Introducing: Laugh With Me Podcast | Tiger King Joe Exotic (Network Drop)

16:43Jeremy Odem:Wow. So what's that process like? Is that something like paperwork you file and then you just, you don't get updates, you just kind of hope and wait?

16:51Joe Exotic:Well, see, I had a pardon application filed in his first term. And see, every time a president leaves office, they deny him all. Okay, so then I had to file one for Biden. And then on January the 20th of this year, that one got denied. So I had to file it again. So now I've got another one in the U.S. pardon attorney's office. And it's just a matter of who he picks and chooses.

17:24Jeremy Odem:Wow. So then do you have like some champions in Washington, like anybody who's a fan of yours?

17:31Joe Exotic:Well, you know, I have Congresswoman Lauren Boebert that's out there stomping the pavement for me, and I've got Congressman Eric Burr.

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21:37Jeremy Odem:Oh, absolutely. But you've got his favorites. I mean, you've got the folks that's got his ear.

21:41Joe Exotic:Yeah, and the people that have been telling me that it's coming are direct friends of Donald Jr. So, you know, who knows?

21:54Jeremy Odem:Yeah. I don't know if you remember the movie Beetlejuice, but I know Lauren Boebert's a big fan of Beetlejuice. Oh, yeah? Yeah. If you ever get an opportunity to talk to her, ask her about Beetlejuice. Okay. Do you think it's possible that Trump knows about this and that he's just waiting to use this as a distraction and it's going to help you, but it's going to be used to distract from something else?

22:21Joe Exotic:Well, I know for a fact he knows about this because he was confronted by Steve Nelson from the New York Post during a live White House briefing. So Trump has said my name, and then TMZ called out Alice Johnson the other day on world television about whether or not she's going to recommend my pardon. So they know me. They know who I am. That's what everybody says. He'll use it when he needs to use it. But right now, his best opportunity to use it would be now to kind of distract a little bit away from this Epstein stuff.

23:05Jeremy Odem:Yeah, he could use the distraction for sure.

23:07Joe Exotic:Yeah, because when you got Dan Bongino upset with you and Ash Patel upset with you, that's telling the world that you're hiding something.

23:18Jeremy Odem:Hey, let's get you on the record right now that you are not on the Epstein list.

23:24Joe Exotic:I didn't even know who Epstein was until all of this hit the news.

23:31Jeremy Odem:That's funny.

23:32Joe Exotic:Now, whether or not Jeff Lowe was on the Epstein list, that could be possible.

23:39Jeremy Odem:That'd be what put him down for good. Well, it'd be hard for Trump not to know who you were. I mean, in 2020, Tiger King came out on Netflix. 34 million people watched it in its first 10 days of release. Right. You unfortunately were in prison for all of it. Do you even have a grasp of your stamp on pop culture?

24:03Joe Exotic:No. Not at all. Man. The only thing that I've seen out in the world is when I came back from North Carolina doing cancer treatment, they flew me to Oklahoma City and then they... This call is from a federal prison. They drove me in an unmarked police car, you know, down to Fort Worth. And I was sitting in the back seat, you know, and they didn't handcuff me or anything. And I was just sitting in the back seat of this white car. And one out of three cars that passed us slowed down and took pictures. Wow. And it didn't matter if they were 18 or 80. It was crazy how people recognized who I was sitting in the back seat of a car.

24:51What?

24:51Joe Exotic:So it's going to be kind of, if I make it out of here alive, it's going to be kind of crazy because, you know, I've never been prepared for this kind of notoriety.

25:02Jeremy Odem:Well, no, and it's hard to even acclimate yourself back into society anyways, and you're going to come out of it one of the most popular people in America.

25:11Joe Exotic:You know, though, I wish President Trump would understand the fact that before this all happened, my big thing was fixing little kids' faces with Operation Smile. That was my favorite fundraiser. Wow. And feeding the homeless. And I just wish he would understand that if he would be honorable enough to just let me go home, the platform that I do have out there, the amazing things I could do to fix more little kids' faces and take care of more homeless people would be phenomenal.

