Eddy de Pretto, grand coeur atypique

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2:28The guest that I receive today is a singer, composer, actor also. It's a artist who I love particularly because he gives me the feeling of transforming the intimate and the doubts in artistic and creative. I met for the first time at the Diner de la Mode, I was called to the Action, and I thought, oh, it's stylized, then it's a look at a l 'aise, and then it's a riz and a talk. He doesn't look at a person, at the point that listening to his music or listening to his music, we want to cultivate our own singularity. I'm very happy to receive Eddie Depreto. Thank you. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure.

2:58It's true. It's a little bit of frisson. A little bit of frisson. A little bit of frisson in the ear. A little bit of ear. It's true. I'm an impression that I would be totally anesthesiated to this area. Yeah. You don't have any frisson in the ear. I have a little bit of frisson if we speak in the ear or if we're susurring things. They're like that. You could make an ASMR. I don't do it at all. I don't listen to your ears. I'm looking at your ears. They're extremely cute. It's true. Thanks. You have a complex. You have a complex. I have a complex. It's you who has jumped. It's you who has gone.

3:40Yes, I have a complex, obviously. Like everyone. Yes, but the difference is that I have the impression that you have to get everything. Ah, yeah. It's the appearance. We're in the theme. We are in the theme. Yes, I have things which are the most complex. What is the most complex? I think it was my color of skin. Which I found was a lot too pale. Ah, really? I was a lot of that. Ah, yeah? So you did a phase autobronzant, a little bit of light? Exposition fatale to light. A lot of light. There are many years to bronzer. With the sans -écran total ? With the beginning of a song. Sans -écran total.

4:27Yes, I did 30 % with the cream which makes bronzer a little bit. A little grass at raire ? Oui. Ah oui. But now I'm back and I'm going to go much better with that. But you're not so pale. Listen, I have to tell you that I have the impression that my epidermes change with the time. It's possible. It's possible. it evolved towards a more rose, rosy. Ah, yeah? Rosy-rougie. Not as rouge as that, but a little rosy. Do you not find a little rosy? I think you have really this thing where people who come to do love, so who would be a good love, so who would be a good blush, so who would be in good shape.

5:14You have a good skin, you have a good skin. joues, mais je ne te dirais pas que t 'es rose. J 'ai un peu triché quand même. T 'as un peu triché ? Ouais. Mais tu vois par exemple, t 'as maquillé tes oreilles ? Peut -être. Parce que je trouve que ça se voit que t 'as pas de rougeur. Très bien. T 'as pas l 'air d 'être quelqu 'un qui souffre de rosacé par exemple ? Ah non, pas du tout. Ah bon, soyons clairs. Merci de prendre ça au sérieux. Mais je respecte beaucoup les gens qui ont de la rosacée. Moi aussi. Ouais, parce que c 'est pas facile. C 'est pas facile et en même temps je trouve qu 'on dénigre un peu trop.

5:45En fait, bon, because there is a rosacee and sometimes people think that the rosacee is also the coupe rose because there is a coupe rose for people who have trop been is it we can call it a rosacee when you have 75 years and you are alcohol and you say you have to do the rosacee it's not bad it's a other issue it's a coupe rose yeah it's a coupe rose but so, chirurgic esthétique if you could, you said you would have changed your skin color of skin yeah, maybe I would have changed my epidermes my pigmentation you would have made UV Yes, but it's not good for the UV. Not at all. It's Kylie Jenner who said that recently, when it doesn't go, I'll do a spritan and I'll do better.

6:24Yes, but it's a spritan autobronzant. When it doesn't go, I'll do a spritan. It's super. It's also a pain mental. It can change. It can change all the morals, I think. But on voit qu 'elle a done spritan, because the only time I used it was in the 90-2000, it was in the 90-2000, it was in the champignons, it was in the oxyder, it was in the cuir. 90, you were already in the auto-bronzo? I was only in the 90s. Not 90, because I had 7 years. 98, during the Coupe du Monde. You were doing the spray tan? You were doing the match? I was doing the spray tan. Chez Pizzapino. In spray tan. Orange. They were doing...

7:07They were doing... They were doing it, I think. Yes, but I think it's a lot better. Yeah, it's not that. It's not that you can even put a bottle of water in your cream hydratant. And that little to little. But it's a thing. Potentially, I think it's something that's going to come. It's something that's going to go. It's not like a makeup. But there's a thing that I find a little bit. You make a color, for example, or not? No, not a color. I don't do anything. I was doing a platinum, I guess. I was testing. Yeah, platinum, yeah. Coloration. Décoloration, oui. Mais je n 'ai pas gardé. Et puis ça abîme grave les cheveux.

7:46Et ça, parfois, peut abîmer le crâne. J 'en parle parce que mon ami et mon régisseur s 'est fait une décoloration. Je ne sais pas si on va poursuivre le salon, mais attention à vous. Et ils lui ont mis une décoloration qui fait qu 'il a eu le crâne brûlé. Là, il est dans la... Si tu veux nous montrer ton crâne à la caméra pour qu 'on ait des preuves dans le pauvre. Mais il a vraiment eu des croûtes, quoi. Ah ouais ? Ouais. Moi, je ne me décolore que la moustache. Mais on ne me dit pas ouais, like if it was going to see. No, but I'm not sure that mustache, she's not... No, no, I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure that's electric.

8:16Ah, yeah, d 'accord. You don't have a mustache? No. But once I've dreamed that I had a... To, you hold a mustache. To, you have a mustache. It's a little bit your signature, your mustache? Ecoute, it's pretty recent. It's for this new era that I wanted to put in front this mustache which is existent. So, you can take it. Yeah. Yeah, it's a nice. And you've changed the hair. de cheveux. Aussi, ouais. J 'aime beaucoup. Merci. On fait un grand travail avec Alex qui m 'aide. Alex, ton coiffeur. Ah oui, exactement. Il donne des conseils. Ça t 'aide ? Tu aimes avoir des gens qui s 'occupent de toi ?

