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5 Jan 2026 · 10 min · 5 chapters

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Podcast Summary: Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson

Episode Title

SPECIAL SERIES ==> Stop Taking Terrible Marketing Advice 🚽 <== | BATHROOM Break #89 COLLAB: The Marketing Millennials + Do This, Not That

Episode Overview In this episode of "Do This, NOT That," hosts Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray confront common misconceptions and poor marketing advice circulating at the start of the new year. They aim to provide listeners with practical insights and alternatives to the often misleading guidance they encounter.

Key Themes and Insights

  1. Poor Marketing Advice
  2. "Be Everywhere" Mentality:
  3. Daniel critiques the notion that brands must be present on all social platforms.
  4. Takeaway: It's better to excel on one platform than to spread efforts thinly across many.
  • Personal Preferences vs. Audience Needs:
  • Jay emphasizes the dangers of allowing personal dislikes to dictate marketing decisions.
  • Takeaway: Marketers must base decisions on audience testing rather than subjective opinions.
  • Content Creation vs. Distribution:
  • Both hosts argue against the obsession with creating perfect content without a distribution strategy.
  • Takeaway: Focus on delivering above-average content and prioritize effective distribution methods.
  1. The Fallacy of Content Calendars
  2. Jay points out that rigid content calendars can limit a brand's ability to respond to current events or trends.
  3. Takeaway: Flexibility allows brands to engage with their audience in a relevant and timely manner.
  1. The Role of AI in Marketing
  2. The hosts dismiss fears that AI will replace marketers, asserting that it will instead automate mundane tasks while enhancing the work of professionals with creativity and strategy.
  3. Takeaway: Embrace AI as a tool for efficiency rather than a threat to job security.

Best Moments Highlighted

  • (02:16): Jay critiques the influx of speculative marketing advice at the beginning of the year as "epic toilet paper, garbage, trash."
  • (02:46): Daniel argues for quality over quantity in social media presence.
  • (03:38): Jay discusses the pitfalls of relying on personal opinions in marketing decisions.
  • (04:34): Daniel encourages a focus on content distribution over perfection.
  • (05:38): Jay suggests that the best-performing content often comes from spontaneous, unplanned posts.
  • (06:40): Both hosts address misconceptions about AI's impact on marketing jobs.

Conclusion In this engaging episode, Jay and Daniel provide actionable insights that empower marketers to reject ineffective advice and focus on strategies that yield real results. They encourage listeners to adapt, experiment, and embrace new tools while staying true to their audience’s needs.

Additional Resources

  • Follow Daniel Murray on LinkedIn: [Daniel's LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/)
  • The Marketing Millennials Podcast: [Listen Here](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-marketing-millennials/id1527434899)
  • Jay Schwedelson's YouTube Channel: [YouTube Channel](https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson)
  • Jay's TikTok: [TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelson)
  • Jay's Instagram: [Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/)

Final Thoughts This episode serves as a reminder for marketers to critically assess the advice they encounter, seek out effective strategies, and remain adaptable in a fast-paced industry.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.

Chapters

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New Year Resolutions and Personal Updates

0:45 to 1:26

Hosts discuss their New Year resolutions and personal health updates.

“daniel we're only like a few days in here have you broken your resolutions are you are you holding strong where are you at well i think i took i took your advice on a previous podcast and I ate a lot over the holidays.”

Bad Marketing Advice: Social Media Strategy

1:26 to 3:38

Discussion on the pitfalls of following social media advice without understanding the audience.

“my wife thinks I'm like very, I'm always very stressed.”

Content Creation vs. Distribution

3:38 to 5:38

Emphasis on the importance of distribution in marketing over simply creating great content.

“And I think you're better off not being on a platform than being on a platform with barely any exposure because then you look like you're like you don't even know what you're doing, which is a negative signal.”

The Role of AI in Marketing

5:38 to 7:23

Debate on AI's impact on marketing jobs and its role as a supportive tool for marketers.

“You know, along those lines, especially this time of year, the thing that I stink at and I'm telling you right now is a waste of time.”

Health Tips and Cooking

7:23 to 9:14

Casual conversation about health habits and cooking at home with personal anecdotes.

“Let me just tell you, I think it's the most annoying thing.”
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0:07Welcome to a new special series called The Bathroom Break. That extra 10 minutes, you either have to listen to marketing tips or use the bathroom or both. But I don't recommend both, but that's your choice. This collab is going to be super fun. We have Daniel Murray from the Marketing Millennials and me, Jay Schwetelson, from the Do This Not That podcast and subjectline.com. Each episode in the series, we are going to go over quick tips about different marketing topics. And if you want to be in the bathroom, fine, just don't tell us about it. Thanks for checking it out. we are back for the bathroom break i am jay schwettleson from do this not that i'm here with the guy himself daniel murray for the marquee millennials and here we are it is a new year daniel we're only like a few days in here have you broken your resolutions are you are you holding strong where are you at well i think i took i took your advice on a previous podcast and I ate a lot over the holidays.

