Alyne Tamir | Extraordinary Life Stories

0:13Aline Tamir, thank you for joining me. Thanks for having me. I've been really looking forward to this. Me too. Tell me, who is Aline Tamir? So my name is Aline Tamir. I'm a content creator. I've had a couple of businesses also in the content world. I grew up between Los Angeles, my mom's American and Mormon, and Israel, my dad's Israeli and Jewish. So I've always been pulled between two worlds. I was raised Mormon, got married at 22 in the Mormon church, in the Mormon temple in Utah, got divorced at 25. decided to start a new life decided to leave the U.S. and travel the world and that's when I decided to kind of leave the church and begin a new life and ultimately kind of came online to share my journey on social media and connect with other women.

1:01It's amazing how that's blown up as well right? Yeah. When you decided to do that did you expect the outpouring the the kind of um yeah sort of the reaction if you like to so many people? I mean when I started creating my own social media on my own channels I was already 27 almost 28 28 years old which is at the time a few years ago felt a little old for a social media person now it's more common for people I kind of just had this feeling where I was online and I was watching videos of other people and I would catch myself pointing my finger and being like why aren't you making content about this why aren't you making content about women's rights about divorce about this and I realized Aline, you're an adult woman.

1:43You can make the content you want to see. Stop blaming other people for not creating content you want. And that's how I started my social media channels. That's fascinating. But you had no experience in this, right? So am I wrong? I had some experience. So when I was, since I was young, I wanted to work in media because I'm from Los Angeles. And I always saw the media world as men. So even at my high school in LA, there was a film program and I signed up but I was a girl so I always ended up doing like food like the food for the set or casting I was never like directing or producing and it was always male producers and directors even in high school and just kind of the undertone was that men are the leaders in media and you will never be and I didn't feel pretty enough to be an actress so I was like I guess I'm doing casting and then in university I would hang out with all the youtubers so my university in Utah had a lot of YouTubers at the time, and I would kind of help them on videos.

2:39And when I got married, me and my ex-husband created a social media company when I was 22. So I had experience in social media behind the scenes, but I never had experience on camera. So that was my first time on camera. I get it. And it's great you've explained that because that's not visible. That's why I need to have these conversations with you, right? Yeah, no one knows that. But it's so interesting as well. You pick up on something that's really important to me, the whole like role models or lack of role models. Like you've made decisions in your head at a young age that you couldn't do this and that's for other people but then you completely flip the narrative yeah killing it now like thriving so take me back to i want to know those sort of early influences and decision making that you went through that you know kind of effectively got you trapped at a certain point in your life and i wanted to go into that in in context of your own lived experience?

3:31I would say when I look back at it, it's really I wanted to make my mom happy. So my mom is Mormon and so she raised me and as a child you usually want to make your parent proud. Who doesn't, right? Right? Sure. And I knew the main thing my mom wanted for me was to be Mormon, to be religious and to get married in the Mormon temple. So the Mormon temple you might have seen them in the world, they're all over the world, these white big spires. that's like the peak experience when you're a woman or a man that's mormon getting married there is how you go to the highest level of heaven right and so i was like i have to get married in the mormon temple i have to go to byu which is a mormon university in utah i have to get married in the temple and i have to have a family that's like my main goal in the world but deep down i didn't want that and it didn't sit with me but i was a kid i was like 18 19 20 so i assume that I'm dumb and I don't know what I want and I do what will make my mom happy and so press that I suppressed everything and I didn't listen to my intuition because I assumed I was wrong because I assumed older people know more than me and I'm done so you ultimately lived the life you could argue that your mom wanted for you that that tradition laid out for you for a huge chunk of your life a hundred percent yeah everything I did I mean I dressed modestly I never had tea I never had coffee.

4:49I never had alcohol. I gave 10 % of my income to the church. I didn't break any rules. I didn't party. I didn't curse. I went to church every Sunday for three hours. I did. I was like doing all the things that we were supposed to do. You were a good Mormon, basically. I was a perfect Mormon. I was card carrying. You know, you get a temple recommend to go to the temple. When you follow all the rules, you go through all these interviews to prove that you're following the rules of the church. It's not like some religions where you can be a casual member. There's like not really casual Mormons. This suppression of the gut instinct, the Aline that wanted to actually go and live a different life.

