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Family Office Podcast: Billionaire & Centimillionaire Interviews & Investor Club Insights

5 Oct 2026 · 7m · 3 chapters

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Why This Family Office CEO Won't Invest If You're "Indifferent" on ESG

In short

A single family office CEO in Dubai explains why they require measurable sustainability/ESG impact in every investment, rejecting any GP or fund that claims to be “indifferent” on ESG. He frames ESG as permanent, not a trend, and ties it to capital preservation and growth.

Guest backgrounds

Camilo (third-generation single family office CEO; global alternatives investor; based in Dubai; invests since the 2010 U.S. post-crisis). Richard C. Wilson (runs Family Office Club; community and media operator).

Key claims

Every check must have measurable impact; sustainability is asked from the first meeting; “indifferent” answers are unacceptable; ESG is here to stay.

Notable examples

Commercial real estate acquisitions in the U.S. post-2008; renewable energy from wind/solar to hydrogen electrolyzers; waste management and tire recycling technologies to stop burying/burning garbage.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

1:10

Investment Focus of a Family Office

Discussion on the investment strategies and areas of focus for a family office.

“Camilo, will you please start us off and make sure that you also say something very amusing because it's late in the afternoon.”
3:16

Sustainability as a Core Investment Principle

Emphasis on the importance of sustainability and measurable impact in investments.

“and agricultural waste, also medical waste.”
5:36

The Indifference Towards ESG is Unacceptable

Highlighting the critical stance on being indifferent towards ESG issues in investments.

“I will stop here before you guys start looking down on the phone.”
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0:02It's a pleasure to be here again with Family Office Club. Always high caliber high quality people in the room to meet and no exception here on this panel because we have some extremely high quality successful people who are going to share their tips with you and hopefully help you get to the next level of whatever it is that your goal is and they're going to introduce themselves it's a speed-based panel they're each going to have five minutes where they're going to talk about what their history and focus is, what they're looking to invest in, maybe share some truths and some stories that may be some lessons learned there, what sectors and areas they're interested in and think are going to really take off where the opportunity sets are.

0:55So I will turn it over to them. You heard a brief intro about myself. and if you're interested in learning more about me, you'll also please attend panel seven tomorrow morning at 10.50. So without further ado, we will continue on with our main panelists. Camilo, will you please start us off and make sure that you also say something very amusing because it's late in the afternoon. Thank you so much. Definitely you guys are the warriors that stay to the end because Richard always keep the best for the end of the day. and that mean him because he's going to come after us, correct? But thank you very much.

1:37Good afternoon. We are a single family office. We operate out of Dubai. We are in our third generation. I happen to be the CEO for several years already and I'm not allowed to retire anyway, so I don't allow myself also. We are global investors with focus on alternatives. We invest in commercial real estate, and our portfolio spread to several destinations, definitely including the United States since 2010, when the United States was just about to come out of the great crisis, and there were a lot of opportunities that you can purchase right there and then, and way below replacement. In addition to commercial real estate, we invest in renewable energy, in all different aspects of it.

2:28I mean, if it is the basic of wind and solar, all the way to the electrolyzers that today are separating hydrogen from oxygen, that the company Tata last week, they released now the new engine that operates on water, where the electrolyzer in the car separates the hydrogen to use it to create the electricity for the engine and then recapture the vapor and then have water one more time. I don't know if it is portable or not, but it's a new advancement in the business. In addition, we invest also in waste management. We believe that today in a world that is way ahead today of 8 billion people, are we producing industrial waste, human waste definitely, and agricultural waste, also medical waste.

3:23and all that require recycling, require reprocessing and we still have many countries out of the 192 countries plus in the members of the United Nations that are still burning their garbage or burying it. I remember a time where even for us in the sand we used to bury the tires until we, I was among the leaders who brought in the tire recycling technologies to the region And actually, the technology came out of the U.S. And where we recycle automobile tires. So we say to each other, you don't have to bury it. There is a factory you can deliver it to. And today, many countries are adopting the same.

4:04We have also, you said I have five minutes? Yes. Thank you. You have about one minute left. Yeah, I mean, but this clock over here cheat. We always, I mean, so. One minute plus a little charm is permitted. Thank you, Alejandro. God bless you. So I developed an internal policy for ourselves that focus on sustainability. Every investment where we write checks into has to have a measurable impact. And also that the thesis behind it does make a difference, not only for us. It's not always about the money. when a single family invests overseas and my colleagues will tell you the same it's not to get wealthier it is for capital preservation and growth I'm not saying that we are innocent we are doing it for the sake of God no, it is another business but also there is a sense of conscientious in it in the way we do business so the conversation with GPs if it is direct investment or it is with an institution if it is with the fund, with the wealth management, is the sustainability question is always on the table from the first meeting.

5:18If the answer is, well, we are indifferent, that term is not acceptable. You know, you cannot be indifferent in today. ESG, the environment, sustainability on jobs, on businesses is not a trend. It is here to stay. It is a way of life. I will stop here before you guys start looking down on the phone. If I see anybody looking at the phone, I have the code of the building manager to disconnect the internet. So be careful. Hi, I'm Richard C. Wilson. Our community has closed over$1 billion of transactions. We have over 16 million registered members across 100 plus LinkedIn groups. And I own billionaires.com and run Family Office Club.

6:03Over 19 years, we've hosted 300 live events. I've built 50 of our own AI tools. And between the billionaires I've interviewed, the centimillionaires who have spoken on stage, and over a thousand decamillionaires who have presented, we've found there's three things that really can build your wealth. Proximity, superintelligence, and scale. That's exactly what we provide at Family Office Club. We host 30 events a year, including five large summits for wealthy founders and investors, dozens of workshops and masterminds, including 12 artificial intelligence, laptops out, implementation workshops. So you leave with AI implemented.

6:40To learn more, please go to familyoffices.com. And I look forward to personally meeting you at our next live event. If you are a founder, raising capital, developing real estate, or you're an investor, we'd love for you to get involved in the Family Office Club. I've run this community for 18 years now. We've hosted 300 live events. We have 17 million social media group members and followers. We have the number one YouTube channel on Family Offices. We have the number one most popular podcast on Family Offices. You can learn more about us and our membership options at familyoffices.com. We have 30 in-person events planned in 2026 and another dozen events this year.

7:23Please go to familyoffices.com to learn more.

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A Dubai-based single family office CEO, now leading his family's third-generation investment operation, breaks down why sustainability can't be an "indifferent" answer in any GP conversation... and why that's non-negotiable at the first meeting. This episode covers commercial real estate acquired below replacement cost, renewable energy investments spanning solar to hydrogen electrolyzers, and an inside look at industrial waste recycling as an overlooked asset class. Filmed live at a Family Office Club single family office summit, part of the 300+ events FOC has hosted over 19 years for its 16 million registered members. Want direct access to conversations like this? FamilyOffices.com has the details on upcoming events and membership. What's your take — is ESG becoming a hard requirement for capital allocators, or still optional?

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