's have a little bit of poetry on this. Yeah, finally. Some bloody poetry. A bit of culture. Yeah, finally. Well, I mean, I guess this is one about food. This is on-set food. Okay. It's called lunch. There was a decent spread for lunch. They had fish tacos, braised beef, peri-peri chicken, shrimp in jello, jalapeno smashed potatoes, eggplants, Caesar salad, wild garlic and basil pasta, chocolate chip cookies, sauteed spinach, wild rice and butter bean salad, red velvet cake, ice cream, and an array of cheese and butters.
17:16Once it was all on my plate, I scuttled under a trailer and devour the lot like the most disgraceful hog you can imagine. It's quite true, this one. Occasionally, actors or producers would come by and whack my legs with a strap. I begged them to throw more fish tacos at me. I was helpless in the face of the magnificent scents wafting towards me from the trestle tables. Thank you. It's slice-of-life stuff. It's so good. I love it. Angela's left yeah that is half my audience walking out sorry I just need to check you out oh no no no well I thought kind of more poetry now because your food likes and dislikes this feels like a list you were sort of born to write oh this is good I can't remember what I wrote it's amazing you've got another book here just this email send it to the publisher your loves roast chicken cashew nuts and Indian food you also love Newmarket sausages which you think are sausages from Newmarket I believe they are spicy food fish and chips but only from the chippy.
18:20That's true. That was because I didn't want you to cook me fish and chips. I thought that would have been a disaster. Yeah, I... Because, you know, I don't like someone's take on fish and chips. Agree. A take on anything else, but fish and chips sort of has to be from the fish and chips shop. Yeah. In my opinion. You're right. I don't like fish and chips in, like, a pub or a restaurant. Yeah. Well, the annoying thing is I keep doing it, but I know I don't like it. Yeah, same. I need to stop that. Yeah, let's stop. Yeah. You'll have a WhatsApp group. Please. We'll stop together. if you ever need me just message I'm thinking of doing it John Tim Don't do it Nick Don't do it You like haddock chowder banoffee pie Heinz chocolate sponge really hard grapes Oh wow What's really good about this is today I've had haddock chowder and really hard grapes Oh Congratulations I'll go to the fruit shop or whatever it's called and I'll just I'll press the grape through the cellophane if that's a phrase Oh yeah And if there's no give then I'm taking it They're coming with me They're coming with me.
19:17They're coming with me, yeah. Yeah, they're in my sack. Yeah, get them out. You also said you like beef rendang from time to time. Well, I once had beef rendang in, I was living in Kuala Lumpur for a bit. And there was a... What do we do there? Filming. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's my successful acting career. Wow, hello. You say a ham and cheese toastie can be good. Ham and cheese toastie? Oh, yeah, it definitely can. It can be good. I mean, I think probably post your French house debacle, a ham and cheese toasty the next lunchtime would have been good. Perfect, yeah. I think it really can be very good.
19:51It can be really good. Yeah, a little spice in there. What would you put in there? I'd do three different cheeses. We made one recently for Helena Bonham Carter, didn't we? Yeah. Amazing sentence.
20:04That's what she wanted. That's what she wanted. Then I would just have a toasty. But yeah, what did we have? We had parmesan in there, mozzarella, conté and gruyere. A couple of baby bells. Baby bells, yeah. Love that no-no. Yeah, do you have a Breville? No, I don't have a Breville. Should I have a Breville? I think so. I've got a George Foreman grill. Okay. So you can sort of do a certain extent. But maybe I should have a Breville. Yeah, I like that when the bread gets like, it's got the flattened, glossy edge. Oh, like the little poppy. Do you butter both sides of the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, my bad.
20:38That was offensive. I'm sorry, just checking. Are you an idiot? I learned from the best. and I love this sentence slices of pizza somewhere like New York well yeah we don't have a culture of slices and so it's another tick for LA or you know America in general but I think I remember it best in New York the slice culture is really really good burgers like a fate or something I agree with a lot I mean I did write it but I agree with all this yeah I mean like a burger well I'm thinking like a burger in a pub I think... Wrong. Yeah, it's slightly going down the fish and chip avenue, isn't it? Yeah, agreed.
21:19I think we can rule out burger in a bath. So where are you getting your burger? I don't mind burger at McDonald's or a Burger King at an airport. That's absolutely fine. Or in another capital city. Yeah. But I had a fantastic Big Mac in Seoul. There you go. Yeah, I bet. But my perfect burger is, yeah, you're at a Fate or maybe a street party or something like that. And some member of the community, you know. Has made it. Yeah, and they're called someone like Coach. And they're like cooking these, they're flipping these burgers and then they're on an unfussy bap. Oh, yeah. Flour. Yeah, probably is.
