The State of Streaming: Tubi | SVU

28:59Now, I don't think that's due to my, you know, my Wi-Fi because when I do it on the Big Red machine on Netflix, it works like a charm because they're, you know, cause I'm paying for that for this. They're like, what you want me to move fast. You're not even paying. So it's not, uh, it's not the best. So I give them high marks in usability, uh, for the laptop, but on my Apple TV with my little Apple remote, it's pretty crappy. I got to say, and you got to type stuff in and you know, you're using the letter, you know, you can't type you typing in. If you want Dr. Who D-O-C-T-O. It's a little bit annoying.

29:39And then in terms of the live TV section, it's almost unusable on the Apple TV because things hang. You've got your screen. It's like I felt like my great-grandfather. What is this? It's so much noise. It's total chaos on the laptop. It keeps flashing the number 12 over and over. What do I do? The live TV function on the laptop was cool. And that's how I dug down and that's how I found the 24 hours of supermarket sweep. It was pretty cool. The one thing I will say is you can't get a moment of quiet. So when you open it up, the live TV, the top channel automatically comes on. And because right now we're in the middle of the World Cup.

30:21Yes. And they license the World Cup. That's impressive because they're part of Fox. Well, it's because they're part of Fox. So Fox has tossed a little World Cup on there. Yeah. And there's a lot of sports here, too. I would imagine any sports on Fox is going to be on here. So that's great if you don't want to pay for cable or whatever. I don't know if football games are on here or not, but I had a lot of sports that I got through. So while I was inventorying and looking for cool stuff on the live TV, I couldn't get the World Cup to stop. And there was no X. There was no mute. There was no pause.

30:55And then when I was like, enough, the World Cup is driving me crazy. I just clicked at something at random. It was some old movie with Rosalind Russell, and then she was there, and Rosalind Russell couldn't shut up. So I was a little bit annoyed at the lack of an off button. So that's a ding, and I didn't even get that far on my Apple TV. It was so unusable. So I give it very poor marks on usability on the Apple TV, and I give it fair marks on my computer. Okay. I will say this. the commercials are definitely a factor but here is a twist for you jordan i tell me the the that that uh ambient noise channel you were talking about i am not sure whether it was just that channel that didn't have the commercials because i was watching things and there were sometimes commercials and then sometimes i would not get commercials and i don't know if it's a glitch or I don't know how it works.

31:55Don't tell anyone. When I was watching Return of the Killer Tomatoes, I think I only had one commercial break in the entire movie. And sometimes you would get something every 15 minutes or so, and other times there would be long stretches. I wonder if they scale it based on how many times it's used. If there's something that's so rare, it's such a bargain basement that no one in their right mind is pressing play. They just leave it alone. but something like you said you watch pads of glory which is in there that's in the hubert collection that gets good placement i watched independence day two right around independence day they they loaded that that one with ads so it could be that they have a scaling system the more people click the more ads get served so yes and i will say the one thing is like a prime video which even though you pay for it you now have ads unless you i guess you can You probably I think you can pay for Prime Video Prime or something where you can avoid the ads.

32:53You can't avoid the ads when you're watching something like, you know, with John Krasinski and at the ads are going to be right there. But the ad breaks are visible in the program. They show you on little with little dots on the timeline. There's going to be a commercial coming up in X number of minutes. So if you were like, OK, I need to use the restroom. Oh, I'll just wait for there to be a commercial and I'll go use it. But on 2B, again, they're expecting you to do the work. They're not – this is a little bit bargain basement. We don't know. We don't know when there's going to be a commercial.

33:25And they might just pop up. And that does sometimes make them more obtrusive because you can be in the middle of a dramatic scene about the killing – the potential killings of soldiers for being cowards in World War I if you're watching Paths of Glory. but other times they're like you could be watching something and there you can go long stretches and go you know i haven't seen a commercial in a while and you don't know when there's going to be one coming up so it's a jump scare it's good for horror it is it can be a little bit of a jump scare all right so what did you give your number did i miss it no i'm gonna say five i guess okay i'm gonna say six yeah five all right yeah sam are you keeping track of these numbers for us sam he is okay can you imagine how furious uh stanley kubrick would be at the way to be is treating pairs of glory yes he would just be i mean this is the guy who would send notes to the projectionist on how on on what the volume levels should be at which reel and whatnot it's not just it's not just uh it's not just to be though i mean on netflix you can watch something at 1.5 speed you think Kubrick would have liked that?

