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Podcast Summary: Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson
Episode Title
INSTANT Engagement Boost by Using ‘Seasonal Jump’. It’s all about SUMMER and Q3! 😬 Annnnd my Birthday Plans!! Ask Us ANYTHING❓| Ep. 300
Podcast Overview The podcast "Do This, NOT That" hosted by Jay Schwedelson provides actionable marketing insights and strategies. It emphasizes improving marketing performance through understanding consumer behavior and effective decision-making.
Key Topics Discussed
- Seasonal Jump Marketing:
- Jay introduces the concept of "seasonal jump" marketing, which encourages marketers to focus on future seasons rather than the current one. For example, promoting summer products while still in spring.
- Key Data:
- Seasonal jump strategies yield 34% more engagement compared to in-season marketing.
- Emails that reference future dates achieve a 22% higher open rate.
- Practical Examples:
- Use subject lines that mention upcoming months or seasons to pique interest. For instance:
- "Your summer starter pack is here!" or "Sneak peek: What's coming this May?"
- Audience Engagement:
- Jay includes a segment where he answers listener questions, blending marketing insights with personal anecdotes.
Best Moments
- Marketing Inquiry (01:51):
- A listener, Emma, inquires about a poorly performing spring cleaning campaign. Jay advises utilizing seasonal jump tactics to redirect focus toward summer.
- Engagement Data (02:21):
- Highlighted statistics emphasize the power of future-oriented marketing strategies.
- Personal Anecdotes (05:19):
- Jay shares his thoughts on celebrating birthdays, highlighting his preference to avoid traditional birthday celebrations, including public singing.
- Podcast Rankings (08:29):
- Acknowledgment of the podcast's ranking as the third best in the marketing category nationally.
- Guru Conference Promotion (08:37):
- Announcement of the Guru Conference, a free virtual email marketing event scheduled for November.
Actionable Tips
- Implement Seasonal Jump:
- Shift marketing focus from current seasons to upcoming ones to enhance consumer engagement.
- Utilize Future Dates in Communication:
- Begin discussing future products and events to generate excitement and increase open rates in marketing emails.
- Avoid Overly Personal Social Media Gestures:
- Jay critiques the trend of birthday acknowledgment posts on social media as being unnecessary and potentially embarrassing.
Conclusion Jay Schwedelson emphasizes the importance of adjusting marketing strategies to align with future consumer interests. The episode blends practical marketing advice with personal reflections, making it both informative and relatable.
Additional Resources
- Promotion for Free Virtual Events:
- Listeners are encouraged to explore free marketing events at:
- [Guru Conference](https://guruconference.com)
- [Eventastic](https://eventastic.com)
- [Delivered Conference](https://deliveredconference.com)
Final Notes
- Encourage listeners to leave reviews and subscribe for more marketing insights. Jay expresses gratitude for audience support and highlights the podcast's success in rankings.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:08Welcome to Do This Not That, the podcast for marketers. You'll walk away from each episode with actionable tips you can test immediately. You'll hear from the best minds in marketing who will share tactics, quick wins, and pitfalls to avoid. We'll also dig into life, pop culture, and the chaos that is our everyday. I'm Jay Schwetelson. Let's do this, not that.
0:39we are back for ask us anything from the do this not that podcast presented by marigold this is our short episode we're all week long we get in questions we get in work questions we get in ridiculous questions we try to tackle one of each and if you want to submit a question well you would be very cool you go to jay swettleson.com there's a button that says podcast another one that says ask us anything we absolutely love getting your questions so let's do it let's jump into it what we got we got a question from we're gonna do the work one first we got a question from emma from gilroy california oh i know what that is that is the garlic capital of the world i only know that because i recently went to a garlic festival that was near where i lived and it was disgusting and they talked about gilroy um it was disgusting because first of all i don't even like garlic that much second of all everybody there was disgusting um i was talking to this one dude who was eating garlic ice cream, which should not exist.
