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Podcast Summary: "Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson"
Episode Overview Episode Title: SPECIAL SERIES ==> 20% Click-Through Increase! B2B + B2C Animated GIFs are GOLD💡 <== | BATHROOM Break #82 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That Description: In this episode, Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray explore the overlooked yet powerful marketing tactic of using animated GIFs in emails. They discuss the impact of GIFs on engagement and how to incorporate them effectively across various marketing sectors.
Key Themes and Discussions
Introduction
- Podcast Series Concept: Introduction to a special series called "The Bathroom Break," designed for quick, insightful marketing tips.
- Hosts: Jay Schwedelson from "Do This, Not That" and Daniel Murray from "The Marketing Millennials."
The Power of Animated GIFs
- GIFs Stop the Scroll: Daniel explains that GIFs capture attention and encourage engagement, making them effective for all types of emails including newsletters and promotional content.
- Statistical Impact: Jay reveals that incorporating animated GIFs can lift click-through rates by approximately 20%.
Practical Applications
- Versatility: Animated GIFs can be utilized across different industries, including B2B and B2C.
- Ideas for GIFs:
- Call-to-action buttons can be animated to draw attention.
- Using GIFs to tease video content or highlight important aspects of an email.
Technical Insights
- Creating GIFs:
- Jay discusses the ease of creating GIFs using AI tools, and platforms like Canva and Giphy.
- Emphasis on simplicity: Just a few images stitched together can create a compelling GIF.
The Importance of Relevance
- Thematic Relevance: GIFs should be themed according to seasonal events or promotions to resonate more with the audience.
- Examples: Holiday-themed GIFs or humorous content related to current trends can boost engagement.
Best Moments
- Hosts' Banter: Light-hearted discussions about moving and packing, setting a relatable tone.
- Audience Engagement: Encouragement for listeners to send in GIFs or memes, showcasing the hosts' fun personalities.
Key Takeaways
- GIFs are Underutilized: Many marketers overlook the potential of GIFs, especially during peak seasons.
- Call to Action: Incorporating GIFs is a simple way to enhance email marketing strategies and improve engagement without significant risk.
- AI as a Resource: Utilize AI tools to simplify the process of GIF creation, making it accessible for all marketers.
Conclusion
- The episode encourages listeners to experiment with animated GIFs in their marketing efforts, particularly during high-engagement periods like the holidays. The light and conversational style makes the insights enjoyable and easy to digest.
Additional Resources
- Follow Jay Schwedelson on Social Media:
- [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson)
- [TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelson)
- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/)
- Follow Daniel Murray on LinkedIn for more marketing insights and tips.
- Check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for additional resources and discussions related to marketing strategies.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:07Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break. That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both. But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice. This collab is going to be super fun. We have Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials and me, Jay Schwetelson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com. Each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics. And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine, just don't tell us about it. Thanks for checking it out. we are back for the bathroom break i'm here with daniel murray from the market millennials i'm jay schwettelson from do this not that and this is a big week for daniel because daniel is moving he uh he texted me because i'm moving which is always a subtle opening of like hey do you want to help me move because we live sort of near each other and i i literally texted back i would help you but i don't want to he did it's a legit i have proof he texted me that And then I said, I replied back that when people ask someone to ask over 30 years old to move, it's like, hey, here's a free lunch.
1:15But also you get back surgery as your present as well. So I would never ask Jay to help me. No way. No, nothing with boxes. Anything with boxes is a hard no. Are you a good packer? Are you good at packing? No, horrible. Ari is a horrible packer too. We're like horrible at doing it. So it's going to be a mess. It's going to be a mess. I want to know a period of time. Will there be a box that remains stuffed within a box for at least six months after you move?