21:59Yeah, yeah. Or sesame. Yeah. Or burger buns, you know. Someone's gone, oh, you go down to Tesco's and get us 96 burger buns. Burger buns, yeah. They're all there. And then it's maybe even like the processed flap of cheese. Yeah, yeah. The orange cheese. Yeah. We like that. And away you go. That's what you want. I think that you and I don't like this when something normal attempts to be posh in a pub. So when they do like a posh burger or posh fish and chips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't want that. No. This is why I safeguarded myself against that in my answers with the fish and chips situation. But I think I've also got my Helena Bonham Carter on slightly by what my choice, one of my choices.
22:38Because I'm thinking I don't want to rule that one out because I'd like to know how to cook a really good version of that. Yes. When you go on something like Dish, you just need to play it slightly. Wow. You're playing the game. You're playing the game. You really did play the game because you said, we said, you know, is there anything that you'd like Angela to cook for you? Is there anything you'd like to learn from Angela? And I quote, it says, I wouldn't mind seeing bangers and mash in action. I wouldn't mind. In action. You know, it's something I cook. Yeah. And I like it. and I'm sure that there's a bed of bangers and mash out there.
23:12Right, okay. How do you make yours? Cook the sausages, mash the potatoes and bistro. No onions? Onion gravy. Okay, yeah. Yeah, but I don't think I'm doing it right. I mean, it's make some gravy and then there's onions in it and there must be more to it. This is the thing. I think I'd like to see you at work and how that works. And then it's usually with peas. Yeah. And I've got like an addiction to white pepper. There's a lot of white pepper on there. Yeah. And then... That's the Steve Coogan thing as well. Yeah, Steve Coogan loves white pepper. Yeah. Steve. Steve. I think of him every time I've seen him.
23:58Yeah, whenever I see white pepper. I mean, it's always Steve, yeah. The drink section was good because this was like a poem. Yeah. I like beer. I like my father's homebrew. I like Five Points beer. I like Diet Coke, but gave up. I like grapefruit juice. I like sparkling water. I like champagne on a flight. I like amaretto in an Indian restaurant. I like carafts of red wine in places like France. Instant coffee I like. That's beautiful. No, it's nice hearing all that back. Yeah. Of course it's because I wrote it, but that was music to my ears. It was beautiful. It was beautiful. And I do agree with all of those things.
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24:33Champagne on a flight. Yes. That's just, that feels like it's a betrayal if someone's offering you champagne on a flight. I'm talking about when you're doing a job and they're flying you there and then suddenly there's someone offering you champagne. That's, you know, you'd be mad. You've got to take it. Of course. You're mad at the time. You have to take it. Just knock it back. And that's part of the routine now of like on a flight. I think I know what I'm doing. I think I know how I'm getting a transatlantic flight done, which is the champagne and then it's a beer when that's offered and then there's another one with my lunch it's watching Die Hard and then sleep.
25:11I love that for you. That's a nice flight. It's very simple. Dislikes. I don't like cream. You don't like cream. Correct. Yeah. You don't like cream. It says even though you've put b 'niffi pie you'd like to what did I say? B 'niffi. I'm not going mad here. Don't gaslight me. You did say b 'niffi. B 'niffi. Yeah you're tromping me. Yeah. Don't look at me like that when you've said Benefi. That's insane. You said it's crystal clear you said Benefi. I said Benefi. Did I? Yeah. Yeah. I'm not an idiot.
25:52You may have got away with that with Helena Bollam-Garter. I refuse to be troll. Binoffee Binoffee Well I eat around the cream You eat around the cream Yeah I do eat around the cream Okay that's good to know Very good to know I think binoffee pie Is probably my favourite Because it's I guess that's One of those things isn't it It's my father's favourite So it's my favourite It's your sort of Yeah generation Yeah so I'm guessing My mother could cook A mean binoffee pie Yeah Because your mum Was a good cook right Yeah fantastic And when you were growing up Was you look forward To Carol's dinners And do you still get Nice dinners off Carol Uh Carol It's funny you saying Carol.
26:30Have you met Carol? I've never met Carol, but I'm talking like I know it. Yeah, you really are. How is Carol? No, Carol... God, actually, weirdly, I think Bill is doing a lot more of the cooking these days. But I mean, like, you know, Carol's the OG. Yeah, I didn't have Bill down as a cook. No, but he can cook. Well, he was obviously cook when we go camping. Yes. But Carol, her... I would say her greatest, her finest crowning moment was a pork and ginger casserole that she used to... I don't know. You know when your parents have dinner parties and you're like about 10 and you get to try something and it's all, you know, the atmosphere all changes in the house and you've got these sort of adults there.
