Introducing: The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast | Sitting Down! with Pete Dominick (Network Drop)

32:42And they go, Pete, get back out there. So I walk out and now I'm standing in front of these four legends trying to get this audience's attention. Like, how why would you want to hear from this guy? They've never heard of me. I'm a monkey. I'm just out there. But I'm too smart for that. I'm like I'm not going to act like I can do anything to distract these people from those legends. So I start to say I'm going to talk to these guys. Let's do a little Q &A with these guys while the lights are down or while the tech issue is being fixed. And that's when Don Mattingly, whose poster I had as a 12-year-old, who I went to New York City for the first time to see him and sat on the first baseline, whose rookie card I saved up to buy.

33:28He said, Don Mattingly, my boyhood aisle, yelled to me, hey, Derek. He goes, hey, Jeter doesn't think you're funny. Shit. Oh, no. Mattingly yelled to me that another New York legend didn't think I was funny. So these two guys are talking about me. I go, oh, no, Derek Jeter doesn't think I'm funny. All that matters to me right now is that my boyhood idol just said my other idol doesn't. Y 'all know my name, right? Y 'all know I exist. And then in that moment, I realized what my strategy was going to be. And it was what every comedian does. It doesn't matter who it is. It is time to attack. so i come for jeter's family he was wearing a yellow suit i go i can't believe derek jeter is making fun of me i would never want to say anything that would upset him certainly not the fact that he's dressed like a mustard packet alpha i don't i have the mic i have the mic now that's that's hilarious man it's also like um such a vulnerable thing to be on the microphone I'm talking in front of people uh in the first place and I think you know especially in that situation you kind of get a little bit of a boost if you're a gamer like it's it's like all right I gotta get up for this and like it was so funny watching these you know uh veteran comedians that are at my job be like oh fucking the warm and then they just fucking turning on like a muscle what the fuck you were just back here and I was gonna ask you that is you've been on live tv like ready on all these other different things what is what is it that drives you to continue to go like it's a muscle because I didn't even realize I have a muscle for this because for those of you that don't realize we you know we do balls deep which is our sports show with Justin and one time Justin told me he said you have a switch I said what do you mean he say we could be casually talking and he said the second we go live he say it's just something kind of changes and all of a sudden, I don't even realize I'm doing it.

35:39Like, when is it that things became so automatic that you go, okay, I can adjust to anybody? Well, that's a great question and a very flattering suggestion that that's a talent that I possess. But I think it is. I think it's survival. I mean, I definitely fashioned myself to be the kind of comedian who could entertain any audience anywhere. So a corporate gig at an industry event or all black people in Harlem or Jewish – like a synagogue or – like even – I used to do this gig every summer, young kids at a synagogue. I'm not Jewish. I didn't know anything about growing up Jewish or being in a synagogue.

36:19They had boys on one side, girls on the other side. It was religious. And I just went in there and did an impression of a cat barfing, got my 200 bucks and went home. The point being, I wanted to make money, so I made myself as adaptable. And I love people, all people. So I want to make everybody laugh. I want to entertain everybody. And I also think the reason why you have that quality, why anybody does, is because when lights turn on, when you go live in this case, there are people watching. We should be entertaining. We should do our job. Our job is to entertain. I hate these people that are like, I don't want to promote my show.

36:50I just want to show up. like no people are there because you have a microphone and there's a camera and you should use all of it and you should be interesting and entertaining and smart or whatever or don't waste people's time so i agree the lights go on when you go live be good be be interesting be engaging yeah particularly if you want their money because like oh people are paying to be here or paying for for whatever this thing is at a later date or whatever yeah when we would have every once in we'd have a podcast guest back in the day who was like too cool for school yes it's like dude you're fucking killing me like what are you doing man you're giving me nothing to work with and so not trying to find because me and roger got professionals if you are a drywall we will look at each other and act like you ain't in the room yeah we'll bounce we'll just bounce off each other if it gets that bad i remember once uh as a joke though this was on purpose this is when we were still experimenting with what is a podcast this is 16 years ago and um my brother came on as a joke because we were like me and him were riffing one day in real life and we were like dude you know it fucking sucks rappers who do radio interviews and they just fucking are so vague because they're trying to be cool i fucking hate i was like i love hip-hop i hate a rap interview now it's changed over my lifetime because all these motherfuckers got old and they went to therapy and they're all opened up and shit now you just you know they're like method man's talking about depression and shit but back in the day it used to be like yeah you know i'm saying nah me and so one time we had my brother come on the show and pretend to be this rapper that we just made up the name like it was like mc no name i remember that years ago and the audience got because we did we didn't tell the audience it was a skit they were so they got so mad i was like what the fuck is this shit and i was like he sucks i was like we learned two lessons today one that was much funnier to me and my brother than it was to everyone else two you You got to let the audience in on the joke because that was it was it's still funny to me.

38:50But, man, that did not that did not work. But it's also just like one of the coolest things about working at Sirius XM almost 15 years. But I hosted a live show there. And at first it was on the comedy channels that was on the political channels. Then it was on like this hybrid channel. So I had all types of people coming in, being guests on the show and huge big name stars, actors, musicians, comedians, obviously artists, journalists, politicians, you name it. Anybody who was promoting any book, I got to interview everybody. And so I have a billion stories just about that. But the point that I think is really relevant is when an actor or a rapper or a musician especially come in and they're not interesting, it's like, yeah, because someone wrote your shit for you.

39:35Comedian isn't interesting. That's just sacrosanct. There's no compassion for that guy because he writes his own stuff. He's supposed to be able to do improv and be good in the moment. But I was always so excited when someone came in, whether they were a big name or not, and they they could banter, they could play. They knew how to how to improv. And I just one quick one. And there's so many. My favorite moment probably ever was the actor Jeffrey Tambor, who was in a Larry Sanders show and Arrested Development and so many other things. One of the funniest guys ever in the moment. And when you get him, he's just he's a master.

40:13so he would those guys would come in and they didn't know me i knew them but they would always test me another example would be norm mcdonald or william shatner or bob saget like coming in and boom boom boom boom kevin hart like oh i knew him because he's a comic but like somebody's got so they would test me and once they knew i got the game then we danced right the third time tambor comes in he knows that i know the rule is comedy doesn't matter who gets hurt that's the rule top of the interview he goes pete i uh i'm glad to see that you're still here i a little surprised i go why why why are you saying that jeffrey i i mean right away he said he opened the interview i go things are going great i actually just launched this new channel i spearheaded it it's going great things have not been going better i go why are you saying it like that he goes no no no i'm just surprised i go why are you surprised and he goes because you're not good

41:21off the top of the opening of the interview knowing that he had to be there for another in 30 minutes he said you're not good he was like just this like such a pro move and it was such a it was a test for me and so many other people did that same thing right at the top because they didn't they needed to know if they could have fun they didn't care at that point about what they're so famous this person or that person jeff goldblum's another one i mean i could think of they just come in and they play and if you play with them they're happy and if you don't by the way they don't come back yeah and they've been doing it so often some of these people when they're promoting shit that just stuff gets boring especially those guys who promote books because like if you know if you guys on this side of the aisle i know fans y 'all might not know this but we get like pr releases and shit and it's like so-and-so has a book and they'll even send you like here's the 10 questions to ask and and like you know so it doesn't you don't even have to read the book you just go in you ask them some basically so the economy what's going on with that and it fucking sucks I don't think one of the suggested questions is so the economy what is up for you it's like Byron Allen I know you have a joke about airplanes so you ever been on an airplane where could this possibly go Byron and the thing is whenever Roderick has authors on he actually reads the books and they're shocked and surprised because he's actually like these very in-depth and deep questions it does take a lot longer for them to be guests though yeah because i'm like i'm gonna read the shit i'm not gonna bullshit you but maybe you gotta wait a month to come on the show but you know if you give me an advanced copy you know hey it's still gonna line up with when it's time to sell the books man but yeah i i do like that stuff but but it's mostly because i hate so many of these generic and they all sound the same they're just they're just doing the thing and they're holding up the book to the camera and being like, so it's a book about this.