8:51Bah, écoute, je ne vais pas mentir. Oui, ça me fait plaisir. En fait, c 'est une histoire de confiance. Je pense que j 'étais un jeune ado qui avait peu de confiance en lui. Et ce métier m 'a aidé aussi à en gagner énormément. I think that to realize it helps a lot to feel better, to accept it. And so when you can put people around you who help you to help you, it's something that has helped me. But the people around you, do you have a idea of what you want and they help you to realize it? Or do you have no notion, no doubt about what you want, no notion of what you want, what you don't want and you're like, I'm going to give you a gift?

9:32No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm quite a control. You know what you like, what you like. I'm a chance. We send a lot of images that we find on the right, on the right, on the right, on the social media. For example, when there are some shoes that I like, I send them to. But do you make a difference between the shoes that you like and the person who wears the shoes that you like? Yeah, but after, we try, you know. But I try to see things that are rather well. And then we do tests, you know, it's a lot of evolution. And then when you're an adult, you say that you're not necessarily in my own, but you're already in your own?

10:10Well, I'm not in my own, but I'm not in my own, but I'm not in my own, I'm not in my own, but I'm not in my own, but I was not in my own, I was not in my own, but it's just that I didn't feel too at my own, with my body, also with my sexual identity, my orientation, which was also a real subject at the time of the college and the school. and so all that, it had to really yeah to make a a lot of faces, it's a thing? I don't know, but I think we can... The way a little, we put a mask, we played a lot, I put a mask, I put a mask, I put a mask, I put a mask, I put a mask, but in any case, I played a mort and I played a role a role for making a look at being in my skin, but I was not at all.

10:57I was already at all, very quickly. Ah ouais ? Très vite, tu comprends. Enfin, en tout cas, j 'avais une très grande lecture du monde qui m 'entourait. Donc, je savais que si je voulais être un minimum validé, il fallait que je joue les cartes. C 'était quoi ton style ? Putain, je suis passé par tous les styles. Ouais. Je suis passé par millions de styles. Je suis passé par le côté rock pendant les bébés brunes, tu sais. Avec des petits slims et des chaussures pentues. Exactly Ça, ça donne toujours des corps de merde, surtout aux mecs, je trouve On adorait, avec notre veste en sky, tu vois On adorait ça, et puis nos coupes longues et tout Genre c 'était vraiment cette époque-là Après, il y avait la tectonique Tectonique, Vincent Lacoste me disait qu 'il avait eu aussi un petit look tectonique Mais tectonique, je n 'arrive pas bien à identifier le look Genre je vois la Corée, mais je ne vois pas le look Tectonique, c 'est fluo, c 'est rasé sur les côtés with a little bit of a pic there.

11:57But on the side, on the rasage, there were also the shapes that they were doing. And then, there were a lot of shirts with a lot of colors, very close to the body. There were also a slim, a lot of shoes. We were going to pass by there. But you were a little popular, you were a little... Not at all. I think that I was the glee. The rigolo, which can work a little bit in all groups. But I was not at the populace, because the populace, it was the people who had a strong aura, who were able to assume. It was really that the populace. In fact, in the college, in the populace, it's just like, in the beaux.

12:40The beaux, those who have all the meufs. Yeah, so often the beaux or the toxic. and then the way the way cool who knows who have a aura I'm sure you were not not at all but I was not at all at all there were a lot of in the court I love but I was not there mid I was a little like that, inaperçu, quite discret. I was a lot of girls who were entourated. I was a lot of girls who were entourated. Because I thought I felt a lot more at ease. And I was less moqued compared to guys who didn't find in the good code of men. But kind of the virility, what did we expect in these years? And maybe what we're still doing.

13:39Carrément. Carrément. de ce qu 'est être un garçon quand on est au collège-lycée. Carrément, on attend un certain code que moi, je n 'avais pas, naturellement. Et c 'était OK, mais c 'était difficile du coup d 'être intégré dans ces groupes-là. Mais c 'est quoi ces codes de mecs ? Qu 'est-ce qui est attendu ? C 'est quoi ? C 'est du muscle et du... Non, c 'est une manière de se présenter au monde, je pense. Une assurance, un côté un peu bagarreur. Je suis prêt à me bagarrer s 'il y a un problème. I play football, I play ballad a little everyone. It's that the code. I have a large part of the people who are going to be able to get people to get people to get people.

14:23It was that a bit. A bit of a messian state. Yeah, which dominated a little bit at school. But you've been living in the school too, I imagine. I've been living in the years where we wanted to exist in the eyes of the people. We wanted to be good and not be beautiful. I think that all our sexuality, I say our, in all of a mian, but my passage of the of the woman was defined only by the men and that these men by ailleurs we notaient they were doing they were doing they were doing they were doing they were doing and that I think that if a man was found I was feeling extremely flat it was a thing but you were trained to get the popular I don't know I was not at the popular because I was a little I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know but it's a moment because sometimes I want to talk I was talking to people of this time because I was not at all reading who I was.

15:16I was in a moment of my life who was extremely complicated family, all that and all. And so, you know, sometimes you have a souvenir of yours where people say, well, no, it's not true, it's not at all like that. We were not at all like that. I was not at all because... I think I was at all about a little bit popular because I was a little bit of a girl. And that the only thing that I was interested in was to play. So I gave up the change. but I was not necessarily the popular woman who had the little friends it was more transgressive and more complicated I had a reputation which was on me so reputation genre you know if she's couched she's suce she's a truc and all it's crazy and in fact it's a moment in our lives I think it's a so much it's a place bizarrely I think it's not that on your sexuality it's a kind of impression of being a sort of and for little and it was the case I didn't have the family I didn't have my father my wife everything all a dysfonctioned so at a time you have the impression of not being part of the children of good family and you feel that the look that's not just she's a precoce sexuel and why not, it's like a a little...

16:38You have an impression of being a pouf, in fact. Yeah, but what's funny about our two discours, if we zoom a little bit, it's that there's a little bit of validation of these gala. Toi, like me, we had a certain validation in the court of these gala, which were a little in the ceremony. It was a little bit of them who had the domination of the moment, and so So, all the rules were made by these guys. And I think it's crazy. For Yann Omon, I would return. Yeah, I don't know. To not. Yeah, but I have the impression that, when you were able to play, you said that you were made by these people who dominated, you said that you were aware of the rules.