1:32And it was as if this guy brushed his teeth with aioli. Like I was like, get away from it. You're gross. And it was really hot out because I'm in Florida and everyone's sweating and they're sweating garlic. The whole thing was unacceptable. So I will never be going back. I mean, they had things like garlic, cotton candy. What are we doing? Stop it. Anyway, what is your question, Emma? Jay, my team just launched a spring cleaning marketing campaign and it is not doing well. We had high hopes for this and just don't understand. Help. Well, Emma, here's the deal. A lot of marketers make the mistake of like, oh, it's now spring.
2:07Let's do marketing campaigns about spring, whether you're a business marketer or a consumer marketer. But believe it or not, that's not where our minds are. And there's a very easy tactic everybody should try that absolutely crushes it. And it's all about looking ahead. So using seasonal language, but as a jump ahead is what actually works. So when you're at the start of spring or in spring, you want to be talking about summer and it does so incredibly well. So the seasonal jump, and that's what it's called, seasonal jump. And this is from Klaviyo. Seasonal jump content gets a 34 % more engagement than when you are marketing in-season stuff.
2:47All right, and from subjectline.com, if you mention the future season instead of the current season in your subject line, it boosts open rates by over 26%. So what you wanna be thinking about right now is not talking about spring. You wanna be talking about summer. So you could have campaigns and subject lines and social posts that say things like, your summer starter pack is here, and you do that now. You do that in April or your Q3 toolkit is ready. You're not talking about Q2. Forget about Q2. People are preparing for Q3. Or you can even do things like only our VIP list gets early dibs on our summer drops.
3:29We don't care about what's going on right now. We care about what's going to be happening soon. We care about Q3. We care about summer. And those are the tactics that works. And that's why your spring cleaning thing didn't really crush it. Now, there's other things you could do with future dates that work so well that I think marketers don't realize. So this one's kind of cool. Let me share this data. Emails mentioning future dates have a 22 % higher average open rate than those that don't. So we're not just talking about seasons. We're not just talking about mentioning summer when you're in spring or mentioning Q3 when you're in Q2.
4:07We're just talking about future dates. So let me give you an exact random. This is the most random stat, but this crushes it. This is from subjectline.com. When you put the future month in your subject line two weeks prior to that next month, it increases open rates over 25%. So what does that actually mean? So starting around April 15th, for example, you would start mentioning May, or if it's May 15th, you'll start mentioning June. And you would do things like, you know, sneak peek, what's coming this May? And you do that mid-April. Or this is coming in May, but you get early access now and you do that mid-April, right?
4:46People just get excited about what is coming up. They don't care about the moment that they're in and we see it in all the data. So doing this kind of look-ahead type marketing, get people excited about what's coming up, that's why, you know, you see around the holiday season, it now starts like in August. We're just excited that it's going to get there. It gets our mind excited. So if you haven't tested this kind of seasonal jump or future dates, I think it's a cool, easy test. All right, let's jump into the ridiculous portion of this podcast. Since you didn't ask, what do we got for ridiculous?
5:19We got a question from Stephanie from Greenville, Michigan. Stephanie, what do you got? Jay, my birthday is coming up and I need some fun ideas to do with my friends. What do you got? Well, I love this question. Oh, my team hooked it up because my team knows my birthday is this week. who cares? I don't even care. I'm not very fun. So I can't tell you what to do. That's fun for your birthday. I'll tell you about what I will be doing for my birthday. First of all, the good news is none of my friends listen to this podcast. Amazing. Because I lie to all of my friends. Anybody says, Oh, your birthday's coming up.