27:08And I do remember this ginger and pork situation, which is very nice, yeah. I loved that feeling when there was a dinner party. It's kind of mad, isn't it? Yeah. I hid behind the curtains once. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I got in too deep. Well, you know, I didn't see much. I was behind the curtains when they sat down. and so we're probably talking about sort of, you know, 8.15 and I'm sort of, it's past my bedtime and then I'm like behind the curtains to the French windows probably for another 20 minutes and then just thinking, I've snookered myself here. There's no, you can't pop out because that's in that five minute window.
27:45It's too long. It's too long. So I don't know, I mean, in my mind I'm still there. I think this is a new one of me was born and that's who you're talking to. I think that guy just did a practical joke that went so wrong that he stayed there. Oh my God. Just sort of listening to Mick Tyler. I'm just trying to think of baby Timkie. I'm just like absolutely petrified. I'm imagining you just small in pyjamas but with a beard. With my beard. With my book of poems.
28:20Oh God, it was horrible. Oh, God, it is good. Oh, that's great. So I've made sticky sausages in an apple braise. And these are the New Market sausages. Amazing. Which, and it's the cuts of meat that make them, really large cuts of meat make them extra juicy and it's their spice mix that they add to it. And that's what gives it that New Market sausage. I think this is bringing back memories. Is it? Are you happy with these? I think they do. Good memories. Yeah. Not bad. Not bad. Childhood memories. Oh, great. They work, they work. So a New Market sausage, right, but it's got like visible fat in it.
28:52Visible bits of fat and meat in it. You like a limark, is it? And you have done a little gluten-free one. Thank you, Angela. Thanks for being so thoughtful. That's all right. No problem. I like this apple gravy. Oh, yeah. Tell us about this, Ange. This is such a simple supper dish for everyone to use. So first of all, just brown your sausages in a pan. Just nicely brown them. A little bit of oil in there and brown them. Take them out of the pan. Leave them to one side. Then have two red onions and one apple. and slice them into nice thin slices, like sort of segments, really. So cut it in half, cut it in half again, and keep cutting it.
29:28And then just saute that all together in that pan that you had your sausages in until they start to caramelize a little bit, start to get a little bit of color. Then add your chicken stock, big spoon of whole grain mustard, a little bit of honey, add your sausages back into the pan, chop time, and then in the oven for about 15 to 20 minutes. It's so easy and quick. What does the oven do? Well, it basically cooks the sausages through. I knew it had to be, yeah, whoa. No, but also the sauce will start to thicken as well. And if it's not quite thick enough, you can reduce it a little bit more on the stove.
30:03And all the flavours kind of... All the flavours stick together, you see. And then you have these. And if you want more mustard, that's why I put extra mustard. If you want more whole grain or Dijon there, you can have all that, you see. Can you talk to me about the mash? Because this mash, my dad was very anti-mash growing up. Really? Why is that? We never really had it. He just didn't like it. Okay. So he'd never have it. So, you know, you just don't... I don't think I'd have it till I went to uni or something. I'm just like, not at it. But this is delicious. This is potato, butter and milk.
30:32How much butter? A fair bit of butter. Probably more butter than milk. I'd say for about, I don't know, a couple of kilos, you're talking about 150 grams maybe. It's not so much, really. Great mash, Ang. It's really, really good. Really delicious. Didn't you have like mashed beef with Simon Rimmer and Matt Tebert? I didn't have mashed beef. Well, they were getting jealous of, what was it? So when Bob came on, Bob Mortimer, he said he'd been on Saturday Kitchen and he had been on Sunday brunch the same time and they both did delicious mashed potatoes. And then he said, and then you said, would yours be any better?
31:09And I said, I'd beat both of them. I can make better mashed potatoes than Simon Rimmer and Matt Tebert. So these guys have now said there's beef everywhere. Yeah, mashed potato. Tato, Meshko. Tim, you're actually making a film about the Meshko. We're filming with him later in the year. Where are we going on that? I'm playing Rimmer. Yeah, you're playing Rimmer. Don't laugh when I drink as I'll spit it out. I'd be a fantastic Rimmer. I'd love to play Rimmer. I think so. I'd watch. I'm actually serious. No, I don't. Because also, I really like him. He's a lovely man. And I think I could probably do quite a good Rimmer.
