SPECIAL SERIES ==>Gross People Are Gross ➕Secrets to Repurposing Content! <== | BATHROOM Break #97 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That

0:07Jay Schwedelson:Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break. That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both.

0:16Daniel Murray:But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice. This collab is going to be super fun. We have Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials and me, Jay Schwedelson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com. each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics. And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine, just don't tell us about it. Thanks for checking it out. We are back for the bathroom break. This is Jay Schwetelson from Do This, Not That. And I'm here with the legendary Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials. And before we get into all this stuff, we're going to talk about some content tips and stuff.

0:50Daniel Murray:Daniel, I had a situation that happened to me. I want to know how you would have handled it. All right. So I was out and this guy that I saw from a little bit of a distance, he was walking towards me and I knew him and I knew we were going to shake hands and stuff. But as he was walking toward me, he was pretty far away. I saw him do the thumb thing with his nose, okay? Where he kind of put his finger up his nose a little bit, right? But he was pretty far away, but I saw him do it. And then with that same hand, And he then, as he gets close to me, yo, what's up? And he puts his hand out to give me the dude hug thing.

1:28Daniel Murray:And so I go, no, you know, like, and I didn't know what to say. So I go, ever since COVID, I'm kind of like, no go on that, which is not true. I just was like, I saw him do the finger up, the thumb up the nose thing. And so I didn't know what to do. And then he's like, what are you talking about? You're worried about COVID? Like, what's wrong with you? So like, it didn't go well. I want to know, what would you have done in that situation?

1:51Jay Schwedelson:I remember when you pulled the first thing that comes to you, you said, mine is the COVID card. I probably would have acted like I'm getting a call and just be like, sorry, sorry, dude. I'm on a call. I'll catch you later. But nice seeing you, like, give him the wave. That's what I probably would have done. It's better than COVID. Yeah, than COVID. But I know you are a germaphobe. I'm not a germaphobe.

2:21Daniel Murray:That's not even accurate. You are. You're such a germaphobe.

2:25Jay Schwedelson:That's not true.

2:26Daniel Murray:Dude, if somebody puts their finger up their nose and you don't want to shake their hand, that doesn't make you a germaphobe. It makes you a normal human being. But I do know.

2:33Jay Schwedelson:I know. I wouldn't. If I seen something like that, I wouldn't do that. But especially that I now have a baby, if I see anybody sneeze, if I hear someone sneeze in the Amarillo restaurant, I'm moving seats. Oh, yeah. I love that. Great move. Guaranteed move. I hear a sneeze. If you sneeze twice, it's I'm a goner. We went to this like baby gym class, you know, like the little jumps. And this mom and kid were just coughing and sneezing. And I was like, sorry, he isn't. It's nap time. Nap time. So I picked him up. and how.

3:10Daniel Murray:First of all, I completely agree with that maneuver. So let's see if everyone completely agrees with these maneuvers. So one of the things that Daniel and I talk a lot about is content, cutting down on time in terms of creating content with your business or consumer marketer. And I think that one of the things that I've learned from Daniel a lot, now I'm doing a lot, is that nobody remembers what you've posted. No one remembers what you put in your newsletter. and one of the things that we've done this year is we've been measuring a lot and we found that there's a 90-day window, that we could take stuff that we posted 90 days ago, post it again, we could put it in our newsletter again.

3:48Daniel Murray:It will do as good, if not better, than if it was original content. We, of course, post our winners. Doing that move has saved us so much time and effort and to tell you the truth, I always thought I was being repetitive, but the more I do it, the more I realize there's a lot of new people and nobody remembers anything. We're like goldfish. Where do you land on that?

4:08Jay Schwedelson:You mean the post you posted a couple hours ago that was posted like two months ago?

4:14Daniel Murray:Yeah, thank you. I'm kidding.

4:19Jay Schwedelson:I'm on the board that I'll add a caveat to that. When I repurpose content, I keep track of what are the highest performers of the content. And then I'll go back to the highest performers over and over and over. If something didn't work, it's not going back into the 90-day cycle. So I'll rank everything by impressions, engagement, shares, all that, and then do that. And then I think there's a shorter window. I think 90-day for the same content is a good window. I think there's a shorter window if you repeat the hook or the idea of that post and remix it into something different where it's a meme, you make it a quote and then you make it a text post and you make it a video.

5:13You could do that, I would say, every two weeks and you're fine.

5:19Jay Schwedelson:Nobody's going to remember. But if it's the same exact post, there is a window to refresh it. But I think if a hook's working, I am not going to give up on that hook. I'm not going to just wait 90 days to have that hook go because I know that I want it in the feed as much as possible because I know it works. So I try to keep the same hook over and over and over. if it's working because I know it will get engagement and I know people care about it.

