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Podcast Summary: Do This, NOT That: Marketing Tips with Jay Schwedelson - Episode 478
Episode Overview In this episode, titled “What’s Up THIS WEEK: ChatGPT ADS? LinkedIn News! Marty Supreme - Ughhh 💸”, host Jay Schwedelson discusses recent marketing trends, AI developments, and shares personal insights about a movie he recently watched. The episode highlights various noteworthy news stories affecting the marketing landscape.
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Key Discussions
OpenAI and Pinterest Acquisition Rumors
- Rumor: OpenAI is reportedly considering acquiring Pinterest.
- Reason: Pinterest's vast collection of over 200 billion tagged images is valuable for AI training.
- Impact: Pinterest's stock saw a slight increase following these rumors.
LinkedIn's Rising Influence
- Data Insights:
- Recent findings suggest that LinkedIn is now cited by AI tools like ChatGPT 5 times more than it was a year ago.
- LinkedIn now outranks established platforms like Wikipedia and YouTube as a source for AI citations.
- Effective LinkedIn Post Formula:
- Structure: Posts should focus on one singular problem and present one definitive solution.
- Example Titles:
- “The one reporting change that reduces forecast errors.”
- “Why new hires quit within 90 days.”
- Posts need to be structured to attract citations from AI tools.
ChatGPT Advertising Updates
- New Ads Testing: ChatGPT is beginning to test ads in their platform.
- Current Status: Ads are applicable to the free tier; paying subscribers will not see them.
- Future Implications: As other platforms have transitioned into ad models, ChatGPT is expected to follow suit.
Constant Contact Acquisitions
- Recent Acquisition: Constant Contact has acquired Guru Conference, SubjectLine.com, and Certified Guru from Jay’s company, Guru Media Hub.
- Future Plans: Guru Conference will remain virtual and free.
- Enhancements: Constant Contact will leverage its substantial data to enhance SubjectLine.com and expand the Certified Guru program.
Movie Review
Marty Supreme
- Personal Experience: Jay reviews the movie "Marty Supreme," featuring Timothée Chalamet.
- Critique:
- Negative impressions of the plot and character development.
- Discomfort with the movie's length (2.5 hours).
- New Personal Rule: Will not watch movies longer than 2 hours and 15 minutes in theaters.
Trending TV Shows
- Audience Insight: Jay shares his surprise at the popularity of the reality show “Traitors” among his followers, noting a shift from expectations of shows like "Stranger Things".
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Key Takeaways
- Embrace Behavioral Science: Understanding audience psychology can enhance marketing strategies, particularly on platforms like LinkedIn.
- Adapt to Changes: The potential shift towards ads in AI tools like ChatGPT is an important trend for marketers to keep an eye on.
- Content Structure Matters: Creating content that is concise and targeted can significantly increase visibility and engagement.
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Resources
- Jay’s YouTube Channel: [YouTube Channel](https://www.youtube.com/@schwedelson)
- Jay’s TikTok: [TikTok Account](https://www.tiktok.com/@schwedelson)
- Jay’s Instagram: [Instagram Profile](https://www.instagram.com/jayschwedelson/)
- Book Pre-order: *Stupider People Have Done It* (out April 21, 2026) - [Pre-order here](https://www.amazon.com/Stupider-People-Have-Done-Marketing/dp/1637635206)
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Conclusion This episode of *Do This, NOT That* provides valuable marketing insights alongside engaging personal commentary. Stay tuned for further episodes to continue expanding your marketing knowledge and strategies.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOOpenAI Acquiring Pinterest?
0:45 to 3:30
Discussion on the possibility of OpenAI acquiring Pinterest and its implications.
“where they are seriously considering acquiring Pinterest.”
LinkedIn's Rising Influence
3:30 to 5:00
Exploring LinkedIn's increased citations by AI platforms and its significance.
“So I'll stick with the open AI stuff here for a minute.”
Effective LinkedIn Posting Strategies
5:00 to 8:05
Tips for creating effective LinkedIn posts that attract AI citations.
“otherwise is absolutely full of it all right one other piece of news that's i guess the news i'm involved with just to clear up any confusion that's out there.”
ChatGPT Ads and Future Implications
8:05 to 9:08
Overview of new ads being tested on ChatGPT and their potential impact.
“Um, the other interesting thing about, well, interesting to me, I sent out an email this week, asking people like to my newsletter file, a load of people.”
Constant Contact Acquires Guru Media Hub
9:08 to 9:58
News about Constant Contact's acquisition and what it means for users.
“So they're stupid and fake, and I know that.”
Movie Review: Marty Supreme
9:58 to 10:54
A personal take on the movie 'Marty Supreme' and its length issues.