17:26Total. Total, totalement conscience que je vais devoir en jouer justement et que pour me sortir de ça, il va falloir que je trouve moi ma différence. Et justement, là, tu parlais un peu au début de comment s 'affranchir de nos problématiques et de nos différences. Ça a fait partie de moi, ma sortie de secours. Il faut à tout prix que je sorte de ce milieu. Il faut à tout prix que je puisse faire mes règles à moi. Et ça, c 'est à quel âge ? Oui, c 'est ça. C 'est donc très jeune, tu t 'y mets ? music, the theater too. I've done a lot of things like that. So it's helped me find a another world who accepted and who wanted to play other games than the supremacist of the recreatment.

18:10And in your family or in your education, there was not this pressure of being able to be a guy, being a guy, being a guy, being a guy, and everything. My father was a bit of a subject of sport and au sujet d 'être un homme. Ma mère, un peu moins, mais c 'était par l 'autorité, plutôt, peut -être. Et donc, on va dire que ce n 'était pas des alliés à mon éducation. Je ne me suis pas senti, comment dire, épaulé dans toutes mes problématiques que je pouvais traverser en tant que jeune adolescent, tu vois. C 'est pour ça qu 'il y a un truc un peu dans cette extrême solitude de pouvoir un peu se chercher, se trouver, et ensuite faire son chemin sans compter forcément on the people who do not count on nature.

18:56And this journey, you have made with my best friends and allies, or you have the feeling that it was really like an introspection and an personal thing in which you... I have friends, who have a lot of help. Beaucoup, beaucoup. And I think that it's the family that I have made of choice, that I have chosen precisely, and that they have been able to build and develop the person that I am today. And you remember your first scene, publics, really, the moment where you feel that it's your job, that it's your job, that you're going to live. It's going to be that at a moment. I was doing a lot of small scenes right-hand, right-hand, right-hand, Paris.

19:34And the three models, the pop-up label, the stuff too small, 300 places. And at a moment, I was telling you, if it doesn't step up, it's that I stop. And you would have done what? Good question. C 'est qu 'au fond de toi, tu savais que ça allait. Oui, je n 'avais pas forcément d 'autre plan. Mais je savais qu 'à un moment, j 'avais une petite musique dans ma tête qui me disait que ça allait à un moment payer. Et donc à un moment, j 'ai joué au Trois Bodets et c 'est là que j 'ai rencontré des équipes qui m 'ont accompagné énormément après. Et tu avais genre un look de scène, une tenue de scène, un truc ?

20:11Alors, c 'était affreux. C 'était affreux. J 'avais une espèce un peu de coupe au bol. blonde, avec des coles roulés, jusqu 'ici, noir, habillé tout en noir. Ouais, c 'était pas évident les débuts. Et j 'avais un espèce d 'EP que j 'avais autoproduit à l 'époque, une espèce de démo. Comment on regarde, écoute, j 'ai entendu un P. J 'avais un espèce d 'EP. Non, un EP. J 'avais le sorti, une première maquette, avec mes chansons, tu vois, que j 'avais autoproduit tout seul, et c 'était vraiment une DA, une DA rocambolesque, je dirais. But when you look at it today, you look at it with a tenderness or you don't want to see it?

20:50Yes, with a lot of tenderness. It's going to take 10 years. Yes, but you know, sometimes we see things on and we feel like we're feeling like, ah, how I can't be. Yes, but I think it's beautiful to be able to be able to pass it. You might have said that maybe it's six years ago, I might not have liked it at all. But today I have a certain recul on the person that I was before, how I did for passing the steps. on evolve, on est influencé par d 'autres gens qui nous nourrissent énormément et je pense que c 'est toute une vie pour moi est là-dessus un peu, c 'est apprendre à se connaître, savoir qui on est, si un jour on le sait finalement et donc on passe par énormément d 'étapes pour un peu mieux se connaître profondément.

21:38Et là, tu es en tournée en ce moment, enfin tu vas être en tournée toute l 'automne ? Bientôt, bientôt, l 'année next. Raconte un peu la tournée. L 'année prochaine, ça veut dire en... En 2027. Oui, c 'est ça. J 'ai annoncé la tournée. Écoute, c 'est trop cool. C 'est une tournée Zenith Arena. Donc, il y a quand même 27, 30 dates, un truc comme ça. Donc, un encore Arena encore. Ah là là, bravo. Le deuxième de ma vie. Trop excitant. Oui, je suis trop content. Et puis, c 'est mon moment préféré parce que justement, là, il y a un côté hyper libérateur. Il y a un côté genre être soi à fond, tu vois.

22:10the freedom of being so, it's really, for me, the most important thing on stage. And so, we're in order to prepare that with a lot of dancers this time. And musicians too. And that, it's also prepared physically as a athlete to say, OK, it's got to get a gaffe. Moi, the sport has literally changed my mindset, but my way of living, my way of being, my mental. Before, I could be perhaps a little bit more instable vis -à-vis de ma façon de me sentir. Et maintenant, avec le sport, j 'ai quand même une certaine accalmie, quelque chose de plus doux, en tout cas dans ma gestion de moi. Et je pense que le sport me régule énormément.

22:55Quel sport ? Je fais de la boxe, je fais de la musculation, du renforcement. J 'adore le muscu. Ah ouais ? Tu fais de la muscu, toi ? Ouais, j 'adore. Tous les jours ? Trois fois par semaine. Quand même ! Ah ouais, je te vois bien. Mais c 'est nouveau, ça fait genre six mois, mais j 'adore ça. J 'ai une image du toi un peu débloquée. Ah, six mois, ah oui ! Ça fait six mois que j 'en fais, c 'est pas beaucoup ? Ah ouais, c 'est nouveau. Ouais, c 'est nouveau, mais j 'adore ça, en fait. Je ne pensais pas que j 'adorais ça. Enfin, c 'est génial. Ouais, j 'adore. Il y a un truc très addictif à l 'idée...