43:22I always try to be different. I always try to make the guest on my show, and that's what I've been doing for years. I mean, you used to do three guests a day, five days a week. Now I do one or two a day. But either way, you can see just like some of the books behind me. I have thousands of books whose authors I've had the great privilege to interview, and I love it. And I try to give them as much respect as I can in the prep, but also I try to give be different and make sure the audience isn't bored by this subject matter this guest because a lot of times the guest is a real good writer right journalist but not a good dog they're not I've heard terrible interviews like your writing is beautiful but I'm not gonna say no names man but like I was one time I was in a situation where I was so disappointed because I read this book and this dude was so fucking funny.

44:13I was like, oh my, like crying, laughing reading this book. And it's like, oh, he's going to be here today. I was like, oh shit, it's going to be fucking... But he was, he didn't have the, he didn't have the gift of gab. He had the book, the gift of writing. Yeah. And I was like, oh, that's a different muscle. This interview would be awesome if you could like maybe type out a page and then come back in 10 minutes and then say to answer this question. But like right now, I just want to fucking jump out the studio go to commercial and never come back and just pretend to like this is not selling your book this is 100 % getting your book returned no one's believing me when I'm like no this guy's fucking hilarious you guys gotta read the book okay you know what shut up let me read your book um okay but yeah it is the worst um how'd you grow up like were you in the theater were you into sports like what'd you how'd you grow up and get into this lane of entertainment you bought a sofa you didn't have to assemble.

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48:34I was into everything. I was a social butterfly, but I was both a jock and a theater kid. I went from lacrosse practice to play rehearsal. I did the morning announcements. That's very rare. I was ski club president, student government president. I made it my business to know everybody. I never missed a day of school. I did the morning announcements like my junior and senior year. I hosted the talent show my junior and senior year. It was a graduating class like 500 upstate New York outside Syracuse, a pretty, pretty rural area, almost entirely white Christian. So very homogenous and very country.

49:07And I grew up that way. My dad grew up in the city of Syracuse. My mom was a public school teacher in the city of Syracuse. But there's two types of people who become comedians, my theory, if I want to be so binary. Those who didn't get enough hugs and seek it out and those who had too many hugs and seek constant love. I had constant love in my home growing up, and I wouldn't change that or trade that for the world. Maybe it makes it harder to establish resilience when you struggle when you're older, I've found. But my parents are still alive and still love me and are still super proud of me. and so i think i i've always kind of sought that out but it is weird it is weird having good parents it is i didn't think it would be weird but the older i get the weirder that i see it is because i there's so many people that are just like oh man my parents fucking suck right don't they all suck they're just the goddamn worst i oh thanksgiving shit i gotta fucking see these motherfuckers again and i'm just like i'm not gonna say anything because it's just gonna feel like i'm either rubbing it in or being trying to be contrarian i you know this is not when we were growing up and there were movies about this it was supposed to be like a cool time but it is cool for me but i'm sorry it's not cool for you um but you're right a lot of funny people i feel like it's all like a coping mechanism or trauma response or whatever i think a lot of my humor comes from when my parents would argue i would kind of be this weird mediator between them and i think That's like how it's like, but if we're all laughing, nobody's mad.

50:36It's always interesting to wear. Yeah. You're dancing in the corner and trying to distract. I did that too. My brother, my, my dad had some issues, but more than anything else. And I think the answer to your question, I didn't quite like why humor. I was tiny. Ah, yeah. Little feller. I was the smallest person in my class for sure. And almost every year, including high school, when it really mattered, especially the boys junior high and high school i went to be late and lost my hair early which was a bit my actual year and yeah the sim thank you thank you for the right response

51:15what kind of a god would do that i was small and so being small you know and wanting to people to like me and also just as a protection mechanism as a boy to not be bullied by other boys uh uh if If they bullied me, they could beat me in a fight, and I got beat up plenty. But they were more likely to want to be friends with me than to suffer my verbal – because I would take them down. And also my brother was bullied. My older brother was bullied, and I watched that happen. It's very much a part of who I am today, why I'm very much into righteousness and justice and equal rights and human rights and civil rights.

51:58I mean, because it started with my brother being bullied and he was also got radicalized by Noam Chomsky and made me like an anti-racist, anti-sexist when I was younger. I'm still racist and sexist. Don't get me wrong. I understand the idea and I'm trying not to be all the time, especially against Malaysians. I don't know if you've met any Dominicans. I don't know many, but, you know, I mean, I can I can be talked into being racist against people I don't know. I think that's the easiest way is if you know him, it's harder to be racist. It is. It's much harder. I lived in a Dominican neighborhood And I didn't know anything about them And then I learned all I needed And I was out of there Because The music Was horrible Oh you had Is it that you can't dance Pete Is that what we're going to find out Is the Dominican music too Is it too much for you I'll have you know If there's a dance floor I'll have everybody in a circle around me, which is another early aspect of me as a performer.

53:02Roller skating parties, breakdance in the middle of the gym. The whole entire class was watching me breakdance. I made it my business for everybody to know who I was. I was the center of attention whenever I could be. And I used that, like I say, skill set to punch up. So when the bullies were in my age and younger, bullying kids who are nonconformist artists, whatever, I would crush those kids. They were my friends already. So I just had recently. I'm still very good friends. A lot of my guys, my buddies from high school. One of the biggest, meanest jocks. He said I was mean to him in high school.

53:40I go, well, you probably deserve it. You would probably be mean to me or somebody else, marginalizing somebody else. And he goes, you don't understand. and I go, what? His guy's still like 6 '5". Good looking guy, very successful. And he goes, you called me disproportionate body boy. And it stuck. He remembered that. You sketched that on that man's heart. As soon as he said that, I just started dying laughing because it was my joke. I was like, look at you. Yeah, I mean, it's good. You got to give it up. That's hilarious. And for me, and sometimes I think about me and Roger, roger actually helped me get into comedy i i feel bad for roger because i grew up in a non-funny household like literally everything was serious everything was taking the heart like all that stuff so when roger's first started dating me he actually had to be like hey calm down it's a joke like he actually had to do that several times before i was like oh you're not serious he was i think i think one of the i still i still live by the i still live by this uh comedy only really works in safety when you feel safe i'm not saying you are safe because i don't think anything's safe in comedy you just one fucking thing you're like god damn fuck that one up but the idea we're collaborating you're you're in a place where the intentions are good and we're having that's it's hard to build that with people but once you build it i mean it's basically it's sacred you know like and i think speak to the different cultures of comedy and i would talk about three in particular like kind of white boy comedy like where i grew up jewish comedy and black comedy we do gender but i don't think it really changes any of these things because i I think it's more about the culture.

55:37And I can speak to each of my opinion of each of those genres is. But I'll just say this. I grew up in my culture, the homogenous culture that I grew up in, the 80s and 90s in upstate New York. Like I said, white, mostly Christian, very little diversity. And I was exposed to more diversity because my mom was a public school teacher and cousins who were mixed race and a couple of other experiences. My parents luckily put me into, but mostly, you know, pretty much. So I grew up with that humor, which is still within itself diverse. Right. My six of my closest friends were all funnier than me. Funny guys, really funny guys.

