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Podcast Episode Summary: Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson
Episode Details
- Title: SPECIAL SERIES ==> Right Now! ‘Most’ = Massive Engagement Boost! Easy test to try!! <== | BATHROOM Break #81 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That
- Hosts: Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray
Podcast Overview "Do This, NOT That" is a marketing podcast that helps listeners master essential marketing strategies and actionable insights. The episode focuses on leveraging the concept of "most" in marketing campaigns during the holiday season to enhance engagement.
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Key Concepts Discussed
- The Power of "Most"
- Using the word "most" in marketing materials can significantly increase engagement.
- Examples include:
- “Most downloaded”
- “Most gifted”
- “Most viewed”
- The concept taps into consumer psychology, where individuals desire to know what others prefer, which drives their decisions.
- Year-End Content Strategies
- The holiday season provides a unique opportunity to recap and promote:
- Gift guides
- Roundups of top-performing content
- Highlights of the year's best products or services
- Utilizing AI in Marketing
- AI simplifies the process of analyzing past performance data.
- Allows marketers to easily identify "most" metrics, such as:
- Most downloaded content
- Most shared social media posts
- This data can help create engaging summaries or highlight reels.
- Consumer Behavior Insights
- Marketers should consider:
- Holiday nostalgia and comfort in their messaging.
- The tendency of consumers to catch up on popular trends during this time.
- Practical Advice for Marketers
- Implement "most" metrics across various marketing channels:
- Emails featuring top products or services
- Social media posts highlighting popular content
- Content should resonate with the audience's desire for familiarity and validation.
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Best Moments from the Episode
- (01:16): Jay humorously shares his slow jogging experiences.
- (02:45): Daniel discusses the effectiveness of year-end roundups.
- (03:44): Jay emphasizes how using “most” can boost engagement and clicks.
- (05:00): Daniel highlights how AI can assist in creating effective marketing lists.
- (06:01): Jay connects the psychology of holiday content to nostalgic feelings.
- (07:42): Daniel explains how “most bought” emails can enhance conversions.
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Conclusion The episode underscores the importance of the word "most" in marketing campaigns, especially during the holiday season. By implementing strategies that reflect consumer preferences and leveraging technology like AI, marketers can significantly boost engagement and drive conversions.
Listeners are encouraged to think creatively about their year-end content and to utilize the insights shared in this episode to maximize their marketing efforts.
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Additional Resources
- Follow Daniel Murray: [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/)
- Listen to The Marketing Millennials Podcast: [Link](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-marketing-millennials/id1527434899)
- Jay Schwedelson's Social Media:
- [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson)
- [TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelson)
- [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/)
This podcast episode serves as a reminder that effective marketing is about understanding consumer behavior and adapting strategies to meet their needs during key moments in the year.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:07Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break. That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both. But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice. This collab is going to be super fun. We have Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials and me, Jay Schwetelson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com. Each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics. And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine, just don't tell us about it. Thanks for checking it out. we are back with another episode of bathroom breaks i'm here with the guru himself jay swederson and i am daniel murray and i actually found out a fun fact about jay and he's been gatekeeping this for the last three years but he goes for a jog every saturday and sunday and i didn't even know he ran so like could you explain what i hate what does i hate you so here's the thing.
1:05So I live in this community. There's a circle around the community. It's three miles long. And so I do it every Saturday and Sunday. It's not a flex at all because I want to like keel over by the time I get back. But the worst part is I go so slow, like so slow that people will stop me and be like, how's your walk going? And I'm like, want to give them the finger because I'm like, bro, I'm running, you clown. I'm running. And even like anybody I see, oh, the circle i go dude i am running so i get like so much i get so angry do you run at all i don't feel like you're a runner no i had a phase in 2019 where a phase it was a phase it was like a it was like a four month phase where i was just addicted to strava and i was addicted to beating a 5k time so i would just run like three times a week trying to beat my 5k time uh for four months and then i just couldn't do it anymore i couldn't run anymore i get too bored running i need to play a sport that's why i got into tennis because i just can't just think about running for three miles or four miles i don't know how how people do that oh i'm horrendous well i couldn't be worse at it.
2:25Anybody that runs a marathon, props to you because, dude, that is wild. But let's get into this episode. Daniel, what's going on this time of year? What is the content? What are things that we could be doing this time of year, unlike any other time of year that actually crush it? Well, the thing that happens this time of year is you've done a lot of work as a marketing team to create content that you put out episodes you put out products you put out um that and you you have metrics now of what's doing well and what's not doing well so this is like the best time to put out gift guides most downloaded content our favorite episodes of this year takeaways from all our blogs or all our interviews this is the time to be able to do roundups and i think jay calls it the which is the spotified rapify of your content of the year but what are some things you you try that have worked jay that you or you've seen other people do that are cool out there.
3:37The most powerful word this time of year is the word most. We live in a world now, all we want to know is what other people think. That's it. That's why you get in an Uber that's a 4.9. You cancel one that's a 3.8 because you're scared. All we care about is what other people think. The content this time of year, if you package it in the most, it exponentially increases the number of people downloading it, consuming it, watching it, interacting with it. You know, our most listened to podcast episode, our most downloaded tip sheet, right? Our most favorited outfits, our most wish forward gifts, whatever it is that the most, it doesn't matter if you have three people that visit the blog posts.