5:55What do you want to do? I say, Oh, I'm doing stuff with my family. So I'm sorry, I can't do any, which is really not necessarily true. I just don't want to do anything with anybody, especially my friends. So I lie to them and tell them I'm busy and you know, I'll do something with my family. We'll do a good dinner or whatever, but my kids are busy. They're teenagers and there's some sort of Tortuga festival that's coming up and they're going to be at that. They're 17, 18. They can care less about going to boring dinners and I don't blame them. They should be doing that. So what I'm going to be doing is I'm going to go, um, to see the movie black bag, which I want to see with Kate Blanchett and Michael Fassbender.
6:29I said his name wrong. I'm very excited about that. I'm going to go to a dinner. Now, where I'm going to go to dinner, I am going to make sure that the restaurant does not sing happy birthday. I'm going to go with my wife because it is so awkward every time they come to your table and they're like, all right, the waiters are going to sing you happy birthday. First of all, it's like nails on a chalkboard to me. The second problem is I never know if I should sing. If it's my birthday, do I sing to myself? and then when it gets to the part of my name, do I say my own name or do I just say me? I can't take it.
7:02The whole thing stresses me out. And the thing I absolutely will not be doing on my birthday, what a rant. The thing I will not be doing is, you know, I don't go, I don't, I never post on Facebook, but I go on Facebook on my birthday and say, Oh Jay, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Great. Who cares? From people I haven't talked to in 400 years. The thing that I think is the most embarrassing thing that people do. And now everyone, I'm going to get so much hate for this. Cause I was like, well, I do that, whatever. I don't care. I still think it's embarrassing. So on your birthday, what people do is at the end of the day, it's your birthday.
7:31You then go on Facebook and you go, you make a post. You go, I just want to thank everybody who wished me happy birthday today. It was so amazing to hear from everybody. I love you all. And people do that post. And to me, it's such a joke. It's like, listen, you're not that popular. Nobody actually cares. Okay. They're just kind of being nice or whatever. And you didn't get 400 messages. You got like 20 or 40 or whatever. And it wasn't like the entire country stopped and wished you had a birthday. You don't need to make a post thanking the universe because you don't have enough time to go and thank each person and message them directly.
8:05Are you kidding me? Anyway, you'll never see me make a post like that because that is totally embarrassing. Well, once again, we've covered a lot of very important information. And I sound like I'm the biggest, like most boring person. Well, actually, I probably am. Who cares? I appreciate you being here. Here's two things. One, leave this thing a review if it's not the worst podcast. Even if it is the worst podcast, leave it a review. It really does help get this thing out there more. And some odd reason, we're number three in the country right now in marketing, which blows my mind. But the other thing is, check out guruconference.com.
8:38We just opened up Reg for our giant free virtual email marketing event. It's going to be amazing. It's going to be wild. Guruconference.com. Check it out. You're awesome. And happy birthday to me. You did it. You made it to the end. Nice, but the party's not over. Subscribe to make sure you get the latest episode each week for more actionable tips and a little chaos from today's top marketers. And hook us up with a five-star review if this wasn't the worst podcast of all time. Lastly, if you want access to the best virtual marketing events that are also 100 % free, visit guruevents.com so you can hear from the world's top marketers like Damon John, Martha Stewart and me, Guruevents.com.
9:22Check it out.
From the publisher
In this episode of "Do This, Not That," host Jay Schwedelson answers your pressing questions about business and life. He redefines seasonal marketing campaigns and how consumer behavior toward future promotions will boost conversions. Last but not least, Jay talks about what to do on your birthday and what he is doing on his birthday this week!
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Best Moments:
(01:51) Marketing question about why a spring cleaning campaign isn't performing well
(02:21) Seasonal jump marketing strategy that gets 34% more engagement than in-season marketing
(03:51) Data showing emails mentioning future dates have 22% higher open rates
(05:19) Personal question about birthday celebration ideas leading to Jay's birthday rant
(06:33) Jay's aversion to restaurant birthday singing and social media birthday acknowledgments
(08:29) Mention of the podcast ranking #3 in marketing podcasts nationally
(08:37) Promotion of GuruConference.com, a free virtual email marketing event
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