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18:37Jordan Hoffman:Just in general, again, like Eric Bana on that mountain, nothing is, the hand is heavy here. Everything is really layered, really thick. Nothing is here by accident and no line of dialogue that no matter how casual it seems, I mean, or not casual, because I mean, they don't, nothing is casual in this movie. They're really making it very obvious.

18:57Matt Singer:But I thought Taron Egerton was a compelling villain. Very creepy. Yeah, he was good. He was good. You made it. It's me from the gas station. Hey. You having fun? Something got into my gear last night and took everything. I'm sorry. It's a drastic bummer. You hungry? Just kind of looking for that gear. So look, it's very simple. You've got until the very end of this song to get as far away from me as you can. You got the right shoes on? You'll be fine. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us. The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country.

19:42From iHeart Podcasts, Saigon. Please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much. I like hearing you talk. One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart. This is for Vietnam. I've taken a hit from Japanese ground fire Do you read me? They're pouring petrol all over him He's holding matches I'm on a landmine For freedom Get out Saigon starring Kelly Marie Tran and Rob Benedict Sting, here's madness The world should hear about this There's a fire coming to this country And it's going to burn out everything Listen to Saigon On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

20:30Hello, gorgeous. It's Lala Kent, host of Untraditionally Lala. My days of filling up cups at Sur may be over, but I'm still loving life in the valley. Life on the other side of the hill is giving grown-up vibes, but over here on my podcast, Untraditionally Lala, I'm still that Lala you either love or love to hate. I've been full-on oversharing with fans, family, and former frenemies like Tom Schwartz. I had a little bone to pick with Schwartzy when he came on the pod. You don't feel bad that you told me I was a bootleg housewife? I almost flipped a pizza in your lap. I was so pissed. Oh my God, I literally forgot about that until just now.

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21:53direct center of our happiness or our regrets is whether or not we're taking action on the things

21:59Matt Singer:that matter to us. They're not selfish. They're so important. They actually lead to our greatest contributions because when we're living fulfilled, we actually show up better everywhere. We lead better. We're better friends. We're better relationships and collaborators and all those things because we have passion about the things we're doing. If you're trying to build something of your own this year, join us in these conversations that will make you braver and smarter with your money. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

22:31I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. I was like, hi, dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen and she says, I have some cookies and milk. This is a badass convict. Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk. Yeah, mom. Yeah. On the Sino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience, and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation, and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Addish, Johnny Knoxville, and more.

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23:30Jordan Hoffman:I will say there were times where he was almost so disturbing I almost don't want to watch the film, you know what I mean?

23:35Matt Singer:Yeah, I really wanted him to get his comeuppance.

23:37Jordan Hoffman:He did a good job of being the bad guy. He's riding a wave that's dangerous because you can tip over into like, I don't want to actually watch you torture this woman. I just want to turn off. You're just so creepy and weird. I want to turn it off. But I felt he kind of, he walked that line close enough that, yes, I would agree. I think he gives a pretty good bad guy performance. And I will say there was, this is one of those movies where suddenly something happens and I go, oh, this is what the whole movie should have been about. I mean, it might be getting too close to an ending and a spoiler as well.

24:17Jordan Hoffman:So maybe we can also discuss this in a very brief spoiler. Spoiler zone. The SZ. But basically like an hour and 15 minutes into this 90 minute movie, it arrives at a point in the story where I was suddenly extremely interested in what's going to happen. And I was like, a better movie would make this the crux of the movie rather than just typical running and shooting and whitewater acting. Which was all fine.

24:44Matt Singer:I mean, it wasn't poorly made. I mean, the issue we discussed with the CG was poor. But I meant like, Charlize is a great, you know, she's on the run. She's got a madman shooting stuff at her. She's handcuffed. But she's got to think her way out of each problem. I mean, she's compelling. I mean, she's Charlize. She's the best. I mean, that part is good. And the look is good. I will say, and you tell me, there were at least two moments, probably more, where she really had an opportunity to end this movie. Well, yes. I'm like, just do that. Just kill him. Just do that. And she didn't. Like, she was doing something else.

25:27Matt Singer:This is not a long movie, and it feels like it could be half as long.

25:31Jordan Hoffman:because there are several cases where both characters seem to be prolonging this cat and mouse game for the purposes of only prolonging it to a length that will satisfy - To make a feature length. Yes, the people who deem a feature needs to be 90 minutes long.

25:49Matt Singer:Well, I mean, he I could understand because he's, you know, this is his thrill. He's crazy. But the first time is when she sprays him with the bear mace or whatever, pepper spray. Sure, pepper spray. And he's like, and then she runs up the hill to try and get her foot out of the thing. It's like, no, you have an opportunity right now to take a rock and smash his head in, which she does try to do later. So she's not above head smashing with a rock. She was like, I'm like, smash his head in, you fool. You have your opportunity or try to drown him, which also she tries to do later. And then later when his foot's all mangled and he's screaming, like she really had several moments where it was just like, and now I finish you.

26:28Matt Singer:but it didn't happen and it was very very frustrating but yes that's life so sam is

26:34Jordan Hoffman:sending us a note saying that he thinks no one listening cares about spoilers uh they've either seen it or they never will see it or they're watching because we spoiled it so all right i think we've talked enough anyway that we can now let's get into these spoilers this is your last

26:49Matt Singer:chance here's what's on your mind i'm gonna blow everybody's mind they go into the convenience store before she's going off on her vision quest into the great outback. Yes. And she buys her supplies and then she's like, oh, this is my Charlize impression. Oh, what's this? Some beef jerky. I'll buy that.

27:07Jordan Hoffman:My eyes are closed and I feel like I'm on a Zoom call with Charlize there. And Charlize, I loved you in Mad Max.

27:13Matt Singer:She was great. She buys some beef jerky and this is like minute 18. I'm like, oh, that beef jerky is the dead flesh of humans that she's going to find in a cave later. And it was. Now, here's what's amazing. Later, we find out that Taron Egerton is not only beef jerkyizing his previous victims. Yes. He has like a whole thing about his mother. Like he's trying to like live up to the memory of his ghost mother. And he's crazy. There is a movie that came out this year that is now streaming called The Hermit, which nobody on planet Earth watched. It came out literally four to six weeks ago.

27:51Jordan Hoffman:I never even heard of it.

27:52Matt Singer:No, I actually reviewed this film for Fangoria.com. Okay. And the only reason I reviewed it is because Lou Ferrigno is in it. And I have a fondness for you. And Lou Ferrigno plays a madman in the woods who traps people and turns them into beef jerky to please the ghost of his mother. What? Not enough meat. Too skinny. so charlie sterron's apex directed by baltazar k whatever his last name is baltazar k has ripped off the hermit starring this is a case of parallel thinking

28:34Jordan Hoffman:but yes that is unbelievable that that two movies could have a mystery beef jerky subplot in the

28:42Matt Singer:span of a couple of months it's amazing the hermit is one more one more and we got a trend

28:46Jordan Hoffman:Jordan you know what they say three and you can write a think piece about a trend I'm hoping it happens we're gonna see in like in like a month and a half in slate.com what's with all these

28:54Matt Singer:beef jerky human meat movies well I mean the hermit is um in a way somewhat superior to apex because it's so stupid and so z-grade but I will say some of the action in the apex is good um and you and Taron Egerton is is good and Charlene's Taron Egerton is better than good he's great in this i'd say he's good plus and charlene's is very good so let me tell you let me let me tell

29:18Jordan Hoffman:you my little spoilery element that i liked and we'll see what you thought about this i'm ready what i was intrigued by was an hour and 10 15 minutes into this movie through as as we've already noted through like sort of a a fog of plot extending circumstances that are a little ridiculous you wind up in a scenario where they are tethered together by like a wire and handcuffs or whatever yeah and and to escape they will they will they are going to need to work together they're like in a gorge or a valley and they have to climb now again this is another spoilery thing um which you know you saw the beef jerky and you're like this beef jerky is made of people I saw them tethered together and said, okay, well, she's going to have to free herself of her guilt by letting go of another man, this time an act of ritual cleansing.

30:12Jordan Hoffman:I knew that was coming. But I will say the idea of being chained to a madman in the wilderness and having to sort of work together to escape, that's kind of a fun idea. It's like the Defiant Ones meets the River Wild or something. I'm like, okay, now you're giving me some, this is an idea with some juice. But it's the end. It's like the last five minutes. He's already got like, by the time they start working together, he's got a gangrenous leg. He can't do anything. And it's very obvious. Like, this should be very dramatic and suspenseful, but like, he's already maimed at this point. We know what's going to happen.