23:26Déjà, ça aide beaucoup le mental, et aussi physiquement, ça donne beaucoup de confiance en soi, de se sentir passer des étapes. Il y a un truc très... Progressé, ouais. Et progressif, etc. Ouais, c 'est génial. But then when you're in tour, question débile, because you're going to tell me you're all about it, but you're in tour bus? You're always? I think it's a weird thing that you're doing. But you don't have any fear of transport? Not at all. So you're in the carter, you're there, you're in the carter, you're in the carter, you're in the carter. They're not all Michel. Jean-Michel, sometimes.

23:56Yeah, I'm the Christian. But in all of a sudden, there's something that I'm going to burst enormously. I don't know if you remember when you were little, when you were in the car of your parents. No. No. I had a Renault who spoke. Porte arrière-gauche mal fermée, l 'enfer. I was sleeping systemically. The night, at 10 minutes of car, I was sleeping. And it was a lot of sleep. So I love to be in the tourbus to sleep. And then I'm sitting there. And then there's no one who exists. And so you have a routine. Because it's in the car? You have a day off? Yeah, it's in the car. And you do sport during the tour?

24:36Yeah, all the time. We have a place, a place of sports. Yeah, it's a tour bus. I know there are also humorists who do tournées of Zenith and who take a tour bus, but I think I know. You don't take a tour bus? No, I don't take a tour bus, but I don't like the train. I prefer... Plus ecolo? Plus ecolo, and then I have no confidence. I have no confidence. I'm going to spend my time with him, to not sleep, to ask if he's not fatigued, if he doesn't want to take a coffee, if he doesn't want to rest. I'm afraid, in fact. So it doesn't work. Difficile to give the trust to the other? In general? No, it's me who interview me.

25:10I'm going to give my therapy. But yeah, it's difficult. Ah, okay. And I give it to a few people. But by the way, I give it to my life. It's what your sign? Taureau and you? I was going to say taureau. Taureau, pareil. Ah, yeah? And your ascendant? Sagittaire. But it's exactly that. The definition of taureau is a lot of difficulty to give the trust to the other. and when you give it, it's for life. Ah ouais ? J 'adore ! But you're branching... I'm branching, yeah. I have a bit of... I have a bit of a base, yeah. And you know, you're reading the lines of the hand? You want to read the lines of the hand?

25:44If you don't say anything, I'd love it. I can't say anything. Ah, but no. For the divertissement. Just for the audience. Just for the divertissement. You're going to have a voice and all, toi ? Not at all. Toi, oui ? I stopped to go from the moment where I was a mère, because it was a very weird thing. Eh bien, it was very exciting for a taureau, ça. Ah bon ? How about that ? Because we're quite encased, we're in the real. You have to have an ascendant who's much more... I'm a ascendant taureau. Ah, so it's an end. So you're nothing? You're nothing. You're nothing. You're a very concrete person?

26:15Ah, we're very encased. The taureau, often, it's very terre-to-terre. There's a thing a bit... In all of a, I know that I'm someone who doesn't like the bullshit. Ah, I don't know. But are you thinking about the fantômes? I don't know what they're saying. Yes, yes, it's going to happen like that. Ah ah ah ah ! Pas du tout. Pas du tout les gris-gris ? T 'es pas du tout superstitieux ? Ça va se passer peut -être comme ça. Non, non, non. Le réel, pour moi, est très concret. Et j 'ai besoin qu 'on me parle en français. Le français de Molière. Mais superstitieux ? Et une petite part d 'irrationalité quand même ?

26:44Pas du tout. Pas irrationnel du tout. Aucune superstition avant de monter sur scène ? Euh... Si, je... Je me... Alors ? Alors ! Je me... Je fais des vocalises. I'm sure you're lying You've been improvised I see you You've been improvised There's a lot more twisted There's a lot more twisted No, not at all I've got seven hair I've got them I've got them I've got them I've got them No, really I'm really chill Just my chauffeur And I'm good

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28:06En tout cas, j 'y travaille quand même. J 'y travaille tous les jours à ça. C 'est hyper important pour moi. Avec un psychiatre ? Oui. J 'ai beaucoup fait de suivis thérapeutiques. Mais par exemple, tu es contre les médecines holistiques. Moi, en fait, ça ne résonne pas tant que ça dès que ça suppute. J 'adore ce mot. Supputer Il sonne comme ce que c 'est en plus je trouve Arrête de supputer Arrête de supputer un peu s 'il te plaît Mais

28:41Marchand de rêve J 'y crois pas en fait Je sais pas comment dire Non mais t 'as raison Les trucs qui sont un peu basés Après tu vas me dire l 'astrologie C 'est pas hyper fiable Mais l 'astrologie ça me fait rire en fait En vrai c 'est un peu du small talk you know, a little more interesting than the small talk that's all, that's all, yeah you're out of a new thing, you know what I mean alors que t 'es quel sign, there on can't creuser a little bit on the personnalistic no, no, no, no, no, because you really, I love you because we already have a lot of rites ensemble, all that, all that but if I have to be totally honest, if I meet someone in a night, in a night, in a kitchen, in a night, or something, and that the small talk, it's who comes to me talk about his sign or his name, I leave.

29:21Ah, yeah ah, putain, you're not a problem you're not a problem. You've done a small talk? In fact, no. But the problem is that I have a tendency to want to go very fast in the intime. So that's not me interested. It's a typology of genre, it's also. Well, it's a malade mento, no? No, I don't know. I don't even know how to stay in... In surface. No. Or, it's a drink. And I don't drink. I don't drink or drink. Putain. You drink? Plus. Well, you know, how long? One week. Ah, well, well... The time that it's broadcast, it's a review. I would not like to say that. I would not like to say that. But it's a decision.