25:55Jeremy Odem:Well, yeah, you'll have the opportunity to do 10x or 100x times good than what you had before. yeah so now you've been in you're you're ultra popular um in america do you get like offers i mean has there been movie offers i mean i guess there's got to be people wanting to tell your story even further well i i have i have three good movie offers on the table now but nobody

26:23Joe Exotic:wants to do anything unless i'm out okay you know because because tiger king was filmed while i was in prison okay i didn't film for tiger king right they took all of my footage that i was filming for my reality show and used it with without me knowing it i never saw tiger king until about six

26:44Jeremy Odem:months ago holy cow so wow i guess i didn't realize that all that was after you'd already

26:49Joe Exotic:been put in prison i thought yeah no i was i was arrested in september 7th of 2018 and they filmed that through 18, 19, and early 20.

27:00Jeremy Odem:So all those interviews and all the testimonials from your staff and your family and friends, that was all after you were already put in prison?

27:07Joe Exotic:That was all after I was already put in prison, and the producer, Eric Good, of Tiger King paid. We have videos of him now paying them very large sums of cash to talk shit about me and make that show.

27:22Jeremy Odem:Holy cow. So you were...

27:24Joe Exotic:It's pretty sad. I didn't get a dime from Tiger King.

27:26Jeremy Odem:Yeah, I was going to say, you didn't get paid at all then.

27:28Joe Exotic:No, none.

27:29Jeremy Odem:So do you own the name Tiger King then?

27:32Joe Exotic:I do own the trademarks. But it takes money to hire lawyers to sue anybody. You know what I'm saying? Right. That's why everybody on the internet is selling Joe Exotic Tiger King stuff and there ain't a damn thing I can do because I'm broke.

27:47Jeremy Odem:Oh, man. What about the music? I mean, your music came out before prison. Were you able to, I guess, I'm sure more people were streaming your music.

28:00Joe Exotic:I do get some royalties from my music now. But see, what happened while I was in prison is instead of Tiger King, the people on Netflix doing the right thing and working with me to do everything, they'd done everything the cheap way and they got some clown out there named Vince Johnson to claim that the music was his so they paid him and then it took me three years to sue him I just got done last March in Florida suing him because I finally found a lawyer that would do it pro bono and I took him to court and and won a judgment you know so now I've got a court order proving that the music is mine, but you still have to sue Netflix.

28:49Joe Exotic:You have to sue the producers. And hell, BBC even has copyrighted some of my music.

28:56Jeremy Odem:Holy hell.

28:56Joe Exotic:Everybody has taken advantage of Joe being in prison and not being able to fight for myself.

29:04Jeremy Odem:Oh, there's going to be hell to pay once you're out.

29:07Joe Exotic:Oh, you bet. You bet. You bet. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to keep some lawyers fully employed.

29:14Jeremy Odem:So over the past six years or so, have you been writing new music? Like, is that on your radar, too?

29:23Joe Exotic:I, you know, I have. I kind of had a bad mind block there for a while. Yeah. But, you know, I got married, and, you know, he got out of prison, and he got deported to Mexico. So my music writing capabilities have came back. Like, you know, call it separation anxiety, I guess. Yeah. But I have wrote some, and, you know, and I'm not going to lie to anybody. My people, my girls out in the world, I send them the songs. And then I guess there's a very awesome music AI program out there that has put the words and the sound to it. until I get out so I can sing them myself. But yeah, they're apparently all on iTunes.

30:16Jeremy Odem:The AI abilities right now are insane.

30:21Joe Exotic:It's pretty scary. It is very scary. I've seen some on TV that they showed on TV of what people are making Trump do. It's pretty crazy.

30:31Jeremy Odem:Have you performed at all for your fellow inmates or the guards or anything?

30:36Joe Exotic:No.

30:37Jeremy Odem:No? No. Yeah, I don't blame you. So you remarried, and you said he got out, and then was he immediately deported?

30:46Joe Exotic:He got out on May the 17th. He was supposed to have a detention hearing on the 19th, and the U.S. government picked him up on the 17th, and they dumped him in Mexico on the 18th, and he didn't even get a good list hearing.

31:03Jeremy Odem:Holy cow. Man. Well, you're certainly one of the rare people that have ever found love like that in prison, I would have to imagine.

