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Podcast Title
Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson
Episode Title
Ep. 259 - What's Up THIS WEEK: 🟡REAL TikTok Next Steps! 🪴Grow Your Email List NOW! HUGE Instagram Change!
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Episode Description
In this episode, host Jay Schwedelson discusses the latest marketing developments including the TikTok ban situation, changes to Instagram’s video policies, and the importance of building email lists for marketers. He also touches on recent changes in the food industry and shares a personal anecdote about his fandom for *The Bachelor* franchise.
Key Highlights
- TikTok Ban Update (00:55)
- Current status: TikTok is not banned but unavailable in app stores.
- No updates or security patches will be made, which may lead to operational issues.
- Perplexity has bid to partner with TikTok’s parent company, ByteDance.
- Meta’s Response (01:49)
- In light of the TikTok situation, Meta has extended Instagram Reels from a 90-second limit to three minutes.
- This shift indicates a potential increase in business to business (B2B) content on Instagram.
- Growing Email Lists (04:46)
- Emphasizes the critical need for marketers to grow their email lists as a safeguard against social media dependency.
- January and February are peak months for list-related content, which has a 25% higher download rate during this period.
- Suggestions for content include list-based resources relevant to various industries.
- FDA Changes in Food Industry (06:38)
- Announcement regarding the ban of red food dye (Red 3) and its impact on various food products.
- Examples of affected brands include Del Monte and Dunkin' Donuts.
- Personal Anecdote about *The Bachelor* (08:26)
- Jay humorously reflects on his commitment to watching the entirety of *The Bachelor* franchise, calculating the time spent as approximately 75,840 minutes or 52.7 days.
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Actionable Takeaways
- For TikTok and Social Media Marketers:
- Stay alert for updates regarding TikTok as its status may affect your marketing strategies.
- Explore Instagram Reels as a new avenue for longer-form content to engage your audience.
- For All Marketers:
- Prioritize building and nurturing your email list to ensure direct engagement with your audience.
- Create and promote list-related content during peak months to optimize engagement and conversion rates.
- On Food Brands:
- Stay informed about regulatory changes like the FDA's ban on certain food dyes and adapt your marketing strategies accordingly.
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Conclusion
- This episode provides marketers with critical insights into current platform dynamics and actionable strategies for email list growth and content development. Jay's engaging commentary bridges the gap between marketing insights and pop culture, making it both informative and entertaining.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:08Welcome to Do This Not That, the podcast for marketers. You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately. You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share tactics, quick wins, and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos that is our everyday. I'm Jay Schwetelson. Let's do this, not that.
0:40We are back for what's up this week from the Do This, Not That podcast. presented by marigold this is our short episode we're breakdown what's going on this week in business and marketing and life and then we still have our ask us anything later in the week and our big tips episode at the end of the week so what's going on this week well unfortunately we have to talk about the nonsense which was and is the tick tock ban i never thought tick tock was actually going to fully get banned because there's just too many governments and companies and people and things that want to keep it going for so many different reasons.
1:13Everyone has their reason. So it's not going anywhere, but there are some things that we should be doing as marketers and as business people related to all this TikTok nonsense. But before we get to that, what's the current status of it all? Well, TikTok is not banned, but it's also not in the app stores, right? And no updates as of right now, meaning like security patches and things like that are going to be pushed to your TikTok app. So the clock is actually ticking on something to get done because the app is going to start to run into some serious issues over the coming weeks if something doesn't get done.
1:49Now, Perplexity has put in an official bid, according to CNBC, to partner with TikTok, not to fully buy it. Now, if you don't know Perplexity, it's one of my favorite free AI tools. It's incredible. It's like ChatGPT, but with a lot better ability to share the sources of their data. So you should check out perplexity.ai just for AI purposes. But Perplexity submitted a proposal to TikTok's parent company, ByteDance, where they want to basically partner and take some portion ownership of TikTok. I don't think Perplexity is going to be the one that winds up doing it. I still believe it's going to be Oracle because they have the money, They have the resources and it's a decent alignment because they already partner on stuff.
2:36But what else is going on related to all the TikTok nonsense is that all the other platforms are jumping through hoops right now trying to gain the mind share of people that were nervous about TikTok going away. And the number one company doing that, of course, is Meta, right? So Meta owns Facebook, they own WhatsApp, and they own Instagram. So immediately on the same day that TikTok gets banned, what does Meta announce? They announced that on Instagram Reels, they're now allowing people when they post for their Reels, instead of it being capped at 90 seconds, which is what it has been forever, right?
3:15That you can't post any Instagram Reel longer than 90 seconds. They're now allowing you to post Instagram Reels that are as long as three minutes long. This is actually a big deal. And this is what Instagram said themselves. They said, starting today, you can upload reels to Instagram up to three minutes long. Now, historically, it's only been 90 seconds. And that's because we want to focus Instagram on short video, not long form video. But we've heard a lot of feedback from a lot of you creators out there. And 90 seconds is just far too short. So what's interesting about this? Two things. Number one, I think this is going to cause a rush of business to business marketers to start posting more on Instagram.
3:54because the three-minute reels allow you to really get across some formation of intelligent thought. So I think you're going to see more business-to-business reels on Instagram. The funniest part, though, and this is why you can't believe anything any platform ever says about anything, literally just in the last 60 days, Instagram came out and they said videos that are longer than 90 seconds are bad for their algorithm and for performance. That is literally what they said. Okay, why? Because they were trying to say, no, we're different. Instagram's different. We do short form video. But now, just a few months later, they're like, you know what?