“We're lining up all sorts of partnerships for this year, all sorts of cool stuff.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Welcome to Do This Not That, the podcast from marketers. We share quick tips, things you can do right now, and then we add a little bit of chaos at the end of every episode. We also keep it short, like this intro. Let's check it out. We are back for what's up this week from the Do This, Not That podcast. This is where we break down what's going on in business and marketing and life, and then we still have our other episodes later in the week, so let's get into it. So, I don't know if you saw this rumor. OpenAI, that's the company that owns ChatGPT. they are reportedly buying acquiring Pinterest.
0:38I saw this in multiple places. I saw it in the Pretty Little Marketer newsletter. I also saw it in this publication called The Information where they are seriously considering acquiring Pinterest. Now, why would that be? Because it's one of the last major social platforms that's kind of independent. That's not part of Meta or Google or whatever. And also it has over 200 billion images that have been tagged, you know, that people have gone in and tagged. So it's a goldmine for AI training. So we'll see if that actually happens, but it's so somewhat real that Pinterest stock actually jumped by 3 % based on the rumors.
1:19So what else is going on? I thought this was super interesting. So data just came out this week from SEMrush and there are actually other sources out there. They're also confirm this as well, that LinkedIn is now becoming one of the most cited sources by all the different AI platforms. This has jumped radically just in the last 60 days. And this is based on SEMrush data where they cited over 230 ,000 prompts across ChatGPT and Gemini and Perplexity and all of it. And according to SEMrush, tools like ChatGPT and Perplexity and the other ones are citing LinkedIn sources 5x more than they were just a year ago.
2:02And what's even wilder is LinkedIn has jumped in terms of a citation source ahead of Wikipedia, ahead of YouTube, Medium, Google, Facebook. So what does that all mean? It doesn't mean that when you write some random posts, now it's going to get pulled into all the AI stuff. But if you are intentional about doing posts a certain way, you will start to get pulled in more as a citation than the post that you're doing and here's what they're looking for what the ai tools are looking for they're looking for longer posts that follow one simple formula it is a singular post that solves one problem with one answer and it's like stupid proof and so basically the you can't be that creative with your hooks anymore you need to have something that literally is the thing so for example the title of your post and the lead on your post could be the one reporting change that reduces forecast errors.
2:58That's it. Or why new hires quit within 90 days? Or why customers ignore your product updates? It is one post, one problem, one answer. And then after that, you define the problem, you give a step-by-step solution to the problem, and then you summarize it. And at the end, you kind of put your source, you put your name, your company, again, you write it all in. You don't just assume it's being pulled from your profile. And this is what's being pulled now by the different AI tools, which I think is really, really interesting, a way for us all to get a lot more traffic on whatever it is that we're trying to push on our company pages, whatever.
3:34So I'll stick with the open AI stuff here for a minute. This is ChatGPT. I don't know if you saw this. It's like the end of the world. But open AI has announced that they are in beta, that they're starting to test ads that you will be able to start running ads on chat gpt you know when they first start out like we're not gonna have ads but you know everybody realizes it's super expensive for these platforms to give away stuff for free and you got 800 million weekly users using chat gpt and they're like we need some money here to pay for this party so what's going on is you can't go on there right now and run an ad nobody can basically and it's really only applying to their free tier.
4:13So if you pay, you know,$20 a month, you're not going to see ads. Although if you do pay for their$8 a month, their go tier, you will see the ads. And basically what's going on is they're going to below the answer to whatever it is that your question was that you wrote on Chachupiti, there's going to be an ad. And this is how it's going to start. Right now they're in beta only in the United States and there are barely any out there. But like everything else, you know at one point facebook didn't have ads at one point google didn't have ads now look at them all right this is just the the tip of the iceberg and eventually uh the free version of chat gpt is going to have ads the same way that google does it's just another area that we are all gonna have to try to figure out how to do marketing it's going to be a whole thing and anybody tells you otherwise is absolutely full of it all right one other piece of news that's i guess the news i'm involved with just to clear up any confusion that's out there.
5:10So pretty big acquisition that just happened this past week. Constant Contact, the incredible platform used by over a half a million small businesses worldwide, this week acquired Guru Conference, subjectline.com and certified guru from my company, Guru Media Hub. Now, what does this mean? What does this doesn't mean? So Guru Conference is going to remain free and virtual and it's going to get bigger than ever. We had almost 30 ,000 people this year. We want to make it bigger than ever. And me and my team are going to continue to run Guru Conference, working with Constant Contact for the next few years.
5:45All the chaos, all the nonsense. So we're not going anywhere. We want to make it even wilder. So you're stuck with me on Guru Conference. And on subjectline.com, I'm really excited that this is going to be in the hands of Constant Contact because they have so much data. I mean, billions of emails going out every month from hundreds of thousands of customers. And they're able to bring all that power now into subjectline.com. So that's going to be pretty awesome. It's going to remain free. And then Certified Guru, which is the fastest growing free email certification program on the planet, you can go to certifiedguru.com.
