The Fashion Awards

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1:56Hello and welcome to Fashion People. I'm Lauren Sherman, writer of Puck's Fashion and Beauty Memo Line Sheet. And today with me on the show is who what wears Hillary Kerr, the ringers Amanda Dobbins, and stylist Jamie Mizrahi. We are talking Oscars fashion.

2:16Happy Tuesday, everyone. Hope you had a great weekend. And I will be brief or I'll try to be brief because we have a whole fashion police style panel here to discuss the Oscars and I want to get right to it. But I did want to give you a little retail report from Berlin where I spent a couple of days. I realized I had not been to Berlin in 18 years. We hilariously ate at the same restaurant for lunch one day. It was still pretty good. It's olive or olives or something like that. It was cute. Anyway, I had a lot of good wine and good food. um, on this trip. And I went to many different stores cause I was on vacation.

2:54I didn't buy anything for myself, just clothes at Arket for my kid, which anytime there's an Arket with kids clothes, I buy some stuff. Uh, but I will say that it was fun to be in a city where people can still afford to live in terms of shopping. I went to Andreas Mercutis, Mercutis, Andreas Mercutis. that's what I'm gonna go with for the first time and I just was taken aback by how influential that store has obviously been on other concept shops around the world like Totokayo RIP it really reminded me of that I also was thinking a lot about how the stores like that don't really have that many options of what to sell these days like they're not gonna sell even the big brands that do wholesale they're not gonna like go for them like Maxfield can sell Miu Miu this this store is not like that they had a lot of Dries, Barena, a lot of Yoji which I'm paying close attention to because I'm really looking for a Yoji jacket right now.

3:57Blazer. Younger brands like Hoda Kova but the options are kind of dwindling. I mean it's the reality of the industry anyway. I mostly went to vintage shops which is another reality of the industry. There was a fun one called Yummy that was like run by an Italian person and mostly sold Italian brands. And they had Versace jeans, yellow jeans. And I texted Becky Malinsky about them. And she was like, you have to buy. I didn't buy them because I'm not really buying anything right now unless it's the perfect Yoji jacket. I didn't buy them. They were like Dario Vitale style. They were like 100 euros.

4:35If you if you can go to Berlin and buy these jeans, you should buy them. And there was also a pair of Armani men's chinos that I almost bought for myself and I tried to get other people to buy them they were also like 120 euros they were perfect they had uh tags on really gorgeous and I'm just realizing being in Paris now that like a lot of the vintage shops in Paris are really expensive you know we're not in Los Angeles anymore with Scout anyway there's another store in Berlin I really loved was Hart, H-A-R-D-T, where I tried two Yoji Blazers. I tried a bunch of Jill Sanders stuff. I'm really on the hunt for a Yoji Blazer right now.

5:15And there was one, the one of them I almost bought, but it wasn't exactly right. If you know of a black Yoji Blazer, I would like to spend less than 300 euros on it. Hit me up. I want black for sure. And I want it to be, I don't care of when it's from as long as it fits me well. Anyway, thanks to the guys at A Kind of Guys for making a shopping list for me. I also went to Our Legacy, which is a great store, really nice menswear, and they had a lot of other cute things including their own wine and their own jams and stuff. It was really nice to be there. I also went to Our Legacy, which, you know, I think it's really nicely done.

5:54It's not for me. I don't know if it was ever for me, but I'm definitely too old for it now. Anyway, Berlin's a really interesting city. You should check it out if you can get over there. And now let's get going with the fashion police.

6:09Amanda, Hillary and Jamie, welcome to Fashion People. Thanks for having us. So before we get started, I wanted to preface this with the idea for this came from a conversation that Jamie and I had when Jamie was on the podcast last fall, where she was like, why don't you have like a Joan Rivers style panel of people after the Oscars. And at that moment, I basically forced her to say yes to do it. And then was thinking about like, who else would be good? And Hillary, you're so good at red carpet commentary. I always love having you on. And Amanda, obviously, you and I converse about this kind of stuff daily.

