Ep. 179 - UNSCALABLE! Marketing Tips NO ONE WILL TRY (But Should)! 🔕 I have NO IDEA HOW TO USE SNAP! ☎️ | Jay’s Scoop

30 Aug 2024 · 12 min

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Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

Episode Title

Ep. 179 - UNSCALABLE! Marketing Tips NO ONE WILL TRY (But Should)! 🔕 I have NO IDEA HOW TO USE SNAP! ☎️

Episode Description In this episode, host Jay Schwedelson explores the value of unscalable marketing tactics, emphasizing the importance of personal connections in a landscape increasingly overwhelmed by automation and AI-generated content. He shares his innovative "90-day handholding" strategy that focuses on fostering relationships with clients and prospects.

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Key Concepts Discussed

  1. Unscalable Tactics in Marketing
  2. Importance: Unscalable tactics help differentiate businesses in a highly automated marketing environment.
  3. Counteracting Automation: Over-reliance on automation can strip marketing efforts of a personal touch.
  1. The "90-Day Handholding" Strategy
  2. Overview: Every 90 days, Jay focuses on nurturing 30 contacts (prospects or current clients) by sharing valuable content without a sales agenda.
  3. Execution:
  4. No direct selling or landing pages.
  5. Emailing interesting insights, statistics, or recommendations.
  1. Building Human Connections
  2. Transformative Growth: Personal connections foster significant business growth through deeper customer engagement.
  3. Examples of Tactics:
  4. Sending personalized video messages.
  5. Curating handpicked content for specific recipients.
  6. Sending handwritten birthday notes to clients.
  1. Personal Anecdotes
  2. Jay shares his texting habits and maintains Snapchat streaks with his children, emphasizing the need for connectivity in both personal and professional realms.

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Best Moments of the Episode

  • (00:40) Discussion on the significance of unscalable tactics.
  • (01:20) Critique of over-automation and loss of personal touch.
  • (02:15) Explanation of the "90-day handholding" approach.
  • (04:00) Connection between unscalable tactics and business growth.
  • (05:43) Real-life examples of personalized marketing efforts.
  • (06:54) The impact of handwritten letters on client relationships.
  • (08:42) Personal story about maintaining family bonds through Snapchat.

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Conclusion Jay Schwedelson emphasizes that while many marketers gravitate towards scalable solutions, embracing unscalable tactics can lead to meaningful connections and substantial business growth. Through strategies like the "90-day handholding," personalized outreach, and handwritten communications, marketers can create lasting impressions that differentiate them in a crowded marketplace.

Call to Action

  • Subscribe to the podcast for more actionable marketing insights and strategies.
  • Check out the sponsor, Marigold, for relationship marketing solutions aimed at customer loyalty.

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Additional Notes

  • Personal touch in marketing is positioned as crucial in a landscape dominated by generic AI-generated content.
  • Maintaining connections through various channels (like Snapchat) can enhance both personal and professional relationships.
  • Listeners are encouraged to implement unscalable tactics to see transformative results in their marketing endeavors.

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0:08Welcome to Do This Not That, the podcast for marketers. You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately. You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share tactics, quick wins, and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos that is our everyday. I'm Jay Schwetelson. Let's do this, not that.

0:40We are back for Do This, Not That, presented by Marigold. And usually on this podcast, I just fire off some quick stats to make an instant impact in your marketing. But I wanted to do something a little bit different today and share a quick strategy that may even have a bigger impact on your company's growth overall. And that is unscalable tactics. So often people, marketers, they avoid doing certain things because it's not scalable. It's not something they're able to keep doing. It is hard to do. And what do we all try to do with our marketing and all of our outreach? We automate things, right?

1:22We do as much automation as possible because we want to reach as many people as possible. And when you do unscalable things, you can't do that. It's hard. But you know what? Those are the things, the unscalable things that if you do them, and I'm going to show you specific ones that I do and ones that work, they can transform your business. It doesn't matter if you're a consumer brand, a business brand. It doesn't matter if you're a small company, a massive company. We live in this world of AI garbage, and the AI garbage is going to become an AI garbage dump over the next year or so. It's going to get worse and worse and worse.