4:19Okay. It is still your most. And all we care about are these superlatives. So when you think you don't have anything really awesome to push, package up whatever you got that's the most, make buckets of different things and push it between now and the end of the year. And you will be shocked about the level of consumption that people and engagement that you get. I'm going to add on why it's even way better to do it now than more than ever. We have AI to help us do this now. Before you were manually looking through spreadsheets and saying, what is the most downloaded content? What is the most viewed content?
4:59What's the most viewed podcast? What is my most viewed video? What's my most shared thing? Now you could plug in all your data or your content, and you can even now do something better and say, here's a tip from each of these most listened to. Here's the five best tips from the most listened to episodes of 2025. So you can even create more content from that most by just using AI to pull out those metrics and pull out those quotes and pull out those data points. And it's super easy to do than ever before. And you know, this time of year is also a moment where you always get in the psyche of whoever your market to, consumers, business professionals, doesn't matter.
5:43We love this time of year when we can kind of all rely on certain things, certain types of content. That's the reason Mariah Carey's song is always hits number one every time of this year. That's the reason Spotify rap is so popular. And you can do that as well. You can say, this is the most whatever. This is our most consumed, most bought, most wished for, most doubted. Lean into this because that's the mindset that we're in. We want to get comfortable and we also want to catch up on whatever we missed out on. What is Netflix number one show of the your most watched show of the year. Oh, I missed it.
6:19I'm going to watch it. So this is every time of the year, you have to get into the psyche of what is going on out there. And this is so easy. It costs you nothing and it takes no time. It is a no brainer. I also think if we're thinking about not only a content plays, you could do emails that say, here are the most gifted products we have um of 2025 here are the most um bought products of 2025 people want to know what the most bought because they want to be like other people like jay said at the beginning roundups like that they want to know what is the most bought most viewed most um even you can do this in any line of business for services for uh sas features for anything like this is our most viewed feature people do this people do that you use it this time because you could say of 2025 because now we can aggregate all the data and it's believable that you aggregated all the data from the last year all right so let me ask you this going back to the running thing um have you you don't strike me as somebody that's gone to a workout class like have you ever gone to like i don't know a pilates class an orange theory fitness class i cannot imagine you in one of these classes like all right everyone do five push-ups oh it's actually a false thing because me and Ari we had like I said it was my running phase we had phases so we had a soul cycle phase and oh yeah uh we had a Barry's boot camp phase that's a hard phase that was a hard phase it was I was and something about me is I'm very competitive and I'll do if I'm someone's running next to me and they're running at 12 and I can't run at 12 I'm going to still try run at 12 and kill myself while they're looking like it makes it makes it look easy um so I was dying while these fit people were just crushing it um so and then I had a a peloton phase um so I had all the I I was in a class phase but now I'm on I going back to my sports phase where I play sports.
8:33I have to tell you those classes. So I've done all of those classes. They're all horrible for different reasons, but I really gave up on them because I remember I was doing orange three fitness, which is one of these classes, whatever you do all these exercises. And then they started having you had a partner up like, all right, everybody get a partner and you're going to go and do like, I don't know, sit ups together or something. And I don't want to partner up with these randos. Everyone's disgusting. And then you have to like hold the person's ankles or whatever. and I'm like, I don't want to do this.
9:00I'm like, can I participate without partnering? They're like, no, we need to partner. And I was like, peace out. I never showed up again. I don't want to partner up. Jay doesn't want to. I think I never understand why you would go to a class because you hate being around so many people. So why are you going to any of these classes? That's why you go on your runs and nobody's bothering you. And people still tend to bother you on your runs. So it's interesting. Oh, when people try to like talk or whatever, somebody I know and they're like, hey, I'm like, what are you doing? What's wrong with you?
9:33I'm running. I think that's the worst when you go to class and then someone you know, like you're trying to avoid them, like people seeing you exercise and then someone you know who's like, and the worst part is when they're way fitter than you and they make the class look easy and you come in the class like soaked and they're like, that was good. That was fun. Yeah. I'll tell you what wasn't fun listening to this episode. It was torture, I'm sure. But we appreciate you being here. What a sell. Everyone, leave the Marketing Millennials a review. Follow their show. And if you're really bored, do that with Do This, Not That.
10:07And we'll see you at the next one. Daniel, come on, man. I got to get back to work. Get out of there. All right. While he's still in there, this is Jay. Check out my podcast, Do This, Not That, for marketers. Each week, we share really quick tips on stuff that can improve your marketing. And I hope you give it a try. Oh, here's Daniel. He's finally out. back from my bathroom break this is daniel go follow the mark and the line podcast but also tune into this series it's once a week the bathroom break we talk about marking tips that we just spew out and it could be anything from email subject line to any marking tips in the world we'll talk about it just give us a shout on linkedin and tell us what you want to hear peace out later
From the publisher
The holiday season brings a different kind of marketing energy, and Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray are all about helping you use it. Between roasting each other about running habits and gym classes, they dig into why “the most” might be the single most powerful word you can use in your end-of-year campaigns. From “most downloaded” to “most gifted,” this episode shows how to wrap up your content (literally) in ways people can’t resist.
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Best Moments:
(01:16) Jay reveals his painfully slow “runs” that neighbors mistake for walks
(02:45) Daniel shares why roundups and “Spotify Wrapped”-style posts crush at year-end
(03:44) Jay explains why adding “most” instantly boosts engagement and clicks
(05:00) Daniel breaks down how AI makes it easier than ever to create top-performer lists
(06:01) Jay connects year-end content psychology to holiday nostalgia and comfort
(07:42) Daniel shows how “most bought” and “most gifted” emails drive conversions
(08:33) Jay rants about workout classes that make you “partner up with randos”
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