34:34You think he would have liked you watching Tom Cruise wander through fake New York City at 1.5 speed? I don't think so. Probably not. Probably not. Okay, our next category. Yeah, the next chapter is... Reliability. Reliability. Reliability slash how often do you deal with crashing out-of-sync audio grainy video? And my response was, seems okay. didn't have any problem with any of the things you mentioned except for this i did audit some of those really kooky early doctor who episodes because i like early doctor who and there's there's no way to make doctor who look good i mean unless you were to remaster you know there's no way because the original format was one inch videotape um but it looked particularly bad on my tv when I was streaming it on Tubi.

35:29Like it was the worst I've ever seen Doctor Who. And then I watched it on my computer. I had the live Doctor Who channel on, on both my computer and my TV. And it was funny because like, they were like half a second out of sync. So I'm hearing, you know, the guy with the crazy scarf talk twice. It looked better on my TV. There was more, maybe just because the pixelization was better. The image was smaller. So if you're going to be watching an old, old old old thing on a bad format to begin with stick with your computer so everything else was fine i mean there's only so much you could do with old doctor who but it looked on you like i've seen doctor who streaming on uh other services and it hasn't looked quite as bad as it looked on to me so i gotta ding him a little bit for that

36:24I didn't use a television. I just used my computer, which I use for a lot of viewing. And I didn't have any issues. I mean, the only thing I would say is the ads. You know, the ads are weird and random and sometimes very intrusive. but you know like I watched Paths of Glory uh you know was it as good as watching it on a beautiful Criterion Blu-ray or I don't know if they have a 4k but I'm sure it wasn't but it looked pretty good it did not look you know like uh you know I didn't have issues with the with the audio with the video it was a decent print I know Jordan was saying earlier he had some issues with prints looking like mud.

37:07Yeah. So I, but I didn't have any issues to speak of. I would, I wish I did. Rewinding back and forth. It was fine. I mean, it was like any other service, right? Yeah, exactly. I guess I will say, and maybe this was something I should have maybe mentioned in the previous segment. I don't love, at least on the laptop, that you have to rewind 30 seconds. I like a 15 second back. 30 is too much. You might be right. Yeah, I agree. 15 is the right number. I agree. 30 is too much. Maybe I missed a line or I want to rewatch a reaction or a specific shot. I don't need to go back 30 seconds. That's too much.

37:45You're right. I just watched something on Disney Plus last night on my computer and they had the 15, which is the, I even thought to myself, that's the right amount. It's perfect. So it's pretty good. I give it a seven. I give it an eight. The next category is quality. Quality in terms of the. Well, it's, let me, let me interrupt. It's quality slash variety of originals. Originals. Okay. How often do you want to watch and how often do you actually watch the original programming? All right. I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't really understand the assignment. I give this an incomplete. I didn't actually watch any to be originals.

38:26I did see a few of them. They looked mostly like podcasts. But what I and there was one that I thought was an original. It was like these two people just talking. I don't know what it was. But I was amazed at the live TV, the depth of it, like the Bob Ross channel. I mentioned before there was no chill out stuff like on Pluto, but they did have a channel devoted to BBC Earth, which I thought was pretty cool. That's what I could see using a lot. Then they had a channel. It's so funny. They had these, remember there was a, I'd say it was like 2008, 2009, when they had all these shows, ice road truckers and Alaska fishermen, all these like guys that work in dangerous jobs.

39:08And there was a show that I actually did watch once for like, I got sucked in the tractor beam and watched it for like an afternoon called Axemen. Do you remember Axemen? It was a popular show. No, I don't. Maybe the name sounds vaguely familiar. I never watched it. Yeah, it was about these guys. it was about loggers in Oregon chopping down trees. And there's a 24-hour channel of Axemen. The people who were in Axemen aren't even going to be watching that. The mom of the head Axeman, even they're not going to be watching this. It's ridiculous. So it was just sort of like I was really impressed with the depth of it.

39:45And then there were some other things that I thought were originals, but they were just YouTube channels on the live TV. And this is where I'm kind of not in the demographic, but a lot of these were like streamers, like just people talking, not like political streamers like you see in the news, like, you know, these loudmouth racists and whatnot. It wasn't like that. But there was something called Jubilee TV. And I have seen clips of this online from the from the youth. it's like these dating shows that are in like a white void where they get a lot of sexy girls in tight clothes and a lot of hunky guys in tight clothes and they like kind of flirt with each other and I was like oh that's where this comes from it's it's something called Jubilee TV and I clicked on it it was like dating it's a YouTube channel but they just have it on this so that's as far that's as close as I got to originals I was impressed by the depth of it if I liked the particular podcasters like there was one there was like these two guys and a gal they were yapping in front of their mics and they I was like who are these people I think they're called mythic I think it was called mythic and I googled mythic and it's like a popular podcast since 2012 like are you kidding me they've been around that long who are these people so I'm a little bit out of it on this but I did not watch any to be originals did you actually watch any to be originals well no I didn't watch any I didn't know that to be had originals until we were doing this episode and I I did some searching on their interface.