30:51Jordan Hoffman:There's no way that he can do anything to her. He's going to threaten her. She's going to let him go. Like, it's very obvious. It's sort of a fait accompli at that point. But I will say that idea is kind of fun. And they have a scene where they're like, we're going to have to work together. And I'm like kind of rubbing my hands together.

31:08Matt Singer:It's like, oh, suddenly this became a good movie.

31:09Jordan Hoffman:Yeah, there's a little juice in this scene.

31:11Matt Singer:I like a little juice. Give me some juice. I want the juice. It was good. And I just find, you know, I've never understood mountain climbing. It's like. But you look like such an outdoorsman. No, I've never understood how do you get the notches in there. And this kind of shows it. She's sticking a rope into a hole, a crag, I guess. And it's like, yeah, that's enough to carry. It just seems to me, you see mountain climbing, like Free Solo, I understand. He just goes and he finds a way. But when they have the bolts in there, it's like, who's drilling the bolts? Well, this kind of shows it a little bit.

31:51Matt Singer:You know, a rock wall at the Crunch Fitness, I understand. This is much different. How do you do it? I got to say, anybody who climbs a mountain is a moron. And they deserve to fall to their deaths like Eric Bennett. There's no reason to do it. There's so many better ways to get exercise. If you want to have a nice view, take a drive, you know. But to climb a mountain like this, I have no sympathy for those people who drop dead. Every year they try to climb K2. And forget it. No sympathy for me. None. Zero. Yes.

32:22Jordan Hoffman:And I will say that I've always wondered, how do they make beef jerky? And now you learned about rock climbing and I learned about jerky production. It's terrible. It's terrible. This is a very educational film all around. Maybe it's not a masterpiece. No. It's okay. Is it the best movie we've watched so far out of three? Probably, I guess.

32:43Matt Singer:You know that I have a weird fondness for balls up, but I will. Let's put it this way. If I were to go in the other room right now and my wife were to be on the couch and she were to be opening the Netflix and she says, hey, there's this new movie with Charlize. Should I watch it? I'd say, yeah, it's not bad. You know, I mean, have you read Brothers Karamazov? Have you read War and Peace? I mean, if you've gotten those checked off, then yes, you should watch this, you know. And then what if she responds by saying, you know, we should go rock climbing sometime. How do you respond in that scenario?

33:14Matt Singer:I like to take a nice path with a map and like a little string that you can hold on to on the side. They have now some parks. I like going to parks, you know, but like I said earlier, with a guide. I've never been to Australia. I hope to someday. But when I do go, I'm not rough. Stay away from the convenience store jerky.

33:36Jordan Hoffman:That's the lesson here. So that is Apex, and it is streaming now on Netflix. We make a good team, don't we, eh? That was our review of Apex, but maybe you don't want to watch Apex. Maybe you already watched Apex. Maybe you have a fear of heights, and watching a movie about rock climbing isn't your cup of tea. Maybe you just hate all people who rock climb and wish death upon them like Jordan. I don't. I guess I did say that. You literally did. That's what you said.

34:10Matt Singer:I didn't mean it. I take it back. He takes it back.

34:13Jordan Hoffman:OK, good. Now, there's more. Wait. Maybe you have a fear of Welsh actors doing Australian accents. Did you have a problem with Taron Egerton's accent in the film? Oh, I thought his accent was quite good. I bought it.

34:27Matt Singer:And you did say you've never been to Australia, right?

34:30Jordan Hoffman:Never. You mentioned that.

34:31Matt Singer:Never been. Yeah.

34:32Jordan Hoffman:Or maybe you have a fear of watching people climb rocks barefoot. Did you have a problem with that, Jordan? The end of the movie, Charlize is a lot of close-ups of her feet.

34:41Matt Singer:Are you asking me if I liked seeing Charlize Theron's feet? Were you really going there?

34:45Jordan Hoffman:Yeah, maybe I'm not. How are you going to respond?

34:47Matt Singer:I had no issue with that aspect of Apex. Moving on.

34:54Jordan Hoffman:That's why every week on SVU, we have Brexit. Brexit. RECSAC! Where we give you two streaming recommendations inspired by this week's review. We give you two random recommendations of things Jordan and I have watched recently ourselves, and for the first time, we each have a personalized recommendation where Jordan and I give one of our listeners some suggestions catered specifically to the services that they use and the kind of movie they want to watch. These are movies guaranteed. They will love them guaranteed or they will get their money back. And remember, this podcast is free as hell. Now, let's start, Jordan.

35:40Jordan Hoffman:Why don't you go first? What is your pick for a related recommendation this week?

35:45Matt Singer:I'm pro-Taron Egerton. That guy's all right in my book. Okay. Whether he's playing an Australian man or not. Yeah, or whether he's playing Rocket Man. Oh. The Elton John biopic. because this movie has been much on my mind. In theaters right now is a motion picture called Michael, making a lot of money and causing a little bit of controversy for a couple of reasons. The movie Michael, in my opinion, is bad. It is not good. I mean, the music's great and the dance sequences are great and that's, you know, that's fine. I think the movie is just a piece of junk. It's just a poorly made film.

36:27Jordan Hoffman:You thought it was not kind enough to Michael. It should have been more fawning and more positive.

36:31Matt Singer:It's just garbage. It's just a garbage made for TV piece of trash. And then there is, of course, the element of the fact that there is a there is an awful lot of evidence to suggest that Michael Jackson was, in fact, a serial molester of children, which is nothing to joke about. And obviously, you know, the movie is not about his entire life, but the movie is very praiseworthy of this guy that is a very that leaves a very difficult legacy. Let's put it that way. And then, you know, other musical biopics lately kind of haven't really hit. I thought the Springsteen movie, and it pains me to say this because I love The Boss.

37:08Matt Singer:It was not that good. And what hurts me so much is that Bruce likes the movie. And I want to support my friend Bruce. We love Bruce.

37:18Jordan Hoffman:We love Bruce.

37:19Matt Singer:I just saw him. I saw him a week ago with friend of the pod, Chris Rosen. We went in Newark. It was great.

37:25Jordan Hoffman:You were following him around Freehold?

37:26Matt Singer:Or are you just... No, we went to, we went to, was he at Jersey Freeze? No, I saw him at the frigging where the devils play. Oh, the Prudential Center. I saw, I saw the man and his, and the E Street band. You went to see his show. I went to see the man in concert. I spent a lot of money to go and I had a great time. So, but anyway, the movie, it hurts me. It's not good. It's boring. And I, I, it could have been better. And then, you know, Bohemian Rhapsody certainly made a zillion dollars. It won. I think Rimey Malek is very good in it, But it's not also it's like a lame movie. But here, Hiding in Plain Sight is a good musical biopic that's recent.

38:04Matt Singer:Rocketman came out in the year of our Lord 2019. By my math, that's still relatively recent. And it was directed by Dexter Fletcher, who shadow directed Bohemian Rhapsody. And it is what these things should be. It tells the story of the guy's life. it packs all the songs in there and it has some panache it has it has storytelling and visual panache it kind of feels like a broadway musical put to screen for those who haven't seen rocket man um what it does is it has these flights of fancy when they break into song they have musical numbers and that's something that that you're not seeing in these other in these other films and why not do it that way instead of having it like these montages or these like they're in the studio coming up with the riffs.

38:50Matt Singer:It's like play to the strengths. Now, granted, Elton John's music is very theatrical and it lends itself to that. But anyway, you know, I don't even want to compare it to the other films. Let's just compare it to itself. It's just damn good. And for whatever reason, it wasn't a big success. It wasn't a flop. Like it made, it made decent money, but it wasn't, didn't do as well as it should have. And I don't think as many people remember it as they should And I am just a big fan of Rocket Man. And I think Taron Egerton is sensational in it. Full stop. You love the movie, too, right?

39:25Jordan Hoffman:It certainly was probably the best of that bunch that you mentioned. I can't say that it's lingered in my memory all that well. Did you mention where people can watch it right now?

39:35Matt Singer:I don't know. I think I'm watching it on TV. That's what we're here to do. Oh, well, it's let me go to hold on. It's probably on one of the streams. Everything's like four bucks on... It's on... Hold on. It's$4 on Amazon, probably. It's... Paramount Plus. It's on Paramount Plus.

39:54Jordan Hoffman:Producer Sam's helping you out.

39:56Matt Singer:You know, I see... It's available on Paramount Plus. If you subscribe to Paramount Plus, and if you don't, you can rent it for$4 on Amazon or Apple or Fandango at Home, formerly known as Voodoo, and Bazooka. But not Bazooka. It's not on Bazooka.

40:12Jordan Hoffman:I think Bazooka had it. And then they lost it. There was a fight over the rights.

