The MICRO Changes That Move MACRO Numbers 🧠 Jay’s SCOOP | Ep. 453

29 Jan 2026 · 11 min · 4 chapters

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Episode Title

The MICRO Changes That Move MACRO Numbers 🧠 Jay’s SCOOP | Ep. 453

Episode Description In this episode, Jay Schwedelson emphasizes that small adjustments in marketing strategies can lead to significant improvements. Leveraging insights from extensive data on billions of emails and thousands of campaigns, he provides a checklist of easy-to-implement tweaks that can dramatically enhance performance.

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Key Takeaways

Importance of Micro Changes

  • Many marketing teams believe that substantial changes are necessary for meaningful results.
  • Small tweaks often yield larger impacts than expected.

Actionable Marketing Insights

Here are some of the key strategies discussed

  • Text Justification in Emails
  • Left-justified text performs better than center-justified text.
  • Impact: 12% higher click-through rates with left justification.
  • Reassurance Lines on Forms
  • Adding a brief reassurance line (e.g., "Takes under 30 seconds to fill out") below forms can boost submissions.
  • Impact: 18% increase in form submissions.
  • Logo Clicks in Emails
  • Approximately 20% of email clicks are on the logo.
  • Recommendation: Link the logo to the relevant offer page instead of the homepage to maintain engagement.
  • Form Fields on Landing Pages
  • Each additional required field can decrease submissions by around 9%.
  • Advice: Eliminate unnecessary fields to enhance user experience.
  • Webinar Attendance on Fridays
  • Contrary to common belief, Fridays are not poor days for webinars.
  • Data: Webinar attendance on Fridays has increased by 75% year over year.
  • Removal of Social Buttons
  • Including social sharing buttons on landing pages can distract users and reduce conversions.
  • Recommendation: Remove these buttons to see a conversion rate increase of over 8%.
  • Use of PS in Emails
  • Including a PS with a reiteration of the offer can significantly boost click-through rates.
  • Impact: 14% increase in overall clicks.

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Additional Insights

  • The episode also features a light-hearted discussion about consumer behaviors, particularly related to retail scents.
  • Jay humorously critiques the overwhelming use of scents in stores, suggesting that they do not significantly attract customers.

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Call to Action

  • Book Announcement: Jay's upcoming book titled *Stupider People Have Done It* is set to be released on April 21, 2026. All proceeds will go to The V Foundation for Cancer Research.
  • Engagement: Listeners are encouraged to check out Jay's social media channels and website for more resources and potential collaborations.

Links

  • [Jay's YouTube Channel](https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson)
  • [Jay's TikTok](https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelson)
  • [Jay's Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/)
  • [Pre-order Jay's Book](https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206)

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Conclusion This episode of *Do This, NOT That* serves as a reminder that even the smallest changes in marketing strategies can lead to significant results in engagement and conversions. Marketers are encouraged to test these tactics in their campaigns for improved performance.

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Chapters

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Micro Changes for Macro Impact

0:45 to 3:23

Learn how small changes in marketing can lead to significant improvements.

“but there are so many micro little things that you can do that will actually have a really big impact on performance that usually you're not thinking of.”

Effective Email Practices

3:23 to 7:35

Discover simple tactics to enhance email marketing effectiveness.

“Another super small thing that I always like to tell marketers, especially in the email campaigns they're sending out, is you want to think about every link in your email.”

Changing Perspectives on Fridays

7:35 to 9:13

Understand why Fridays can be beneficial for marketing strategies.

“Does your home smell like a toilet that you're trying to buy this stuff to overcompensate and then like you want it to then smell, everything's got to smell like lavender.”

Social Links and Conversion Rates

9:13 to 11:00

Find out how social sharing links can negatively impact conversions.

“whatever your store smells like is fine i am not going to your store because i'm like we got to go there.”
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0:00Welcome to Do This Not That, the podcast from marketers. We share quick tips, things you can do right now, and then we add a little bit of chaos at the end of every episode. We also keep it short, like this intro. Let's check it out. We are back for Do This Not That podcast. And the thing that crushes me, that upsets me so much about so many different marketing teams I interact with, is they think that in order to have meaningful change, improvements in the number of new customers you're getting, the number of pieces of content that are getting downloaded, whatever, that you need to make these big changes.