5:26How did you manage that? Because for so long you did that. And so did you manage it by actually trying to be the best version of a Mormon because you might as well? Yeah, I think a lot of times when you're a type A kid, you just want to be good at everything. You want to get good grades. You want to succeed. You want to make your teachers proud. You want to do everything right. And that's what you're told will make you succeed. And so I did everything right. I was a really good student above perfect scores, really nice person, so good, so nice to everyone. I was constantly actually putting the needs of others before myself, which I didn't realize.

5:59And I thought that was actually a good thing. I thought that's what you're supposed to do is like put everyone else's needs first and be selfless but when you're doing that too much it's actually more performative and it's actually hurting you yeah there's a lot to be said about you can only really love someone if you love yourself right there's a big part of you that was ultimately doing something for other people and not not giving the sort of love to yourself so what changed what were the catalysts that you know we now know um that you're out of out of leaving the church like how did i leave yeah So I was married.

6:35I got married at 22. And for the for the whole marriage, we couldn't have sex. And we got married as virgins. So it was kind of a horrible three years because, you know, I'm a 22 year old girl. I'm married to a man who's we're both virgins. I know he wants to have sex and he's so excited and his wife and he's happy. but I had something that I now know is called vaginismus and it's when your body tightens out of fear so it can happen to a girl who's had trauma that can be like physical trauma or for me it was just I had so much mental shame around sex being bad don't have sex don't be sexual that you know you're not supposed to be sexual you get married and now the next day I'm supposed to be sexual and I had so many complicated feelings my body just tightened I could physically I could physically not have sex like we would try and I would cry and I would cry and I would go to doctors and we couldn't figure it out so that was like for three years we never had sex we ultimately got divorced not even because of that ironically and um that's when I decided like something's wrong like this is not the life I'm supposed to be leading I did everything their way I did every step I got married I went to university I did everything I was supposed to do I was a good wife I did everything and I'm miserable and now I'm 25 and I'm divorced like this sucks and I started going more and more to church originally to get closer to God because when things go wrong you usually turn to your religion right and at the temple there was this ceremony and there's a line in the Mormon temple ceremony they have since removed it and the line said women should listen to their husbands and their husbands will listen to God so I kept listening hierarchy yeah like I'm below the husband and I was like this isn't the church I was raised in that can't be real like this can't and I this can't be real I was like I can't live my life in a church that says this something deep inside of me even after a lifetime of conditioning was like this is not right for me so I slowly started to leave the church I left the United States so it was slow it wasn't it wasn't I didn't go to a club and was it easy I mean I mean no no I was a loaded That's a good question, right?

8:47But like... Because there's a controlling element there. And also, there's your own... Fear. Your physical reaction to sex was through mental kind of strain, if you like. And so you've got your own demons to fight, let alone... Yeah. Probably some pretty powerful people in your world trying to stop you. Yeah. Well, and it's your whole... It's your whole community. You're losing your entire identity from birth. Your friend group. you're alienating your family so that's why I left I didn't leave the city I left in the state I left the whole country I flew to Europe clean break clean break and I was like I'm not re-entering the U.S.

9:27for one year because I knew if I'm near any of these people I will go back so I said remove myself and in that one year of staying in Europe like one month I skipped church one Sunday crazy horrible I was like am I gonna get struck by lightning am I gonna die oh my god and nothing bad happened and then like two months later I was like I'm gonna try a latte I'm gonna try coffee because it's very against our religion so then I tried a coffee and I was very hyper because I never had one before and then I was like oh my god is god gonna like curse me is something bad gonna happen and I was like waiting I was like okay nothing bad happened and then like two months later I had tequila I'd never had alcohol with a girlfriend I was like oh my god I'm drinking tequila this is really bad am I gonna go to hell yeah so it wasn't like someone who just was like yeah, F it.

10:14I'm going to go, you know, to some crazy club in Germany and go off the deep end. No, it was very slow and methodological, methodological. I'm not going to try and say it. Yeah. Methodical. There we go. Yes. Yes. Was there anyone around you? Like you mentioned a friend you had the tequila with, right? That clean break, that's your community. You was very interested as well, right? So is this Aline on her own, just like I'm out and not got anyone to, or did you have a sort of a barometer you know a kind of I didn't tell any of my Mormon no I didn't tell any of my Mormon friends what was happening my best friend at the time when I was married in the church came to visit me recently in London this is 10 years after my divorce she had no idea I'd never had sex when I was married I hung out with this girl five hours a day we just did not talk about this stuff I didn't even say the word sex out loud when I was younger it was so shameful because I wrote this book.