40:18Matt Singer:You should watch it again. You should put your Paramount Plus on. Maybe I will. Maybe I will. It's pretty damn good.

40:22Jordan Hoffman:I would say that it's probably the strongest of, I mean, it's certainly better than Michael. It's certainly better than Bohemian Rhapsody. And yeah, it probably is better than the Springsteen movie, which maybe I liked a little more than you. But certainly I would say it was a disappointment compared to my expectations as a fellow fan of The Boss and as a fan of Jeremy Allen White. That one, it just didn't quite bring it home.

40:43Matt Singer:You know, I want to see it again because I went in guns blazing and I'm like, this? This is what I'm seeing? Ugh, I don't know. He's good, though. I like that guy.

40:50Jordan Hoffman:He's a very good actor. I don't know if that was his finest hour.

40:54Matt Singer:Yeah. And, you know, Rocketman was not a flop. It made$200 million worldwide on a$40 million budget. It's not a flop. I ain't stretched.

41:02Jordan Hoffman:But it's definitely well below the Bohemian Rhapsody threshold.

41:07Matt Singer:And it's so much better than Bohemian Rhapsody. What is your pick, Matt Singer?

41:10Jordan Hoffman:Well, this is nice because you went with Taron Edgerton. And I went with Charlize. I've got a Charlize film. Thought, given her and given Apex, why not pay homage to the undisputed queen of the Netflix action movie that she is way too qualified to be doing? Yeah. The first one of these that I can recall and still my favorite is my recommendation. It is The Old Guard from 2020. It is available, as I mentioned, on Netflix. This is based on a comic book that I haven't read, actually. by a writer that I tend to really like, a gentleman by the name of Greg Rucka. I've read quite a few of his comics, but not this one.

41:50Jordan Hoffman:So I should get around to reading it at some point. The film, though, is about this team of immortal warriors who cannot be killed. So they spend their endless eternal lives roaming the earth. They're kind of like an unkillable A-team. You know, they're a crack commando unit. They're still wanted by the government. They survive as soldiers of fortune. And they're a government. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the old guard.

42:25Matt Singer:And it's a pun.

42:26Jordan Hoffman:Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. What's that?

42:29Matt Singer:It's a pun. They're old because they've been around for centuries and they're guarding people.

42:32Jordan Hoffman:It is a pun. It is a pun. I'm sure. The title is a pun. Yes. Um, in an era where we are constantly reminded that movie stars are not what they once were, especially at the box office, something like the old guard, I feel like really proves the value of a great star like Charlize. I mean, in some ways, that's true of Apex, too, I suppose. Her mere presence adds a lot to these movies in terms of the dramatic weight, in terms of the credibility of the action, in terms of having someone gorgeous to look at for two hours and six minutes. Let's not forget about that aspect. And in terms of premises, I am not sure there is a more plausible premise for a film on Netflix than Charlize Theron is actually an immortal warrior who has lived for centuries, righting wrongs, protecting the innocent and looking magnificent.

43:25Jordan Hoffman:I believe that. You don't have to convince me. I'm sold immediately.

43:29Matt Singer:And there are some pretty thrilling, maybe not impressive action set pieces in this film.

43:34Jordan Hoffman:The action is better in the old guard than it is in overall than an apex. There's a lot of fighting and shooting.

43:41Matt Singer:And old guard, it's funny because there's old guard. There is an old guard to an atomic blonde was beforehand. That's a Netflix or also, right?

43:49Jordan Hoffman:Well, it may be on Netflix. I don't know. Played in theaters. They get theaters. Okay.

43:53Matt Singer:It's funny. There's another movie when we were prepping our little podcast and I was thinking also I was considering old guard and I was saying, what's that other one? Charlize is in. It's in Netflix. It's like The Old Guard. And I discovered a movie that I could have sworn she was in, but she's not. Have you ever seen the Netflix original Gunpowder Milkshake?

44:18Jordan Hoffman:I certainly have heard of it. I'm struggling to remember if I have watched it.

44:22Matt Singer:It's the same as The Old Guard without Charlize. It's with Taron... Oh, hell, what is her name? The Old Guard. Edgerton? No, no, no. She's in The Guardians of the Galaxy. Hold on. What is her name? Do, do, do. I didn't think I'd be talking about this. That's why I didn't look it up. You brought it up. Karen Gillan. Karen Gillan. Karen Gillan stars.

44:45Jordan Hoffman:I think I did see this movie on Netflix.

44:48Matt Singer:She stars as We Didn't Get Charlize Theron. That's what she stars as. And it's everybody else. Michelle Yeoh is in it and Lena Headley and Carla Gugino. All the gang is in this. and they run around and they smash things and they save the day. And I could have sworn Charlize was in it and I'm Googling and Googling and I couldn't find it and I thought that was kind of funny. But it's a fine movie. It may as well be The Old Guard 3 and nobody would know the difference.

45:21Jordan Hoffman:Well, in terms of The Old Guard 1, I do think it's a good enough time, certainly, to watch on Netflix. it's kind of a less stupid and less silly version of Highlander, but it does have good action. It's well-directed by Gina Prince-Bythewood, who is kind of an underrated filmmaker, has made a lot of good movies, Love and Basketball, The Woman King, my favorite, Beyond the Lights, one of my favorite movies. That's a real movie. That's an actual movie.

45:48Matt Singer:Actual movies.

45:49Jordan Hoffman:And she gives this one the gloss of an actual movie, too. I think this is worth watching. Look, if I'm looking for a Charlize movie on Netflix, I'm going to watch The Old Guard again before I rewatch Apex, I will say. So that is my related recommendation this week. That's The Old Guard on Netflix.

46:10Matt Singer:Not the Apex of choices. Oh, well.

46:13Jordan Hoffman:No, no. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us. The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country. From iHeart Podcast, Saigon. Please allow me to introduce Joseph Sherman. You don't think I'm serious about a free Vietnam? I should stop talking so much. I like hearing you talk. One city, a divided country, and the war that tore America apart. This is for Vietnam. I've taken a hit from Japanese ground fire. Do you read me? They're pouring petrol all over him. He's holding matches. I'm on a landmine! For freedom! Let's get out!

46:55Freedom! Saigon, starring Kelly Marie Tran and Rob Benedict. Sting, here's madness. The world should hear about this. There's a fire coming to this country, and it's going to burn out everything. Listen to Saigon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. hello gorgeous it's lala kent host of untraditionally lala my days of filling up cups at sir may be over but i'm still loving life in the valley life on the other side of the hill is giving grown-up vibes but over here on my podcast untraditionally lala i'm still that lala you either love or love to hate i've been full-on over sharing with fans family and former frenemies like tom schwartz i had a little bone to pick with schwartzy when he came on the pod you don't feel bad that you told me I was a bootleg housewife?

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48:43Matt Singer:on the things that matter to us. They're not selfish. They're so important. They actually lead to our greatest contributions because when we're living fulfilled, we actually show up better everywhere. We lead better, we're better friends, we're better relationships and collaborators and all those things because we have passion about the things we're doing. If you're trying to build something of your own this year, join us in these conversations that will make you braver and smarter with your money. Listen to Dos Amigos as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

49:15I went and sat on the little ottoman in front of him. I was like, hi, dad. And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen and she says, I have some cookies and milk. This is badass convict. Right. Just finished five years. I'm going to have cookies and milk at mom's. Yeah. On the Sino Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor, cultural icon Danny Trail to talk about addiction, transformation and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge, featuring powerful conversations with guests like Tiffany Adish, Johnny Knoxville and more.

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50:15Jordan Hoffman:All right, let's get to our random recommendations. It's just something, anything we have watched recently. What is your pick this week, Jordan? I know you were kind of waffling here. Which one to talk about?

50:25Matt Singer:I'm going to go in with, I'm going to be honest here. um i well i did watch roommates which is a new to netflix film with adam sandler's daughter which i did not care for at all i have nothing i have nothing i have nothing positive nor negative to say about that movie the movie doesn't even exist i saw it five days ago i don't remember any of it but i also because i'm preparing a piece that i'm writing for another outlet about there's a forthcoming animal farm andy circus is doing an animal farm which i have not seen yet i was doing my due diligence and I watched both previous Animal's Farm, I guess you could say.

51:04Matt Singer:And there is one from the... So I watched both of them today. They're both available on Amazon Prime. If you are a subscriber, they're free. If you're not a subscriber, they're four bucks each. The first Animal Farm came out in 1953, 54. I did not know until today that it was partially financed by the CIA. Oh. Because Animal Farm is an anti-Soviet book written by George. I should probably take a step back for those who don't know who didn't have it assigned to them in ninth grade. It was a book written by novella written by George Orwell, who was a leftist thinker, but an anti-Soviet. And it's about how Soviet style communism was not so hot.