31:48And I wouldn't say that about most people. No. I think I'd be out of my depth. But Rimmer? Yeah. You could play a Rimmer. A lot of awards go to people who play real life people. Yeah. That's what you're aiming for, is that it? What, in Rimmer? That could be your... Who's my lovejoy? I think the film is called Rimmer, for a start. Yeah. Tim Key's Rimmer. Tim Key's Rimmer. And the plot is this mash stuff, yeah? Yeah. Would you play yourself? No, I couldn't play myself. So who do you think, who would you like to play you? Oh God, no, I'm not answering that question. Oh no. We could have our friend Helena from Cheat Toasters.
32:24Helena Bonham Carter from Dish. She doesn't eat meat. She doesn't have to eat the meat, she's acting. Sorry, yeah, of course. I'm sure she doesn't f***ing live in the forest like she's played before either. Has she done films where she lives in the forest? I don't know, probably. If you want to try this recipe, then you can get it on waitrose.com forward slash dish recipes. All the recipes, all the ingredients are on there. What's the wine pairing with this, Ang? Got to be a red. Got to be a red. I haven't finished talking about this food yet, but do your wine. So we have a Chateau Maris organic and it's a medium bodied red with berry notes.
33:03Well, my question is, would I be able to cook this? Yes. Yes. Of course you could. Love that. Yeah. I mean, the gravy. Are we saying it's a gravy? Yeah, I say it's a gravy. Are we saying it's a gravy? Yeah. Well, there's more going on than a usual gravy. Yeah, there is. In fairness to you, I usually think of a gravy as sort of slightly more liquid. Yeah. Well, I reduced it a little bit because I think we want that stickiness and sweetness and that. So you could have it a little bit looser if you wanted to. I wouldn't want it looser. No. Thank you, thank you. I think you've reduced it to the right amount.
33:38Thank you. And you could easily make this. I wouldn't like the sausages reduced, I must say. No. Don't reduce those. Three is good for me. Don't reduce those, please. Don't reduce those, please. In the sort of, you know, in the chef wars, what are the cornerstones that a chef would hate for someone to say that another chef does that better? Is mashed potato one of the cornerstones of chef wars? Well, I think it's more that each chef or restaurant's known for. So I'm known for Italian food, so I wouldn't particularly like someone who said, much better pasta over that place. Because, you know, you want to think you're doing really good stuff.
34:16I reckon most male chefs want to cook the best steak, I think, easily. Of course they would. You know, they'd like to think they cook the best steak. It's a very macho dish. It's a very macho dish. I don't like it. Truly. Maybe that's why. Do you have, like, a direct pasta rival? Great. Oh. There's restaurants. I tell you, the restaurant, I think, is the best in Italian food at the moment. and she's not a rival. No, he's about to relaunch. Pizza Express aren't pissing about.
34:53Anyway, go on, who do you think is your... No, Jess, who runs Canteen in Notting Hill. Oh, yeah. She's a good mate. She's fantastic. She's a really brilliant chef. And I always go to a restaurant if I think, I don't want to eat in it, and I'll go there and have a great Italian. I really want to go. And I would happily, if anyone said to me, you're running like Jess's Canteen, I would take that as a compliment because I think she's doing such a good job. Well, with respect, it wasn't the question Nick asked. Okay. Who's your big pasta rival? I'm not going to say that. Shut up the pair of you. We want to hear a spaghetti arsehole.
35:26Yeah. Who's the spaghetti arsehole? No, no, no. No. I think you were like this as a kid, weren't you? You've got that cheeky little face. That sort of thing, yeah. Behind my curtain. Behind the curtain. I love behind the curtain. We had to talk about The Ballad of Wallace Island. Yeah. Because I loved this film. I saw it a couple of weeks back. Cried my eyes out. I thought it was so brilliant and so funny and such a unique tale. And I don't know, I just loved it. And I watched so much stuff for work and pleasure. Of course. And I don't know, it just really got me, really moved me. I thought it was brilliant.
36:03But it was something that you have been working on for a while. It was a short film initially, right? Like what? 20 years ago? 10 years ago? Yeah. Me and Tom Basden wrote it. We were living together. Doesn't matter where, does it? Yeah, we like to know. We like to know details. Kentstown. Yeah. And yeah, we wrote a short film and then he met a director because he did a Barclays advert and then the director said, got anything else that's like, you know, a bit more substantial? Yeah. And he said, yeah, we've got a short film. Right. And then we shot it and yeah, it was just like a really nice experience and we were both quite new and hadn't done much on camera and Griff who directed it, I think it was like, it just sort of was very special for all of us and then we edited it and when it was finished I think we all just loved it so much that it just stuck with us I think and I think we're all kind of, yeah, I definitely can speak for Tom in this he loves to just move on to the next thing and I think I do as well but there was just this weird thing where it kept on coming back into our minds that maybe there is something more with it even though the short was quite a small story and the feature is also quite a small story but we worked out I think it was Tom worked it out how you could turn it into a feature which is to bring in another character from his life who he was with before and then amazingly that sort of 17 year period between writing them just worked in our favour and kind of became what the film was about about people being stuck in a certain part of their life.