4:35Long form video is where it's at. That is where you need to be. So, I mean, nobody cares. Everyone just says whatever they want to say. Nothing matters. It's all totally ridiculous. And really, what marketers need to be thinking about as it relates to the TikTok ban is one very simple thing. You need to grow your email list. I'm not just saying that because I like email. It's the difference, as we all know, between this idea of rented land, which is all the social media platforms. At any moment, they change the algorithm, they get banned, things happen, all your followers are gone. That's not cool.
5:08You don't own those engagements. You don't own those followers. But your email list is something you own. That is your owned land, not your rented land. And the thing that you need to be thinking about right now is that in January and February specifically, these are the top months. This is the top 60-day period for list-related content. That is content that is a list of some kind. We see list-related content. According to World Data Research, the download rate for business and consumer marketers that promote list-related content is 25 % higher in January and February than any other 60-day period of the year.
5:43And this is the perfect content that you want to be aggressively promoting on social media, whether you're a business marketer or a consumer marketer, to get people off social and onto your list. Things like, let's say you're a health marketer, you know, the five morning rituals to boost your energy all day, the top seven health hacks you'll wish you knew sooner. Or maybe you have a CRM platform and it's the top eight CRM secrets that will transform your business or the seven game-changing tricks to automate your customer follow-ups. It doesn't matter. you want to take these lists these very simple lists that you can create you already have the content you already have the information you make them super easy super digestible it's a one page let's say pdf format whatever it is you put those social posts out there go here to download it dm me i'll send you the link to download it get people onto your lists enough of this social media getting banned you losing all your followers nonsense all right let's talk about stupid stuff because you know I love stupid stuff.
6:42Well, this isn't really stupid, but I thought it was kind of gross. I saw that a host of food brands were told by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration this week that they need to reformulate their products because a decision was announced to ban the artificial food dye Red 3. Red 3 is the food dye that makes everything red. And these food brands have, I think, a two-year window We have to reformulate their products to get rid of the food dye because I guess the food dye is found to cause you all sorts of health issues and whatever. So I saw a list of the foods that need to be reformulated. Now, some of them make sense, right?
7:21Like I saw Yahoo, which I haven't drank in a long time. Yahoo's strawberry drink needs to be reformulated. Okay, that's fine. That didn't feel like the most natural thing to drink anyway. That makes sense. toll house's funfetti cookie dough was told they need to uh reformulate their thing because they use red three dye again anything named funfetti i didn't think was falling off a tree right so uh that makes sense but the thing that kind of grossed me out was first that del monte okay they have to reformulate their fruit cups what their fruit cups why are we using red dye three or whatever in our fruit cups.
8:02That's gross. And the one that totally grossed me out, like, what are we talking about? Is that a spokesperson from Dunkin' Donuts confirmed that some of its vegetarian bacon products contain the dye. So wait a minute, Dunkin' Donuts is selling vegetarian bacon and they're using food dye to make it look like bacon. Straight up gross, not eating that now in the most useless news of all time on Monday okay this coming Monday season 29 of the bachelor comes out fired up for this okay I am not kidding this show is my jam so I went on chat GPT and I found something very very depressing which I have to share so I asked chat GPT this question because it's 100 % true I said to chat GPT hey I've watched every season of The Bachelor, The Bachelorette, The Bachelor in Paradise, Golden Bachelor, and The Golden Bachelorette.
9:02Approximately how many minutes of my life have I spent watching this series if I've never missed any of it? And by the way, I've never missed any of it. So I wanted to know how big of a loser am I? And it told me this, which is super sad. you've spent approximately 75 ,840 minutes or the equivalent of 52.7 full days watching the bachelor franchise wow that is both amazing horrifying i you want to know my real emotion is hearing that i'm proud what i don't know why but that's i get a sense of pride when i know that 53 days of my life I've been spent watching The Bachelor because I know I've spent 53 days doing stuff I really don't like doing.
9:48So at least I did something I like doing. Anyway, wow, we've really talked about some very important things. You all are awesome. Check out certifiedguru.com. It is our free email certification program. Our wait list finally opens up on January 28th, and then it shuts again a few days later. If you want to get certified in email marketing, certifiedguru.com, 100 % free. Check it out. Thanks for being here and leave this thing a review. Come on. It helps me out a lot. Do me a solid. All right, later. You did it. You made it to the end. Nice. But the party's not over. Subscribe to make sure you get the latest episode each week for more actionable tips and a little chaos from today's top marketers.
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From the publisher
In this episode of Do This, Not That, host Jay Schwedelson dives into the latest developments in the TikTok ban situation, Instagram’s video length policy updates, and why growing email lists is crucial for marketers. Jay also shares insights on food industry changes and a personal anecdote about his love for The Bachelor franchise.
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Best Moments:
(00:55) Update on the TikTok ban situation and its current status
(01:49) Meta’s response to the TikTok ban, including changes to Instagram Reels
(04:46) The importance of growing email lists for marketers
(05:23) List-related content performance in January and February
(06:38) FDA's ban on red food dye 3 and its impact on food brands
(08:26) Personal anecdote about time spent watching The Bachelor franchise
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