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Podcast Summary: Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson
Episode Details Episode Title: Ep. 283 - What's Up THIS WEEK: Impact of EXTERNAL Links in Posts! Grey’s Anatomy and McDreamy? Host: Jay Schwedelson Description: In this episode, Jay Schwedelson discusses recent trends in social media marketing, changes in affiliate marketing, and the impact of daylight savings time on email open rates. He also shares personal anecdotes and entertainment updates.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Social Media Engagement Insights
- Meta's Findings:
- External Links Impact:
- Statistics: 97.9% of Facebook post views do not involve external links. Only 2% of views are associated with posts containing external links.
- Engagement on LinkedIn: Posts without external links receive six times more reach than those with links.
- Actionable Takeaway: Focus on boosting posts as organic reach for posts with external links is declining. Budget for paid promotions on social media.
- Affiliate Marketing Changes
- Google's New Rules:
- Changes to how product review sites appear in search results.
- Google is discounting information from pay-to-play review platforms.
- Advice: If affiliate marketing is a core strategy, explore alternative traffic avenues due to these new restrictions.
- Daylight Savings Time Effects
- Email Open Rates:
- A 15% decrease in email open rates is expected for the three days following the switch to daylight savings time, particularly for emails sent between 6 a.m. and 9 a.m.
- Entertainment Segment
- Grey’s Anatomy:
- Discussion of the show's 21st season premiere.
- Historical context: The show started in 2005, before major technological advancements (e.g., the iPhone).
- Personal Anecdote:
- Jay shares a humorous reflection about being compared to Patrick Dempsey and how cosmetic changes impacted that perception.
- Movie Recommendation
- Runaway Jury:
- Jay highly recommends this film as a must-watch.
- Event Promotion
- Eventastic Virtual Event:
- Promotion of an upcoming free virtual event featuring top speakers, including Andy Cohen.
- Encouragement to register quickly due to limited spots.
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Conclusion Jay Schwedelson offers a blend of actionable marketing advice, personal stories, and engaging entertainment updates. The episode emphasizes the importance of adapting to social media changes, understanding affiliate marketing dynamics, and considering external factors like daylight savings when planning marketing strategies.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:08Welcome to Do This Not That, the podcast for marketers. You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately. You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share tactics, quick wins, and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos that is our everyday. I'm Jay Schwetelson. Let's do this, not that.
0:40we are back for what's up this week from the do this not that podcast presented by marigold this is our short episode or breakdown what's going on this week in business and marketing life and then we still have our short ask us anything later in the week in our big tips episode at the end of the week so what do we got what's going on this week well i don't know if you saw this but meta just released data on what posts get engagement on their platforms. And of course, Meta owns Instagram and Facebook and all this stuff. And they released one stat that's kind of mind-blowing that also leads into impacts on other platforms.
1:13So what is it? So according to Meta, 97.9 % of the views of Facebook posts in the past quarter, okay, do not include links to a source outside of Facebook itself. What does that mean? That means if you post something on Facebook with an external link, it is going nowhere because only 2 % of the views of all the views on Facebook are those posts that have external links. They are completely deprioritizing external links. And then we see this across every platform. So Hootsuite released data about LinkedIn, right? Posts without external links on LinkedIn, without external links receives six times more reach than posts with external links on LinkedIn.
2:05So this is what every platform is doing. They're trying to get you to, number one, stay on their platforms, obviously. But the other thing that they're doing, which by the way, I do this a lot, is that they want you to boost your posts. This idea of organic traffic from posts that you're putting out there to links that you're putting in a post without any paid boosting of that post, it's really a dying thing. Organic referring traffic is a dying thing. So you really want to consider baking into all of your budgets when you're posting on social media platforms and you want to promote something on your website, on a landing page, somewhere else with an external link, you need to be thinking about boosting those posts.
2:47And boosting basically means that you're going to pay to have that post get circulated. I will tell you the cost for boosting on the platforms is very reasonable as compared to other ad placements and other programs, other sites and publishers, all this stuff. And you may go, I don't want to do that. That shouldn't be the case. Well, it's their rules, not yours. And it works. So don't just think you're going to be able to post stuff with external links and it's going to work because it's just absolutely not going to work. Another thing that there's been a major shakeup of this week is affiliate marketing.