56:10And there was another tier of guys who were also funny, but not as funny as us. And then there was the other guys that tried to be, but they weren't. Right. Then I went to college and I that's when I became I knew I wanted to be a comedian. So I became a student of comedy. And in college, I met a lot of gay people, a lot of Jewish people, a lot of Hispanic people. But I gravitated towards black people. And it was because of humor. And I could talk about that experience. I kind of want to write a book about it, but I would want to write it with them, those guys who I'm still friends with. And they taught me a whole different brand of comedy that I can speak to.

56:49And then when I moved to New York and lived in the Upper West Side and was around a lot of comedians, so many more Jewish comedians that were very influential, gay comedians, different women for sure. But that's something I think I always was curious about what made people laugh. And obviously culturally there are similar experiences. Nobody's monolithic, blah, blah, blah. But let's be honest. Like we have jokes about hunting deer and it's mostly a white person thing. Well, what about my friend, my black friend who hunts deer? All right, he can laugh too, but he doesn't consume my mouth. Right, right.

57:20This is not going to kill in this black room, and you know it. Yes, like you have to kind of figure it out. Like I said earlier, I wanted to make every audience laugh. And the best comics, the best white comics, there kind of was like black comics and white comics. Right. I mean, like the black – and on the pantheon of the best, it's mostly black comics. Right. It's then it's George Carlin and, you know, a couple of others, whatever. But. And I thought watching Bill Burr and I came up together and watching Bill and a couple of other white comics who name you probably don't know, but everybody knows Bill.

58:00He worked those black rooms and I was like, I want to work those black rooms. And because of my college experience, those guys brought me up. And then once I did, I was it was the greatest achievement. It felt the greatest just because I'm white and they're all black. I think everybody knows what that's like to something like that. And there's a bump to get over when you walk in that room. Because people will fold their arms, look at you, and it's different. It's like, make me laugh. But as with all things, too, there's also the curve the other way, right? There's like the bounce that you get off of it because it's like white people being good at anything that black people feel like we're the best at, right?

58:39If you can dance, there's an extra level of like the white boy can dance. If you can play basketball It's like an extra level Like hey check out the white dude He can actually play basketball There's always a make me laugh Posture for any audience But black people have the righteous Opinion of like why would I laugh at you Yeah And so And it's also true for black comics Don't get me wrong If a white comic walks in front of a black room But if a black comic Black people are just as afraid to perform in front of a black Everybody knows what happens when you when you bomb in front of a black audience.

59:17It happens. It's the worst. And it hurts real bad. It's the worst. White audiences are far less verbal, more patient. But the true you just said the bounce. If you if you're a white person or a black person, but if you're any comic, but especially if you're a white guy, I'll say. Yeah, it seems a little better to make people who aren't your quote people, people who don't look like you haven't lived your experience to go and kill. in front of a black room which i i did a lot in the late 90s and early aughts there is nothing better the people are running around yeah yeah it's the best yeah we we have it's the expression yeah physically react kicking legs yeah the kind of the kind of like uh physical jubilation that you get from a black audience is so wonderful and it's only you can only get that from stand-up and sleight of hand magic those are the only two times i've seen it now we love sleight of hand magic because me we it's not even it's not even like on purpose no remember we went to that fucking bowling alley thing and that dude came over and started doing slider hand magic in front of us and some weird shit with the phone man it took everything for me not to get up and run around I wanted to clap at them I'll give you two more I can't attest to it but do you think black folks will watch a hilarious TikTok video where someone slips and falls or gets scared and run around I think they'll laugh at that black people not all black people but a lot of black people will laugh at black people beating up white people with chairs that was good that was a good one that was a great day and we don't have enough of those to be honest we do not like we should we should we should we should make that an annual tradition you know find some allies that are willing to reenactment like civil war reenactments but it's just a chair at the dock never forget yeah like we're both like hey we get some cool white people to line up we won't beat you too hard you know it's just like the civil war there's no good there's no real bullets in the musket they'll be like why did you name the boat s s s folding chair because that was the name of the boat it was not sir but that's what we're gonna name it today i love it we should have a whole alternate history man yes um the first time you watch you're like damn the second time you watch it you are dying yes yeah yeah i there's that is a another thing too because i feel like you know the gallows humor of like having to go through like oppression for any group right Not just black people, any group.

1:01:56Like you have like. That's I think it's fair to say that that's a lot of truth to why the Jewish community and the black community. Right. Are so funny. And obviously art comes out of not always, not always out of suffering, but a lot of times out of suffering, obviously a lot of the best art. I think I'm never going to be a great comedian because I had a lot of privilege and I had a good childhood. And I was always like I always felt like I'm a good comedian, but I'm not a great comedian because I didn't have I wasn't molested. but you know i watched jimmy norton go up and talk about being molested nobody's like dying laughing or suicide or i'm just like oh the worst you know but i think that yeah human suffering uh is where a lot of times the lotus flower grows out of the mud and so do the jokes and people have studied that pretty well but it's also like through solidarity too and you know that's like hanging out with all those black guys in college like they taught me a kind of of humor and a brand and almost a way to laugh, a way to react, facial expressions, noises, you name it.

1:02:56And I couldn't like – I never wanted to appropriate, but I'm sure I did. And I'm sure I do a little bit. But I think like – so appropriation has gotten like a weird rep because – Yes, it has. I think some stuff isn't appropriation. It's like cross-cultural. I agree with you. I agree with you. I mean like I didn't want to be – appear to be like – You don't want to be like a cultural archivist. Like Indiana Jones of comedy. You just show up and be like, oh, so what y 'all think is funny? And you're just writing in this corner with a notepad. Yeah. I'm just going to take it from them and wear it if it wasn't mine.

1:03:33Right. Exactly. One of the things that's great is that I was this kind of – I wasn't myself such a redneck. I was in between kind of like – but they – the way I dressed versus the way all the black guys dressed in 1995 – 93 to 95 when I was in college. Those guys all had a very similar fashion with their clothes. Like I don't have to explain it to you or anybody. I was more filthy, tight, all the things. My hats, all my hats were all beta. And like that gave them jokes every day. But it also – they also – the rules were very quickly established. And that's why I was let in. That's why I lived with them.

1:04:12They were my roommates and I ate with them every day. and they were because i knew the rules just like i think a big a big part of that too is i went after them hard yeah i think a big part of that too is like um there's this thing that happens where like some of my favorite white people are just regular white people i don't like the like it's like how eminem is respected in rap because eminem never really tried to be black eminem is just rapping about like i'm i fucking hate my mom and i'm on these pills and you're like i don't even relate to this but i appreciate you staying in your lane and you are fucking and my thing is he was authentic to himself and that's kind of all that matters and and like when there would be a rap battle or a beef or a diss black people would diss m &m sometimes and he'd come back hard but it would you you respected it because he wasn't like trying to come at it from a lane of like i'm a better black person than you which which can often be the like death nail like that's the thing that'll kill everything is when i remember once uh back when i used to have white friends uh this one dude told me he was like uh hey uh rod you know what man i'm blacker than you and i was like how so and he was like i've been to jail i was like you stupid motherfucker i was slapped the shit out of you what are you talking about he's like uh i probably have sex with more black women than you i was like what is this what what does that mean what does that mean like let's talk about it and i just made it get very like i just uh i could have bailed him out laugh but i instead i just got very serious at the table and so it just got real quiet and everybody's leaning forward waiting for their answer like yeah ben what does it mean to go to jail and have sex makes you more black and he's like oh never mind i was just joking but if if if you just kind of stay more in your lane like like there's a level of respect that comes and a level of acceptance that comes.