51:47Matt Singer:Joseph Stalin, not the nicest guy in the world. So the first one. take the first one is quite good i mean it's it's it's got like hand-drawn animation and the narration is good and i was surprised i've seen it before i saw it when i was a kid i was like oh this animal farm is kind of good but what i did not know is that in 1999 not during the height of the cold war 1999 soon after the fall of the berlin wall so a totally different world there was an animal farm made for made for TV and it actually won some Emmys. And it is a live action movie in which the animals are a hybrid of actual animals, pigs and sheep and goats and horses and all that.

52:35Matt Singer:And then there's Jim Henson animatronics. And it looks really, really good. And I was just like, hey, this is actually kind of great. Now, I am going to tell you who voices some of these animals. The main character you could say, and it's new to the 99 version, because there are no women in the first Animal Farm, so they took, I'm not going to bore you, but they took the character of Benjamin the donkey and made her a dog. And Julia Ormond is the dog. Paul Schofield, who was still alive in 1999. He is the boxer. The he represents the hard workers who are beaten down by the Stalinism. Old Major, who is the Karl Marx character, is Peter Ustinov.

53:24Matt Singer:Wow. Julia Louis-Dreyfus is a voice of a horse. Ian Holm is the is the kind of snotty character sucking up to the Stalin character. I'm getting to the good stuff here. Kelsey Grammer is the Trotsky character, Snowball. And there's like shots, there's shots of a pig painting with a hoof. And you hear Frasier doing an English accent. For animalism to prosper, we must convert all the animals on all the farms.

53:58Jordan Hoffman:We must send our pigeons out to spread the message of revolution. Does he hear the blues a-calling at any point?

54:07Matt Singer:the main villain for those who read animal farm in ninth grade is napoleon he is the representation of joseph stalin okay and he's bad he's evil and he's voiced take a guess who who's the i've given you a lot of british actors 1999 who i'm gonna say give me the biggest one

54:28Jordan Hoffman:you got i'm gonna say based on looking at the wikipedia page while you've been rambling on i'm I was going to say, it's Patrick Stewart.

54:35Matt Singer:It's frigging Picard as Stalin the pig. And he's like a sloppy pig getting drunk on whiskey. Like, oh, I'm like, holy shit. This is the, how have I never seen this before? This is amazing.

54:49Jordan Hoffman:And this is, these are animatronic animals?

54:51Matt Singer:It's a mix of actual, you know, like the adventures of Milo and Otis animals. And then when they go in for the closeups of them talking, it's an animatronic. It's like Jabba the Hutt, but, you know, style. And I'm telling you, forget my love of Picard and just all that in general. It's actually pretty. I mean, Animal Farm is a compelling story, obviously. It's very well made. And then it's got Patrick Stewart as the evil pig. What more could anyone want in entertainment? So I give this a strong endorsement if you want to see something that's going to blow your mind. there's no way this future one with Andy Serkis can compare and I did not know this existed I probably was direct to TNT or something I don't know where it aired Hallmark Entertainment was one of the production companies yeah it went straight to via I mean I it showed somewhere in the USA on television maybe in Britain it was on the BBC or something but it's um it's surprisingly watchable and it's also not that long oh TNT it was on TNT there you go that's

55:57Jordan Hoffman:And who does Jonathan Frakes play in this one? Is he like the sidekick of the Stalin character?

56:06Matt Singer:No, that's Ian Holm. That's Ian Holm, actually.

56:09Jordan Hoffman:No, they missed a real chance there.

56:10Matt Singer:And Pete Postlewaite plays the drunken farmer, who's like, are there geese attacking me? Cor, blimey. You know, it's pretty great. And then Brett Spiner is who? Who is he? Marina Sirtis is not. Tasha Yar is not in this either. the crystalline entity does not make an appearance nor does Lore Data's half-brother the fellow Soong class android oh boy I've really opened a Pandora's box here

56:41Jordan Hoffman:is there a next generation episode called Pandora's box? there must be where they find a box and they open it no I think that's the one with

56:51Matt Singer:Moriarty when they first go into, isn't that called Pandora's box? or maybe it's a

56:56Jordan Hoffman:I can't believe you have to look this up. I can't believe you don't just know this off the top of the dome. Shame on you. I am ashamed. Shame on you, Jordan. I am ashamed.

57:04Matt Singer:While you're looking this up, let's get to my random recommendation.

57:09Jordan Hoffman:Yeah. Mine this week is inspired by the upcoming release of Pixar's Toy Story 5 with that movie kind of looming on the horizon. I just kind of got a weird itch to watch all of Pixar's short films. which are streaming on Disney+. If you want to watch these and you don't have Disney +, quite a few of them, pretty much all the early ones, are on YouTube. You can just find them on YouTube. A lot of the later ones, the more recent ones, are harder to find there. You're going to need Disney +, for a lot of those. And as a movie lover in my 40s, I think it's almost, I'm required by law to care about Pixar.

57:58Jordan Hoffman:Not just like the movies, but there's this weird, I don't know, compulsion I feel sometimes. Like when they have a new thing coming out to contemplate the history of the company. Have they lost their way? Is it time for a comeback? Do they have too many sequels? Is Lightyear about Buzz Lightyear the toy? Or is it the origin story of the human Buzz Lightyear that the toy is based on? and so on and so forth. And I fully admit that it is very weird that I think about these things and that I almost care about this company that I have no financial stake in, no relationship with, other than just being a fan of their movies since the original Toy Story came out when I was probably like 13, 14 years old when that happened, but I kind of do.

58:45Jordan Hoffman:And one of the things I do like about Disney +, which I subscribe to, I have little kids,

58:51Matt Singer:I almost it's you know I kind of have to subscribe to oh yeah I mean that's almost like child abuse not to have Disney plus it's like a it's like a utility in my house basically you know it's like you got to pay the phone bill you got to pay the gas bill you got to pay the

59:05Jordan Hoffman:Disney plus bill because and we do use it certainly more than any other streaming service in my house we were watching a Muppet movie on there last night so yes it's it's very important in this house and they have basically everything Pixar has ever made on there not just the features but they also have all of those shorts which there was a nice period where every single one of the features came with a short like it was preceded by one which was great doesn't seem like it seems like they've kind of gotten away from that i think a lot of the resources that would go to making short films they are now put towards making tv shows for Disney Plus or they'll make series of shorts for Disney Plus.

59:53Matt Singer:Does Pixar do shows?

59:55Jordan Hoffman:They have done a couple of shows, which I've actually, the most recent one I did not watch. They had something that was on there not that long ago called Win or Lose. That was, I think, about a kid's baseball or softball team. And I have not gotten around to watching it yet.

1:00:10Matt Singer:Which of the shorts is, you can only choose one, which is your favorite of the shorts?

1:00:15Jordan Hoffman:Well, that's what I was going to kind of get to was like a couple of my favorites because they're not all fantastic. Some are better than others. I think my personal favorites would be I love Boundin. Do you remember Boundin?

1:00:30Matt Singer:No.

1:00:31Jordan Hoffman:It's a lovely little parable about a sheep that is learning to live with like the annual ritual of being shorn. And it's there's like kind of a spoken word kind of poem that goes along with it. Oh, that does sound familiar. So every year long about May, they'd float him up and they'd haul him away. And they'd shave him and dump him all naked and bare. he learned to live with it he didn't care that one is very good and i am also a fan of one man band from 2005 that's the one that's like about a rivalry of these two buskers they're competing for like a young girl's tip excuse me like a tip like a coin a tip she throws a tip in a hat kind of thing.

1:01:25Matt Singer:I didn't see that one. That one's good? Here's the best one. You're missing it. The one with the birds on the wire. That's the best one. That's a good one too. It's very funny. The other one that I really like is Presto. Do you remember Presto? Is that the guys writing notes to somebody? No.

1:01:40Jordan Hoffman:That's the one where there's, it's very kind of Looney Tunes-ish. And it has, it's kind of like a magician locked in a Roadrunner versus Wile E. Coyote style battle with the rabbit he's supposed to pull out of his hat. But the rabbit refuses to go in the hat. So that one is very, very fun.

1:01:58Matt Singer:There's one that incorporates the old Mickey Mouse cartoons. Or is that not a, maybe that's not a Pixar.

1:02:06Jordan Hoffman:That may not be Pixar. I'm trying to think. I don't think that's a Pixar one unless I missed it.

1:02:11Matt Singer:The best one is the birds. They're very cute. And then there's one where the guy's writing notes and letters and they fly through his, it was like in France or something, and they fly through his windows. I remember that image. Sounds great. No, don't you remember this one where he's writing notes?