29:59Bravo. You can't even see what you want to do. No, but you can't do a pause. It's very good. I think it's very simple to say that. You know, to know a little bit who influences you in the first in the mode, who drives you. Exactly. It's good to make sure that you can do it. I think it's too good. Reprendre un peu de contrôle. Je trouve ça trop bien. Et donc, dans ton tourbuste, tu as une tenue de scène, là, pour ta prochaine tournée et tout ? Tenue de scène. Écoute, on est en train de préparer ça, là. On vient d 'annoncer, donc c 'est très nouveau. Mais oui, il y a des tenues de scène. J 'ai envie d 'un truc très...

30:35un peu... retourner au côté un peu théâtral de la scène, un peu genre... très rideau rouge, un peu le côté un peu très emblématique de ce qu 'est la scène. Et donc, il y a quelque chose de très organique aussi, with dancers, because I talk a lot of solitude in my songs and I wanted to put it a little in the center, the fact that I'm alone but entouré with a lot of people. And so, the dancers will come to play a little role of society like that, who will entour and, chaleureusement, me feel paradoxically hyper seul. And this solitude that you talk about, it's a solitude that you feel how daily?

31:10What you feel about what? What about the world? What about the actuality? What about the social media? l 'individualité je pense qu 'il y a tellement aujourd 'hui d 'informations tellement de façons de communiquer d 'être avec l 'autre il y a tellement de pouvoir d 'être ensemble que bizarrement on se sent énormément seul à notre endroit vis -à-vis de tout ce qui nous entoure je ne sais pas si tu ressens un peu ça et donc il y a un peu ce truc de on vit tous un peu les mêmes choses enfin à plus ou moins grande échelle évidemment but no one knows how for example, the ecology, how to get out the IA, how to get out the politics, how to get out there, there's a thing a little like that, very, very in tension and there-dedans, I think that, profoundly, every human being can feel a lot of solitude in this thing of a community in fact.

32:05And I rebonded there-dessus for making a link with the social media, you have a rapport to that? It's toxic, like a lot of people. You said balance, but it's one of the issues that is still today very difficult to be able to get. You would like to have a global bug and no more social media? No, I wouldn't like that. I think it's necessary to do it with it, but I think it's necessary to find out how to do it with it. And I think that the people who create that should, for me, be able to come back for a bit more toxic and nauseous compared to us, the human. I was telling you, women, we had this kind of tendency, and I think that on social media, every time I look the reel or the thing of a colleague or an employee or an employee or an employee, I think that we have a lot of faith to believe that we could not be many, that there was no place for everyone to be concurrent, to be a good thing, I don't know what.

33:07I can still, even if I try de déconstruire ça, être parfois jalouse ou me sentir menacée par le succès d 'une autre femme. Tu as le sentiment que toi, entre hommes, vous avez cette concurrence, vous avez ce truc de vous regarder, d 'avoir peur de l 'autre et tout, ou moins ? Je pense que c 'est un truc qui se crée par l 'industrie aussi beaucoup, tu vois. Les chiffres, c 'est quoi un succès ? Est-ce que t 'es dans le top 1 ? Est-ce que t 'es dans le top 3 ? Est-ce que tu streames assez ? Donc ça, c 'est beaucoup ce qui nous fait nous comparer, je pense. Après, en termes de profil, I have the chance, and frankly, I'm happy to be a little compared to the stories that I tell, to how I tell.

33:50I think that the people who follow me know also what they come to look for at me, how I tell and who I am. You know what I mean? It's not interchangeable with other people today in the French country. Clearly not. Yes, it's unique. But beyond that, it's a thing that I'm going to be a surprise. to be able to cultivate this singularity like you said at the beginning after obviously we're all on the numbers and that's the streams the numbers, that's something that's what they don't take into account this difference yes but I have the feeling but I can't get me wrong I have to tend to be compared to women like if it was them who menaced more than women if you look at the streams it's going to be of all the artists or you can also compare it?

34:37Yeah, it's really all the artists. It's really all the artists. You look at where you are, you have always a look, a look, a look, a look personal on whether it is to change something. But in fact, it's also a question to be removed in question, I think, when I see things in any case, where I'm a bit upset, where I thought it would be more, or, for example, the billetery which is always in the vente, it's always stress because you tell me is that it's going to start, how it's going to start. So, in fact, So, we are, for sure, we are a little bit of these rules. Because... The billet, it will be how long?

35:12It's true, I can say, you can find it there. Maybe there will be more place when it comes to it. In this case, you will be there. But if you can find it there. It will be there. But the idea, it's always the course to that. And I think it's crazy, for example, that on Spotify, or even on YouTube, there are the numbers of the listeners. I think that influence a lot of the audience who does not like it or not. For those who don't like it or not, for example, have a style of music or who say, I listen to a little bit of everything. There's a validation of the numbers. But you don't think that the answer to that, pardon, I'm going to interrupt you, vas-y.

35:49Non, but vas-y, vas-y. You don't think that the answer to that, it's the people who, when they... Well, it's true, you do it. And I sometimes I say to the people who, when they make a post or a reel or a thing, they catch the number of likes. Oui, oui, oui. That's a lot of things. legitimité au poste. Ça donne une validation à aimer ou pas. Ça donne un encouragement, comme si le groupe, la quantité venait faire de la qualité. Mais on est vachement là-dedans, donc on est tous un peu soumis à ça, évidemment. Mais au-delà de ça, parfois, il faut aussi réussir à, je pense, à dézoomer un peu, tu vois.

36:23Mais c 'est pas évident et c 'est pour ça que c 'est hyper toxique, parce qu 'on est tous là à regarder les chiffres, à se dire, ah là, il y a moins de chiffres, pourquoi ? À comprendre des trucs qui ont plus ne sont même pas de notes faites parfois tu vois, l 'algorithme aujourd 'hui par exemple moi en tant qu 'artiste en auteur donc du coup qui fait des chansons qui fait des visuels, qui fait des clips et tout, toutes les choses produites ne sont pas du tout poussées par l 'algorithme et ce qui va être poussé par l 'algorithme c 'est de la blague quand je fais l 'influenceur entre guillemets de faire des conneries pour faire pour nourrir l 'algorithme et là ça pousse tu vois, ou alors la chose que j 'ai trouvée moi personnellement entre deux c 'est faire des covers là il y a un truc où ça me respecte un peu dans le sens où j 'ai l 'impression de faire mon métier exactement je fais de la musique mais je fais de la musique des autres à ma manière donc du coup là ça a riche pas mal et c 'est poussé mais il a fallu comprendre ça et ça c 'est un jeu qui va changer peut -être dans six mois dans six mois peut -être l 'algorithme il ne pousse plus ça enfin tu vois il y a tout un travail dans le réel comme ça qui est pour nous en tout cas en tant que producteur et auteur qui est bien réel de jouer avec ça.