1:05So like net zero, I am like down weight because I gained like 10 pounds on the holidays. So I'm currently crushing my resolution of that. So I'm proud of myself for that. What about you? What are you, are you crushing your ears? I am trying to crush it. So my wife thinks I'm like very, I'm always very stressed. So she made me start taking my blood pressure every morning i've been doing that and thankfully it's not been terrible i was taking it in the middle of the day i didn't know your blood pressure is really you're supposed to take it the first thing in the morning because in the middle of the day it's like four billion over four billion and it looks like you're in trouble so um i didn't know that i go to the doctor all the time and they like if i sometimes i'm it's perfect and sometimes they say you need to go on blood pressure medication.

2:00Oh, I've been on blood pressure medication for 25 years. Oh my God. It's so bad. Okay. Well, that's a fun fact for everybody. Yeah. Don't do whatever I'm doing. But speaking of don't doing stuff, this time of year is very unique. Everybody becomes Nostradamus this time of year. Everybody gives advice. They have outlooks. They tell you what's going to happen and everyone's full of it. Nobody knows what's going on. And the thing that annoys me the most is everyone's giving advice. And the majority of marketing advice that's given out there, not just about the new year rolling out, but in general, is epic toilet paper garbage trash.

2:38So I want to rip through with you, Daniel, some marketing advice overall that you think is an epic piece of garbage. I think the one I'm thinking about, because I love social and I think people do this, is I hear this all the time that you need to be on every social platform without thinking about where your audience is. And I honestly believe that it's better to be A plus on one platform than C's on 10 platform. And I think if you don't focus on being dominant on one platform, because once you're dominant on one platform, it's easy to recreate the winners on that platform or another platform.

3:19But this theory that you need to be on every platform posting every day is not maybe have some sort of presence just to look like you're alive as a business. But posting every day and being every platform, being great on every platform is not something you need to do. And I think it's horrible advice. It is horrible advice. And I think you're better off not being on a platform than being on a platform with barely any exposure because then you look like you're like you don't even know what you're doing, which is a negative signal. The advice that I think I cannot stand, and I don't even know if it's really advice, is everybody has, it's probably number one problem in marketing.

3:55You'll be in a meeting with your higher-ups, whatever, and someone comes up with an idea, a marketing idea, and they're like, somebody's like, well, I don't like that, or I wouldn't open that, or I wouldn't click on that. And then everyone piles on, yeah, I wouldn't either, I wouldn't interact with that, we shouldn't do it. And the problem is you are not your audience, And if you don't have a testing culture and you're not testing first, as opposed to whatever your opinion is, you are in a bad marketing environment because this idea of, I don't like it, dictating what you're doing is absolutely the worst thing in the world of marketing.

4:34I'll piggyback off that and say that a lot of people, which is bad marketing advice is create this great piece of content and not even think about the distribution of that content so they just like just create something great and post it and see what happens and just because you've created something that you think is great like air quotes a lot of things that you think is great aren't great to your audience um doesn't mean so stop waiting to create this perfect piece of content this perfect piece of and just post above average things that you think your audience might like and let it rip i think that's a horrible advice because And also, when you're posting a piece of content, think about the distribution plan, because that's honestly in this day and age with all the slop out there with AI and stuff like that, distribution is going to be way more important than creating because everybody can create now.

5:28Like how you distribute it and how it gets on the platform and how the formatting matters way more than like making this A plus piece of content. You know, along those lines, especially this time of year, the thing that I stink at and I'm telling you right now is a waste of time. It's great if you have one, but content calendars. Everyone sits back and they go, okay, this is our content calendar for the year. And then you put it in like stone. You're like, we have to follow this thing. And don't feel bad if you don't have a content calendar. It's more than fine. And the reason I said that is sometimes you have to move at the speed of culture.

6:03Okay, that is how you win. You wake up in the morning, there's something going on. You can participate in that. And whether you're a boring B2B brand, a nonprofit consumer, it doesn't matter. but oh no, it's not on our content calendar this week. So we can't do it. The social posts, the emails that perform the best for my clients and for my organization are usually the ones that we didn't have a plan for. It's like when I'm somewhere on a trip and I'm cold, I go to the Gap and I buy a hoodie. That hoodie winds up being my favorite piece of clothing that I own for the next 20 years. I don't know why that always happens but it's not the thing that you plan for that's gonna always work.