1:02:28Jordan Hoffman:No, maybe I missed that one.

1:02:29Matt Singer:It's like in black and white, maybe shades of blue, maybe some teal in there. He's doing something with notes. Maybe I missed that one. It's possible I missed it. But the best one is the birds, and the fact that you didn't list that one proves that you don't know what you're talking about. The birds one is greatly superior to all the others. Now, there's one that everybody hates. I never saw it. The volcano one. You never saw lava? I'm going to watch it immediately.

1:02:51Jordan Hoffman:I was going to say, you need to watch it, and next week I want you to report back on the show.

1:02:55Matt Singer:Why do so many people hate Lava so much?

1:02:58Jordan Hoffman:It's got a ridiculous song. They all have ridiculous songs. It's about a volcano that's in love. How is that any different than any of the other nonsense in cartoons? Instead of saying, I love you, it says, I lava you. We thank the Earth, steal the sky, we thank too.

1:03:19Matt Singer:I love you It's for children. It's cute. I love it. I think Lava's great. I haven't seen it, but I'm going to love it. Okay. Well, we're going to find out next week.

1:03:30Jordan Hoffman:Tune in next week on SVU for Jordan's 75-minute review of Pixar's short Lava. People were outraged. People were, like, fuming. Yes. People get very upset about that short film. I don't know that I would get that upset, but it's not great. But you're going to watch it. You're going to tell us next week. I will. We're going to clear the rest of the schedule. It's going to be an all-lava episode of SVU. But in the meantime, if you want to watch some Pixar shorts yourself, you can find them on Disney+. I love you.

1:04:12Jordan Hoffman:All right, here we go. Our first personalized recommendation. Again, you can send us emails, feedback at filmspottingsvu.com. And what we like to do here is we love to help people. We're givers. We're helpful. We're service journalism. We want to help you get the most out of your streaming bucks. Send us a note. You can also do this on Facebook, facebook.com slash filmspottingsvu. and we actually, this is where this first request comes from was someone sent us this on our Facebook page. Actually, Eddie, Eddie on our Facebook page sent us this request and wrote, any deep cuts in noir, comedy, or crime, I have access to pretty much all of the streamers, so feel free to cast a wide net.

1:05:03Jordan Hoffman:So you have a wide net to cast, Jordan. You can go anywhere and any streaming service, a deep cut in noir, comedy, or crime. Do you have a recommendation for Eddie?

1:05:13Matt Singer:Is it noir, comedy, crime?

1:05:21Jordan Hoffman:There's two commas. Noir, comedy, or crime. That's like every movie. Well, is there one that would fit the bill? Any movie that's a noir, a comedy, or crime, that's a deep cut. Oh, deep cut.

1:05:37Matt Singer:You need a deep cut. Do you need me to give mine while you're thinking here? Yeah, you give yours. I'm going to try to think of a deep cut comedy or a noir or a crime.

1:05:46Jordan Hoffman:I have a deep cut noir film. Hopefully it qualifies as a deep cut. It's a deep cut to me. I recently watched this on the Criterion channel and I had never heard of it before. I watched it. So hopefully that counts as a deep cut. I picked it because one, it was only 78 minutes long. And as we previously discussed on the show, we only watch short movies on streaming.

1:06:07Matt Singer:Big fans of that.

1:06:09Jordan Hoffman:The real reason I picked it was because Criterion Channel had it in one of their collections. Big fan of kind of browsing the collections on the Criterion Channel. This one was called Three Noirs by Jacques Tenneur. Oh, he makes good movies. He makes very good movies. He's the director, in fact, of probably my favorite film noir ever. Do you know what I'm going to say here, Jordan? Jacques Tenneur, he made out of the past, maybe? That's right. out of the past with Robert Mitchum. And I've watched a couple of his other films, including one or two other noirs that he has made here or there over the last few years.

1:06:45Jordan Hoffman:So when I saw this collection on there and there was one movie I hadn't seen, I wanted to check it out. It's called Nightfall. Never heard of it. Exactly. From 1956, directed by Jacques Tourneur, written by Sterling Siliphant, who also, he was the writer of In the Heat of the Night. he created the naked city he created Perry Mason so you got a good

1:07:09Matt Singer:you're talking about his good credits what about the junk he did like the swarm we're going to accentuate the positive and eliminate the negative here

1:07:18Jordan Hoffman:okay the movie stars Aldo Ray he's playing this guy clearly harboring some sort of dark secret as he makes the sway through a very noir-ish city very dark and shadowy guys are looking for him They're following him. So immediately you've got the right paranoid mood of noir. And the cinematography in this movie is by this guy named Burnett Guffey. If people do know this movie, they know it because it has kind of famous, famous in quotes, famous among noir aficionados for having really kind of luscious cinematography. Very shadowy, very high contrast, very dark. But that said, one of the kind of things that's interesting about this noir, without spoiling why, is that even though it starts very kind of prototypically in a shadowy city, it ends on this blindingly bright snowy mountain range in the middle of the day.

1:08:16Jordan Hoffman:So you go from this very dark photography to kind of this blindingly bright photography, which is kind of interesting. Supposedly, Quentin Tarantino is a fan of this one. Supposedly, this is a movie that he showed to Bruce Willis as they were prepping Pulp Fiction. And they used the Aldo Rey character to kind of help find Bruce Willis's characterization in the film. And I think when you watch it, you do kind of see it. You can kind of see a connection. This is one of those movies where you feel like every guy should be called a palooka and every woman should be called a dame. I would not rank Nightfall with Out of the Past.

1:08:59Jordan Hoffman:That is a far superior film noir. But I found it to be very effective and atmospheric. Has a great title. Maybe the greatest noir title ever, Nightfall. Can't come up with a better noir title than that. Pretty good. Yeah. And if you want a deep cut noir film, I think it qualifies. If Jordan hasn't heard of it, if I haven't heard of it, that's a pretty deep cut. So there you go. I feel embarrassed, yeah. That's my recommendation. nightfall on the Criterion channel. This is Saigon, the story of my family and of the country that shaped us. The United States will not stand by and allow any power, however great, take over another country.

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1:13:29Matt Singer:Well, I have a deep cut recommendation too. And I was, you know, furiously Googling and checking, and this is available to stream legally. I'm happy to pronounce. It is a movie. I'm going to say the name and you're going to go, what? I'm going to recommend the movie Roadhouse. What? There you go. Do that again. Take two. I'm going to recommend the movie Roadhouse. What?

1:14:02Matt Singer:this is not the um patrick swayze film or the remake didn't there was this a jake gyllenhaal movie also right which i never saw um this has nothing to do with that movie there is a movie called roadhouse from 1948 and it is really good and it really occupies a great part of my brain because I just had so much fun seeing it for the first time. Not that long ago at the Noir Film Festival, which is an annual event. I think it travels, actually. And that guy, Eddie Mueller. Eddie Mueller. Eddie Mueller, is that his name? Affiliated with TCM. TCM, yes. He was on TCM. My wife and I were in... This is like...

1:14:50Matt Singer:Shit like this never happens, but it happened to us. We were in D.C. and we were driving back from D.C. through Silver Spring, Maryland. And I said, and we had time. And you said, you could be my Silver Spring. And I said. Blue, green colors flashing. I said. Time casts a spell on you, but you will not. I'm sorry. I said, we're in Silver Spring, Maryland. There's a really famous movie theater here that I've never been to, the AFI Silver. Oh, sure. And it's great. I've never gone. Let's go and see what they're showing.

1:15:22Jordan Hoffman:And she said, I'm going to go climb a mountain, a far more suitable activity.

1:15:27Matt Singer:We went to the IFC Silver and we didn't even know it was film noir fest weekend. And there are people dressed up. Everybody's guys wearing suits in the bathroom. There's dames looking like malls, you know, cigarettes left and right. And Eddie Mueller was there giving a spiel. And we saw the 1948 Roadhouse. And it's great. It stars Ida Lupino, who also was a director. Sure, of course. And Cornel Wilde, who also later was a director, but neither directed Roadhouse. Cornel Wilde made The Naked Prey. I love that movie. We'll talk about that someday. It was directed by a guy named Jean Negulesco. He was a Romanian-American director.

1:16:10Matt Singer:And there's original Harold Arlen songs in this, and Richard Widmark is in it. Oh, I love Richard Widmark. Now you're talking my language. Basically, what I remember is it's all set at a roadhouse, obviously. Hard to believe. And Richard Woodmark is the owner of the roadhouse, and his name is Jefferson T. Robbins, and they call him Jephty. And it's Jephty's Roadhouse. And since we saw this years ago, whenever we're at a place, my wife and I, if we're at a place that looks a little bit old, like 40s, 50s, we go, hey, we're at Jephty's Roadhouse. Look at that. Now, Jephte's Roadhouse is a combination of several.