41:16And sure enough, there is a category. They have a category on there for to be originals. And it's quite long. Shockingly long. All filled with things that looked, frankly, very bad. I mean, there wasn't one thing that looked. A lot of things that looked like they in a previous life would have been Redbox originals. You know what I mean? That's the kind of material we're looking at. You know, we're talking about a weekly talk show called The Other Football featuring Ron Gronkowski, a cartoon called The Freak Brothers, a WWE wrestling show called Evolve, a what looked kind of like an asylum mockbuster called Butch Cassidy and the Wild Bunch.

41:59They had two direct-to-video War of the Worlds, I guess, sequels or spinoffs or ripoffs called War of the Worlds Annihilation and also War of the Worlds Extinction. There was a show called Busted on Bodycam that I bet is fantastic. But I guess looking through this page did make me realize, OK, I guess occasionally I do get PR emails about to be originals. If they've released anything that has made any sort of an impact on broader popular culture, I don't know what that would be. I don't think that's happened yet. And the fact that you didn't even know that there were any and you now granted, you probably should have read a little more carefully and known what you were looking for.

42:48But in looking around, you didn't come across anything. Now, these were all marked to be original. So the fact that you didn't find these on your own. No. Looking through, and you did look through this service a lot. I think that says something also about the way that even though they have these things, they're kind of siloed off a little bit. There's a degree of information overload when you're on these things. It's like there's all these images coming your way. There's like, oh, my God, Independence Day Resurgence. I should watch that. And like, wow, they have the killing? two holy smokes right it's so i looked to see is there one of these that looks even remotely interesting that maybe it's worth giving it a shot and i ultimately was like i don't want to watch any of these that's why i wound up watching paths of glory and return of the killer tomatoes i was like i would much rather spend my time watching things like that and um so i looked through the selection and watched none and i feel like that's it's that's its own damning review in and of itself so what do you want to give these i'll give it like i'll give it a three i'll give i'll give it a three because i'm impressed by what i'm referring to i guess i'm i'm giving it three but i should give it a zero but i'm giving it a three because to me all that weird stuff on the live section that uh that jubilee tv thing the dating stuff like all of that an axe man the bob Ross channel.

44:10I'm calling that originals because where the hell else am I going to see 24 hours of Bob Ross? Now, let me ask you, Ron Gronkowski is the other football. What is the other football? I think it's soccer. I think it's more of their World Cup related material. Is he a soccer player, Ron Gronkowski? No, he's a football player. So why is it the other football? Because he's talking about the other football, meaning football, meaning soccer. Why would they get him to do it? He's the worst guy to do it. You should get a soccer player to do it. Well, he's kind of a, you know, he's a celebrity and a media personality now.

44:44I disagree. I think that's a really dumb idea. And now I get a 2.5. I didn't say it was a good idea. I said, that's why he, I just said what it was. I'm not a development executive at Tubi. What are you putting me on blast for? What's up? It's Gronk and Jameis. And we're both super excited for the World Cup coming up and need a brush up on our soccer knowledge. So what score? You gave it a three? I gave it a three. I'm giving it a one. Wow. Good for you. Okay. Finally, the price. How much is it? Is it worth the price? It's free. It's free. It's not great in terms of originals. The ads are not ideal, but you can't beat that price.

45:26Yeah. The ads really suck. I mean, I could imagine what it was like watching a real movie like The Killing. Sorry, of Pads of Glory. Like I said, I was watching Independence Day 2, which, by the way, Matt Singer, have you seen Independence Day 2? I saw Independence Day Resurgence and put a little respect on its title. Independence Day colon Resurgence. I saw it in the theater on opening night because they did not have press screenings for that film. I knew it was going to be bad. It was horrible. It is truly horrible. I was not prepared for just how bad it is. It is actually so bad it's good. I actually recommend it.