6:40On another note, I think, because we're in the AI revolution and it's 2026, is I don't believe that when people say AI are going to replace marketers. I think it's going to replace lazy execution. I think it's going to replace tasks that suck, but it's going to amplify people with taste, people with strategy, people who understand marketing. So stop listening to everybody that says it's going to replace marketers and replace marketers. It's actually going to help you as a marketer and think of it as a tool. I hate this narrative that it's just going to get rid of people, especially right now. Maybe far down the line, but in this moment, AI is not replacing marketers.

7:23I could not agree with you more. AI is not taking people's jobs. Let me just tell you, I think it's the most annoying thing. First of all, everything you read, it says the career you have to go into is becoming a plumber, become an electrician, which is wonderful. Those are great jobs, trade jobs, whatever. but the amount of times people are saying it, there's going to be 4 billion plumbers. There's going to be more plumbers than toilets with how often people are saying everyone should go get a trade job. It's out of control. And here's the reality of it, okay? The only jobs AI will take is if your job, and where did I hear this?

7:54I have no idea. Your job is a task. If your job is a singular task, yeah, you might be screwed. But that's not the job of a real marketer. You're not doing a task. So if you're not doing a task, get good at AI and lean into it and stop being a tool and think it's taking your job. Why do I get so worked up? I'm out of control. I probably have high blood pressure right now. That's not good. No, you're probably going to six Celsius. Let's be honest. That's what's really happening right now. All right. So wait, before we wrap up, since it is the start of the year, I know you're on your tennis kick.

8:27Now you're trying to lose weight from this giant number that you're at. And I'm not calling you big jay luckily it's not video right now so right what is the other health tactic that you are doing as this new year rolls out yeah one i need to start walking more baby just like makes me not so i'm just like forcing myself to just take the baby out more so that's i feel like walking's the best option and one thing me and ari suck at is like cooking at home. So we're trying to at least like cook at home. Yeah, step it up. It's so hard to cook at home when two of the people have jobs, but it's... Oh, please.

9:10Tonight's salmon night. I'm cooking salmon as soon as I get home. What's wrong with you? Oh yeah, salmon night. It's the best night of the week. There we go. And then I get hungry an hour later and nauseous simultaneously. You need your omega-3s for your heart though. Yeah, there you go. I need to do something. Well, another amazing episode. Listen, go follow the Marky Millennials, the greatest podcast in the universe. The one that's terrible is mine. Do this, not that. And we'll see you at the next one.

9:40Daniel, come on, man. I got to get back to work. Get out of there. All right. While he's still in there, this is Jay. Check out my podcast, Do This, Not That, for marketers. Each week, we share really quick tips on stuff that can improve your marketing. And I hope you give it a try. Oh, here's Daniel. He's finally out. Back from my bathroom break. This is Daniel. Go follow the Mark and Millet podcast, but also tune into this series. It's once a week, the bathroom break. We talk about marking tips that we just spew out. And it could be anything from email, subject line, to any marking tips in the world.

10:14We'll talk about it. Just give us a shout on LinkedIn and tell us what you want to hear. Peace out. Later.

From the publisher

New year, same avalanche of bad marketing advice, and Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray are calling it out in the most cathartic way possible. From the myth that you need to be everywhere on social to the dangerous habit of letting "I don't like it" kill good ideas, they walk through the worst guidance floating around your feed right now and what to do instead. If you have content guilt, AI anxiety, or a content calendar you secretly hate, this Bathroom Break will make you feel seen and send you back to work with a much saner playbook.

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Follow Daniel on LinkedIn and check out The Marketing Millennials podcast for sharp, no-fluff marketing insights. Subscribe to Ari Murray’s newsletter at gotomillions.co for sharp, actionable marketing insights.

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Best Moments:

(02:16) Jay rants about how every marketer suddenly becomes a futurist in January and why most of that big-brain advice is "epic toilet paper, garbage, trash."

(02:46) Daniel rips apart the idea that you need to be on every social platform and explains why being A-plus on one channel beats being C-minus everywhere.

(03:38) Jay goes off on the classic "I wouldn't click that" feedback and lays out why you are not your audience and testing culture has to beat personal opinion.

(04:34) Daniel demolishes the obsession with perfect content, arguing you should ship above-average ideas and obsess over distribution and formatting instead.

(05:38) Jay calls rigid content calendars a waste of time and shows how the best performing posts are usually the unplanned ones that move at the speed of culture, Gap hoodie and all.

(06:40) Daniel and Jay tag team the AI panic, insisting it will replace lazy, task-only work long before it replaces real marketers with taste, strategy, and curiosity.

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