6:16That's still going to be not, it's not going to be just some sort of thing, just about constant contact or anything like that. No, it's going to remain this incredible certification. It's going to get a lot more juice to it and just get a lot more exposure to allow people to get these free certifications. So I'm excited about it. It's a lot of change, but I think it's good stuff. And let's get into some ridiculous news. All right. So I went and I saw Marty Supreme. Okay. That is the ping pong movie with Timothee Chalamet and everyone's saying it's so great. I got news. Here we go. It wasn't good.
6:50I didn't like it. Oh no, you can't say that. I just said it. Let me tell you why I didn't like it. Number one, I'm not ruining it for anybody. Number one, the character's not a good dude. Bad dude. Didn't like him. Whatever. Number two, him hanging out with Gwyneth Paltrow. Timothy Chalamet and Gwyneth Paltrow. Come on. I can't. Doesn't work for me. I don't know. Just doesn't work for me. But the most important thing is that it's two and a half hours long. Okay. I don't like long movies. It's over. That's the last movie I will ever see that is over two hours and 15 minutes long in a movie theater.
7:27If it's at home, I could hit pause and make it like almost like, you know, a two-part series. I cannot sit there for over two and a half hours in a movie theater. Everything stops working. My butt, my feet, everything stops working. I don't like it. And the problem is I like previews. My wife doesn't like going to the previews, you know, and now there's 400 previews, like, like it's unbelievable how many previews they have. And so now you're sitting there for like easily 20 minutes of previews, right? And then you got to an F hour movie. I can't do it. So it's too long. That's over new rule for my life.
8:03I'm not doing it. I don't care what you say. Um, the other interesting thing about, well, interesting to me, I sent out an email this week, asking people like to my newsletter file, a load of people. I said, Hey, what TV shows are you watching? Reply back and let me know. I was very surprised by what the number one show is that I got so many emails back saying, this is the show that you have to watch that I'm watching. I thought it was going to be people. I thought people were going to be stuck on stranger things. I thought people would be stuck on land, man. I love land, man. I'm all caught up.
8:35It's amazing. Nope. That's not the show. Everyone's watching. Everybody's watching apparently traders, traders. That's the, uh, The reality all-star show, I think it's on Peacock. I'm embarrassed to say something. As everybody here probably knows, I watch horrible TV. I mean, reality TV is my number one. There's no debate about it. I've never seen a season of Traitor. So you say, why? That's like the ultimate reality show. You know, I have a hard time with these all-star versions of reality shows. Because reality shows in general really aren't real. So they're stupid and fake, and I know that.
9:12but they're slightly feel like they're real but the all-star versions are like definitely nothing is real it's ridiculous so i do feel like i have to watch it i feel like i have a moral obligation to watch traders so i will report back but if you're thinking about going to see marty supreme watch it at home that is a home not in theater i don't care what you said you know you go see the theater you go see like like jurassic park or if you or something like that some big thing with a lot of action or the new Steven Spielberg movie that's going to come out, Disclosure Day. Great. Go see that in the theater.
9:45Do not see a ping pong movie in the theater. What are we doing? And I turned to my wife afterwards. I go, did that make you want to play ping pong more? And she goes, what is wrong with you? Absolutely not. Anyway, that's what's going on with me. Hey, hit me up at jayschwedelson.com. We're lining up all sorts of partnerships for this year, all sorts of cool stuff. I don't know. Let's go hang out. Have a great day. Later. Wait, the party is not over. Go to jayschwedelson.com because I want to do stuff with you. I want to partner with you. When you click on the button, partner with Jay, you let me know what you got going on.
10:20Work with my agency, work with me directly, get access to all of my free resources at jayschwedelson.com. And I got a book coming out this April. It's called Stupider People Have Done It. And all of the net proceeds are going to the V Foundation for Cancer Research. Go on Amazon, buy stupider people have done it. That way you can help kick cancer's butt with me. And if this podcast wasn't the worst podcast you've ever listened to, it might've been, leave it a review, follow the show. You are awesome. Go out there and crush it.
From the publisher
AI rumors are getting weirdly specific this week, and the ripple effects are already showing up in places you probably are not watching closely enough. Along the way, Jay Schwedelson connects the dots between LinkedIn suddenly becoming an AI citation machine, ChatGPT testing ads, and a major Constant Contact acquisition that hits close to home. Then it takes a sharp turn into a very firm new rule about movie runtimes and the reality show everyone is apparently addicted to.
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Best Moments:
(00:30) The rumor that OpenAI is eyeing Pinterest and why tagged images are the real prize
(01:19) LinkedIn is getting cited by AI tools 5x more and now outranking Wikipedia and YouTube
(02:33) The simple LinkedIn post formula that actually gets pulled into AI citations
(03:45) ChatGPT ads are being tested in the US, and what the rollout might look like
(05:04) Constant Contact acquired Guru Conference, SubjectLine.com, and Certified Gur,u and what changes (and what does not)
(06:42) Marty Supreme review plus the new hard cutoff for movie theater runtime
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