46:02and maybe one day we should cover it no we shouldn't it it is on shockingly bad if i like laughing i was all when i wasn't sleeping i was laughing but those ads did annoy the f out of me so i gotta say it's free but at a certain point it's like pay 3.99 like if you're gonna watch like the good movies like raging bull is on there if you if you don't want to have a way to watch raging bull for free maybe spend$3.99 and rent it on Amazon or Apple for for Killer Tomatoes watch it with the ads for Independence Day Resurgence watch it with the ads but for something that you actually want to have a mature cinematic encounter with unless you're absolutely broke and you're in debt I mean I don't know maybe some of our listeners are in debt and and and should not even be uh you know should be donating blood instead of listening to this show but if you have a job and$3.99 to spare, sometimes don't go to Tubi.

47:01So I'm of mixed feelings. It's free, but there is no free lunch. Nothing's free. You're getting these ads. The ads suck. You're hearing about Jardians and diabetes pills really loud all the time. So I'm going to give it a seven. I give it a seven is my rating. Well, look, maybe our listeners - Sam is making a high face. Maybe our listeners, maybe our listeners are, are they're listening while they're donating blood. Did you think about that? Look, you're, you're right. I mean, it's not the way it is not the way that Stanley Kubrick intended you to watch Paths of Glory, but he didn't intend you to watch it on a television at all.

47:42So, and I am of the generation, as is Sam and Jordan, that we, we grew up watching things with ads. There was, you know, like, yes, yes, we had HBO and movies would play on HBO without commercial interruption. And for a while they aired that way on AMC as well. But at a certain point, AMC, which is where I watched a lot of movies growing up and even PBS. I used to watch the first time I watched The Sting was on PBS. And every 10 minutes I would be there was a it was a pledge drive, for God's sake. And I had to sit through them and I was enraptured by this movie. but I still had to sit through them yakking about tote bags.

48:22Raphael P. Roman wanted your money. Yeah, right. So I'm not saying that's I'm not necessarily defending the ads. All I'm saying is that I am kind of I'm sort of used to that at this point. Or in some way, it's almost nostalgic to me to watch a movie with ads. And if they're not too obtrusive and if they're not put in too haphazardly, it doesn't bother me that much. Or if they're not so long, some of these fast channels, or services, you go to put on an, you know, when there's an ad break, it's three and a half minutes sometimes. And that's too much. 30 seconds. I can, I can give you 30 seconds to sell me, you know, pills, blood pressure pills, three and a half minutes of ads.

49:04And a lot of times they don't have a lot of inventory. So you see the same ad three times that drives me crazy that I can't stand, but that was not the experience I had this week on 2B. I know every potentially negative side effect of Jardians. So I can list them. You might have chronic constipation if you're on Jardians. So, you know. Yeah. So the ads are not ideal. But I think, you know, as a small price to pay for some of, we missed it. They have some good movies on here. If you're willing to put up with the ads. I feel like it's kind of honestly I walked out of this experience thinking 2B has more stuff than I realized and I am going to use it more in the future yeah same here so for the price you said 7 I'll give it an 8 I will give it an 8 and so Sam will add oh he's making faces we can't hear him he's muted but Sam's making ooh faces so Sam I think let's take a break We don't even have to take a break.

50:06Oh, you got the total? I've tallied it all up. I did it while you were talking. You had enough fingers and toes to count this up? I did it. Without a break? Well, you threw in the.5, which of course complicated things. I'm sorry. But remarkably, you guys came out almost exactly with the same number. Jordan, you came out at a total of 30, and Matt, 30.5. Wow. What we don't have is we don't have the numbers that we compare it to where Netflix came out. Wait, I'm going to look for it. I think I have it. I think I put it in our little channel here. Hold on. I'm scrolling back. Here it is. I have it.

50:42Here I have it. I have it. Okay. Once again, we're ready. We're really fast. You ready? Here it is. For our first, so when we did this for Netflix, Matt, that's me, gave Netflix a 29, meaning I gave Tubi a slightly better score. Wow. Jordan gave a 33. so jordan prefers netflix to tubi according to these yeah and i stand by that i stand by that so then it's then the system works exclamation point yeah but there you go that's our that's our state of streaming of tubi yeah i just feel like it's important to mention the listeners that though rare jordians can cause a dangerous buildup of acid in the blood even if your blood sugar is not extremely high symptoms include nausea vomiting stomach pain and troubled breathing The little pill with a big story to tell.

51:31Now, normally we recommend another title that relates to our main review on the show. This week, because we're talking all about Tubi, we're just going to recommend something on Tubi in our... Rek Seg. Rek Seg. Rek Seg. Auga. Auga. All right. It's the recommendation segment. It's the Rek Seg. Jordan. Rek Seg. Yeah. Do you have something you want to recommend on Tubi besides ambient noise to fall asleep to? Yes. I'm going to make it quick. I do want to give a shout out to Tubi because two of my very recent Rex eggs were available. What's Up Doc, which I mentioned a few weeks ago. I forget what that was connected to.