37:38And so I feel like whatever we would have written 17 years ago would have been nothing like this film. And all of our kind of life poured into it. It's a really special film. And I think it's got so much heart to it. I've never made a film before. And I don't know whether we'll ever make one like this again because I feel like there's, I don't know, there's so much of our lives that have gone into it. Because me and Tom are best friends. And yeah, so I kind of, throughout the whole process of it, of people starting to watch it and like word of mouth and it staying in cinemas for, I mean, just it being in a cinema was crazy to us, but then people started to watch it and people have been very nice about it.
38:14And I don't know how that's happened. I feel it's partly because we worked really hard and tried to do it really well, but I think there's something else that happens, which is like luck or alchemy that you can't really expect for your next film that you hope will happen again. But I kind of just really appreciate that on this one, all of the planets seemed to you know match up and it sort of was something that we were just incredibly proud of and it's been like you say it's been such a great reaction because it was at Sundance and everyone's I wasn't there but everyone stood up and did a standing ovation and then it's done incredibly well over the year and then even like Richard Curtis who hello hello hello good at making films quote said it is one of the ten greatest British movies of all time come on that's pretty good Come on.
39:01Come on. Come on. That's good. Yeah, that is good. We're voting that. Tens a lot. Yeah, tens a lot. Could say top five. Tell that to your brother. Could say top five, yeah. So I'm having a dis-a-runner now. I'm dis-a-runner. Well, I'd like to try and remember where are the nice pubs in London where they chill their glasses? Oh, yeah, where? I don't know. Oh, I don't know. But it really rings a bell. I think I've been to one in the last week where you order the, you ask for the drink and they go into a fridge and they're like, ice cold, the glasses. I need to think what that is. I don't know, but do you know what?
39:38We've talked about it before on Dish, I'm sure, where we talked about massive in Japan or when I've been in Tokyo, every bar, the glass is cold. I know. The glass is cold. Not a big effort, but a huge return. I'm like, whoa, the glass is cold. It's amazing. We just don't do it. We're doing like Spain. Space. Space? No, no, Space Behind the Bar. Oh, indeed. Yeah, when I was up at, you know, Jupiter the other day, there was loads of cold glasses. Do it in space. It's another movie. And, you know, in space. Me, in space, setting up a bar with nice cold glasses. Well, nice of this. Cheers. Not an Indian restaurant, but, you know.
40:23No, next best thing. A disarrono, next best thing, yeah. I don't know if I've had a disarrono in years. Oof. Mmm, it's nice. Would you like an ice cube? Yeah. I'm not sure I thought that was wrong. Bit my tongue there. Bit my tongue not to say obviously. Thank you. That was so incredible. That's great. There. Yes. Ooh, a disorono. Do you ever have a disorono, Ange? I don't, actually. We cook with it. Put it in desserts, yeah. Hey, we need to talk about your tour. Well, we don't have to do it sold out. We do. Whoa! We don't need to do it. We can just have a fun chat about others' time. Yeah. Wait, it's sold out?
40:59I think so. Wow. Oh, you know so. Yeah. Hey, that's good. I expect nothing less than... No, no, I didn't expect nothing less than... Respect, yeah, yeah. Small venues, three nights. It's not really a tour. One person. It's called Loganbury. It's called Loganbury. What can we expect when we can't buy tickets to Loganbury? Loganbury, I don't know, really. I find it difficult to talk about my life thing. I think it works best if you just come along. We'll just come along. Yeah, but it's like a mixture of kind of poetry and, you know, I yell I say stuff talk to people sold throw my poems down drink Cronenberg Soviet lounge music and then it ends and we're done Soviet lounge music I'm going down it's the classic it's the basic it's like Billy Connolly yeah if you do want to get a ticket tinkey.co.uk although we think it's sold out so do you know what we're adding dates oh all sorts of things due to popular demand Well, yeah, why not?