37:36Oui, mais là où tu as complètement raison et qui est vraiment le piège dans lequel ne pas entrer, c 'est que tu dis, moi, mon truc que j 'ai trouvé, c 'est de faire des covers et tout, c 'est qu 'en effet, tu fais l 'essence de ton métier. Et moi, c 'est pareil, c 'est le même truc. Je ne veux pas me filmer comme ça en direct des conneries. Donc, moi, ma solution, par exemple, ça a été de poster des impros, que les gens te voient dans ton métier et que faire ce que tu fais, en fait, ce que tu sais faire. Parce que sinon, c 'est assez effrayant. Et je disais en début, en intro, qu 'on s 'était rencontrés tous les deux.

37:59I think it was that the first time you met at the show at the show, at the show, on the table Kenzo. It seems that it's that. It's funny because this evening I met also the Marine of the Star Academy. Ah yeah ? And I wrote songs for her after that. Ah, it's not true. But you know... Quelle soirée, du coup. Quelle soirée. Belle soirée. Si, on s 'est amusés, non ? Oui, on s 'est amusés. It's always a bit delicate when you're with people with who you have nothing to say. or there, heureusement, on avait... On a bien parlé. I don't remember what there was. There were others at our table. I don't remember.

38:32Okay. On ne dira pas les noms, peut -être. Non, non. Enfin, peut -être, je me souviens. Peut -être, je vais couper ce moment. Ouais. Ouais, il faut couper ce moment. Peut -être, ouais. Peut -être rien du tout. Mais donc, du coup, moi, j 'ai toujours... Enfin, j 'ai senti à ce moment-là que tu étais dans ton élément. Peut -être que tu l 'es, peut -être que tu ne l 'étais pas, je ne sais pas. Mais tu as quand même un rapport à la mode qui est hyper pointu. I think You go to a tour of the tour It's true It's true It's true to go to a tour of the tour Yes Yes Yes I love I love the mod There are things That I love a lot There are companies that I love a lot That I love a lot That they have a lot of help A lot of moments of my career with whom we have real stories.

39:22I think for example, Ami with Alexander Machusi who has released the song of my first album during a tour in 2017. And it's true that it opened the doors for me, for my profile in any case, to this universe of the mode which was completely unknown at the base. Is this universe of the mode, when you're integrated, it's flat, Lego? Listen, it's like everything. it's a double tranchant, in fact. It can flatter, of course, because you're invited, because you're front row, because you're really feeling a little in things that are in all cases, which are agréable to live, how you receive. And then, there's also this part of how to say, of preparation, of stress, of sortie of carcass, of paraître, which, for me, is a little too intense.

40:20Because, just like, we talked a little bit of a personnalistic a little more concrete and all. It's true that for me, to play this game, it's a lot of energy. And so, I play really with with with with with because it's something that it's a lot of it's a lot of the engagement psychological that I have to make for just to be to be to be to be to be You know, it's a look at the end of the day. It's very okay. And it's a pleasure, in fact, that you tell me that you're very good with it. Because it's a lot, I think, a lot of... But it's something that's hard. Because in fact, it's all of a sudden, when you play the game, it's not only the appearance.

41:05It's very hard, I think. It's that. It's that we don't talk a little to these places. It's very little time also. So there's a thing very furtive de représentation qui te demande d 'être parfait à un moment T et de donner le meilleur de toi, la meilleure photogénie, la meilleure vibe. Il y a un truc un peu stressant là-dedans. Tu les regardes après tes photos sur Getty, sur Truc, sur les banques d 'images ? Je vais rarement sur Getty Images parce que souvent c 'est... Tu as raison, c 'est bon pour la santé mentale de ne pas y aller. Moi du coup j 'y vais histoire de... Non, je n 'y vais pas sur Getty, mais après oui, je valide les photos que je dois publier.

41:43But you're not going to make a deprive because you've seen a photo raté and make sure you're going to suppress it and I don't know what you're going to do? There's a photo that I've been very much worth. In addition, it's crazy because it was at Chanel in 2018. And we were at Grand Palais, so I arrived. And I don't know why, there's a photo that was released from this shoot and that was apparue after all in my research. It's the chasm. But like, the first time, you tap on Eddie De Preto on Google and you tap on, you tap on this fucking photo. And you were like, but it's not possible. I can't...

42:28Continue to live. Continue to live. So I did everything. I did everything for the retirer, but it took a lot of time. Your festival, you were all at Venice for Podom. Yes. It was your first festival of cinema? Emma ? Écoute, non. Deux semaines avant, j 'ai fait le festival du film d 'Angoulême. OK. Pour présenter un film belge dans lequel j 'ai joué, qui s 'appelle Vigilante, qui est sorti en salle en Belgique. Et là, je représentais Podom. Oui. Mais c 'était ton premier Venise ? Premier Venise. Incroyable. Incroyable. Oui, j 'ai grave aimé. C 'est beau, en fait. C 'est tellement beau. Oui. Après, flippant de vivre sur un lac.

43:08Sur l 'eau. Sur l 'eau ? Moins flippant qu 'un tourbus la nuit, j 'ai envie de dire. Ah ouais ? À choisir, tu irais vivre sur des pilotis à Venise, trempé, ou en tourbus ? Enfin, trempé, les gens ne sont pas trempés. Pourquoi tu m 'as mis trempé ? L 'humidité, mais l 'humidité partout. Ah ouais ? Moi, j 'ai horreur des moustiques. Ah ben là, moustique, humidité, parfois odeur, je pense. Enfin, tu vois, il y a un truc quand même... Moi, je ne sais pas, aller faire mes courses en barque, Flemmes, parfois. Aller au Carrefour City en... En tourbus, pas flemmes. En gondole, moins la flemmes d 'aller en tourbus.