1:06:08That's why I say it's not really appropriation. It's like cross-cultural exchange. Exactly all that. And if you be real, you will be respected. And so when it came to me hanging out, not only a lot of black men, it was a lot of black women. As a matter of fact, I just got together with five black women that I went to college with and just me at a house in Martha's Vineyard for a weekend. And it was like one of the most... We reconnect in a way but the humor was back right away and to the point like i was always just me and i think what was different from me with with humor when i was with all those black folks in the 90s was i was less inhibited than them the men especially i was a silly goose and the best thing you could hear for me the nicest compliment was pete you so stupid the girl is the best that's a compliment yeah it was always a compliment it was an acceptance and you know but i never i never you know he's you talked about the the guy that says he's blacker than you like i did anti-racist jokes with them or i asked them ignorant questions to set them up for a joke like one time we were like walking back from cafeteria dorms nine of us and i finally just go and there's always like like always an alpha and he was my closest friend and biggest guy and i just my dad told me to make friends with the biggest guy in school and that always worked and i said to him i go hey his name is taekwon i go hey man why do why why do black people walk so slow why are we walking so slow it's cold it's cold and he stopped like it should be in a movie this scene should be in a movie he just stopped and everybody stopped and he just looked at me and he goes why do white people walk so fast and there were that was all it was always stuff like that like about your friend saying i'm blacker than you i was in like i made like anti-racist jokes i don't know where this came from but i remember going to him you are black and i am white you'll be blamed for a crime i commit tonight hilarious doing stuff like that on they were just always taking shots at each other in the most brutal ways and it was such an it was like an internship it was like a cultural experience you could never design but i give myself credit for diving into people who weren't like me always the case the gay community jewish community i've always been more interested in them than the people i came from to a certain extent you're not as interested in the people you come from and to another extent white people are that can be boring yeah well they're kind of default right salt and pepper to taste they're they're the you know it's like who doesn't even for us right we have to know white culture to move in and out of america right so it's like it's like more of a survival skill like yeah you gotta know you know like uh you'll see this often with certain people like people be like you know the secret to such and such you're like what i know how to talk to these white people it's just like hey man it's a it's a valuable skill but you know it's not necessarily something a white person has to have in other areas unless they decide to go into those areas like you like if you just decide i'm staying in my pond i'm never leaving i can be a mainstream success without ever really uh trying to explore other areas but once again once you step out of those areas it does behoove you to know how to talk to other people that's a skill where you were the simplest way to illustrate what you just said is we could you could do a segment as guests on my show where i take callers and say ask black people a question and white people would call in and ask all kinds of fun ignorant maybe racist questions but you would never be me on your show and be like black people ask white people questions because you already know the answer better than we do You know the answer better than we do about us.

1:10:11If you were like, do white people wash their legs? I'd be like, I don't know. I don't. The answer is no. You missed it. Just because you wash your legs, it doesn't mean shit. Okay. We've done the research. A lot of people have to know. If you're the, we're not supposed to use the word minority, I'm totally more. But if you're the minority in a room, you need to be able to protect yourself. So you need to know who's in the room and what they might do. Women know more about men. Black people know more about white people to protect themselves from generations of predation. I mean I don't think that's breaking any new ground.

1:10:48I don't think that's a genius thing. But I think it's why you would never be like, I don't know about these white people. I just don't understand white people. But white people are also mean to white people in a way that's so weird. Like as a white dude, I'm sure you've experienced this or at least seen it. but it's like the dude that gets drunk around the homies and they're just like uh fold them up throw them in the fridge or whatever the fuck draw a dick on his face like back when i had white friends i remember one time they sent me a picture on my phone of one of the homies uh and he was butt ass naked folded up sat into a sink and uh and like drawn on and they sent it to me like ha ha and I was like is he okay where is he at do we need to go get him and they're like no it's fucking funny who did this to him and they're like we did it was like fuck y 'all right that's not funny my friend got drunk he had a bad issue with the alcohol he would drink he would pass out we did a lot of camping and drinking and so we stood him up against a tree and we duct taped him to the tree and then of course the obligatory white guy thing we drew a deck in his face and then we took a picture of it why is that a culture I've never understood that why do you do this I'm like that's supposed to be cool this is what happens when you don't have apex predators you just start doing weird shit to each other because you're like you know what we're enforcing our own rules we're like polar bears black I would say that black humor the jokes I had a fun argument with Van Nathan you know who he is um there's a late late thing yeah about this i said black comedy is meaner than white comedy it is much meaner he disagrees with me and but what you're saying is like why do white guys do that to each other it's a white guy thing more but it's a white thing pranks and stuff like that and i don't know if this is along those lines but all i'll say about black culture or black people is they don't like that um very much and to a certain extent let's get to specifically eating and food.

1:12:53So there we were. I'm 18, sitting next to this guy. I grew up in the Bronx around almost entirely black people. And I reached onto his tray to take some of his food to take a french fry. And do you know what he did? Slapped your hand away? Worse. What? Punching your face? Not as bad. Spitting the food? What'd he do? Stabbed my hand with his fork. Okay. That'll teach into food i will say this then all those black guys did have a prank that wouldn't work on white people because we wouldn't care but the prank was this when you got your food usually your dessert at the cafeteria in the dorm in college you'd push it down a piece of cake one guy would jam his finger into the cake and then the guy couldn't eat it because his finger was in it right that would not happen to a white guy if you jammed your finger into my cake i would be like i would i would just be like eat it well I think the thing with white comedy and meanness I feel like I feel like white comedy is mean to people who aren't in the room I feel like black comedy everybody in the room is on the menu like that and that's the rule that's the deal like we can fuck everybody up in here like I the amount of times you watch like either Def Comedy Jam or you go to a comedy club and you just realize oh shit I'm on the menu like they're looking around the room like hey look at this motherfucker you're like god damn I did not want to be part of this I mean the great talking about in college I mean that's where I learned that but then sitting at the table at the comedy cellar with Patrice O 'Neill and Keith Robinson and I mean I could just name every black comedian you know I mean when Kevin Hart started Kevin Hart used to come up from Philadelphia with Big J O 'Kershen and he'd come in the comedy club We never knew he was funny and stuff, but he was – as you know, he's tiny.

1:14:53He would get roasted by Patrice, who was huge, and so many other – everybody, and we all would. And it was just – it was always a firing squad. And whatever your insecurity was, that's what they were coming for. It's your nostril. Like I remember college, this tall black guy couldn't dunk. I thought he was going to kill himself with the insults, but they were funny. Yeah.