41:58Do you remember your very first foray into doing a live show? Yeah. How old were you when you first started doing it? The first time I did a solo behind a mic, I mean, I can't even bear to think about it. This is very triggering. But I did it probably in about 2002, but I couldn't really work out how to do it. And what was it that made you want to do it? I think it's the most terrifying form of performance. I did it because I sort of gradually found myself accidentally in that world, but in a sketch show and just doing comedy. And then I think I just, without like overthinking it, I think I wanted to do, I think it feels like it's the most pure form of comedy.
42:42It might not be. I don't necessarily think it is, but there's definitely something about it which is quite gladiatorial. Yeah. And which feels like it's just something that you should try because it's different from being with your little sketch group, which I really loved. It's kind of how probably me and Tom learn how to write and perform and stuff like that. But there is something about just this both horrible and exhilarating about walking out on your own in front of an audience who have come to see you. But it's a very difficult place to get to because you have to, like, die several times on the way and you have to be on the N15 night bus and lose your trousers.
43:31It's not like plain sailing. Yeah, it's not easy. It's not like a lot of jobs, you know. There's moments where you're, like, really, really soul-searching and wondering why you're doing it. But I don't know. It's probably the same when you're in your job where you start and you're like, I can't, I literally don't know how to do this. and there's people doubting you and you've got your own self-doubt and you're serving up a load of crap. Thanks for asking. But I mean, like, that's the thing. That's what you're sort of dealing with. I'm trying to learn how to do it and I even know that what I'm serving up to these people, I'm not enjoying that.
44:07And then you need to get to a point where you are loving what you're doing and then your people, your audience, or in your case, your customers, are enjoying what you're serving. It just takes time and it's kind of very rewarding. Obviously, you spoke about Tommy being your best friend and everything. Would he come along and sort of criticise, not criticise, give you feedback? Yeah, we had a very good, it was almost no feedback or certainly no criticism, but just a feeling that we'd watch each other's stuff. And that was all like Mark Watson was in that, you know, when we were all starting Alex Horne.
44:38So we would be like very supportive of one another. There would never be a bit where we'd say, yeah. Actually, the one thing I think we're always managing each other about is being on stage and saying that this is going terribly. And you know when you're on stage, it's very tempting to do that. And then you see one of the others doing that, and you're like, God, that is mad. How that changes a room. If you're on stage and it's going terribly, and then you tell them, and they're like, yeah, I thought it was. Yeah, I thought it was. You've got to keep that secret. Because I wanted to know, have you had, Ange, when you've had chefs come to your restaurant and have you had it when you've known, I don't know, someone you've looked up to or someone that you've loved being in the audience?
45:24That must be not a nice experience. Or is it? Maybe it's quite gratifying. I don't know. There's something about it when you're like, yeah, so Steve Coogan comes and watches my shows. He's incredibly supportive. And he watched one before we knew one another. And that was kind of one of the maddest moments in my life because obviously he's a huge hero. And I don't think I spoke to him afterwards. That was sort of in another lifetime, really. But then since I've known him, yeah, it means a lot. You don't really, it shouldn't matter whether there's a critic or your best friend or a famous person, but there is something where you, there's something that does change where you're like, oh, okay, so we've got Steve Coogan watching.
46:11you really want it to go incredibly well because you really want him to say I don't know it's kind of mad but you want Steve Coogan to say I really enjoyed that yeah of course of course and then when did you find out that Steve Coogan was there like before yeah and someone is like Steve Coogan well definitely like obviously these days I would like know he's coming because I've sorted his team yeah yeah yeah it's not like the secret millionaire that's weird now you're wrong have you heard it and when someone's been there, you'll never guess who's there. Yeah, you get it with people who are famous that you love and respect.
46:47But when there's been chefs in... What about chefs, yeah. Chefs, you know, we've had people like Alan de Cassis, this worldwide chef, Paul Wood. But you just have to do what you do. Totally. You can't change it. You can't suddenly rewrite a menu or do something. You just have to believe what you're doing is right and hope they enjoy it. And, I mean, there's worse experience I've had when you've had nights that... And I don't know whether you've had that. Well, maybe you have right at the beginning when things haven't gone right and we've had nights like that and you just think, get me out of this hellhole.
47:15I just want this to be over with. I just want to go home. I've had radio shows like that where it just starts and you're like, this is not it today. This is not fun. You know, it's three hours long. And, you know, I sort of remember bits where you're, like a horrible thing where you wake up in the morning and you have this sort of grace period of about three seconds where you just wake up and then you just go, oh God. That did happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did have a service from her, yeah. No, we've all had those. Yeah. Well, we've got to come, we've got to come. I want to get this locked in before we leave each other today.