43:46J 'ai le sentiment que si j 'allais faire mes courses en gondole, je mangerais des bonnes pâtes. Oui, mais toi, tu le mets sous le fantasme, le charme un peu touristique. Moi, je te parle du quotidien. Mais le quotidien en tourbus, c 'est d 'aller au Carrefour Express, manger des Cheetos, avoir les doigts qui sentent le fromage. J 'adore les Cheetos. Il y a des cuisines dans les tourbus. Mais vous cuisinez quoi dans le tourbus ? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. On mange des chitos. On mange dans les tournées, on mange dans les hôtels ou dans les Zeniths. Oui. Et dis-moi, quand tu es allée à Venise, tu avais tout un staff styliste et tout.

44:20Oui. Et donc, il y avait toute la partie glam. Et c 'était super. Oui. On parle de représentation de soi. On va dire que oui, moi, c 'est des choses qui me mettent énormément en confiance d 'avoir des équipes autour de moi qui justement m 'aident à me rassurer sur ce point-là. because I'm not the young first physically I'm a physical atypic at the beginning it was more difficult but it's funny that you say that I don't know what it means I don't know if she put her on the phone like she didn't have it at the beginning I don't know if she could say I see what you want to say but it's a I have the impression that I don't know if it exists in the 90's you had an agency for the pub and you had some for physical atypics I think I'm there I don't think that you're not quite atypically for being in the agency but because I've done a lot of work just to speak, we talk about the team but I'm saying I'm in fact, it's insupportable because it would say, the typical it's the stereotype of what you...

45:22You can't pass it to the side, it's a beauty that is a beauty that is validating by everyone but in this case-là, you make me think that I'm also atypically, I didn't think that I was atypically that's to you of judge, it's not to me Unlock un nouveau truc, j 'ai un physique atypique Unlock toi ça, pose-toi la question dans le miroir Si t 'es atypique ou pas Oui attention, quand tu dis Il y a une différence en te dire je suis atypique Éteignez les caméras, je vais m 'embrouiller là J 'ai l 'impression qu 'il y a une différence en te dire je suis atypique Ce qui me flatte, et dire T 'es un physique atypique Si tu me dis t 'es un physique atypique, j 'ai l 'impression que c 'est une manière Que t 'as de me dire Mais attends, moi je parle pas des gens qui me disent Personne me dit aujourd 'hui t 'es atypique, enfin rarement C 'est toi-même à toi-même It's like that today...

46:02You're not atypique, you're not stéréotyped. I'm not stéréotyped. I'm not the first one of magazines of someone who is very perfectly done. But I'm not trying to do one-one. I'm not trying to do one-one. I love how you say one-one. You're not trying to do one-one. I'm not trying to do one-one in the mode I'm in physique atypique. I'm not at all. You ask me to answer if you like a little bit of a question. Oui, parce que je pense que je reviens de loin physiquement et que c 'est des choses qui m 'aident à aujourd 'hui me donner énormément confiance en moi. Oui, mais ce que je veux dire par là, c 'est que ce qui est fou, c 'est que quand on regarde toute cette loge, il n 'y a que des physiques atypiques.

46:42En fait, on est tous des physiques atypiques. Et tu as genre sept top models qui nous font croire que c 'est eux qui tiennent la norme. Oui, mais c 'est eux qui représentent la beauté aujourd 'hui mondiale. Et du coup, c 'est là d 'où viennent les complexes aussi. It's in the comparison. There are people who have physical physical who are beyond the norm. Because the other day, Barbara Pravi is coming to this podcast and I said when I'm not feeling good, I have the impression that I'm looking at Michelle Welbeck. I gave her a photo and she said I saw what you want to say. So, stop it, because she knows that it's a problem in my head.

47:14It's going to take a long time. And between Michelle Welbeck and you who tells me that I'm a physical atypique, I have the impression that there's something that I haven't understood. But you have all a physical atypique. Attention, you know, I didn't say that you looked like Michelle Welbeck. I didn't look like that, I didn't look like Michelle Welbeck. I'm going to show you exactly like her. I'm going to show you what you want to say. I can't say that. But it's the old man. Yes. In fact, I know why I think I look like I don't look like Michelle Welbeck. But it's not because I think I look like I accept that you all.

47:47We all say. It's on this photo particularly. particularly.

47:55You're right? Not at all. Thank you. Well, here, Barbara Pravi. Really not. She wanted to be in the house. And in plus, I told her, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, I don't know if it's a bad thing. It's not that he was like, it's not that he was like. It's not that he was like. It's not that he was like. No, no. Why would it be like that? I don't know. He's not maquillé? He's not maquillé? He's not maquillé? Why? You're not maquillé? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

48:30But on dirait qu 'il est maquillé, non? He's got a little bit of a jerk. He's got a little bit of a jerk. In any case, I didn't say, attention, myroir, myroir, my beau miroir, I didn't say that I was atypique. I just said that I was atypique. But anyway, it's about you. I don't know why I'm so narcissistic. It's my invitation. It's my invitation. It's you, Lasta. So we're going to talk about you. And tell me, what rapport has you to the vieilless in the past? Cut.

49:01Listen, listen, listen. Listen. Generally, when you say listen, listen, listen, listen, it's more of an anxiety. I don't have the answer. Okay. I don't know. I live with. I'm with, I'm with. But it's something new, in fact. But in all of a sudden, you have a very nice hair. Thank you. Because the women who come here, in this podcast, they talk about them. Yes, there are plenty of hair. But in all of a sudden, I think it's a subject. Ah, yeah. Chez the women, it's... I have a chance, I have a good hair. You have a good hair. But in all of that, I think that... On the hair or with the hair, I think that it's a real subject very intimate.