1:15:18Racism, we love it, guys. right um it's given us so much uh now what about with politics and comedy because i feel like uh there's definitely been a tightening of the like political like what what can we love what we're doing here like don't you know over the years and i think a lot of that's because the advent of social media i always think i always say bloggers and stand-up comedians were like the worst fucking venn diagram to ever meet because it's like two myopic people they're like only my point of view is valid and then they're both just shitting on each other and it just i feel like that just bloomed into the entire internet now and that's kind of like a lot of the culture um it's definitely not that way in the room right so like you go to a stand-up comedy special or just whatever just stand-up comedy in your area it doesn't feel like that it's not tight like that but a lot of the way we consume comedy now is not in the room anymore it's for everyone outside the room so like going into politics after coming out of comedy did you feel that tightening do you feel it loosening it back is like how does it feel to you now ah such a really important question and and conversation to have but i i mean i generally have always felt like a lot of that has been overblown i i feel like the main primary rule of comedy is still the truth which is don't punch down um the greats didn't really do that you know uh george carlin didn't go after vulnerable communities you know richard prior didn't go after your own people um you can say you can you can punch down to a certain extent make a funny joke but like you know targeting today like there's so many comedians like going after trans people it's so like i find that so uninteresting and almost always not funny right because if you just knew anything about the trans community you know like a lot of them are really really struggling and and suicidal the suicide rates it's like why why would you go after a community who you know like is has a lot of suicidal ideation or going after like the gay community and making gay jokes like when i started as a comedy a comedian i didn't even like to put like my then girlfriend and then wife that i never punched down at her my jokes were about me being like short my shortcomings in the marriage poor her she has to deal with me because i just felt like that kind of overt sexism of male comedians talking about their their wives i just felt like that was over and so i just never was really impressed with that so i think like the the that whole idea of punching down and punching up i still feel like that should be the rule there are exceptions right uh sexism and Racism can be funny.

1:18:07The Holocaust can be funny. Cancer can be – anything can be funny if it's done the right way by the right person, the right tone, the right home. But I think that you need to know who you are and who you're talking to and who your audience is. Right. And not all comedy obviously has a political bent. A lot of it doesn't. A third of George Carlin's act was fart jokes and observational humor and jokes on language, brilliant jokes on language. And then a lot of the other stuff was social and cultural and political. but it depends on who you are and how you fashion yourself but it has really interestingly changed in terms of like from liberal to conservative the left to the right in the spectrum in terms of what we laugh at what we're allowed to laugh at right and i think the one thing that is so often we believe narratives because they seem to fit but like the idea that liberals are more sensitive is is it is probably true in a lot of ways at least in that we care about strangers yeah it's like it's like when rob reiner died and people were like i didn't agree with his politics but let me and i'm like his politics of inclusion diversity care empathy you should kind of be a little bit ashamed to say that part out loud you should just go straight to the like man it's sad that he's dead you should just skip that part about i didn't like that he was like such a nice guy i wanted everyone to have equality that was kind of crazy i just think that the difference between yeah it's ridiculous the difference between like a liberal and conservative comedian to a certain extent or a person yeah when it comes to comedy it's like they can't laugh at themselves no they can't and a lot of them don't have a sense of humor they're like like they think trumper like i had a trumper come on uh you know some maga guy in the live chat i was doing a i think it was with jl and some guy in the comments said some nonsense but then he said some stupid manga nonsense but then he called me he said i look like a baby hamster and i was like funny yeah i i do i do look i do think that about myself i do think that's funny i can laugh at that joke which is a direct insult to how i look right and i think it's funny so you can definitely make fun of my beliefs you can make fun of all kinds of things about me and i'm able to laugh at myself because A, I'm confident, and B, I don't take myself so serious.

1:20:28But those guys, they can't laugh at themselves. That's also why they're not very funny. There's not very many conservative comedians that are very funny at all. It's much more like cultural signifying, right? A lot of the conservative stand-up now is very much like – because we all agree, and it's a premise that only if you're in a certain circle of the world would you be like, this premise makes sense. so if you're like look man these trans people are shooting up schools there's no factual basis for that joke but if you're in a certain of a certain belief system and you're in that room you're like we are going with that premise now you make the funny joke about trans people shooting up schools where even though it's not fucking true and that and that does suck because it feels like they have taken the the the universal appeal of what comedy's supposed to do they just kind of bastardize it like it's like i prefer that even if you fail i prefer you're attempting to make us all laugh like i like hey it's hard it's not an easy job but i understand the attempt when you're like boom i said this thing fuck it didn't work as opposed to just i know this joke is not that funny but i know it'll work because the people in this room want it to work more than they wanted to be funny the rules are the rules like i said you can make i comedians and satirists and everybody you know the rules are anything so the example that you gave is a tough one to make funny school shooting tough to make funny but i will help you and everybody who wants to think about making a joke if you want to make a joke about school shooting best to make it truest which is about a white guy those are the jokes about school shootings that work it's why is it always a white guy right why is it a white guy it's always you know and and that's where the comedy in that subject there's not a lot of it but if you want to find it it's in why is it white guy lots of comedians are doing that joke right yeah it's the it's the uh people that go i pick on everybody and i'm like not a lot of dead cop comedians out here not a lot of not a lot of motherfuckers making that premise work huh right yeah no one picks on everybody not a lot of you pick on war jokes out here come on now dead soldiers what are we doing no you want to leave you want to leave the fucking you want to leave the room alive bitch don't lie to me i like soldiers who don't die speaking of which man how'd you meet jl covan man how did how did you meet jl because we are meeting you through jl yes uh which is uh probably the first positive thing that's happened through us knowing jl so like how did how did you meet stand-up comedy i was probably five six maybe few years few years more ahead of him in you know i'd started meaning like five or ten years maybe even ahead of him uh i think i recognized his talent right away and i also recognized his character and we became friends like i like this guy i think he's funny he's helpful to me i'm i'm gonna help him and also i think if i think i probably had him open for me a lot of a lot of events or at least a few because I recognize a how funny he was and B how smart he was and for me I always wanted to give opportunities to all kinds of people um but if I was going to be on the road with somebody or if I'm going to be doing a gig with somebody in a car with somebody I wanted to be with somebody who is you know better than me in general those are my friends they're better than me their character their intellect their humor I think jail is better than me in all those ways and so i probably you know that's i gravitated towards him and and i always just thought he was underrated still do and always wanted to promote him he's always good to come on my show he always knocks it out of the park then and now and so i just i love him i admire him i feel bad for him when he's in pain which is most of the time all the time oh yeah when is he not in pain a great question like karen always tries when he comes on here karen tries to like fix him i'm just like no i'm sorry i'll let you stay broken he needs the misery in the way that like michael jordan made up that people used to talk bad about him and then later on we will find out in the documentary like that guy never even said that shit to michael jordan michael jordan fucking made up that that guy called him a piece of shit just so he could put 50 points on him i feel like that's jail you just gotta let him cook and then eventually like we'll throw him some curveballs and we'll get great comedy out of it we will and that's what i'm in it for okay good comedy yes though i'll get excited when i hear something bad happen in new jersey i'm like oh a train was late all right let me tune into the podcast see what's going on over there yeah i mean when i think he's happiest when he's making people laugh that's for damn sure if you've seen him performing live and seeing him killing like he also is happiest to laugh he's happy to appreciate your joke as he is to make a joke.

1:25:26He loves humor and comedy, especially when it's good and when it's original. I think he's probably happy when he's around his dogs. He seems to really like his girlfriend. He has moments of joy. I wish for him and for all of us to have more moments of joy, but I think it's important to recognize that life is filled with suffering. It's mostly suffering, a lot of it. So when you find the joy it's awesome and get to it that's my practice and certain it's buddhism and that's that's why i you know focus on i try to spread that to him but i also you know try to get get him to leave that catholic church but he's he's the real deal in that he's all up in it he he yeah he i mean i've seen him and know a lot of things he does privately yeah um that are part of i think influenced at least by his faith i like to think i do similar things and don't have to be a member of an institution that protects pedophiles.