47:46You're right, yes, yes. Logan Berry, the tour. Oh yeah, we will do that. Yes. Yeah, yeah, 100%. More me and Ange, to be fair. Yeah. We always go, yeah, yeah, and then we forget. We'll do it. No, no, we'll do it. But it's one of the most demoralizing thing is chasing people to come to your show. Yeah. Come in. And we'll wear scarves, hats, coats. Oh yeah, I'm going to bring a character. Yeah, we'll bring a character. I'm going to bring a character. Tim, it is time for your fast food quiz. Tell us your favourite way to eat eggs. How I like them cooked. Yes. I guess it's scrambled eggs. What's your favourite sandwich filling?
48:23The tuna manis and cucumber. Which favourite form of potato? Mash. Your favourite herb. Which ones are herbs? Is that the same as spices? No, so rosemary, basil. Yeah, rosemary, basil. Yeah.
48:39Guns of the head. Time. Two bands, yeah. Time, time, time, time. Crisp. What's your favourite crisp? Ready salted walkers. Ooh. I heard that you like a hula hoop filled with grated cheese. Don't mind it. Don't mind it. In the bath. Trying to stop it. Close it. It's really ready salted walkers crisps. You know, you can swerve it a few times and you can just sort of shake up your life with like smoky bacon or something like that. But you come back to ready salted walkers crisps. The chef's choice. I'm at ready salted. Yeah. Yeah, love that. What's your favourite pub snack? Scotch egg. Oh, good choice.
49:15Do you have a favourite kitchen utensil out of interest? But it's all out of interest, isn't it?
49:22I'd be lost without my sieve.
49:27Oh,
49:34brilliant. Sunday roast. What's your favourite Sunday roast? Roast chicken. I love that. Roast chicken, but if possible, like little chipolatas or something with it. Oh, okay. Or pigs in blankets. Yeah, delicious. Do you have a favourite chocolate bar? Yeah, lime bar. Okay. And finally, what's your dish from your childhood? Favourite one. Favourite dish from my childhood? Oh, God, that is a good question. I think it is spaghetti bolognese. Oh, I love that. And I think there's, you know, these two kind of, you know, pillars of the society, where there's the spaghetti bolognese made by my mum at home and the spaghetti bolognese made by my dad when we go camping.
50:17Both great variations. Yes, yeah, I'm sure. Okay, Timkey, it is time for your end of the show question. And this is what rides on it, yeah? Yeah, this is what, yeah. If you answer this, that waitress goodie bag, Tim, is yours. Exactly, and I've already checked with the producer and I get it anyway. Unbelievable. There goes the Jeopardy. Yeah, thanks, Naxim. There goes the crazy Jeopardy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. By the way, thank you so much for coming on. My absolute pleasure. I'm going to put that in there because I'm taking that away. Oh, wait, I want that. I'll buy it, I'll buy it. Oh, you want this book?
50:57No, no, no, I'll buy it. No, I'll buy it. What a way to kick off 2026 with Tim. I'm laughing at it. Great, great. First go, set that bar sky high. This has been an incredibly enjoyable experience, I have to say. Thank you so much. Thank you, Tim. I feel something's coming. No, no, no. I was going to ask what Waitrose is. Waitrose? Waitrose. To win the Waitrose goodie bag, we want to take you back to your appearance on the first ever Taskmaster. Oh, wow. You won a challenge to throw a teabag into a mug from the furthest distance. Yeah. Congratulations. Today we have teabags, and Angela will be holding a mug aloft.
51:37We just need one teabag thrown into that mug and the goodie bag is yours. Okay, perfect. Oh, it's soaking the teabag. I'm not an idiot. Last time I checked. Oh, a wet teabag. Okay. Oh, no, that's one. How many goes do I have? As many as you want. We'll be here all day. Oh! There we go. Tinky. Tinky. That's brilliant. You're brilliant. The goodie bag is yours Tim. Thank you so much. That's a huge relief. That was my favourite sport I've ever watched. That was incredible. Incredible. Incredible. A round of applause to the brilliant Tim Key, everybody. Thank you for having me. Thank you. That was so fun.
52:24Thank you Tim. Love that. Love Tim Key. Fully obsessed with Tim Key. Oh, I thought he was brilliant. He was great, wasn't he? I'm not... Much like New Year, I'm going to say this is the date and you're on board. Yeah, we have to go and see him. Yes, yes. You have to go. He's so much fun. He was brilliant. I feel like I really, really laughed. I think we all need a Tim Key in January. We do. We needed that. You know, come on, because it's January, post-bluet. Yeah, we needed that. We needed that. Well, thank you, Tim. Fantastic first episode of the year. Love him, Tim. Now, strap in, Ange, because I have a story for you.