52:10Probably a romantic comedy. And The In-Laws, which I adore, which we talked about last week with Little Brother because it's about the tightly wound Alan Arkin and the spasmodic Tasmanian devil played by Peter Falk. Both Tubi films. I looked around and I almost recommended something just because it's a deep cut and I've never seen it. And I said, Jordan, you can't recommend a movie you've never seen. But I've never seen Roman Polanski's What? You know about What? It was a movie he made like in between movies. It's like a very weird thing in his catalog and I've never seen it. And now I know it's on Tubi.

52:49But I can't recommend it because I never saw it. But they did have one of my favorite sci-fi, psychedelic freak out movies ever, man. And that is Altered States. Oh. William Hurt in a tank of salt water reverting to a primordial state. Regressing. Regressing into it. I'm eating. I'm eating a goat. This is a line for the movie. I'm drinking goat's blood. I'm eating a goat. What a movie. These are not lines from the movie. These are things that Jordan texted me in the last week. I'm sorry. We have to be honest here. Yeah. Altered States is not a deep cut. I would imagine most people have heard of it or seen it.

53:33But if you if by chance you've never seen it, it's so goddamn good. It's it came out in the 80s, 1980, but it's really an early 70s kind of freak out movie. It's got Bob Balaban in it, too, which is always worthwhile. William Hurt is a PhD in, I don't know, neurology or something. And he's experimenting with weird types of peyote and whatnot and isolation tanks, which I know Joe Rogan is into. You go into a tank and your spirit and your body separate. And so he mixes the two. He crosses the streams. He takes the peyote and goes in the tank and he becomes a wolfman, basically. And I just love and it's Ken Russell directed it and he's at his most in, you know, Ken Russell is a pretty extravagant filmmaker.

54:21And when he's got a budget, he just throws it all up there on the screen. It's it's so good. And it's very it's a New York circa 1979, 1980. It's great. And it's over the top and it's preposterous. And it kind of is a look at psychedelic culture a little bit. It's based on a book that Patty Chayefsky wrote, and I think that book was more about, you know, a true investigation into psychedelic research. And this is more just like, look at the crazy lights, man. But I can't get enough of Alton States. I've seen it many times. You love this movie, too, right? No, I don't. I don't. It's fine, but that's whatever.

54:57You don't like it? Not really. No. Oh, too wacky, too crazy. Yeah, it is what it is. You know, it's fine. Wow. Maybe it's just because, I don't know. I don't know. I think it's really good. I'm an attending physician at the Peter Bent Brigham Hospital, and I'm not going to listen to any more of your bumble-jumbo. I'm on a show-to-show radio. When was the last time you watched it? Not that long ago. I saw it at the Metrograph. Okay. They had a double feature of Ken Russell, and I went and saw it there on 35 and was just like, Whoa, this is so deep, man. and he's turned into a goat. Whoa. But it's so good.

55:40You know, it scratches my psychedelic itch. I mean, you know, I saw Pink Floyd The Wall when I was maybe too young, and I've been chasing that dragon ever since, man. But I respond to this type of filmmaking. You know, I like movies like Mandy and - You willingly go to dozens of fish concerts. Yeah, I go to fish concerts. Yeah, if you go to fish concerts, you're going to like the movie Ultras. If you go to fish concerts, you've already seen Ultras. He says, hell, if you go to V-Ponsors, you've already starred in Altered States. Exactly. Sam, do you like Altered States? Come on. Never seen it. Never seen it.

56:15Poor Sam is now dragged into this. You've never seen it? I'm going to watch it on Tubi tonight. No, don't watch it on Tubi. Should you watch it? My question was, should you watch Altered States if you're taking the medication that they sponsor? Aren't you taking Guardians? Yeah, no. No, don't do that. Could it create an altered state? Is that one of the side effects? I wouldn't do that. Side effects include turning you into a goat. All right. So my recommendation for Tubi, besides Paths of Glory, we already talked about, and I guess Return of the Killer Tomatoes. But one night when I was flipping around on there, I put something else on, and I also fell asleep not watching Paths of Glory, not watching Return of the Killer Tomatoes.