6:49And you are a super podcaster. So I thought the three of you would be great. It would be nice to have some male energy in here, but it didn't happen this time. Mel Ahlberg is too busy. He would have been a good ad. He would be. Maybe next time we'll do it. I don't know Mel, but he was so great in the moment, the Charlie X, the X film. So I was looking forward to just being able to tell him that via Zoom. But next time. Well, now he knows. He's definitely listening. so okay ladies before we talk about our favorites i would love to hear each of your takes on like how you thought the carpet was because i went on cbs news like the 24 hour thing not not like the proper live or anything but um and i was pretty positive about the red carpet but then i was like was i too nice about what happened last night but i'm curious what you all think you have such different perspectives of how like from the maybe the whole weekend like there were so many events the night before there was the Chanel thing there was the Dior thing there was there were luncheons all these things that and then all the way up to the Vanity Fair which is almost as big of a red carpet moment as the Oscars itself but I'm curious what you all took away from the evening.

8:07Hillary, what was your big idea from this Oscars 2026? No shade to the Oscars, but I actually think the Vanity Fair red carpet is the more important carpet because it's more diverse. It has more risk taking going on. I just think it's more interesting in general. Oftentimes, I prefer the Vanity Fair look to the Oscars look. So that's my hot take not to be like pro media, but I am. So that's how I feel about things. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised to see so much color. I always love color. That makes me really happy. I thought that there's, you know, it's the Oscars, so it's never going to be the most amazing moment on the red carpet, in my opinion.

8:48I think people tend to play it safe, but I love seeing, I mean, this was a great moment for Dior, great moment for Chanel, great moment for Vuitton. There was a lot of great stuff going on. So I overall was pleased. I was not, it was, was it the best look of all time? No. Were there lots of amazing looks? Yes. But part of that has to do with who was nominated, you know? That's true. And everybody, everybody's looking real tight lately. So all the dresses were like really good. Jamie, what did you think? You, you styled some people for these events and, and so you have an interesting point of view, but what did you think overall?

9:29well my issue is i'm working until the show starts so i'm not sitting there watching it in real time so i'm kind of like looking at the photos after the fact or when they're at the show is kind of the first time i'm seeing the dresses and the looks like it was only until this morning that i saw tiana taylor chanel look i i just i just miss things because it's such a busy day to work. But I actually thought a lot of the Oscars dresses, I kind of disagree with you, Hillary, because I thought they were fashion. But like I was I thought Renata felt not like a typical Oscar dress. I thought Emma felt a little more like conservative and simple and and 90s and But Gwyneth, like it kind of gave me certain people gave me this old school thing that I've been wanting from the Oscars where it's not these like strapless ball gowns that are are very what the Oscars have become in the last 10 years, which I appreciate.

10:36Yeah, we didn't see a ton of mermaids and that and in that sense, I think that's great. There is more than there used to be. But still, like it's there are fashion moments, but it's not it's not the Met Gala. I guess that's what I'm always comparing it to in my head, you know? Yeah. Amanda, what say you? Well, I see her face and I'm excited for one. No, I think, you know, I think Hillary and Jamie both spotlighted some of my favorite looks of the night, which I won't spoil because we were asked to prepare three. But I would say my favorite looks were sort of an exception. I, because I cover the movies and watch the show, I'm probably more focused on the Oscars carpet and show looks than Vanity Fair, but I found it to be a dearth of color.

11:21And I find myself increasingly like Dame Anna in my dotage. It's too much black. Black doesn't work. Who was wearing black and white but Anna? I know. So I found that I responded to the moments of color at the show as well. You guys are both right that there were fewer prom dresses, for lack of a better word. And I think that's always a good thing, I guess, in that sense. It was fashion forward because of my friendship with Lauren. I think I'm more immersed in fashion week and runway stuff than I used to be. And so it was interesting to, you know, it was Chanel versus Dior to some extent on the on the on the stage or among the nominees.

12:08And it was fun to see who was wearing what and who was interpreting them. And, you know, like a mini version of what what seemed to be the runway wars that are happening in Europe now that I enjoy. But yeah, I just I would like more color. I think it's it's the Oscars. And I you know, it's not the Met Gala. But for actors and actresses, it is kind of the Met Gala. And or it is it's it's Hollywood's biggest night, as they say. And everyone just kind of looked a little sludgy together. You know, it's funny. I also I was just looking at line sheet for Monday, the lineup of the photos that I chose for the looks, and it was all black and white.