31:15Joe Exotic:You know, it happens. You know, you can't pick when, where, and who, and why when it happens. But he's amazing, and I can't wait to get out. I intend on going to Mexico. and you know just like i've i've had in the press several times uh trump let me out of here so i can go to work and and buy one of your five million dollar gold cards so i can bring him back

31:43Jeremy Odem:to america uh your uh fellow castmate on tiger tiger king doc annal he was just sentenced to

31:52Joe Exotic:a year in prison uh yeah it's pretty pretty crazy isn't it is it would you call that karma

31:57Jeremy Odem:is just kind of a matter of time for him?

32:00Joe Exotic:Well, I would call it, I mean, not as much karma as, you know, I'm ashamed of the government, you know, because he smuggled and trafficked human beings, okay, in order to pay for those expensive animals to make a living and live like he lives. and that just goes to show you that the United States government they want to bitch about all the illegal immigrants in here and the trafficking and everything but they just showed an example of a man that was smuggling human beings to profit for himself only got a year and Joe Exotic is in here for 21

32:46Jeremy Odem:okay so go

32:52Joe Exotic:figure that out

32:54Jeremy Odem:so before long long before years and years ago when you were taking your um zoo on the road for

33:01Joe Exotic:like petting zoos and showcases and whatnot right um did you ever come through nebraska i did many times many times uh we did some shows in north platte uh nebraska um god yeah we we did a lot in Nebraska.

33:20Jeremy Odem:Yeah, I live in Omaha, Nebraska. Yeah? And I was just very curious. I thought that would be a pretty cool show if that ever came through.

33:30Joe Exotic:You know, I did my magic show on the road in front of probably a total of 4 or 5 million people. And I still get letters from people that were at my show 18, 20 years ago that were little kids that are growing and have I'm throwing family down. Hey, Jeremy, this thing is going to hang up any second because it just beeped. Hey, I want to thank you so much for having me. Tell everybody to get on joexoticofficial.com, look at the evidence, do some shopping, help me out because the lawyer bills are stacking up. But tell everybody out there, I send my love. George sends his love. And there we go.

34:12Jeremy Odem:Joe Exotic. That was fun. He seems like he's in good spirits. Honestly, doesn't he sound like he was in good spirits, Johnny? I mean, he sounds like a guy that he obviously has been in long enough. He kind of gets the deal. He's acclimated, but he's fighting. You know, he's fighting. It's crazy to me that he was talking. He has no idea just how popular he is. I mean, it's, you know, I've had family, you know, they're inside. how they come out and it's you know it's different you got to get used to being around people again being able to just kind of move around oh that would be so hard and then he's going to have the whole world wanting to talk to him you know and he's a showman right he's he was a showman for many many years even before any of any of this right he's used to that he's used to talking in front of people and being on stage and being the center of attention but it's been so long and so secluded for so long i did want to ask him about his health i mean he did mention that he was in for a cancer treatment in north carolina um yeah i know that's one of his biggest fears i've read in press clippings that uh one of his biggest fears he's going to die in prison before his sentence ends and he just wants to do good out in the world man joe exotic that was exciting we had Tiger King here on Laugh With Me.

35:43Johnny, good job.

35:45Jeremy Odem:I just want to tell you publicly, you did good, buddy. But yeah, you heard him. You can find his Instagram, Joe underscore exotic. All kinds of stuff on there. And then joexoticofficial.com, it sounds like. That's the website. So let's actually, let me, let's, Johnny, let's pull that up so that we know we got it right.

36:15Jeremy Odem:and joexoticofficial.com

36:20Jeremy Odem:and you can know exactly what's going on with the case. It looks very updated. It looks like we're getting new FBI information on there. And basically anything you would need to know about Joe. Oh, wow. We can shop all kinds of stuff here to help him out. the Joe Exotic underwear that might be what I what I get I want to help my guy out Joe if you listen to the episode thank you so much for coming on the show and you're welcome back anytime before or after you get out this is exciting Johnny

37:07Jeremy Odem:JoeExoticOfficial.com Thanks for listening, everybody.

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