1:58And it's just going to be all this generic stuff. So what's going to stand out is the humanity of everything. So I want to share some unscalable tactics, things that are impossible to do at scale, that are impossible to keep going, but that you should and that work. All right. So one thing that I do, and I call it the 90-day handholding. Okay. So what I do is every 90 days, I take about 30 contacts, prospects, current customers, and I do my best to send those 30 contacts super useful content. The way I position the communications and what I email out is that I'm selling them nothing. I'm asking them to register for nothing.

2:49I'm not sending them even to a landing page of any kind. I am trying to share with them interesting things that I am seeing, and it's literally me writing the email saying, hey, this is really cool. I thought you might find this interesting. Or I just saw this stat. Isn't this wild? Or here's this person I'm following on social. I think they're doing a great job. You should check them out as well. And in my demand gen agency that I run, Alchemedia, our clients are usually the director level or vice presidents of marketing. So I try to share content or information or anything that I think will be useful for them.

3:28And then over this 90 day period where I am focused on these 30 contacts, you know, not a day goes by that I don't spend some energy on these 30 contacts. Towards the end of it, I may hit them up and say, hey, let's do a Zoom. Let's do a Zoom for no reason other than let's just connect. I want to hear what's going on in your world, what's on your mind, what you think about the trends in the industry. I am not reaching out to them to say, buy something from me. Subscribe to something from me. Nothing like that. I cannot tell you how transformative this is. You do 30 contacts every nine days. You can do this.

4:08This is not that hard. You're like, wait, but I don't have time for this. I'm so busy. Who are you kidding? okay we all are busy i got a lot going on i do okay but this is how you really can grow and by the way you meet cool people you interact with them you learn from them and yeah you probably will grow your business significantly now you're saying yourself yeah i run a big direct to consumer brand this doesn't make any sense for me i don't need a handful of you know b2b uh contacts or something like that. And that's where people just don't understand what it means to do unscalable things. I don't care if you're Kim Kardashian and you're running skims.

4:52Okay. If Kim Kardashian takes a 200 new customers, brand new customers to skims or 200 customers that buy every time they knew a new drop of a new outfit or something. And she sends them an email saying, I'm so excited to have you on board as a customer. This is really me emailing you. And I just want to hear your feedback on it. I want to hear what you think about it. And by the way, we have some new cool stuff coming out and we just love to be connected. I promise you that I don't care how big your company is, that feedback that you get, that connection that you make with your customers, big or small, it will transform the way that you think about your brand, the way that you think about your marketing.

5:32You will meet the important people that you should know. This is a win. Now, there are other ways that you could do this without this 90-day hand-holding thing that I'm talking about. You can send people personalized video messages, right? That's huge on LinkedIn. That works so well, not just on LinkedIn, but elsewhere. Personalized video messages, not these ones that you're creating with some sort of tool that are automated, but straight up videos that you're making and send that to somebody. Okay. Um, you could do handpicked content. You handpick content. You say, who's this perfect for? I'm going to send to these five people.

6:06And every single week you do handpicked content and you send it to them. birthdays. I'm not talking about these automated birthday things where you send out this automated trigger birthday announcement. That's all fine. But I will tell you, there are a handful of people in my career that have put my birthday on their calendar. And every time my birthday hits, it doesn't matter if I even talk to them in a year, they send me a note, Jay, how you doing? How's life? And it's not automated. It's them. And they'll say, here's what I'm up to. I hope you're doing well, if your family's doing well. And I could, these people in my mind, I could think of the people right now and they matter to me because they take the time to do that.

6:44Put all, put hundreds of people into your calendar right now, all their birthdays, ask people for their birthdays. I am telling you, sending people birthday notes, it matters. Handwritten letters. Yeah, I know it's out of control and ridiculous. A little short handwritten letter, it goes so far with people. It really, really does. So this idea of doing unscalable things, I don't know if there's anything that I've done in my business, any tactic that I've done in my business in the last 30 years that has had more of an impact than doing these unscalable things, because that is how you connect with other people.

7:26So I strongly encourage you. I know this is a little different than my normal, you know, put this in the subject line and you get this open rate, but you know what strategies and sharing and, and what's working this, this is what it's all about. Anyway, let me know you think about all this and try it out. So before we get to since you didn't ask, which is the ridiculous portion of this crazy podcast, I want to let you know that this podcast is sponsored by Marigold and Marigold is a great example of hand-holding, okay? They're my email sending platform. They are. And listen, they didn't tell me to say this, but this is the truth.