1:16:50Matt Singer:It's a bar. I think it's a hotel. And it's a bowling alley. And it looks like it's from the Flintstones. Even though this was made in 48, it has that 50s style architecture. I think there actually is a room with stones on the wall. It looks like it's got that Flintstones vibe. And they're all hanging out at this place. And when they're not drinking, they're bowling. And when they're not bowling, they're hanging out upstairs. And then there's the usual stuff. I don't even remember the plot. There's shooting, there's chasing, there's anger. But all I know is that the location, it just lives with me.

1:17:27Matt Singer:And it has made a strong impression. And I strongly recommend watching the 1948 Roadhouse. I just checked. It's not streaming on any of the services. You can't even pay$3.99 on Apple or Amazon. But I just checked. There are two quality streams, quality uploads on YouTube. and it probably means that the rights fell through the black hole somewhere. And I endorse watching things on YouTube. I don't endorse torrenting anything, but if it's on YouTube, to me, that's kosher. So check out Jeff D's Roadhouse and you're going to love it.

1:18:04Jordan Hoffman:All right. I think that's a pretty deep cut, too, because I did not know that there was a 1948 Roadhouse either. So there you go. Two deep cut noirs to check out. you're welcome Eddie on Facebook what'd you say your name was Pete it's a tricky name Pete what Morgan well Mr. Morgan I'd be very happy if you just get Jeffy for me oh well Jeffy's a little busy right now I usually uh handle the details is that so well I'm Lil Stevens new entertainer from Chicago right now I'd like to sleep hey Matt Singer what's this week's game well what an incredible segue jordan thank you for asking it is time for the weekly game segment it went so well on our first episode i am once again going to test your knowledge of the star of our featured review by asking questions based on information from her page on letterboxd this is letterboxding the Char Broiled Edition.

1:19:08Jordan Hoffman:Oh, very nice. This is going to be an all Charlize edition

1:19:13Matt Singer:of Letterboxd Sting. I think this is going to be the one Sam's going to get on the board because I am 2-0 on these games. You are winning 2-0. And I feel like when I, you know, as I mentioned, I thought she was in Gunpowder Milkshake earlier. As I was looking at Charlize's Resume, there are quite a few films of hers that I have not seen. I'm not anti-Charlise. I like her. It's just that they slipped through the cracks. So I don't know. I think there's an opportunity here. You've just perused through her filmography. Well, by the way, we've got to play by the rules here. We should not be looking at Wikipedia while we're playing.

1:19:49Matt Singer:I would hope you're not. I'm not. God forbid.

1:19:52Jordan Hoffman:I'm not doing it. All right. I thought we might have been playing the keychain game or whatever it was called with Balthazar K, Balthazar Kormakar's filmography. Okay. Beast. Now that you've sort of set it up where you're trying to kind of explain away your inevitable defeat here, trying to prime the pump.

1:20:12Matt Singer:Yeah, yeah.

1:20:13Jordan Hoffman:Are you ready to begin, gentlemen? Remind us how it works, the game? These are just going to be questions based on information that I gleaned looking at Charlize Theron's Letterboxd page. Letterboxd, the wonderful movie app and website where you can log films, you can track films, you can see what other people are watching. It's a wonderful website. We're all on there. And I use it as a resource. It's an invaluable resource in my life. And so I've decided to exploit it for games. And that brings us to right now. And we just go, eh, if we want to buzz in. Yes, just buzz in, verbally buzz in. It's worked fine so far.

1:20:54Jordan Hoffman:and give your answer. This time I have prepared seven questions. There are seven questions.

1:21:02Matt Singer:One more chance to lose. That's right. No, I'm running for Sam. Sam's going to make it happen.

1:21:07Jordan Hoffman:And they are going to start relatively easy and get a little harder as we go. At least that's what I attempted to do. Okay. So here we go with question number one. Charlize's biography on Letterboxd claims she came to international prominence in the 1990s by playing the leading lady in three Hollywood films,

1:21:31Matt Singer:Mighty Joe Young, The Cider House Rules,

1:21:35Jordan Hoffman:and this bonkers 1997 thriller, also starring the subject of our first edition of Letterboxd. It's Devil's Advocate. It is indeed the Devil's Advocate. Sam, you're on the board. One to nothing.

1:21:52Matt Singer:Jordan, have you seen The Devil's Advocate? More than once, weirdly enough. And I did know the answer to that, but I didn't get in fast enough. But it has a quality, but it's not great.

1:22:02Jordan Hoffman:It has a quality.

1:22:05Matt Singer:Who's the other woman in that? Who's the non-Charlise woman in that? I don't know.

1:22:08Jordan Hoffman:I only remember Charlise was in it for some strange reason that I'd rather not say out loud on a podcast.

1:22:14Matt Singer:The other woman came out around the seventh same time also. I think it did. The other woman was Connie Nielsen? Is that who it is? That sounds right. Jeffrey Jones is in that. Oh, cursed film. I mean, everybody is in that. Oh, Pacino. Well, given the subject, I mean.

1:22:30Jordan Hoffman:Pacino's monologue in the film. Yeah. Truly a thing of beauty. On a scale of one to ten, ten being the most depraved act of sexual theater known to man, And one, being your average Friday night run through at the Lomax's household, I'd say, not to be immodest, Marianne and I got it on at about five on. Here we go. Question number two. Is everyone ready? Do my best. Okay. Question number two. When you filter Charlize Theron's filmography by average user rating, her worst reviewed film ever, ever, is this 2025 Netflix release, a sequel to an earlier Netflix. The Old Guard 2? That is correct. Jordan is correct.

1:23:22Jordan Hoffman:The Old Guard 2, a sequel to an earlier Netflix movie also starring Charlize Theron. The even older Guard? Yeah. The Old Guard's average, its Letterboxd score, the average of all its user scores is 3.1, and the Old Guard 2 is 2.1. I thought you were setting us up for Aeon Flux. I was waiting for it, but no. No, don't get ahead. Maybe it's coming. Don't get ahead of us. All right. So now it is tied up one to one, one to one. And I have to say, as much as I did recommend the Old Guard 1 earlier on the show, I don't think I've been able to get all the way through the Old Guard 2. It is pretty bad.

1:24:02Jordan Hoffman:Different director, different, just does not have the same ring-a-ting flavor, I'm afraid. Okay, question number three. We're all tied up at one. Here we go. Charlize Theron has made, according to Letterboxd, 60 feature films. and according to Letterboxd, the one with the shortest runtime, the shortest runtime among her feature films, is this 87-minute animated feature also featuring the voices of Oscar Isaac, Chloe Grace Moretz, and Snoop Dogg. Name that film. Oh, wait. No, no, no, no, no. Name that film. And since neither of you know it, I'm going to see if I can give some more clues. Hold on.

1:24:53Jordan Hoffman:I'm opening up the letterbox page. Both seem lost in thought. I thought this one wasn't as hard. We may have a problem here.

1:25:02Matt Singer:I mean, there's a lot of animated movies with big actors. They come and go. The Secret Life of Pets 4. Do we get a year on this, Matt?

1:25:09Jordan Hoffman:2019. Okay. 2019 film. It is an animated version of a long-running series. it is a has been made into live action features and this was an animated film which also got a sequel really it's like i have eaten tie-in food based on this motion picture i don't know like a

1:25:33Matt Singer:scooby-doo or something i guess i have to buzz in and scooby-doo or something incorrect incorrect

1:25:39Jordan Hoffman:we may not be able to get this one director do we have a director do we have a conrad vernon and Greg Tiernan. Other voices in the cast include Finn Wolfhard, Nick Kroll, Bette Midler, Bette Midler? Allison Janney, Martin Short, Catherine O 'Hara, rest in peace, Titus Burgess, Jennifer Lewis. This isn't like a sing. No. It is not a sing. Okay.

1:26:08Matt Singer:I saw sing at the premiere and I was so just down, just depressed by how awful it was. I had to get out and just kind of walk around the lobby for a while. And then I had to go back in. I was reviewing it, so I had to stay. But it was just so awful. It was a low point in my time with my children. And that was the first one. They made a sequel. What is this cursed film? We can't take it anymore.

1:26:30Jordan Hoffman:It is The Addams Family, the animated version of The Addams Family.

1:26:35Matt Singer:There is no animated version of The Addams Family. You couldn't even give us the theme song or something about it?