12:53There was not one color. I thought red and green were pretty prominent, especially at Vanity Fair there's tons of red and I think that has to do with speaking of the the runway Matu Blasi's the the red and green being a thing that he kind of has made at Chanel and I noticed that more especially red and also just like a lot of embellishment because that is something that's happening on the runway a lot as well but I also Hannah Goldfield the writer at the New Yorker DM me and said, why was there so much black and white? And I said, I honestly think it was just, there's a lot of black on the runway right now.

13:34Like people are just wearing a lot of black right now in their own wardrobes. And so it felt to me like a little reflective of that, but that's interesting that Hillary, that you saw the more color and yeah, I also wonder, there was more white than black. Like, do you not agree? Yeah. So much white. Yes. There was a lot There was so much white, which I always like. Which is a color to me also. True, true. And also, I mean, the one thing that I talked about, and we don't have to get super into this on this episode because we have a lot of ground to cover, but someone mentioned to me just the corporatization of this process.

14:20Pretty much now, it's all big brands. And I thought that Monse, Fernando Garcia and Laura Kim's brand that, you know, they just left Oscar de la Renta. They had two really nice looks, including Jennifer Goodwin at the Oscars. And she looked great. And then also, you know, I can't remember anyone's names. Kristen. She's a wig. Kristen Wig at the Vanity Fair. And I thought it was a really cool dress. but generally I think that it's not it's this is not new it's not easy for these younger designers to get placement at the Oscars especially because like it's not even about having a contract you to be able to make a dress that looks is gonna look good and have an atelier that can like help a stylist and their tailors make it work is just really hard for a young designer and the amount of work that that is put into it.

15:20That kind of goes back to what I was saying. If you look at the Oscars in the 90s, right? Yeah. People were wearing slick dresses and things that you could tell that they procured on their own. Like it wasn't this thing that I'm like, will we ever go back to that? Yeah. Yeah. I think that it's like the question now is, well, this is a business and we are all participants in this business and you can't really extract yourself from the fact that these actors need to get contracts because the movies they make don't pay them what they used to pay and it is just this is the reality of it so can we make the red carpet interesting in that framework is I think the question I'm asking myself I think the answer is yes like we'll get into it but kirsten dunst in selene is a great example of i thought she looked awesome and it was she was just it was a great example of like she looked amazing she has amazing personal style everything michael rider's doing it selene is about personal style and so that was like the perfect red carpet moment to me but i think it's harder to pull that off when when it is so much about the business side of it.

16:42So we'll see, but I have hope. Also, don't you think that, I think part of what made it perfect as well is because she wasn't there for her own project. She was there supporting her husband. So it should be a little bit of a subtler moment than if it was for her, in my opinion. Yeah. Yes. Yes. She did the right thing in that scenario. Yeah. It is a choice. Yes. And I guarantee if she was nominated, she wouldn't have worn a black, You know, she wouldn't have learned that. Yeah, it's true.

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18:19So let's get into our favorite looks. Amanda, do you want to start? I feel like Kirsten Dunst might have been on your list. So you, well, you texted me about it this morning. So I assume she's going to be on your list. And I think what Hillary and Jamie were saying about context and that she's there. listen I will never call my beloved Kirsten Kiki Dunst who I do not know but worship a plus one but she was there as she was not there for her own film she was there um you know to have fun to add some glamour to the festivities that said I didn't love the black I think and she's been wearing black for the most part all all season long because she's been at a lot of these um and I even find that the the black with that what were the big sleeves Lauren who the pink sleeves don't remember oh it was valentino yeah the valentino i find that even i like responded to the the little bit of zhuzh that she gave her her black look over the season but yeah listen she looks amazing i didn't go with her though uh my first was already mentioned um and is also i i think one of the um the contract players but i thought it really worked out which was renata Rensby in Louis Vuitton, who I thought that it fit her, the actress, the personality, as I understand it, and also her vibe as the cool Norwegian actress in the Best International Feature win and fits the character, if you've seen the movie, who is at a remove throughout.