5:49Daniel Murray:And especially for everyone out there that's in charge of company pages, could be a company social page, like an Instagram page, a consumer, B2B, a LinkedIn page, whatever. This is the playbook. This is what you want to be doing. You don't need 500 great ideas. You don't need 500 great pieces of content. You can just take the old content. But something, Daniel, that you taught me is you can't just take literally the same image and the exact same words like you have to resize it and change some stuff right because the algorithm doesn't like when you just repeat it like you got to change a little bit right

6:20Jay Schwedelson:yeah i tweak it a little bit some sometimes i post exactly the same meme but that's like the 90 day window you were saying but if it's you could take that same headline like sales and marketing alignment and do stepbrothers do a picture with someone with their shirt two people in the shirt crying and saying like, you know, some people do that. But I also say a good way to also keep it in the algorithm is use it as comments too. A good way to use it in refresher, use it as a comment. If someone's talking about sales and marketing alignment or they're talking about this, you could use that. keep your highest performance as comments because it's also a good way to get it in and it's not really in the feed.

7:12Jay Schwedelson:But you know you get engagement on the post and get impressions, especially on LinkedIn. So keep winners as comments as well.

7:20Daniel Murray:Yeah, I just think across the board. So even if we put aside content for a second, I'll tell you something else that I've realized in my career. I do a lot of stuff, let's say, in the world of email stuff. And maybe I'll talk about subject line stuff or whatever. And I've always felt like I'm repetitive. Like maybe I say the same tip, you know, start your subject line with a number because it does well. It gets you a higher opium rate. I think I probably have said that, I don't know, a thousand times. And I used to believe that I can't talk about that anymore. I've said it so much. Everybody's heard me say that.

7:56Daniel Murray:Well, who the hell am I that I think that everybody's paying attention to me? Nobody's paying attention to me. Okay. And every time I say it, new people are like, oh, I should test that. Or people that have been connecting me forever are saying, oh, I should try that. Don't think that whatever field that you're in, whatever your brand is, I don't care if you're selling socks. Okay. Whatever you think you're being repetitive on, you are not. You are reaching new people. You're reaching new ear balls and eyeballs and all the things.

8:23Jay Schwedelson:I think that's the key too is with repurposing is there's all you always when you're if you're growing an audience you always there's always new people in the audience so you're always introducing that idea and introducing your concept and what your beliefs to a new new people so sometimes content isn't for the raving fans it's for the new people and sometimes it is for the raving fans so you you just keep putting in the other and also algorithms don't show your content to everybody so there's a high chance that some people haven't seen that content before or they're not going to remember the content.

9:01Jay Schwedelson:I bet you, even you, Jay, can remember what you posted on Tuesday. And if you don't remember, how is someone else going to remember what you posted on Tuesday?

9:12Daniel Murray:That's so valid. It's so true. And I think it's just a good reminder for everyone because, listen, you need maybe four or five really good ideas. That's it. And you ride those ideas, whatever they are for your business brand, your consumer brand, ride those ideas and you will win. All right, Daniel, so let's go back to the originating topic, the guy with the finger up the nose type thing. So like when you are out at a restaurant, if you have a cold, will you go out like if you're coughing and stuff or are you because now like You're so aware of how you feel about other people that you just stay at home because you want to be the gross monster.

9:57Jay Schwedelson:I don't want to be the gross monster. And I actually feel terrible if I need to go out somewhere to get something and I am coughing. I feel so insecure around people that I'm coughing that I will never go to a restaurant coughing. I remember one time I had to get back from like Europe to the U S and I was, I was sick and I'm like, this is, this is the worst thing to be in a plane.

10:24Daniel Murray:This was like pre COVID where masks weren't a thing.

10:27Jay Schwedelson:And I was just like, I'm that asshole. I'm the asshole. Like on the plane right now.

10:32Daniel Murray:Do you wipe down the plane with a, with a wipe where you sit down?

10:36Jay Schwedelson:Ever since I had a baby, my protocols are all of these things. It's wipe down seats. It's wipe hands. It's make sure we're washing our hands with hands. So the people, the biggest thing about COVID and people don't understand is hand sanitizer does not kill viruses. Washing hands do. And people use hand sanitizer and didn't kill the virus. They knew you need soap and water to kill a virus. So if you think you're, when you have hand sanitizer on you're killing sickness, you're not go wash your hand.

11:09Daniel Murray:All right. This is about five or six years too late. this advice, but still very, very valuable. Might be the only valuable thing we talked about in this episode. Everybody leave Daniel on amazing review. The guy deserves great reviews. And if I don't suck, you could leave me one too. And we'll catch up the next one.

11:28Daniel Murray:Daniel, come on, man. I got to get back to work. Get out of there. All right. While he's still in there, this is Jay. Check out my podcast, Do This, Not That for marketers. Each week we share really quick tips on stuff that and improve your marketing and hope you give it a try. Oh, here's Daniel. He's finally out.

11:44Jay Schwedelson:Back from my bathroom break. This is Daniel. Go follow the Mark and Millet podcast, but also tune into this series. It's once a week, the bathroom break. We talk about marketing tips that we just spew out and it could be anything from email, subject line to any marketing tips in the world. We'll talk about it. Just give us a shout on LinkedIn and tell us what you want to hear. Peace out. Later.