11:07I spoke to my mom for the first time about her sex life two days ago because she's now reading the book and it's opening her up because she's in her 70s. She's from a generation where you don't say the word sex. She told me, she's like, I've never even talked to anyone, even her own sisters, about her sex life with my dad. She's like, we just don't talk about it. This is fascinating because in my world of friendship, family, business relationships, we share. I will often share first, you know, but it's that whole building empathy. It's relationship building. So for so much of your life and clearly for your mom and so many people in the environment, they are locked up.

11:47Have you had an outpouring? Have you had almost like, have you empowered some of the people in the community to actually feel there's a way out? And like you said, the world didn't end when you had a tequila and a coffee, which I can smile at. That was your life. It was so scary because it was also my whole personality was like, oh, I'm the girl. She's never had alcohol. She's like that. What's what made me unique and special and like desirable and cool. And I was like, once I have this stuff, I'm just like everyone else. And I can never go back. You can never go back to never have having it, have having had it.

12:18And when I made a video sharing about how I had not been able to have sex when I got married, my aunt in Israel, I guess it got translated. When I went to visit Israel, she came up to me. my little cute old aunt who has four kids and she's like Aline Aline I saw your video and I wanted to tell you like that happened to me also when I got married to your uncle like 40 years ago she had never told anyone she's like I've never told anyone and so I think making these videos like talking about these topics that are uncomfortable and scary for me also has like helped even I've seen my own mother like my own aunt like feel more open and safe like sharing things like secrets they've kept their whole lives because they had so much fear and shame around them there's so much there there's role models lack of yeah that they knew i'm sure you embraced that with both arms right you then know you're helping people but also you will have grown so much from the girl that was like you know not wanting to conform but did it and did it so well but was not living life had you that stimulation if you like and growth you've had from from doing You know, is that what's now inspired you to write the book, be a trailblazer in context of content creator?

13:33I think the reason I wrote the book is because I was sharing so much online, but there were some stories that were so sensitive and would open me up to so much criticism because I did things wrong. I made mistakes and I knew if I made them in a short form video on social media, people are like horrible online. And if you do something, they're horrible even if you're perfect. and if you do anything wrong wow they will come for you like and not in a small way so I wanted to talk about like in the book I talk about how when after one year of being married I cheated on my husband I didn't have sex with someone else but it still counts as cheating right even talking sometimes it's cheating so I cheated on my husband after one year I told him right away it was horrible for him I'm sure like probably the worst thing that's ever happened to him it was horrible for both of us and why did I do that right as a perfect girl who wouldn't even drink a coffee?

14:23How did I go from not even breaking one tiny rule to essentially cheating on my husband, right? So I wanted to explore themes like that in the book. There's other things that have happened. You know, there was a time where I was abused by someone and like the relationship with my mother. These are topics that are maybe a little, need a little more explanation than a two minute video on social media can give. So that's why I wanted to write the book because my whole childhood I read books and my whole bedroom is like walls of books and I was a very like solitary child and reading books when people were honest about these hard experiences was like the thing that kept me going and that that was how I learned about humans and so after a whole life of like taking from books and them giving me everything I wanted to like create a book that that could maybe give that to like another person.

15:16Yeah. Well, it goes back to inspiring, you know, and through lived experience. I mean, you were clearly incredibly brave. I don't know if you recognize that now looking back. You did it because you knew you had to. You had to save yourself, right? But that bravery, kind of growth you've gone on now gives other people hope. My mind goes to like a young boy or girl growing up in a Mormon community or, you know, a cult, if you like, that is trapped. Have you had an outpouring from people that have made contact with you probably through social media saying, I need help or, you know, how do I escape my situation?

15:52Yeah, I've had a lot of people write to me about their experiences. Usually no one needs physical help. They need the mental fortitude to do it. Right. Because really, there's usually not a chain on your arm. Right. It's like the old saying about the elephant. you just tie it up when it's young and it thinks it can't run away because it's tied then when it's older it's not tied anymore and it stays so I think honestly for a lot of us even for you or me if we're just living our peak real authentic life we don't even need to help physically other people them seeing us do it gives them permission to do it for themselves and really that's what the messages have been is like hey I'm feeling the same way I'm so scared I'm so scared to leave I'm associate to do this, they need to see that there's something good on the other side.