0:38We need a different platform. We need to completely redo all of our templates, all this stuff. And that very well may be helpful, but there are so many micro little things that you can do that will actually have a really big impact on performance that usually you're not thinking of. So I wanted to rip through a number, like a good number of the easiest little things you may not be aware of that you could test or utilize in your different marketing campaigns. And all of this data I'm going to share with you, all these literal, simplest, I hate saying the word literal. I just said it. It doesn't matter.

1:14I'm going to say it again. These are literally the simplest tactics to try. And all of the statistic data comes from my research group at World Data Research, where on an annualized basis, we are doing over 6 billion emails a year. We're doing over 40 ,000 campaigns on social a year, all these different things. So let me take you through some of these tactics that you can then think about implementing, whether you're a business marketer or a consumer marketer. First off, believe it or not, how you justify text in emails that you are sending out to your existing customer base. Maybe it's a letter format email.

1:53Maybe it's a pretty HTML email that has copy in it, right? That could be for a nonprofit email, consumer email, business email, doesn't matter. If it is center justified, it does much worse than if it is left justified. Actually having it left justified will significantly increase performance. So for example, having it center justified, your overall click-through rate, if it's center justified, will be lower by 12 % on average than if it was left justified. I mean, that's what I'm talking about. these little things that actually have a big deal. This next one is a no-brainer and everybody sleeps on it.

2:31You have a form, right? You want people to fill something out. You want them to sign up for a demo. You want them to get a discount code. You want them to buy a product. You want them to join a newsletter, whatever it is. You have a form and you want them to fill out the form. If you add a single line of reassurance text on that form right below the form, it will increase the percentage of people submitting on that form by 18%. What do I mean by that? Okay. Right below that submission area, that button, if it says things like takes under 30 seconds, or we won't sell your info or unsubscribe anytime, whatever it is, that's going to be that, you know, three or four word phrase or sentence that is that trust signal right there, believe it or not, it helps get that person over the edge.

3:26These little things actually matter. Another super small thing that I always like to tell marketers, especially in the email campaigns they're sending out, is you want to think about every link in your email. What a lot of us sleep on is the logo. Doesn't matter if it's a beautiful HTML email, doesn't matter if it's a letter format email, the logo in your email, it'll actually generate one in five clicks on the email that you send out will actually be a click on the logo in your email. So where is the traffic going when someone clicks on that logo? Are they going to your homepage or are they going to the offer page or whatever it is that you're trying to promote?

4:07And the reason you want them going to your offer page, in my opinion, is it's one in five clicks and they're interested in what you're up to? Why would you send them to your homepage? So think about every link in your emails. Along the lines of thinking about every little thing, I know this is the most annoying episode, somewhere you're out walking, driving, doing, you're like, I got to write this down. Or maybe you're like, Jay's a clown. I need to ignore him. And that's probably even more true. But it's a good one to go back to and think about these different tests because there's a lot of them.

4:34Another one is the number of fields that you have on that landing page, that form. Every additional must-fill field, when you tell somebody they have to fill in this field or they can't submit, every additional must-fill field that you ask somebody to give you that information, you lose on average about 9 % of submissions. So it's not that you shouldn't have must-fill fields, but are all the must-fill fields that you are requiring actually critical? Because if they're not, it is the thing that's holding back your performance, which is pretty wild. A few other ones that I think maybe are off people's radar.

5:12Fridays. People think Fridays are bad for certain offers or certain things. As an example, Fridays, having your webinar, if you use webinars as part of your marketing strategy, a lot of brands say, oh, we don't do Fridays. That's a bad day. it is not true. Webinar attendance in the last 12 months on Fridays is up over 75 % year over year. I don't know about you all, but the way that I view Fridays is almost like a day I better myself from a content perspective. I'm consuming more content. I'm attending things. I'm downloading things because my brain's almost already into the week being over and I want to get some good stuff in there.

5:55So if you're not testing Fridays, really it's been ever since COVID that Fridays have become this day to better yourself and think about Fridays for a lot of the stuff out there. A few other ones that I would put into the category of your sleeping on potentially is PS. Adding a PS at the bottom of your emails with a link to the offer crushes it. Repeat the offer, have a link to that offer. We see this increase overall click-throughs by about 14 % just by adding a PS with that offer. And then the last one that I think I'll probably get some hate on, but I don't really care, is on your landing pages, the destination page, the closing argument for your offer, business, consumer, nonprofit, I don't care.