56:57I was watching something that shall go unnamed, and I fell asleep. And when I woke up, Tubi was still playing on my computer. It had auto-played through a bunch of titles. It kind of did a, you know, like related title game of telephone where it took me from one thing to the next to the next. And the thing that it wound up on was the thing I'm going to recommend because it's actually one of my all-time favorite TV shows, The Twilight Zone. The entire Twilight Zone is another show that you can stream in its totality on Tubi. And I'm going to imagine most people know what the Twilight Zone is, but it is, of course, the classic 50s and 60s horror and sci-fi anthology series created by and hosted by Rod Serling.

57:43And, you know, it's been revived many times, but this is the original classic Twilight Zone that is on there. And it looked like the entire show is on there, every episode, if you wanted to do a binge. And, you know, the nice part about an old TV show like this is the ads are not intrusive because they were built with ad breaks. Oh, that's a really good point. That's a really good point. I like that. And when I watched, I watched one episode that I've seen every episode of The Twilight Zone. It is one of my favorite shows. And I rewatched one, and actually one of the ad breaks had no ads. It just went to dark.

58:20It went to black and it came right back up. So, again, that's what I was talking about, about the ads are not. I think I watched I had one ad break in a 28 minute episode. And look, if you're you know, there's so many famous episodes of the show. I don't need to recommend those. I'll throw out one less well-known episode that I like. And that's the one I rewatched just to see. Does it look good on Tubi? Is it you know, did they cut it up or everything look great? The episode I rewatched is called The Silence, episode 25 of season two, written by Rod Serling, directed by Boris Seagal, who went on to make The Omega Man with Charlton Heston.

59:00It's a fun episode because unlike most Twilight Zones where, of course, there is a twist in this episode. There's always, almost always was a twist at the end of every Twilight Zone. But this one is not a supernatural or futuristic or sci-fi episode, basically at all. It is a very sort of mundane by those standards episode. It is set entirely in like this snooty gentleman's club where this guy won't shut up. One of the members is very talkative. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And one of the other members hates him and is sick of listening to him. And so he offers him a bet. If the loudmouth will shut up for one whole year, he will pay him$500 ,000, which that's a lot of money now.

59:44But this is 1961 we're talking about. So it's a lot of money. And so in 28 minutes, you watch the wager develop. You see this guy now to make sure he doesn't cheat. He has to live for a year. And this, to me, seems much harder than keeping quiet. He has to live inside a glass zoo enclosure, basically, inside the gentleman's club, the club, the private club. When you say gentleman's club, you mean like a club for gentlemen, not a strip club. club yeah a club for guys in in like velour uh robes with a big fireplace and yes exactly men with with balding men smoking cigars in front of fireplaces and talking about their stock portfolios right so he has to live inside a zoo enclosure inside the club for a year and it has not one but two very clever twists.

1:00:40And it has, you know, for an old TV show, Twilight Zone, of course, except for a handful of episodes, was shot on film, often by up-and-coming directors who went on to do great things. And it has some really lovely camera work, some wonderful close-ups. There's close-ups of ears twitching as they listen to horrible motor mouth guy talking. There are close-ups on mouths moving. There are interesting angles on notepads. The guy can only communicate by writing on notepads, all that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of great Twilight Zones. That's just one I thought I would throw out that probably the listeners have not seen that I enjoy.

1:01:19But again, you can watch the entire series. It is streaming on Tubi. You will perhaps withstand the pressures for three or four weeks, maybe a couple of months, and then you will succumb. That's, again, your nature. in the meantime i will derive oh several months of exquisite silence i love the twilight zone of course i love the twilight zone i have not seen every episode to it i have not seen the silence i just googled there are 156 episodes of twilight zone and i don't know how many i've seen but i certainly have not seen all 156 a few years ago i went and I think it was streaming on either Netflix or some other service, and I watched every single one.

1:02:06And I actually ranked every single one on Screen Crush. The article is still up on ScreenCrush.com. Oh, wow, 156. Good for you. You can use that as your kind of guide. You know, a lot of the famous ones are at the top of the list. There's a reason that, you know, Time Enough at Last is a famous episode of The Twilight Zone, and To Serve Man is a famous episode. but there are because there's 160 of them they're not all great but there's a lot of really good ones and so even in like the top 50 of that list you're going to find a lot of great tv that you could watch so i just want to let the listeners know that uh it is for free on tubi it is for free on pluto and it might be interesting to see where their ad breaks are different and if they compare if they're advertising different diabetes drugs on that one and i will say it is if you want no ads you can watch all five seasons of the twilight zone on paramount plus paramount plus or paramount plus plus if you pay for basic paramount plus you still get ads so no really yes yes yes oh god so you have to pay for param it's not called paramount plus plus but i think from now on anytime there's a service that has ads and no ads we have to call the no ad version plus plus.