16:43Because it is hard. I'm not going to lie. All of it's hard. Leading by example, right? You mentioned fear. And that's... In my head, I'm trying to imagine why would you stay, right? So you wanted, and you articulated it beautifully, you wanted to make your mother proud and do what your mother wanted. That's a really good reason to do something. A reason to stay is often fear. What did you need to be afraid of? Is there a hierarchy that clearly would have been more than frustrated, upset that you were leaving and then going to go public as you've done? Have you had any threats or have you had any challenges you've actually really needed to get away from of merit?

17:21So the church itself will usually not threaten you because they know if they say something, people will. That's quite important to know, right? Because if there's people living in fear, if it's fear of upsetting your parents, and that's a lot, right? if they're upsetting your community but i respect that they won't do anything physical to me nobody will hurt me nobody will do anything physical the worst they're going to do is in some communities they will not speak to you anymore they'll cut you out right or you know if you have a family that financially supports you they might not financially support you i made sure i was financially independent from a young age so i don't depend on anyone so i can make decisions for myself and not be like oh i have to stay religious because my dad's paying my bills or my mom's paying my bills, right?

18:04They won't do anything to you. I think the biggest fear is usually the unknown because you're like, what does my life, who are my friends? That's our own barriers though, right? That's our own blinkers. Yeah. Like where do I live? Who are my friends? How will I live in normal life? I was 27. I never had sex. How am I going to date normal people? Normal. I thought of you all as normal people. I was like, oh my God, the scary men in the normal world they're gonna attack me you know on the dates so like just how to it's you feel like you know an alien just like boop go into the world now and function function amongst the the mortals you know but you are thriving now so going back to like the the beautiful way you described the coffee to the tequila yeah and without going into your sex life just just actually understanding that and i'm looking at this as if someone's watching or listening sure I've been there or I am there now.

18:57Yeah, I think it's important, especially if they've had vaginismus or something. So what's been the unraveling of that, if you like? And I guess I mean, like, is that you learning to love yourself, learning to drop all the shackles and the things you had sort of stopping yourself to then allow yourself to be your true self? First of all, I want to say, like, it wasn't an overnight thing because I think some people, if they struggle with sexuality and shame, even people who have had sex, will struggle with it, especially women. There's a lot of pressures around women and chastity culture. What helped me, honestly, for myself is the person that I decided to have sex with for the first time.

19:37I didn't tell him anything about my past. I didn't tell him I was Mormon. I didn't tell him I was divorced. I didn't tell him I was a virgin. I just acted like I was a normal person because I wanted to be seen as normal. I didn't want there to be like, oh my god I'm taking the virginity of a Mormon girl like all this pressure and these like weird things around it I wanted him to think I'm just an American girl who's sleeping her way around the world and this is completely normal for me and we also had feelings for each other so that's what happened I was traveling in Sri Lanka I flew there to meet one of my best friends and I booked the wrong date because I'm unorganized so I got there 10 days early by myself on this island and I met some, you know, sweet, handsome German man who followed me around the island and ultimately I was able to have sex with him.

20:26And I didn't, yes, it hurt the first time and second time. Natural. It did hurt at first. I just hid my face and like cried a little bit so he wouldn't know because I wanted to be normal. And by the third or fourth time, I had no pain. Like it was gone. I didn't need to do physical therapy. I didn't need to use dilators. All these things the doctors were telling me that sounded scary it was all in my head self-cure all in my head so much of what you've done is is self-care yeah it's inspirational yeah um you mentioned you were always financially uh independent from a young age which is the the entrepreneur and you which is actually we've met through that entrepreneur with aiden right and that's sort of founders connecting so take me on that journey you you have come through so much and i said to you off camera i said now so much respect for you couldn't wait for this conversation and you kind of epitomize resilience and the fact that you can feel you're so present you know there's there's a whole kind of what you've come through and what you must have suppressed to now I've got the true Aline what's the what's the journey for an entrepreneur now what are you trying to achieve what is the kind of north star if you like I think me becoming an entrepreneur was the biggest surprise to me of anyone because like I told you with the media industry also I remember being in university in the business school and looking at all the boys in their suits and being like business is for boys, business is for boys, houses are for girls, stay at home for girls.