1:26:38Jordan Hoffman:I was about to, but Jordan said, just tell us. So I decided why prolong the agony? Wait, is this only Was that number three or was that number four? This was number three. Good Lord. They're going to get harder. Was this in theaters? Charlize was, yes, Charlize was Morticia. Of course she was. This is not true.

1:26:53Matt Singer:This never happened.

1:26:54Jordan Hoffman:And it was only 87 minutes. I think that's this segment of the show is going to be longer than 87 minutes at this rate. Okay. Question four, still tied at one to one. According to Letterboxd, Charlize Theron has executive produced four films in her career. The aforementioned and clearly unseen by these two gentlemen, Adam's family. A documentary called Last Call When a Serial Killer Stalked Queer New York. And two Netflix films, a 2019 comedy and its 2023 sequel starring Adam Sandler and Jennifer Aniston, which Charlize Theron does not appear in. Name the film series. Oh, I know. Murder mystery.

1:27:41Jordan Hoffman:That is correct. For some reason, maybe she was supposed to be in it at some point. I don't know. That must be it. That must be it. Charlize Theron is the executive producer of Murder Mystery. Was she murdered? Murder Mystery 2. Was she possibly the murdered? I don't think she's in either one.

1:27:59Matt Singer:I have seen both of those films and they are not terrible.

1:28:03Jordan Hoffman:I remember the first one being kind of okay.

1:28:06Matt Singer:It's kind of, the second one they go to Paris, they're on the Eiffel Tower running around. and it's not that bad.

1:28:12Jordan Hoffman:The first one we would have reviewed on SVU and been like, you know what? This is the best thing we've seen on this show in months.

1:28:18Matt Singer:I mean, it's no Hubie Halloween, but it's - No, it's certainly not.

1:28:21Jordan Hoffman:Hubie Halloween is the filet of the Adam Sandler comedy oeuvre. For sure. It's pretty good. For sure. Okay. It's pretty good, yeah. Our score now, two to one in favor of Jordan. With three questions left, it is still anybody's game. Anybody's game. Question five. When you sort Charlize's filmography alphabetically, the last movie on the list is a 2011 film whose title starts with a Y. A Y. Whoa. Okay. Yes, Jordan. This is young adult. That is correct, Jordan. I didn't even have to give the plot synopsis, which I was scared to do. Jason Reitman's young adult. Good film.

1:29:08Matt Singer:Come on, Sam. I'm sorry. Can I use her letterbox? This is what I'm saying. So during the break, I said, it's time for me to move into the host role. It's time to get two pros playing the game.

1:29:21Jordan Hoffman:No, because I like being the host because then I never I never have to act like I know these things. It seems like I know these things just by reading them off a paper. OK, well, it is still you can still actually there is a way for you to still win, Sam. You need to get this one, though. This is going to be important. I need this one. This will make a break. Okay. This is really important. Let's do it. Somebody disconnect Jordan's microphone accidentally for a few minutes. There we go. Okay. Here we go. Number six. Jordan, are you ready? You're moving around. Well, I'm excited. Okay. He's excited.

1:29:53Jordan Hoffman:He's on the verge of win three. This win streak potentially is the most exciting thing that's happened to this man in months. Okay. Number six. Charlize Theron has played an Imperator. She has played Immortal Warriors in the Old Guard. She's played an interdimensional witch. She played Morticia, which you guys didn't know. She's played anime icons. But as far as I could tell, based on her letterboxd page, she has only ever played one queen. And she played this queen twice. Twice. In a forgotten blockbuster from 2012, and its even more forgotten sequel from 2016. If you can name both movies, I will give you a point for each.

1:30:39What are these movies? Oh, no.

1:30:43Jordan Hoffman:Blockbuster from 2012. It's sequel from 2016. I'm going to guess. I think it's The Huntress. The Huntress. Huntress or something. It's the Snow White movie. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was going to say. Snow White and the Huntress. The Hunter. The Hunter. The Demon Hunter. Was he a Demon Hunter? Did he hunt Demon? He was a Huntsman. Huntsman. Huntsman. Yes. Now. I'll give you a point for that, even though I probably shouldn't for the sake of keeping it interesting. But now, can you name the sequel to Snow White and the Huntsman?

1:31:19Matt Singer:And yeah, no, nobody can do this.

1:31:22Jordan Hoffman:I could do it. You might have, you reviewed Sing.

1:31:26Matt Singer:I reviewed this movie. I reviewed it too. Now, wasn't the second Snow White, like Thor wasn't even in it at this point, right? He was in the first one. You have it backwards.

1:31:34Jordan Hoffman:Thor was the only one in it.

1:31:36Matt Singer:Oh, there's a clue. Kristen Stewart's not in it.

1:31:38Jordan Hoffman:Kristen Stewart who played Snow White in Snow White and the Huntsman. They got rid of the titular Snow White.

1:31:45Matt Singer:Right. So it just became like the Huntsman and the miracle of the -

1:31:48Jordan Hoffman:The Huntsman. The Huntsman. The Huntsman what? If you can hear very close. The Huntsman Colin. The Huntsman's shadow.

1:31:55Matt Singer:The Huntsman's search for the golden parachute. No one knows that one.

1:32:03Jordan Hoffman:Are we ready to give up on the sequel? The Huntsman versus or the Huntsman comes to collect? The Huntsman colon. All right. Dragon Slayer. No, no. The Huntsman Winter's War. Yes, there it is true. The Huntsman Winter's War. All right. You know what's so funny?

1:32:27Matt Singer:I have to speak about Kristen Stewart. Please. That movie, that Snow White movie is so goddamn boring. and it inspired her to become a good actress because it was after the Snow White, which was a rough production. I think she was stepping out on her boyfriend or something. There was a lot of tabloid rumors. She was still being the director and it really changed. Allegedly. But it was all for the best because she was kind of on an A-list trajectory. She was making studio movies and that were doing well at the box office. And she said, enough of this, I'm done. And her next project was probably Clouds of Sils Maria.

1:33:03Matt Singer:and suddenly it's like, guess what? Kristen Stewart actually can act. Who would have thunk it? Give her a good project. And now she's talented. She and Pattinson, they both have become very interesting actors. They make great unusual, weird choices. Team Jacob's doing nothing, that guy. He's eating raw meat out of cellophane bags. That's what he did. You know what I'm talking about, right? He has become the huntsman now. When he was Team Jacob, when he was just the big hulking mass of muscle, I read an interview in, I don't know, Rolling Stone or Vanity Fair or something. It was like, what do you, and he just has, in every pocket, he had bags of ground beef.

1:33:42Matt Singer:And he was constantly eating beef. And that's how he became Team Jacob. Is that the excuse you use, too, when I see you walking around with bags of meat? It's tied. The game's tied, Matt Singer. Sam Van Beethoven and I are tied. It is not tied.

1:33:57Jordan Hoffman:It's three to two. Three to two are my favorite. It can be tied. Okay. Oh, it can be tied. It can be tied if Sam gets this last question. Make them easier. Make them easier, Matt, not harder. This one, this one. Okay, this one's pretty tough. Okay. Oh, boy. Here we go. Last question.

1:34:14Matt Singer:Mm-hmm.

1:34:15Jordan Hoffman:You can not only filter an actor's filmography by genre, you can filter on Letterboxd by multiple genres, meaning you can click a genre, like, let's say, science fiction, and then click another genre, let's say, drama, and it will filter down just the movies that fall into both categories. And in fact, according to Letterboxd, Charlize has only appeared in one sci-fi drama in her career. This 1999 film co-starring Johnny Depp, the only feature film directed by movie and TV producer Rand Ravitch. Rand Ravitch. this is a tough one this is a movie that does not exist this is a movie that barely exists I will admit sci-fi drama it absolutely is wait no no no wait no wait

1:35:15Matt Singer:no because that's got Al Pacino not Johnny Depp

1:35:18Jordan Hoffman:just start reading the plot description yeah that might give it away but let's see okay hold on that's fine alright hold on we're loading up the page The HHS box will emerge from the back of my mind, just from the mist. This may give it, all right, well, be ready because this may give it away, but I'm going to read it. All right. When astronaut Spencer Armacov. The astronaut's wife. That, Jordan, is the correct answer. That's why I didn't want to read the synopsis. I was pretty sure we'd give it away. Wait, but wasn't she Simone, Simone?

1:35:54Matt Singer:Simone? Yeah. No, I don't think she was. I don't think she was in that. Who's the blonde in that? Evan Rachel Wood? Is that Simone? That's what it says. Catherine Keener? Rachel Roberts as Simone. Oh, there you go. Who the hell is Rachel Roberts? Andrew Nichol?