1:45No. But it will take like two weeks to get everything out of a box. Oh, my God. I moved 17 years ago. I think I still have like two boxes that we haven't touched. Well, we're moving from like an apartment to like a small house. So we'll have like one extra room, baby life. but we've never had this much space in our life. I think our halls are going to feel empty. You're going to get lost. Speaking of getting lost, you're going to get lost with this episode. I don't even know what transition that was. It makes no sense. What we're going to talk about, though, is a tactic in email marketing that B2B should be doing, B2C definitely should be doing, nonprofit, doesn't matter the sector, but everybody sleeps on it.
2:24But this time of year, from basically November through end of December, for some reason, this crushes it. We're talking about animated GIFs in email. So Daniel, why do animated GIFs work? What are we talking about? What are we not talking about? Well, I think the first thing we should talk about that nobody has time to read boring, long emails. And if you are writing long emails, which I think you can write long emails and there's a space for long emails, but you need to be able to break up text with GIFs, things to stop the scroll. Also, when you open an email, the first thing you will look at is that gift.
3:04And if it can make you smile or give you a reaction, it helps you stop somebody stopping in their place. And not many people do it. It's kind of a lost art. So it works for everything from newsletter to offer emails to cold prospecting to warm prospecting. You can use it in any type of email and it will help you stand out in an email inbox. Yeah. And in general, it actually lifts click-through rates by about 20 % when you use an animated GIF. And let's just talk about what we are talking about, what we're not talking about. And for those of you out there in some sort of boring B2B industry, like, I can't do this.
3:43Yes, you can. Listen, we are a simple-minded species. We are. The shiny object is where we draw, you know, follow the light. This is what we do. Okay. And animated GIFs, what they're not, they're not videos. You really cannot embed a video in an email. Some people say you can, you can mess around, screw that. It doesn't work. It's a mess. But an animated GIF is just two or three images that are stitched together that move around a little bit. Your call to action button can be an animated GIF that kind of moves around a little bit or lights up. It could be a dog. It could be your logo. It could be anything.
4:15And you're like, well, I don't know how to do that. Here's the deal. AI is your new best friend. It's my best friend for sure. All you need to do is go to your favorite AI platform and you go to it and you say, hey, I use MailChimp. I use Constant Contact. I use Klaviyo. I use HubSpot. I use whatever to send my emails. I want to create a simple animated GIF. Can you walk me through the steps on what free tool I could use to create it, how I stick it in my email, and whatever else? That's it. I want to add something you said really important, but I think you scrolled over it a little bit, is that if you have a video you want them to click out to, a demo you want them to click out to, or something to click out to, you can make something that's animated says watch now on there, or have a play button for a YouTube video with some moving things in the background, just to show that there is a video that you want them to click out to.
5:11I think that's super important as a way for having a new type of call to action in your email. So I think that if you're going to do, if you have other things like a case study you want them to link out to or something that you want them to link out to, it's good to have like a couple teasers in a GIF. Yeah. And just, you know, if anybody out there is like, well, it's going to mess up my deliverability, it's going to be do this, that or whatever. It's just not true. It's literally three images that are tied together. So if you have three images in your email to begin with, it's the same idea. They just move around a little bit.
5:44And we're like, oh, look, that's moving around. It's in our subconscious. Nobody ever looks at your animated GIF like, that is dope. That is awesome. I need to interact with that. But we do in our subconscious. And at the end of the day, email is all about the little things. And if you haven't tested animated GIFs in a year, in six months, in whatever, you got to do it. There's no downside. It's easy. And this is the time of year. November through December are the highest period of the year where animated GIFs work the best. because we're like kind of like in this mood of hey what's up and also i think what i suggest with anime gifts is always the theme it if you're gonna do something fun theme it to what's happening so if it is over the holidays you could theme it to a holiday something funny for the holidays um if it's you have an offer you could theme it to something in the offer you could do a lot of things where you theme that that gift to what is happening because relevancy is the key to a lot of marketing.