49:47of how we see vieillir. I think there's a lot of vieillir in our daily life, and also with the image of you daily. We live a lot with our image, to manage our image. You said to validate photos, to see to see on TV, to validate your prestations. Obviously, you look more precisely everything that changes in you. You see what I mean? Beaucoup more than someone who works. I think in his life, he's a work that is less linked to image. And so, he can, I think, zoom the way... We're not too much. I'm not too much. I'm going to go to the morning and then I'm going to go to the day. And then I'm going to go to the chair.

50:30It's less than a subject. Our subject is to have a certain image and to drive a minimum. But, we can't drive everything. The age... Kris Jenner has a very good chirurgian. I don't think so. Without shamer the lifting. Because in fact, the problem is that if you tire there, you have to tire there, there, there. And the path is there?

50:56You will ask. I will ask. It's the next invite, right? Yes. Oh, it would be good. After me, it's really difficult. It's hard to do. It's hard to do. Yes, it's hard to do. At least it's hard to do. But you, you have a routine, you have a routine, like her? Like Chris? Yeah. What's your routine? You want the brand? Not necessarily, I don't know. You're a sponsor? It depends. I don't know if you're a sponsor. Is it... I mean, you put really the same... You put really your routine morning, evening, evening, evening, evening, with the serum, and all that. Yeah. The brand the most green lighted possible, everyone, no?

51:37I don't know what it is. Vas-y, dis. Aromazone. Aromazone? Well, I don't know. But Tristan Lopin has talked about the Aromazone here. So, it's a routine banal, bateau. With a little anti-H dedans. There's a little bit of collagen. Yeah. Pardon, I don't know why I reacted. I reacted. We're not at the défilé of the mode. No, I reacted. But in all cases, how to say, yes, there's a little bit of collagen. In fact, it's It's very difficult to say. It's the hydration. It's the hydration. It's the most difficult to say that acid hyaluronic, right? Exactly. Acid hyaluronic. Acid hyaluronic. Acid hyaluronic, yeah.

52:23Yes, it's the hydration. And your diet, you're doing gaffe. It's more than more. It's true. I'm just mega... That's interesting. That's interesting, really? Yes. For example, I want to know what you've eaten this evening. And if you don't know yet, I would like to know what you ate here. I ate here. I ate, I ate, on went far away. In the... Dis-moi. Brocoli, carottes, steak haché. Oh, on se croit à la cantine. Feta. For the joy, the feta. Oh, yeah. But it's you who ate it at home? Yeah. I'm going to cook at home. But it's just... The cuisson, it's not cuisiner. It's like you have to cook things.

53:04Yeah. But you have a pleasure to eat? No, I love eating, but I love cooking. But you chose, you told me, what I'm going to eat this evening? Brocoli, carotesteak haché. I want it to be clean, I want it to be sain. Let's go. Ah, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, you don't want to eat eating? Bah non, but if I want to eat eating, I go to the restaurant. Bah, pas toujours, parfois. Bah, avec les bonnes adresses. Moi, je cuisine bien. Tu cuisine bien, toi? Je trouve, ouais. Ah ouais. Mais c 'est peut -être aux autres de le dire. Si j 'arrive, c 'est dégueulasse. Comment je te fais ? Non, mais non, je ne pense pas que ça puisse être dégueulasse.

53:39Si je fais un truc dégueulasse... La tarte tatin ? Non, je ne fais pas de pâtisserie. Je suis très salée. Et ça ne m 'intéresse pas à partir du moment où il y a des mats dedans. Genre, il faut tant de trucs. Sinon, ça foire, ça me tend. OK. Alors que le salé, tu peux ne pas respecter les trucs. Ce sera toujours réussi. Ah non, ce qui m 'intéresserait vachement, c 'est de savoir, je ne sais pas pourquoi, mais je t 'imagine dans un très beau pyjama. Ah ouais ? Mais tu dors peut -être nu ou en caleçon ou en t-shirt ? Non, ouais, je dors simplement. Ça veut dire nu, simplement ? Non, avec un caleçon.

54:11Ah, tu avais l 'air coquin. Je dors simplement. Non, pas du tout. Juste un caleçon. Ok. Et t 'as genre un... On saura tout, en fait. Bah oui, on saura tout, ça m 'intéresse. Ok. Et donc ce soir, tu vas manger quoi ? Je sais pas. Et tu te douches le matin ou le soir ? Le matin. Ah ouais ? Ouais. Et toi ? I tend to get a shower the night because I like to go in my bed all right. And in the meantime, people say that you don't feel the morning, you don't feel the night. It depends on the night you pass, but you don't feel the night. You can feel the night. To be the night, you breathe a lot. I'm not sure, I'm not sure.

54:53I think that the shower is for me a passage. It's a wake-up, it's a... You take a cold shower? No, no, no. And you put a lot of water?

55:07You've been waiting for a long time. Because you know, there are plenty of people who don't put a lot of water. Ah, yeah? I know, it's crazy. Why? Visiblement, they don't feel it. Moi, it depends. No, I put a lot of water daily. But it depends. I don't know what I'm saying. It's hyper interesting, I'm saying. Ok, well, you say you have questions You have to ask me to finish this podcast It's all that's going to be there Look at him, he's like, he's a marmer of me But it's not at all, it's not at all We're going to finish there We're going to ask you a real question I've done what during the time Because the guy continues Let's say something interesting about me You want to make sure I do what the journalists do sometimes What question, Eddie, you would like to ask You would like to ask and not ask I haven't answered You see, it was a great interview It's a great interview Well, I love you.

55:57I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Well, let's go. You're doing the lymphatic? I don't know that it's a bad question. You're doing the lymphatic. I love you. I'm on the face. I don't have a difference. Ah, but it's because you don't go and you're super sain. Damn. It's going to show you how I'm becoming... Look at all the water that water. For example, on his quality of skin, it's a little bit. It's a little bit. Not at all. No. Well, not at all. And at all, to take control of his life, I think that after, You have a joy to realize that it's a thing of control and that it's you who decide.

56:36Thank you for coming. Thank you. Thank you. Bye-bye. Anti-age, makeup, lifting, sweat shaming, Botox, intox, L amorphlet, contouring, skin, mask, peau flask, relâchement, cheveux blancs, acne, zone T, brillance, en apparence.