19:59and she looked really hot and I liked the design. And again, color. There just, there wasn't that much of it. So I thought she looked great. And I actually, she also looked very hot at the Vanity Fair party, but I am of course talking about her actual Oscar ceremony look. I'm with you. It also didn't feel like an Oscar, like it didn't feel like this overwhelming Oscar. Like there is something really simple and chic about it. She's on my list too. But I think Mikkel is really great at seeing the films and really like getting into that character and being like, okay, how should this connect on the carpet?

20:36And I love the storytelling. I've been watching what Carla has done with her for this whole season. And it's all been this like minimalist, interesting, but still thoughtful futurism. A lot of it obviously is with Gascar, but a lot of it is not. And all of it has had that sort of cool girl through line, minimal with some sheer detailing. And so I thought this was like the perfect culmination of it. My favorite iteration of that was the Simone Rocha at the event over the weekend. I just loved it. Yes. I thought it was so, it also was very Scandi of like what is popular in those cultures. Like you could almost see her putting a pair of sneakers on with it.

21:18Yeah. Am I allowed to wear those Asics from sentimental value? I keep meaning to ask you this. Yeah, of course. like but you know am i is it is it too much are they too big or can i a lay mom wear those lauren doesn't she doesn't she doesn't think you should is okay yeah that's why i'm asking this is i need to see them i don't remember feedback okay you moved to paris i can't ask you in person so okay i don't remember them i'm gonna look them up but i do remember thinking that i thought it was interesting that elle fanning was her wardrobe was provided by saint Laurent. And I, and my joke, our joke was Renata Rensby's wardrobe was provided by Arkit.

22:01Yeah, which is the H &M owned Uniqlo thing that I'm obsessed with. It just I was like, she's just wearing Arkit. It's so funny. I'm obsessed with Arkit. We know. It's the best place to buy kids clothes in the whole world. I've gone in two countries already in actually three countries in Europe since I've arrived here on February 21st. I'll look up the sneakers and I'll let you know. But that's interesting. I liked it. Amanda, maybe, you know what, let's move on. Hillary, let's hopscotch around. Hillary, you had Renata on your list. Who else was on your list? So I am a romantic and also I love black and white, even though I just said I like color.

22:45So for me, it was actually Rose Byrne in Dior and Tayana Taylor in Chanel. So I love those two. I just thought beautifully executed. I love the craftsmanship. I love the texture and the detail. Those were my two. I loved Rose Byrne and Chanel. I mean, sorry, I loved Rose Byrne in Dior. I thought it was great. I thought it was the best. I thought Mia Goff looked really good in Dior too. And I'm not just saying that because you're here, Jamie. I thought that dress was so lovely. It was my favorite of the white looks for real. You would just skirt over it. And I loved, I actually loved the Vanity Fair one because it was a little weirder.

23:26Because she has like a kind of a like weird girl vibe. And I mean that as a compliment. And I thought that the Dior, the like bustle on the black dress was really, really fun. um but i love to me to me she's a fashion girl to me she can she can play with things and i also think there's like kind of this frankenstein through line of like trying to be romantic and a bit gothic but ethereal that was the goal through the whole thing she looked fab uh but Back to Rose for a minute. And that necklace. Oh, my God. That necklace. Taffin. It was a beautiful Taffin piece. But I thought that was such a chic.

24:10Like, I noticed. When she came out, I was like, very cool to wear a Taffin. Yeah. Totally. I was like, respect. Unexpected. Beautiful. Among the Cartier Tiffany, all this. It's like, it was like, I see you. And I appreciate this. Agreed. And I just thought it was like the best example of, you know, Dior, the first couple months of the red carpet were really tough. And I think like if you asked Jonathan Anderson about it, he probably would say, acknowledge that it was like a slow start. but I think that they really nailed it with fit last night with all the dresses and also the obviously the men's stuff was was good too but I just thought like that was a great example of couture being reinterpreted for the runway and then shout out to Kate Young who I don't Rose Byrne is seems lovely and Amanda I know she was your pick for best actress I think she doesn't seem like a person who she's not she's not as Jamie as you said she's she doesn't seem like a fashion girl and I think Kate has done a really good job of just making her look really good in beautiful dresses that like a person who saw if I had legs and kick you whatever if I had legs I'd kick you yeah I'm never seeing this movie because it's I think I'd be depressed but um this movie about like 40 something moms who have a tough time.