21:47So I really never thought I was an entrepreneur. When you look back, it's very obvious. I was selling, taking my mom's roses and boiling them and selling perfume in my neighborhood. I was making business cards for all the neighbor kids to pet sit. I was selling things that's, it's obvious now, but at the time I was like, no, I don't do business. I don't understand business. What is business? And now it's just so natural. Like everything I do, I'm like, oh, I can sell this. We can make this. It's fun. It's like a game. And so I think it's so amazing that now more women are in business. And for me, business is not about, it's about freedom.

22:22It's not about money. It's not about legacy. I really don't care about legacy. I don't care at all. I care about having freedom and not depending on someone else who can control me. So I think that's why it's so amazing that women can have financial freedom now, like that famous saying, you know, women couldn't have bank accounts like in the US 50 years ago. So it's great. Like, I love that. Without that, you really can't be completely yourself if you're not financially independent. Well, I get that. And I think, you know, in the UK, less than 2 % of VC venture capital funding goes to female founders.

23:01Yeah. And that's a real passion. I've got two daughters 13 and 15 i i am hopefully inspiring to be you know inspirational in their own way follow their dreams and an entrepreneur yeah and so it's like well why why is that and i think this is where you know when i said to you why i wanted to film with you you know it's it's role models it's showing other women that actually it's not all about men in suits i i don't wear this stuff i feel really i love men in suits too you know but i get it it's it's it's it's not something i'd have paid much attention to growing up and at 47 you know yeah i've grown through a period of time where it's been sort of male dominated if you like but i think this is where you're so refreshing and actually quite happen putting it out there and got such traction back to the content creation because you are championing female entrepreneurship and i'm going to say this to you as well when i was in a position where i was actually wanting to find someone to film with in a period of time where Aidan brought you up.

23:58He could not have been more excited, more passionate about. You've got to, and there's lots of people he could have mentioned, right? There was a lot. But in terms of no legacy, in terms of no North Star, often it's talked about the journey, not the destination, right? Which is, I think we can relate to, I'm enjoying this conversation now, I'm enjoying learning from you and so on. But is there something you'd like to achieve? Is there something that maybe based on what you've experienced, what you've been through, or having unraveled all sorts of things you now want to try and achieve? Is there one thing you would really like to actually change?

24:33Honestly, the main thing I want to change is my internal world, because I spent a lot of my career working on the external world. So when I became a content creator and an influencer, my videos were all about the world. It was about FGM, female genital mutilation. It was about sexism on television. It was about people without passports in other countries who can't travel. It was about it was all external human rights. What's wrong with the world? All these videos with 20, 30, 40, 50 million views about human issues. And now I realize that is very important. But it's also important that we all work on our internal world.

25:11And I know it sounds unrelated to business. But I think when my internal world is in order, I'm going to be able to share who I am and what I love and what I believe in in the best way and have a big business. Think of Oprah. Oprah works a lot on her internal world, right? She works on her mental health. She works on, she's a grounded person. You don't see Oprah and think, oh my god, she's all over the place. She is grounded, right? And from a place of being grounded like a tree, you put down your roots, then you can grow. So I'm still relatively young. I'm 35, right? Right now, I had a crazy life.

25:45I need to ground. I need to ground. And then once my roots are strong, I can be like Oprah. I can grow out. Right. And then, of course, I care about helping women and I care about helping men. I want I want everyone to reach the peak version of themselves, whether that means you're going to be an artist and a creative and you're in business right now, but secretly you want to be an artist. Whatever your passion is, I want each person to be able to have the freedom to find it. And I think the world will just be better for everyone. And that can that will probably become a business i run retreats i'm building a retreat center i i love to help people find who they are and do the thing they're afraid of doing must be so fulfilling that's amazing that's how people come to you completely broken or or confused or their identity is locked up which is something all these things you can identify with and empathize with to then spend the time on them where not necessarily at the end of the retreat but they're well on their way to like having a revealing kind of removing imposter syndrome because you said not just not specifically business but imposter syndrome not backing yourself not believing yourself which goes back to a lot of women in business as well like actually go for it and if you want me to put it in simpler terms i think what i want to create is safe spaces i think when people have a safe space men or women anyone they can do amazing things and i think there's not a lot of safe spaces in the world everyone's faking they're pretending to be something they're not they're defensive they're trying to be something for their mom their dad their husband their wife their kids so when there's a safe space and you can be you that's what i want to create whether it's through building my retreat centers whether it's through running events whether it's online whether it's just one-on-one like that's what i want to do i love that yeah with your perspective and so many people you undoubtedly are helping all the time at 35 years old and there's so much you've gone through and so much experience you've got from helping other people what's the one piece of advice that you would give to someone that is listening to this watching this now but thinking i can't i can't i'm not brave enough to talk to someone about this i'm not brave enough to go on the retreat you know and they've read the books they've they're listening podcasts but they're just that they're just the voices in their head are crushing them.