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1:04:21Let's get to our personalized recommendation. Are you ready to? This one, I think, comes from the FilmSpotting Discord, where if you are a member of the FilmSpotting Patreon, you can access this Discord. We have our own channel over there where we're hanging out. We're shooting the breeze. We're talking. I know. I apologize to the listeners. I have never used Discord before. No, it's good. We can make fun of you because you're not in there. We get to make fun of you. I don't when we hang up I'm going to ask Sam to send me the password again because I I haven't I haven't been in there but the listener request comes this week from Thomas quiz master Todd yes and he says that he's looking for a hangout comedy which is great and I'm going yeah quiz master Todd I'm with you a hangout comedy is a great idea but then I gotta I gotta give quiz master Thomas Todd hats off he says I'm looking for a hangout comedy a la happy endings sure and i don't know about you man i don't know about you sam but i go what the hell's happy endings what is he talking about and happy endings is a little remembered 1998 film by don roose uh director of the opposite of sex and bounce which starred lisa kudrow steve coogan bobby cannavale maggie gyllenhaal laura dern and the great tom arnold and i never actually saw happy endings?

1:05:42It sounds good. I'd like to see it. I don't know if I saw it or not. I don't remember. But there it is. I know it. You know why I know it, Jordan? Tell me. It coined, it was the inspiration for the coining of the term Hyperlink Cinema. That was the movie that a film critic for Film Comment, her name, I have it written down, Alyssa Quart, was writing about this movie in Film Comment and coined that term hyperlink cinema which is is is a lot of the examples are not comedies there's and they're not hangout comedies which is sort of the problem i encountered here but uh hyperlink cinema is like a movie about a scene or a time in a place where a bunch of people are like intersecting stories all set around either a place or like an idea like like uh god help us crash the car the car Horrorcrash, racism-solving movie Crash is a hyperlinked cinema film.

1:06:42Syriana is a hyperlinked cinema film. Traffic is a hyperlinked cinema film. Yeah. Is Shortcuts, would that be considered a hyperlink? Yeah, absolutely. Shortcuts, Nashville even. Hyperlink, those are a classic example. But anyway, that's why I know it, is that it is the film that maybe inspired is a bit strong, but it was the moment when that term, which is a useful term, was coined. well by the way fyi sam corrected me it's from 2005 and not 1998 yes 2005 and i love all those actors i haven't seen it but i was just impressed that our listener would be like hey like happy endings like that's a movie that everybody's conversant in you know it's like ah something like raider's lost ark the godfather happy endings like it's just one of those checks out for me so what's your recommendation uh yeah so a hangout comedy i went big i just just said what's the first one that comes to mind the first one that comes to mind is with no and i it's the most hang out of all comedies there's no plot the plot is two guys with no and i is a british film for the late 1980s it stars richard e grant it catapulted him into richard e grant dumb it's the most richard e grant movie ever made he plays with no he's a wacky wannabe actor in 60s britain and somebody else played I, I don't even remember that actor's name, and somebody else played the gay uncle, and the movie is about nothing.

1:08:09It's about two guys who are broke in London, they're out-of-work actors, and they're so broke, they're depressed about their apartment. They say, hey, we want to go for a weekend in the country. Richard E. Grant's uncle has a country house. They say, can we stay there for a while? He says, okay. They go there, there's no heat, the water doesn't work, It's raining. They're kvetching. They stay drunk. Then they go back to London and something happens and the movie ends. And that's it. But it is a cult classic. And for me, anyhow, I'd heard about the movie before I saw it. You got to see With No and I.

1:08:43You got to see With No and I. It's incredible. and I did watch it on VHS I rented it and I will say that I was a little bit unimpressed because I had not been prepared for the fact that there's virtually no story it's all character riffing it's all hanging out with those people and I was like what was this movie and then it lingered and I saw it a second time and I'm like this is a masterpiece same thing for me with Harold and Maude first time I saw Harold and Maude I'm like I don't know what the hell's going on here and then I realized that it was actually quite good so um the the thing about Withnil and I is it's all about Richard E.