25:41I think all the people who relate to that movie would love what she's been wearing. And I just think Kate's done a really good job dressing her. I loved it. And I also love Tiana Taylor. And I just, she has so much personal style. And I think she really took advantage of the sort of technique stuff that Mattou Blasi is doing at Chanel, but like made it her own. And I really appreciated that too. You always loved Tiana. you have like a real she's like you're one she just always looks good no matter how she just is beautiful and cool and she's incredible I also want a special shout out to Pedro Pascal because that was the that was my favorite men's look that's one of my three it was awesome did you see the change into the scarf after or did no one see it because we got in a fight about it I was like, I was like, can you do one on the carpet and one when you present?

26:39And he was like, I just love this so much. I just want to wear it on the carpet in the present. And I was like, OK, you have to do it. I was like, you're either going to Vanity Fair or you have to change after you present. And so he changed after he presented. Well, he just threw on a vest and a jacket. And, you know, my Jack Nicholson reference of the scarf, that like purple scarf. Yeah, of course. Like the most perfect. and Chanel like made the most beautiful brocade, like lilac colored scarf. And when I saw him sitting in the stands, I was like, no one's going to see this, but I see it and I appreciate you.

27:16No, Jamie, what I liked about it was of all of the Chanel looks, it most replicated the feeling that I've had looking at the Chanel runway of being like, no, no, no, I want to wear that. And I don't think I could wear most of the Chanel things that were shown last night and certainly not at the Chanel dinner, which maybe we can talk about at some point. But some of the fits, I guess we ran out of time. But it worked. I understood it. I had a yearning to wear it. He looked so comfortable. And it also, I recognized it instantly. I was like, oh, he's doing Chanel. It's very fun. So I thought it was a great interpretation.

27:55I feel like Jamie you kicked off so much of men and brooches as the trend has been and now everyone is doing it so I also love the fact that it felt like the next iteration of like you are brooch here we go I'm trying to go in I'm trying to go into flowers I'm trying to go into real flowers and that's what felt great for me I noticed that I was like okay she's gone from one to the next thing because now everyone's doing the thing and by the way funny I got in a I got in like a little tiff with Jeremy last night as he was leaving. And I was like, you're wearing, you're wearing this Boucheron vintage brooch.

28:27And he was like, everyone wears a brooch. I was like, I, I started everyone wearing, you're wearing a fucking brooch. Here I am. I'm giving you credit. I'm calling you out for that. Um, but I think the next, we need, we need other options, which I think are, are like Eric Budabao will like wrap a flower in silk and make a little boutonniere. And I'm like, this is really nice. And last night I saw Dan Constable and I was like, I see you. Yeah. Did you see him? I don't know if he posted anything for himself. By the way, I just want to say I also love man jewelry. So I want men to wear brooches. I want them to have more flair.

29:03I want it to be interesting. I am not mad at this trend that you have started. Can I say I thought Michael B. Jordan's I thought Michael B. Jordan was fantastic. And I thought his coat was really interesting and I really appreciated his outfit. I thought he and Ryan Kukor both looked really good. Yeah. He was one of my tops. Who else, Jamie? It's very me, but Gwyneth and Emma. It's just very... You know? They both look great. Tiana, I would say as well. Especially after. I just appreciated the simplicity of Gwyneth and the hair and the strapless and the side. And I just thought it was nice. I loved it.

29:54Yeah. That shoulder and the back. And it was so good. But yeah, Michael B., there was someone, there was someone, hold on, I got to look through my, I don't know. I have like an appreciation for the men too. I always love Jacob. He's just like tall and handsome. I love him in a like vest with that. It's just it's just cool to me. The mustache was last night on a Lordy. And did you see the meme of where it was like Pedro gave his facial hair to Leo? Yeah, like really got me. I loved it. I like a mustache to be honest. I do, too. I guess it's like a Tom Selleck thing, I guess. I was very into it.