1:26:21Same. Well, you know, look, some people need to fight the system from the inside, I guess, but I prefer to be on the outside. I'd like to be part of a church that would allow my daughter to rise to a position of leadership. That would be nice, you know? Like if we weren't patting the Pope on the back for being like, gay people, they alright. Like, what? Gay people. Human. Yeah, listen. i'm a new i'm a different type of pope okay i take the money from the gay people i'll take the money from the straight people i don't give a fuck black people bring the money we need 10 % of everything uh but i but it is uh it is uh funny that to see him like earnestly running for office like because like in on the one hand i'm like damn this dude is so funny and he's such a but also like he's such a he's so used to running up against this brick wall of comedy yes that i feel like politics can't be that much harder than ever brick wall than what he's already been doing i feel like him coming up to people cold turkey to say sign this petition how's that different than a bringer show i think he was built for this i think that i think that there's been parts of his career that are obviously really like his impressions have gotten him a lot more attention than his stand-up and it's it's only because like he's not for enough people it's not because he's not funny it's not because he's not brilliant it's like there are certain people that always have smaller cult followings because you know they they don't have the kind of universal appeal and part of that is because he's so smart a lot of his jokes are too highbrow for a larger mass audience and appeal and his style and his demeanor and a lot of those things.

1:28:09But also, and I've always said this, you know, at his heart, he's a public servant. He's always done service, acts of service as a volunteer, as a student for all different kinds of communities. And that's what he's doing now, this nonprofit that he's working in to fight homelessness and eviction. And that's why he went to law school. And that's what his family brought him up to be. His dad was very influential on him. And I think that this is really suited for him. And I think in this day and age of politics where you need people who can fight and can banter, he's the kind of person you need.

1:28:48You need people who are good performers and who are good fighters and who are smart. He's all those things. And New Jersey's 11th district would be real lucky to have him represented. Absolutely. I think so too. Like, I definitely agree with the fighter part, too, man. I'm really focused on that in 2026 because I'm I'm tired of arguing with people over degrees of difference on the left. It's it's it's so fruitless. We're not getting much out of it except eroding the goodwill we have for each other. Yes. I think I think I'm just going to practice the next year is just when somebody says something and I would have normally be like, well, wouldn't it be better?

1:29:25I'm just going to be like I don't know you're going what you going to vote for the democrat when it's time to vote fuck it though cool like I'm tired of arguing about shit that's just not it's like ultimately it would be a luxury for it to matter but we need to get in a position to be in a luxury like to have that luxury of like no $17 minimum wage rather than starting with this motherfucker says$16 minimum wage I'm staying home Like we got to figure a way out of that part so we can get to this other part. I fully agree with that. I would only add along the line, that's like politics. Like I have lost my patience with at least certain people in certain situations, I'll say, around scientific consensus, specifically, obviously climate.

1:30:14I've never had any patience for people's skepticism about the census, consensus around climate change. Right. Right. But specifically on the vaccines, I was talking to a friend of mine, a guy I hadn't talked to in years. Guy I used to be really good friends with, colleagues with, worked in media, did a lot of good things for me. But he also looked up to me and admired me. And so I decided when he said some ignorant nonsense about vaccines, I was just like, he's like, we just had our daughter. He just had a kid. I was like, oh, my God. I hadn't talked to him in years. I was like, congratulations.

1:30:43You're a dad. That's amazing. How old is he? One years old. What do you think about the vaccines? I was like, what? He's like, I don't think we're not going to do them. We're not going to do them all at once, whatever. So this time, because of who he was in my life and because of what his background does and because of what I know, I go, what are you, fucking stupid? I go, are you a stupid person? And he did this whole, you know, I'm doing my research. I'm being responsible. I'm like, you don't know how to do research. You're in media. You don't do research. I read a study. You don't know how to read a study, stupid?

1:31:15Most of us don't. How the study was conducted? Do you know who conducted it? Do you know if they used a blind randomized control variable? Do you know how many studies there were on that? I don't know what none of that means. Do you know any of the words that I'm saying? Because I just learned them from a guy who does research. And I don't know shit, you stupid fuck. You're stupid. I feel like I, and it seems like you have it too, but I definitely have this fucking like bit of a Debbie Downer in me. this like hyper vigilance part that i try to keep in check but it pops out like that because and it's it pops out more if i care about you like like if i don't if i don't like if i'm at the basketball court you say some ignorant shit or whatever it's like i don't know this motherfucker but if it's like my brother and he's like yeah i'm not getting my kids vaccinated i'm like uh hulk rage i can't like i can't stop myself from it and i i think that does come from uh being a nerdy kid that got picked on and and and all that type of shit too like it's still in me to this day um like like there's times matter of fact uh my friend justin uh one of my best friends um what we became cool because we were playing basketball against these guys and uh the guy goes to insult justin and he called just he's some form of like gay i don't think it was a slur but it was like the implication is justin is gay and we're in the middle of the game and we just stopped the clock and i was like so what would be the problem if he was gay it's like man just you know man just check up man that's just some we're like no but like like so if he was gay like what he he wouldn't be as good at basketball or whatever and everybody's like take the ball up just fucking play the ball and i was like no but it's serious because like why would you do that and like another time there were these two girls that waited all day to play with us and all the guys there's like 10 guys and they're just like nah man we got 10 and i was like well the girls have necks right no no they can't play man i was like they're gonna play or no one's gonna play right and it's like i part of me is like life would be fucking easier if that didn't exist in me but it'd be harder for them right it'd be harder for those two girls because they they never get to fucking play because the guys are just so fucking selfish and and it was an easy solution one girl on one team one girl on the other team oh fuck i'll just solve the goddamn they they play each other yeah i just solved for fucking pie it wasn't even fucking hard to solve but it's just that that unwillingness and selfishness that people have and yeah like i said part of me i i hate that i can't stop it but part of me i i don't i can't imagine being a person that didn't have it because i look at those people as like cowards yeah i love the way that you talked about that quality of yours and it makes me like you a lot more admire you a lot more and probably think that might be why we are connected to a certain extent because i live by a couple of simple ideas be the change you want to see in the world so if someone is putting someone down treating someone poorly what are you doing in that moment if you don't if you want to save the environment what are you doing about it another one is surround yourself with people who fight for you in rooms that you're not in right if someone if i'm in a room with all white guys and they say something about black people or more likely you know i guess the best example is in the 19 guys i talked to in a text chain from high school after charlie kirk died the one there's a couple trumpers in there i hate them and didn't want them invited but they're in there but i'm there to confront them so charlie this guy went off on charlie kirk and how good he was and i was like wrong place yeah i i lit him on fire and we haven't heard from him since and i'm i'm proud of that right act like you know surround yourself with people who fight for you in the rooms that you're not in and finally the one that i think about all the time i heard this australian general say years ago i was covering this issue in the news it was during they had some horrible incident of sexual harassment which all militaries have an epidemic of it men harassing women and other men generally speaking but there was some horrible issue and so this australian general in his cool australian accent um basically he said the standard you walk past is the standard you accept the standard you walk past is the standard you accept so if someone's over here you know making gay jokes and you're just allowing it or making racist jokes and you're just allowing it there's a million ways to handle it.

1:35:56I know it's uncomfortable. But I know that I, if my Jewish friends, my gay friend, my black friend or loved one knew that I stood by and allowed that, they would be disappointed and ashamed of me. And I personally can't live with their disrespect. So I've been that way pretty much my whole life. And it has made me a lot more friends than it's lost me. It's gained me a lot more respect. Then it's lost me. And it's my favorite quality. Because in some ways, like, in a way, it's not even really about the other. It's about me. Like, I'll just, like, in a way, it is about me. Where I'm just like, I'm not going to be in a place where this shit is.