8:01They've done a great job of me feeling connected to them, right? They're not just a vendor to us. They're actually asking how we're doing, how's our marketing programs going, what's your roadmap look like? That is what you want from your platforms. Your Martech stack should not just be a bunch of software and applications that you're paying monthly fees for. If you're not thrilled with your email sending platform, If you don't feel about your platform the way I feel about my platform, you got to check Marigold out at meetmarigold.com for email programs, loyalty programs, retention marketing programs, you name it.

8:35Meetmarigold.com, small, medium, and large-sized businesses, business consumer. Check them out. Great, great company. All right. Let's get into since you didn't ask. Handholding. That's the topic of the day, handholding, right? I was just thinking about this. I am the worst texter of all time. Are you a good texter? I'm not exaggerating. I have over 1700 unread texts on my phone. I can't do it. It's such, I don't know what's wrong with me. It's unbelievable how bad of a texter I am. I have a text chain with my group of friends from college and all day long, they're sending the stupidest things.

9:13And right now, people have different political opinions in this text chain. So somebody will send one thing about something political and then somebody will send their opinion on it and then within like 30 seconds of these texts flying it will get right into yeah but when you were in college um you dated so and so and that was a disaster you're a loser right and it devolves into this thing it will be like hey dude you need to go to the gym you look terrible like it goes from one type of conversation into the meanest stuff you could possibly imagine. And by the time I look at my phone, at the end of the day, I'm like, what is this nonsense going on?

9:53And then, so in my family, me and my wife and my two teenage kids, they're 17 and 18, we have a snap chain. And the reason we do it on snap is that if I text my kids, they will not reply. They just will not see it. But if we snap, then we all reply all this different type of stuff. So I started a streak with each one of my kids. And you're like, what? Yeah. For those of you who don't know, on Snap, if you send somebody a picture three days in a row and they send you a picture three days in a row, then you have a Snap streak with them and you get a little thing that says you have a streak. So I have a streak with both of my kids that are like 400 days long.

10:30I'm very proud of this streak. But I did not know that to keep the streak alive, you can't miss a day. I thought, because I'm a big idiot that you need to send a picture of your face on the snap streak that's the only way it's going to keep it alive so every day in the morning i wake up and i take a picture of my face and i look horrible i look horrendous every single day for like four like hundreds of days another one of my kids loop me in that you don't have to do that you don't have to send a picture of your face because i didn't know and so they keep saving the picture of my face every day and i didn't know that that was like something that people don't do either but they've saved this whole album of me looking terrible um and now they just whenever they want to they send pictures to like our entire family chain of me looking terrible i don't know why i'm sharing this all i know is um i'm horrendous at snap uh i'm horrendous at texting and i don't know what's going on listen i hope that everybody has a great day.

11:32I hope you leave this a review. I hope you email me and tell me if this was useful or not. Drop me a DM on LinkedIn. I don't know. I don't know what I just talked about, but I appreciate you all. You rock. Thanks for being here. Later. You did it. You made it to the end. Nice. But the party's not over. Subscribe to make sure you get the latest episode each week for more actionable tips and a little chaos from today's top marketers. and hook us up with a five-star review if this wasn't the worst podcast of all time. Lastly, if you want access to the best virtual marketing events that are also 100 % free, visit guruevents.com so you can hear from the world's top marketers like Damon John, Martha Stewart, and me.

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From the publisher

In this episode, host Jay Schwedelson dives into the transformative power of unscalable marketing tactics. He shares his personal "90-day handholding" strategy, which focuses on building human connections in an era increasingly dominated by automation and AI-generated content.

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Best Moments:


(00:40) Unscalable tactics and their importance in standing out in a highly automated marketing landscape


(01:20) The over-reliance on automation and AI can lead to a loss of personal touch in marketing efforts


(02:15) Jay explains his "90-day handholding" approach, a personalized strategy designed to nurture relationships and guide clients through the early stages of engagement


(04:00) How these unscalable tactics can lead to significant business growth by fostering deeper connections with customers


(05:43) Examples include sending personalized video messages, curating handpicked content for specific clients, and even sending birthday notes to enhance customer relationships


(06:54) The impact of handwritten letters in creating memorable, personal connections with clients


(08:42) Jay shares a personal anecdote about his texting habits and maintaining Snapchat streaks with his children, showcasing the importance of staying connected in both personal and professional life


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