6:40A lot of brands will have their social sharing links, right, on that page, on that landing page. It makes no sense. You got the person to the page where they're going to do the thing. They're going to buy the thing. They're going to subscribe to the thing. They're going to register for the thing. And here you are saying, hey, go check out our Pinterest. Go check out our LinkedIn. No. If you give people the option to leave, they will. But if you don't, they convert. When you remove the social sharing links, the social buttons from your destination page, we see conversion rates rise by over 8%. So I know that that's a lot of all sorts of different nonsense.

7:23Oh, that was a lot. All right, let's get into since you didn't ask, which is the portion of the podcast is absolutely ridiculous. So I was in the mall this past weekend. This is so irrelevant. and um i noticed that every time you walk into a store every tour every store smells ridiculous like i don't understand people first of all i walked into what is it a white barn or was it bath and body works i think they're like the same store now where they sell all the candles all the garbage no offense if you're listening you're out there but like i go in that store and there's so many smells going on in that store and people are buying all this stuff to make, I know these companies do very well with selling all the smelly stuff, but how much smelly stuff are you going to buy and bring into your home?

8:14Does your home smell like a toilet that you're trying to buy this stuff to overcompensate and then like you want it to then smell, everything's got to smell like lavender. What is going on with lavender? Who cares about lavender? But every store I walk into, too. It's like somebody sprayed Axe body spray 4 billion times. Like it's, it's, it's one bad decision after another about how every store has to smell. I can't take it. And then like you walk through like Macy's or one of the department stores, which I always do. Cause the way, uh, the parking works at my mall is you're better off parking like outside of like one of the department stores and walking through the department store.

8:54You have to run like the gauntlet of people with the perfume things and i know that that's a tough job i do but it stinks i don't mean it stinks the job i mean it just smells and it was like smell this smell this smells i'm like what are we doing enough with everybody smelling each other everyone's got to stop smelling each other we need less smells this is what we need we need less smells everybody just whatever your store smells like is fine i am not going to your store because i'm like we got to go there. That store smells so good. We should go there. Anybody that says that is a clown. Okay.

9:30Nobody is coming to your store because it smells good. Now, if your store smells bad, then fix the root problem. Find out why your store stinks. Don't just put garbage on top of garbage. What am I talking about? I don't know. Man, I get worked up. You know what also might smell? My new book. There you go. That's my transition. Hey, my book's coming out in April. You can pre-order it now. All net proceeds are going to the V Foundation for Cancer Research. I wrote this book to kick cancer's butt. You can go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble or wherever you buy your books. It is, you can get Kindle, print, whatever.

10:05You can pre-order it now. Stupider People Have Done It. That's the name of the book. Stupider People Have Done It. I hope you check it out. You're awesome. See you at the next one. Wait, the party is not over. Go to jschwedelson.com because I want to do stuff with you. I want to partner with you. When you click on the button, partner with Jay, you let me know what you got going on. Work with my agency, work with me directly, get access to all of my free resources at jayschwedelson.com. And I got a book coming out this April. It's called Stupider People Have Done It. And all of the net proceeds are going to the V Foundation for Cancer Research.

10:43Go on Amazon, buy Stupider People Have Done It. That way you can help kick cancer's butt with me. And if this podcast wasn't the worst podcast you've ever listened to, it might've been, leave it a review, follow the show. You are awesome. Go out there and crush it.

From the publisher

Tiny tweaks are where the real wins hide, and this one is basically a checklist of easy tests you can run without ripping up your whole marketing stack. Jay Schwedelson pulls rapid-fire insights from billions of emails and thousands of campaigns to show how small layout and UX choices can swing clicks, submissions, and conversions way more than you would expect.

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Best Moments:

(01:45) Left-justified email copy beats center-justified by 12% on click-through

(02:45) Add one reassurance line under a form, and submissions lift by 18%

(03:45) About 1 in 5 email clicks hit your logo, so stop wasting that traffic on the homepage

(04:42) Every extra required form field drops submissions by around 9%

(05:15) Fridays are not dead, webinar attendance is up 75% year over year

(06:45) Remove social buttons from your landing page, and conversions rise by over 8%

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Pre-order Jay Schwedelson’s new book, Stupider People Have Done It (out April 21, 2026). All net proceeds are donated to The V Foundation for Cancer Research—let’s kick cancer’s butt: https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206

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