6:39So if you can show something relevant that your audience will care about. Like if I was prospecting, Jay, I would have a golden bachelor or some real... Well, actually, this is a quick pivot. I love that someone made you a golden bachelor on LinkedIn. I know. Someone made a meme of me as a golden bachelor and they post on LinkedIn. It's always amazing. You open up LinkedIn and I'm like, what what's this all about there's a picture of me as like the golden match i'm like oh my god what is going on yeah don't do that i don't need now i'm gonna get more of them yeah everybody send send your best um ai image of jay to his inbox uh he would love he would love to see what you can come up with um thank you so much i appreciate that you know in general though just one more relevant thing and then we'll be idiots i don't think we realize that ai which is my best friend anything you've always been like i always wanted to try that but i don't know how to do it just like animated gifs how do i actually do that whatever it is just go to ai and say hey i'm a doofus i don't know how to do this can you tell me in simple terms how to do it and now you have somebody that you don't have to feel like you are supposed to know stuff uh and you don't know it you can just ask it like animated gifs try it out yeah you also could go to like giphy um and put a video in and it could show you a bunch of and you can crop it to the perfect part of your video you want to do it so that there's easy stuff like that or you could go to ai and tell you or what you could do is if you don't have a video like there are tons of ai video platforms that you can make an animated video and then crop it into a gif so there's so many ways to do to do on the free version of canva they have a whole gif studio where you can make gifts in three seconds so it's all easy um all right speaking of easy so daniel the day after you move do you find it weird like when you move in trying to sleep in that new place for the first time i feel like it's a very weird situation whenever you move and you've moved i i do but talking about the bathroom i think it's always weird like if you get up in the night and you need to go to the bathroom and you forget where the bathroom is because you're just so disoriented and you you walk and you walk the same path as your at your last place and you you're looking around wait where's the bathroom right now i think that is the that is the problem when you sleep in a new place and isn't like wi-fi the most like if you don't have your wi-fi set up you feel very uncomfortable it's i do it makes me i know ari made me go up two days before i move to go set the wi-fi because she will not move in without the wifi set up.
9:25I respect that. That's a good move. Well, it's not a good move is listening to this show. Oh my God, why did I just say that? No, that's not true. It's an amazing move. The bathroom break is something. Listen, go follow the Marking Millennials. Leave Daniel a review. Tell him how awesome he is because he really is very awesome. And do this, not that. You check it out. And Daniel, any other parting words? Yeah, everybody send congrats to Jay. He was a top 100 podcast in the US. i think he was like a topping some of the most well-known celebrities in the world what were you in the top 50 i hit like i think 67 or 67 you get it you know how crazy that is so give him a round of applause everybody i appreciate that i'm sure uh a lot of people care um all right you rock all right see you the next one daniel come on man i gotta get back to work get out of there all right while he's still in there This is Jay.
10:19Check out my podcast, Do This, Not That, for marketers. Each week, we share really quick tips on stuff that can improve your marketing. And I hope you give it a try. Oh, here's Daniel. He's finally out. Back from my bathroom break. This is Daniel. Go follow the Mark and Millet podcast. But also tune into this series. It's once a week, the bathroom break. We talk about marking tips that we just spew out. And it could be anything from email, subject line, to any marking tips in the world. We'll talk about it. Just give us a shout on LinkedIn and tell us what you want to hear. Peace out. Later.
From the publisher
Moving chaos, forgotten boxes, and the universal struggle of figuring out where the bathroom is in a new place somehow turn into the perfect setup for a smart chat about a wildly overlooked email tactic. You’ll hear how adding a simple animated gif can lift clicks, stop the scroll, and make your emails feel more alive, all thanks to the always blunt brilliance of Jay Schwedelson and the ever-game-for-any-topic energy of Daniel Murray.
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Best Moments:
(01:01) Jay admits he’d help Daniel move but really, absolutely would not
(01:43) Daniel predicts the inevitable two-week unpacking saga
(03:00) Daniel breaks down why gifs instantly stop the scroll
(03:32) Jay explains how animated gifs lift click rates by about 20 percent
(05:00) Daniel shares how to turn video moments into compelling gif teasers
(07:40) Jay reminds everyone that AI makes creating gifs ridiculously simple
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