1:36:41And I don't know if you found this, too. But all this talk, like, alpha male this, all this shit. Men are so fucking easy to just be like, no, we're not doing that. and the vast majority of the time they're just like oh yeah okay i see what you mean like it's like it's not always a fight like uh the way i lost my white friends was when they when trump was running i remember uh he was saying the first time he's like mexicans are rapists and shit and i was like these guys are fucking racist what the fuck no one you can't vote for this shit and i was like well you know i mean i'm most about the economy i was like fuck you and fuck that don't you vote for this dude we won't be hanging out anymore and uh one of them like got a little chippy and was like what do you know you just have like a podcast and and all this shit you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and i was like oh okay my little podcast okay cool um so i was like uh i'm gonna read i'm gonna read this email on our pot little podcast that no one listens to that you don't respect and the way this man got scared i didn't say his name or anything like he was like man take it down take it down i was like no i'm just gonna post screenshots without your name and it just don't mean and i'm just gonna say on my little platform hey this is what the fuck white people are talking about with trump and the excuses they're making for his racism and bigotry and that's and that was when the other white friends popped up to be like hey man you maybe take it down man or whatever and i was like fuck everybody right that's how i lost him because i was like i'm not gonna be in an environment where him saying that to me y 'all didn't say shit right when i was like hey man this guy's racist and i thought you guys weren't y 'all are like crickets like rattle handle it but then when i'm like hey man i'm put you on blast they're like whoa whoa whoa now let's not go too far and i think you know i'd rather i'd rather be like this than to be like that you know yeah i think one of the major issues that we've seen uh lost as a result specifically of trump and the genre and the movement that there's a loss of shame yes you can say anything you want to anyone you want and so i'm always for putting someone on blast oh if if that doesn't matter if you i love these videos when someone just says some horrible stuff and people tape it and you know they they have their lives you know destroyed I wouldn't wish that on somebody, but it's important that the rest of us who see that be like, I should keep some things myself.

1:39:09Yeah. You know, I don't want to be out here. Shame is a really, really important thing. I mean, I try to keep change. And I can tell you, you know, we all should be able to have a lot of stories where we stood up and did the right thing. It's like, you know, like when a woman's being catcalled in the street one time in New York City, this, you know, guy's leaning out of his truck. He's like, hey, mommy. Hey, poppy. Why don't you come over here to poppy? Let me get some of that, whatever. and the woman's like looking at him. He's walking. I just walk up to him. I lean up to his truck. I was like, hey, Poppy.

1:39:39It don't feel good, dude, when it's unborn it. Yeah, one time I was at the court and my boy MT saw some chick walking up. And look, I didn't even finish. I ended up selling that guy's dick. Oh, of course. Yeah, no. I assumed that. That's why I didn't cut you off because I was like, you don't even need to tell her. I know how this goes. I hope you charged a fair price for your services. Don't do it for free now. Yeah. The game is to be sold, not told. Ain't that the truth. Okay. But I remember my friend MT, there was some girl walking up on the track when we were playing ball and she was attractive.

1:40:10But he was like, hey, hey, girl or whatever. MT is white, by the way. He's like, hey, girl. Hey. And I was like, what are you are you doing that to impress me? Like she can barely hear you. And she's definitely not going to be like, oh, my God, I need to run downstairs and give this guy some pussy. so what like what is you're clearly just doing this so that i know that you think that girl's attractive i can see from down here motherfucker now you just got us looking corny and i just kept calling him corny but like a lot like i said it's so funny uh people get so like worried about not fitting in or whatever since we were like kids and it is so funny how you flip the power like that and almost every time it's like oh yeah no no i'm much cooler than that i actually could have walked up there and got her number because i'm a real cool guy like that i'm like yeah you were corny and don't let me catch you being corny in front of me again quiet confidence it's not what you see it's what you feel a suit tailored just for you a perfectly timed guy's trip choosing on plus nicotine pouches over rough corners and edges because some things may look better, but the other things simply feel better.

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1:44:05Apple Vacations, where your story starts. The July Savings Event from Apple Vacations is here. Book by July 23rd and save up to$400 off your flight and hotel package to Mexico, the Caribbean, Central America, Hawaii, or Europe. From all-inclusive escapes to bucket list adventures, Apple Vacations makes it easy to create memories with the people who matter most. Start today at AppleVacations.com or contact your trusted travel advisor. Apple Vacations, where your story starts. yeah well sexist and and like we're all sexist and we need to recognize it and and see it for what it is and try to be better and the best example of that behavior you just mentioned the most best national example was billy bush on the access hollywood tape oh god and a hot mic catches then celebrity trump saying yeah you're famous you can grab him by the pussy and billy bush just laughs and doesn't say anything and then the world finds that out later well i was on real time with Bill Maher on HBO and Billy Bush was on that episode.

1:45:04Oh, you go watch the clip because Billy Bush still didn't seem contrite, even though Bill Maher brought him back to like do a rehabilitation. Right. You know, and I went after Billy Bush, similarly what I said here about the principles I live by. I said that quote, the standard walk passes the standard you accept. Maher did not like what I said. Yeah. So he attacks me and he's like, oh, Pete, you've always been great with women and you've never this. And I said, no, man, no, I absolutely objectified women in my life. I've absolutely thought about women as vessels to be conquered. I still catch myself doing it and thinking and saying inappropriate things.

1:45:43But I did mature at a certain point. And more importantly, I was never in a group of friends or with a bunch of men that talked about taking sex or joking about assaulting women. what we did what most guys i know do locker room talk right was this i want to fuck that girl and then your buddy's going she'll never fuck you and that was the end of it yes the real locker room talk oh man the talk off the talk i'm not privileged to sometimes roger got to roger tell me we don't talk like that yeah that was actually the most offensive thing about that trump shit was when they were like his locker room talk i was like no it's not well i I don't know what the fuck you guys talk about in the locker room.

1:46:25That is not the locker room talk is like, put your old balls away. Like even my twenties, I don't know how you were raised or how that guy was raised, but in my twenties or my thirties, obviously now I have daughters for God's sake. Sometimes people are like, oh, you shouldn't be like a pro woman, feminist type of person just because you have daughters. I'm like, well, I would care more about cerebral palsy if my kid had that. So I have daughters. So I think a lot about women and I've worked on issues with women's equity and reproductive rights and domestic violence and all these things. And the bottom line is like in my 20s or 30s or now, like if I knew a man I knew, whether if he was a stranger even as we're talking about, much less like I knew, touched a woman, roped a woman.

1:47:07Right. Like what would my – I'd probably slap the shit out of him, but I would certainly say something. Right. And it would be horrible. I don't know if I would – like who's doing that? and that's definitely not the homie we'll see this like it's definitely like he's definitely also not the guy that's like you're kicking it with like he comes back and he's like dude i just grabbed so many pussies and you're like bro whoa i'm gonna i will out my friend this summer i was at a birthday party for my buddy's 50th so we're all 50 and my friend's 80 year old mom was there and he gets so drunk that he put his arm around her and what i thought was not an appropriate way but she didn't care i don't think because he's so small and non um threatening and so drunk but it is weird that he put his arm around an 80 year old our friend's mom like he basically was in the past as a 50 year old at our friend's 80 year old mom i was like what are i i mean i grabbed him and pulled him out of the situation but still like what are you doing she's 80 bro mama gotta have a life too all right trying to find him a sugar mama was was she upset with you well she's like dude i almost got some fucking action what are you doing i've been i've been fucking i've been working this 50 year old dude all goddamn night i've been working this room i end up poking up with her like a gentleman yeah okay i was sober consent was that like yeah absolutely okay listen i hear what's going on these old folks home communities man they're spreading this stds around bro they they know what's up they like we ain't got much longer to live so like what's living six more months with the clap you know what i'm saying like why are we why am i even stressing that right now oh i caught i caught syphilis oh no not not not me at 90 oh i mean i like to think that at that point in my life i'll have so few shits to care about and so much less time to live that i would sign up to live in a nursing home called the clap yes honestly i think that's that's when you let loose with the drugs.