3:19It took a major hit this week. So there was a big article in the Wall Street Journalist came out about how Google has changed its rules around how product review sites appear in its search engine. So Google's new search rules basically are completely discounting information from sites like CNN underscore or Forbes vetted. There's a laundry list of these pay-to-play platforms where on these platforms there'd be reviews but the reviews would be written by freelancers who are paid right and when people are clicking on them and buying stuff they would be getting affiliate money but google is now banning or trying to ban all of these different types of pay-to-play reviews shifting more towards the organic reviews obviously google reviews is a big part of that and so the world of affiliate marketing i think more and more affiliate marketing is going to have a hard time with the way that these ecosystems are heading.
4:18So if affiliate marketing is your core go-to-market strategy, I think you really need to consider some other avenues of traffic because it's going to become more and more difficult. Another thing that I mentioned the other day, I just want to bring it to light again. Oh, that's a pun because I'm talking about daylight savings time. I think people sleep on this. Daylight savings time is coming up in a few days, coming up this weekend. And the days following daylight saving time, everybody is miserable because everyone's a little tired because we lose an hour of sleep. So the three days following daylight savings time, especially for email, you'll see about a 15 % lower open rate percentage of people opening up emails for those emails delivered between 6 a.m.
5:02to 9 a.m. for that Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday following this weekend. So it's just something to think about if you are promoting anything, whether it's consumer or business, those three days following, because it will have an impact. I know how silly this sounds, but it will have an impact. Speaking of silly, let's talk about completely useless information. This week, okay, Grey's Anatomy, their 21st season has their mid-season premiere. That is out of control, 21st season. And I used to watch Grey's Anatomy. I cannot believe they're still pumping out new episodes. Do you know when they started back in 2005, Facebook was barely even on the radar, barely the thing.
5:45Friends, the show had just ended. iPhones didn't exist when this show started. Okay, that is weird. I mean, Taylor Swift had not released an album yet. That is how long this thing has been around. And I have a very sad connection to Grey's Anatomy. Sad for me, this is so random. So of course, there's McDreamy, right? Patrick Dempsey used to be on the show and he's the hot doctor guy that they all called McDreamy. And the sad part for me is that when I was a kid, there was a movie called Can't Buy Me Love with Patrick Dempsey. And it was pretty popular movie. And it was cool because, you know, everyone gets, oh, you know what celebrity you look like?
6:25And I would get, I look like Patrick Dempsey from Can't Buy Me Love. And this was cool because whatever. And then Patrick Dempsey, maybe people probably realize this. He went ahead and he got a nose job. Okay. He got a nose job and then he became hot. Okay. Ever since he got a nose job, not once in my life have I been told that I look like Patrick Dempsey. It like stopped on a dime. I was like, this is terrible. The one celebrity I look like had facial surgery and now I don't look like him. Now everybody thinks he's hot. Oh, whatever. What are you going to do? I also saw this, by the way, on Netflix.
7:05They just added Runaway Jury, which is an old movie that has Gene Hackman in it. Two things. Number one, if you've never seen Runaway Jury, and a lot of times people are like, oh, who cares? It's an older movie. This is one of the best movies. It is so good. So you want to watch Runaway Jury, I do feel very bad about Gene Hackman passing away. And the whole thing about how he passed away, I'm not sure everybody saw this on the news. What's going on? His dog passed away. His wife passed away. The whole thing is beyond weird. I don't even know what happened in there, but I feel bad. But at least he got to 95.
7:41So that's good. So check out Runaway Jury. And yeah, Eventastic. This is our large free virtual event. Eventastic is spelled the word event and thenastic. So it's 1t.com. It is coming up. We only have a few virtual seats left. If you put on webinars, in-person events, virtual events, if you want to learn about public speaking, this two-day event is going to be wild. We have Andy Cohen from Bravo speaking. You want to get registered at eventastic.com. It is free. We are running out of spots. Hope to see you there. Thanks for checking this out. Later. You did it. You made it to the end. Nice. But the party's not over.
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From the publisher
In this episode of Do This, Not That, host Jay Schwedelson dives into recent social media marketing trends, changes in affiliate marketing, and how daylight savings time can affect email open rates. He also drops some fun personal anecdotes—including a memorable moment with Patrick Dempsey—and wraps up with entertainment updates you won’t want to miss.
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Best Moments:
(00:56) Meta’s data on Facebook post engagement and external links
(01:48) LinkedIn post engagement statistics
(02:45) The importance of boosting posts on social media platforms
(03:19) Changes in Google’s rules affecting affiliate marketing
(04:33) Impact of daylight savings time on email open rates
(05:23) Grey’s Anatomy’s 21st season premiere
(06:31) Jay’s personal anecdote about Patrick Dempsey
(07:05) Recommendation to watch Runaway Jury on Netflix
(07:46) Promotion of the upcoming Eventastic virtual event
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