28:02What advice would you give them? Remove the noise, put down the phone, put down the computer, go into a park. Imagine water is like running through your body and just rush out all of these thoughts. Let it come back to static. I'm a very anxious person. Imagine the water's going to be... Remove all of the external. Remove all the external. What is that tiny voice inside of you saying? You're going to die. You're going to die. Maybe tomorrow, maybe next week. You're literally going to die and you are living someone else's life in some way. Do you want to die not doing the thing that you want to do fine die die that way?

28:34That's that's what you want to do. There's nothing wrong with that Think about one year from now One year from now you're going to be alive in one year. What do you wish you would have done? It's gonna be scary. Do you think I wanted to write this book and let my mom read this book? No, I have breakdowns. I have freakouts. I scream. I cry. I call my friends. I talked to chat GPT I go through the most insane roller coasters. You can imagine I'm in my room at 3 a.m. Like I'm gonna start a war all the men are so mean to women. I go through and I look like an insane person sometimes, but then when you get to the other side, it feels so amazing.

29:06And that's layering, right? Building habits. So what you say, so from the walk in the park, yeah, it's a step and maybe give yourself credit for that and then start building and building because you sitting here now, there's a, without any arrogance, there's a, I'm going to use the word contentment. Yeah. And you, you use the analogy, the roots, you've got roots in and so you can now flourish from that point. And it's being able to plant some of those roots, right? And get a bit of a hole rather than blowing in the wind. Yeah. That's what I'm picking up for you. And sometimes I just want to take my friends.

29:36I want to shake them. I want to be like, listen, someone has to do it. Why not you? I have a friend who came to visit me. And like five years ago, I said, start uploading your singing videos. Just upload them. Who cares if they're good or if any, just upload. It's been five years. If she uploaded every day, she would have uploaded a thousand, 2000 videos. And she comes to my house and she's like, I want to be a singer. and I'm like, lark, I'm going to shake you. Upload your dang videos. It's been five years. Like, it's just someone is going to do it. Someone is going to go through the fear. Why not you?

30:06This is the thing with the fear of judgment, the fear of failure, and social media has got a lot to answer, right? I mean, you didn't have the option to share your singing videos however many years ago before socials, right? Now we've got it. And she could go viral tomorrow and then she'll never look back. But she's terrified of what other people think. And the crushing sad thing for me is I know that really close to home through the way my daughters talk to me and their friendship groups where, you know, I'm not, I'm not putting myself anywhere where I can be judged, criticized, bullied. What's your advice there?

30:37I mean, you know, you're, you're thriving. You've got past that, but you, you mentioned earlier in this conversation that people can be horrible online. It's waves. Even I'm not past it. I upload, I'm uploading crazy stuff about my life that's very honest that most people wouldn't say. I get horrible, mean, long, detailed comments. I had a very public online relationship for seven years. People saw every detail of my life for seven, the last seven years. And they know, and they will write long detail. I will have breakdowns. I will cry. The thing is, it's that famous saying, right? Feel the fear and do it anyway, right?

31:11I'm not saying I don't feel fear. I'm not saying I don't have breakdowns and cry and scream all the time, but then I just keep going. I upload. Okay. I'm uploading, have a friend, have a friend that you can talk to, that you can talk about these feelings. You need someone who will support you through everything. And if it's not another person, it needs to be you. You need to support yourself through everything. You need to create structures. You need to say, listen, I'm uploading no matter what, three times a week, not seven times, three times. If I have a bad day, I take it off. I say F the internet.

31:41I hate all of you. And then the next day I upload and mean comments, block them, block them. I think a lot of people don't block them. They think I need to respond. I need to this. Block, block, block. You're entertaining with that point, right? Goodbye to everyone. This is your house. Your social media channel is your house. And if someone comes into your house and is rude to you, they get kicked out. Your page is your house. Goodbye to anybody rude. Think of it as a physical house. You would not allow someone to enter your home and disrespect it. It's great. It's the same online. It's back to those roots as well.