1:49:14I'm up at the CLAP community home. Shady Acres, the CLAP division. Pete, man, this has been so fun, man. You have to come back another time. We'll do less of an interview thing and we'll do some pop culture. And we'll do some games. Yeah, we'll play some games. We'll actually do about white people because we don't know that much about white people. We have a lot of news about white people. Yeah, we have a segment called White People News. We're just always hopeful that maybe the white people we have as guests might know who these people are. Give me one. Okay, let's do one. Zachary Ty Bryan could face full prison sentence.

1:49:57You know who that is, Karen? Actor. I have no idea. Karen's going with actor. Pete, do you know who Zachary Ty Bryan is? Yeah, he was on the show Home Improvement. that's a fucking magic trick I'm gonna get up and run around

1:50:15he's running around Zachary Ty Bryan

1:50:22Roger can stand stuff up I'm dropping stuff because that was a magic trick that was sleight of hand I don't know who that man is but Pete did we can't hear him baby you're frozen oh I'm frozen

1:50:37my internet disconnected uh for a second let me try refreshing oh my god that really just happened um oh man they're gonna hear this later and be like what the fuck happened oh joy of the stage right off the internet that's how good it was i'll be right back it was so good it was a magic trick i literally i dropped my picture i dropped my picture off the wall uh because i ran away because that sleight of hand that he just did uh was was a magic trick to me guys that was amazing i don't know who the fuck zachary brian ty brian he has three first names i have no idea those are three white first names except unless it's tyrone and i would have never known.

1:51:26I just read a news story. I got one for you guys. Do you know in the news right now there's a controversial story about someone. Do you know Ian Ziering is? Ian Ziering. He's got to be an actor. I know or a musician. I know this. You know I don't. God. 90210. that's right Steve Sanders 90210 here's what we've got for you Rod since you won we do have very excited small sandpaper block yes nice I've never you know for rec never watched that show you haven't not a one episode I loved that show when I was younger oh man yeah it was my friends because I never saw friends I have such huge cultural holes in my life in the 90s because I went through the 90s Spike Lee Malcolm X hat days where I would just be like that's white people shit and I just wouldn't watch it.

1:52:31I never saw Friends. I never saw Seinfeld. And then I remember I got a TV in my room with me and my little brother and it couldn't get cable. It could only get the regular over the air channels. And so every day I would watch Seinfeld and I was like this is the fucking funniest shit I've ever seen in my life. The opposite, like growing up white in the 80s, 90s and the access you had, like the references I had to black people in black culture were mostly television, entertainment, music. And I was never a big music person of any genre. But a lot of what I thought about, I used to do this joke in my stand up back in front of black audiences.

1:53:06A lot about what I thought about black people in black culture was something I learned from, you know, predominantly black show, which, you know, most of the time did a pretty good job. Right. In the 70s, 80s of representing. But the show that was most indelible to me, the show that I laughed the hardest at, and I wouldn't say it was like typical of black culture or whatever, because it was mixed, was The Jeffersons. Yes. I love The Jeffersons. The Jeffersons is a show to this day, and I can still hear my brother, we would what we call scream laugh, screaming laughing at George Jefferson and Florence, whose name, what's her name, the actress's name, she's still alive, Marla.

1:53:40I think she's the only person alive. And that show for me was – Marla Gibbs, I think. Marla Gibbs. and there were a lot of other you know predominantly black shows too that i like i liked black like sitcom and and comedy oh that's the thing dude black culture is basically american culture right like so much of our cultural export in america has just been like black people shit like even stuff that's white people shit now was black people shit then it was rock and roll it was jazz and i think i'm just speaking off i'm speaking out of a lot of ignorance but i think it's true TV was overwhelmingly dominated by white actors and white shows, always to the point where you could talk about the first black onscreen kiss with like Sidney Poitier.

1:54:21The first black lead or or even the awards, which is more nonsense. But like so for white people who were at least trying to be open minded, curious whether they knew anything or not. But certainly I was grown. I was curious that way. Like it was hard. TV was your thing. Music was never my thing. Music radicalizes people In all kinds of ways And I just never got into it It's my cultural blind spot But television and particularly comedy That was where I guess what I mean to say with that You would think the Jeffersons would be like a niche show But it's like A lot of people love the Jeffersons Because it was just dope There was a thing in a lot of black comedians A lot of comedians have done this joke But there was also a thing There was all kinds of things that it did that didn't help white folks right yeah it used to be all the jokes that you know well i thought black people didn't this or that right but but one of the jokes is that like grown-up white in america You're watching a lot of TV.

1:55:21You might have been vulnerable to the idea that there were a lot of young black boys with that disease where they didn't grow into full men. There was only like nine shows on TV and one was Emmanuel Lewis and one was Gary Coleman. Like, why would I would cast in these cute young black boys? They are non-threatening. It was partially because they had the maturity of an older boy and they could play a kid and they had those funny lines. They were so good at comedy as a result. What you talking about, Willis? But there was also where white people were like, what's wrong with little, why are those little black boys not growing?

1:55:56I think. I don't want to not age in like cartoons. I think Larry Wilmore, in his book, I Wish We Got Casinos. I think he's called those Shetland Negroes. That's hilarious. Like little. Oh, God, that's not nice. That is hilarious. Yeah, that's funny. I remember reading that chapter fucking crying, man. Oh, my God. Pete, man, this has been fun, dude. It has. Tell the people where to find you. Yes. You know, and like how to be down with Podjam 3. Podjam April 9th. Check it out. There's a link for people to go buy tickets on my website, Stand Up With Pete. My show is a daily show. Every day I interview really smart experts, really great entertaining people.

1:56:45I do a full news recap every day, too. It's my whole job, my whole life. My kids are 18 and 21 and don't need me much anymore. I love my work, and so I produce a show every day. It's a lot, but if you want to check it out, subscribe on YouTube and Substack or listen wherever you get your podcasts. Stand up with Pete Dominick, and I can't wait to join forces with you guys more throughout the year and certainly up to April and connecting our communities as much as we can, hopefully in person. Yes, sir. At A Jam 3. Yeah, man. Looking forward to it. I've never been to Vegas so we'll see what that's like I know Pete famously does not like the city and I've already got listeners that are like no I'm going to show you the real Vegas or whatever we'll see guys I don't want to end up with my hand in a vice the new sphere the sphere the energy sucking the sphere got his own time zone I do want to see the sphere though I feel like I'm part of the problem because I'm like, I mean, it's already there.

1:57:51I do want to look out the side of a plane and be like, that's a big-ass TV. Yes, that's what I want to do too. We came over the hill and we're in the car in Vegas and my friend Nick, he sees it and he goes, is that the sphere? I was like, no, you stupid motherfucker, the moon landed. What do you think that is? Of course, what else could it be? Is that the sphere? Is that the sphere? You stupid motherfucker. that's amazing we'll be back throughout the week everybody uh for premium people we're doing our sports show tomorrow um and we're gonna do our nerd off with just me and karen where we're gonna talk about our favorite nerd things we did this year and and give you all our wrapped like here's the video game we played the most you know all that shit they send you we're gonna do that uh thursday so we do have a busy week for people uh behind the paywall and the rest of you guys We'll see you Saturday.

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