52:58Oh, crikey. This comes courtesy of a listener named Hannah who emailed us, dishawaitros.co.uk. By the way, if you ever want to email us. Hannah said, Hi, Andrew and Nick and all the brilliant Dish team. I just wanted to send a quick note as a big fan of the podcast. I'm from Belfast and was visiting London with my partner when I had a moment so surreal, I felt compelled to share it with you. We were wandering near Seven Dials in London when we noticed a bit of a commotion ahead. A black cab pulled over, a bike on its side, and a couple of escaped jars on the pavement. the kind that definitely looked they might have come from a waitress a very kind woman was helping another lady pick them up while the man from the cab looked absolutely mortified apologizing repeatedly it seemed he'd accidentally knocked the bike whilst opening the door I turned to my partner and I said I hope she's alright because we hadn't actually seen what had happened just the aftermath of a little topple and a few runaway groceries as we walked past the cyclist hopped back on thanked the woman who'd helped her and peddled off in front of us.
54:02And that's when it hit me. She turned her head slightly and I suddenly stopped in my tracks, pointed out like an awestruck tourist and blurted, completely dumbfounded, that's Angela Hartner. What? What, you were the... That was me knocked off my bike. You were knocked off your bike? Yeah, just before Christmas. No. Yeah. Were you okay? Yeah, I'm fine. I'm fine. Well, the jars okay. It was one jar. I think she's maybe getting a bit dished. Artistic license. Yeah, artistic license. One jar. Well, Hannah said, for the rest of the trip, and I mean the entire rest of our London trip, I kept saying, I can't believe I saw Angela Hartner on her bike after a topple.
54:44What are the chances? I listen to her and Nick all the time. I sincerely hope you're absolutely fine, Angela, and that the jars survived their brief moment of independence. A brief moment of independence. Anyway, made my day, week, and possibly my year not any potential Angela injury or the inconvenience, but the sighting of an absolute icon. Oh, bless her. Well, you're all right, what happened? Someone just opened the door. So I was coming down, seven dials, and I just had the bike serviced, and I was just coming down, and I had the cab, I don't know if the cab had indicated, but it certainly pulled over, but I didn't think anyone was stopping to get out, and I went in the inside, which really you shouldn't do, so it's probably my fault, and the door opened, so I smacked against the door, and then toppled.
55:25So just on this side, and I was fine, and the guy was really apologetic. Yeah, no one does it on purpose. There was a lovely lady who was helping me. But also, you know, something happens to you, you don't like fuss and I don't like fuss anyway. So I was like, I just wanted to get on my bike and size it. There's nothing injured, nothing broken. A couple of bruises and it was all fine. And I'm glad I made your day. I love that story. I love being like, oh my God, it's Angela bloody heart nuts. Well, thank you for listening. Thank you for listening. And thank you for your correspondence. Checking in on Ange as well.
55:56Yeah, thank you very much. If you do want to email us, you can dish at waitrose.co.uk is the way to do it. We spoke about it already a bit in this episode, but next week you're going to get to hear what happened when we had, yeah, cheese toastie with Helena Bonham Carter. So we'll see you then.
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From the publisher
Bangers and mash in action for our first poet.
Tim Key, an English poet, comedian, actor and screenwriter, joins Nick and Angela to fire up Dish in 2026. Last year was a huge one for Tim, made notable by the release of The Ballad Of Wallis Island, a film he stars in alongside best friend Tom Basden. The pair wrote the screenplay together, basing it on a short film they had made nearly 20 years earlier. It has amassed critical and popular acclaim, winning three British Independent Film Awards.
Alongside The Ballad... Tim released a book of poems, L.A. Baby!, and launched his latest stand-up show Loganberry, which returns for a new tour across the UK from February. He’s a long-time collaborator with former Dish guest Steve Coogan, appearing with Coogan in Saxondale and a number of Alan Partridge projects.
Tim loves the pub, loves fish and chips, and believes he has worked out how to get the most out of Dish through his list of likes and dislikes. With a Five Points beer in hand, he is served sticky sausage & apple braise with a mash that, as always, becomes quite the talking point. Waitrose’s wine experts have paired the meal with a Château Maris Organic Les Planels.
With poetry, laughter and stories about pub characters and eating in the bath, our first episode of the year is a bumper one to get us all going. And, in case you are wondering, Helena Bonham Carter is up next week for our final episode of Season 8.
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