1:36:10Jordan Hoffman:She's Simone. Jason Schwartzman's in it. I don't think I have ever seen Simone. No, neither did I. My apologies to Simone.

1:36:18Matt Singer:No, and I like Andrew Nichol, too, and I never saw it. I heard it was bad. And back then, I didn't get to see movies for free. I had to pay. So, you know, it didn't happen.

1:36:25Jordan Hoffman:Well, apologies to Simone, but congratulations to Jordan Hoffman. He has once again, he's 3-0. The hot streak continues.

1:36:36Matt Singer:I wanted Sam to win, but I also respect him too much to let him win.

1:36:42Jordan Hoffman:I wanted him to win on his own merit. You made it a fair fight. I don't think, I know Sam wants to take over the hosting of the games and pit us against each other. I don't think I can relinquish until Jordan loses. I think we have to ride the streak. Oh, man. We got to ride the streak until he - This will keep people engaged. They'll come back next week just to see it. All right. I mean, this was an exciting one because - It was. It was tooth and nail. The astronaut's wife. I've already forgotten the name of the Huntsman's sequel. Winter's War. Winter's War. Winter's War. The Huntsman Winter's War.

1:37:15Murder Mystery colon Winter's War. I get it. All right. That's how I remember it.

1:37:20Matt Singer:You know, Matt Singer, next week a lot of cool stuff is coming to streaming on Amazon Prime, the only streaming service that means you get free delivery on paper towels. The House of the Spirits, which is a very famous novel by Isabella Allende. I don't know. Allende Allende is a famous book from the early 80s. And it's an eight episode Spanish language adaptation. and of course it was made into a film in the early 90s with Meryl Streep and Winona Ryder but this is a Spanish language version with the actors that actually speak the language of Spanish so it's going to be great. Also, this is kind of exciting, we're at that time of the year where a lot of big movies from the Oscar season are coming to streaming not for a$3.99 rental but they're on the services themselves.

1:38:16Matt Singer:Marty Supreme, which was my favorite movie of 2025, is going to be on HBO Max. If you didn't see it, you can watch it there. Also coming to HBO Max, a movie from earlier this year that was a big hit at the box office, Wuthering Heights, Emerald Fennell's Wuthering Heights with Margot Robbie and Jacob Lordy. I liked it. Others. I enjoyed it. I didn't see it. Apple TV has got a new horror comedy series called Widow's Bay. And it's from Katie Dippold, who, you know, she's Parks and Rec alumni. She co-wrote The Heat with Sandra Bullock and Melissa McCarthy, which I love. I love that movie, The Heat.

1:38:59Matt Singer:That is I that's one of my I think that's my favorite movie from Paul Feig. I think that's my favorite Paul Feig movie. More than Bridesmaids? Yeah, I think it is. I think that he, just for whatever reason, I just really like it. I love Bridesmaids, too. Don't get me wrong. Bridesmaids, I think, is an absolute masterpiece. They're both. Yeah, Bridesmaid is great.

1:39:17Jordan Hoffman:Now, if only someone would write a book that chronicled that era of Hollywood. Wait a minute. I did it. And it's called Funny Business. And it's coming out in October. You could preorder a copy now. There's a whole chapter about Bridesmaids.

1:39:34Matt Singer:Wow. And I love, what's her name in Bridesmaids? Kimmy Schmidt. What is her name in real life? Kimmy Schmidt, the redhead? Why isn't she in more movies? What's she doing right now? Where's Ellie Kemper's career right now? What does she do?

1:39:47Jordan Hoffman:She's taking over for you on SVU if you can't get through this list of titles.

1:39:51Matt Singer:Get her as a guest. I'll watch Widow's Bay from that. It's set in a tiny New England island town. It stars Matthew Reese, Stephen Root. I love Stephen Root and Dale Dickey. The three episode premiere starts on the 29th and then weekly episodes through June 17th. This is going to be the new Schitt's Creek, Widow's Bay. That's your prediction? Yeah. Similarly, Oscar film, Oscar-time movie from last year, Park Chan-wook's No Other Choice is going to be on a Hulu. Something going on on the Criterion channel, a five-part series called Con Body vs. Everybody. And this is a five-part docuseries from Deborah Granik, who's made the great movies Winter's Bone and Leaves No Trace.

1:40:39Matt Singer:I loved Leaves No Trace. That movie's really good. Thomas and Mackenzie and Ben... What's his name? Foster. Really, yeah, Ben Foster. But this is a documentary. It's about a former convict who creates Con Body Gym, a gym inspired by workouts he developed while he was in prison, and it's staffed by formerly incarcerated trainers. And you would think, yes, people go to prison, better than you know to turn their lives around and when they come out they've they've they've paid their debt to society we want to rehabilitate them but you'll find that there is prejudice against the formerly incarcerated and that is what this five-part series investigates i haven't seen it yet i intend to because i am a deborah granick yeah fan sounds good there's more netflix the big Red coming up on Big Red there is a seven part series um called Man on Fire and you might be saying Man on Fire wasn't that a Denzel movie and the answer is yes it is adapted from the same material as the 2004 Tony Scott directed Denzel Washington film it stars Yaha Abdul-Mateen 2 who I believe played uh was in Aquaman remember him as Black Manta in Aquaman he was really good and he's in this and um who knows uh it's directed by steven capel jr who directed creed 2 and transformers rise of the beast there's also an animated film called swapped and it's about a tiny woodland creature and majestic bird swap bodies sure featuring the voice of michael b jordan juno temple and tracy morgan none of those although the demographic things does sound really good i don't think we're going to cover it because it's five first of all it sounds a little esoteric and it's five episodes if the fans are like right to us and say no no that does sound intriguing i want to know more about it so we're kind of still new to this uh series there's only a third episode today uh there were other streaming hits from this year that we didn't cover yeah so the brain trust which is Matt Singer, Sam Van Beethoven, and myself, we decided to maybe go back a few months and cover a popular streaming film.

1:42:54Matt Singer:One of the biggest streaming hits of 2026. One of the biggest hits, according to Letterboxd. Yes, according to Letterboxd, the aforementioned Letterboxd. It's the number four movie of the year thus far. I mean, it's only late April. Based on popularity.

1:43:07Jordan Hoffman:I don't think that means that people who saw it liked it. It means popularity on Letterboxd is kind of a nebulous gauge. What does that mean? I think it means how much people engage with the movie in terms of logging it, voting on it, reviewing it. It doesn't necessarily mean it's the most, like, highest rated film of the year. But a lot of people saw it.

1:43:27Matt Singer:Yes. It's still a good metric. We haven't said the film yet. No, I'm building up to that. Oh, I'm sorry. But it's still like, I mean, in the old days, this would have been box office receipts. Correct. People saw it. Yes. They may not have loved it, but they still saw it. The movie is People We Meet on Vacation, which is a movie made for young people. Right. Like us. Yeah. So it's got Tom Blythe. Blythe. Blythe. How does he pronounce his name?

1:43:53Jordan Hoffman:Blythe.

1:43:54Matt Singer:Tom Blythe, who was in the most recent Hunger Games. We're the young people.

1:43:57Jordan Hoffman:We know how their names are pronounced. These are our people. And Alan Ruck is in it, too.

1:44:00Matt Singer:Alan Ruck, who, of course, was in Star Trek Generations. And Emily Bader. I don't know who Emily Bader is. So we're going to talk about that next week. and I think it's a romantic film. I don't know.

1:44:11Jordan Hoffman:We're going to find out because that's what we're going to review. We're going to cover one of the big streaming movies of 2026 so far. I hope it's good. I hope so too. It would be great if we could watch a good movie on this show. Would it kill these people to make a good movie that we could review?

1:44:26Matt Singer:Where do you think they go on vacation? It's a Netflix film. I don't want to speculate. They're opening a big facility in Monmouth County, New Jersey. Do you think they go to Shrewsbury, New Jersey? They go to the freehold mall. They go to Jenkinson's on the shore in New Jersey. Yeah, why not? They're going somewhere on vacation, so I don't know.

1:44:45Jordan Hoffman:Why not? So you can look for that review next week and maybe nowhere else. I don't know if anyone else is covering that movie at this point, but we are on SVU.

1:44:54Matt Singer:Thank you so much to all the listeners. Now you can send feedback to us at feedback at filmspottingsvu.com. Matt, you're on Letterboxd and Instagram and all the other socials as Super Pulse. I can be found on Blue Sky, Jay Hoffman and some of the other social medias as well FilmSpotting SVU is produced for once, let's say the guy's real name, Sam Van Halgren Sam Van Halgren is our fabulous producer, engineer third companion and also plays the games and will beat me next week I'm Jordan Hoffman and I'm Matt Singer, thanks for listening

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