1:09:14Grant. It's based on this guy's memoirs. The guy who directed it and wrote it, he originally was an actor in the late 60s. He was in some of the Zeffirelli films, a British actor. And his name, I should probably say his name, Bruce Robinson, I think. If it's not correct, Sam will correct me. And it is Bruce Robinson. Okay. And he kind of never did anything as good. He made another movie with Richard E. Grant called How to Get Ahead in Advertising, which is kind of a sci-fi premise and then he this is it this is his this is this is his the movie from his heart and how do you even get into talking richard e grant is just like drunk all the time and flamboyant and he's a wannabe actor and he everything is oh i mean the most famous line is they go into a little a little tea shop in the middle of rural britain all these old grannies are in there and they're drunk and they're like sir you must leave and he's like we shall stay we demand wine we shall have the finest wines known to humanity we want them here and we want them now we want the finest wines available to humanity we want them here and we want them now miss blenner has it telephone the police there are no real punch lines in the movie but there's like everything is quotable so it's just so funny and there have been times in my life when i've said when i've been in a restaurant and i whipped out we shall have the finest wines available to humanity and people get the joke it's very funny um it is and everyone thinks i'm really funny when i do right everybody loves like i gotta everyone thinks i'm the best he's like richard e grant uh the movie is a classic handmade films production this is george harrison's production company who of course uh george harrison got into the movie business because he liked monty python and monty python was having trouble with their financing and george harrison said i would like to see more Monty Python and I am insanely rich.

1:11:09Here is a check, Monty Python, go make another movie. And then that movie was successful. I think that was Life of Brian. I think it was after Holy Grail. I believe that's correct. Yes. Yeah. So he's like, oh, you're having trouble financing Life of Brian? I want to see it. You guys rule. And then Life of Brian was a financial success. And George Harris was like, film producing, this is easy. So he founded a company and many of his movies were successful and he was involved he wasn't just a silent partner he was involved in time bandits uh he was involved playing the sitar he was playing guitar he he he was involved in the long good friday he handmade films was one of the great independent film production companies out of britain and they made extremely british movies that's what i like they weren't because they didn't have to make a profit so he didn't have to worry about being mainstream he made the movies that he wanted to make.

1:12:01And one of them was this, and it's probably maybe one of the best handmade films in the bunch. So if you haven't seen it, but watch it knowing it is the ultimate hangout movie. There truly is no plot. The plot is they hang out in London, they hang out up in the country in a cottage with no heat, and then they hang out a little bit in London again, and then next thing you know, it's been 98 minutes and it's time to go home. That's it. But it's great. I love it. You love it too, right, Matt Singer? Of course you do. Yes. Yes. More than altered states. Let's put it that way. And do you want me to tell people where it's streaming?

1:12:36Because I'm going to just guess that you don't know. Well, Tubi. No, Tubi. That's the whole point. Is it on Tubi? Pick a Tubi. Okay. I didn't see it. Yes, that's why I picked it. I hope so. Oh, my God. Did I forget to do this wrong? Well, it's also available on the Criterion channel and HBO Max at the moment. So whether Jordan is correct or not, those are alternate options as well. Yeah, I goofed up. We're done with the Tubi chapter. No, it's not on Tubi. I got confused. But it's on HBO Max. It's on Criterion. It is available for streaming. You could also, I mean, it is also, you can get a physical copy.

1:13:09You could rent it. But yeah, if you want to stream it, it's on Criterion right now, and it's on HBO Max. And YouTube television. And of course, as always,$3.99 on Apple and Amazon, blah, blah, blah. Okay. Well, unlike Jordan, I did not goof up. I made sure mine was streaming on Tubi. And I was actually looking to see if I could find like one of these real hyperlink kind of movies. And there were some that one I felt was just too obvious, which was Slacker. Richard Linklater's Slacker definitely qualifies. That is available on Tubi. And then Jim Jarmusch's Coffee and Cigarettes is also on there.

1:13:46That's close. That's really more of an anthology film than a hyperlink film because the stories are not really like crossing over or anything. I don't love that movie. But if that's, you know, again, that's very much a Hangout movie. I mean, that really is very, very close as well. That's also on Tubi. But the movie that I picked, I saw something that it's close enough and it's one of my favorite movies that I love to champion. So I'm going to that's what I'm picking here. It is I think of it as a Hangout movie. It definitely has men and women hanging out, shooting the breeze, drinking, commiserating about their lives, their jobs, about getting older.

1:14:23It is a great comedy. It is a movie I turn to for comfort, comic comfort. The older I get, the more I like it. It is the film Hooper. Wait, wait, wait. I'm trying to guess. I just said it. Oh, man. I would never have guessed this one. This is a good one. No, I didn't think you would. It's Hooper, which is the Burt Reynolds vehicle directed by Hal Needham. This is their follow-up to Smokey and the Bandit, which also had Burt Reynolds and Sally Field, all three of them, re-teamed for Hooper. and Hal Needham and Burt Reynolds had an interesting kind of dynamic as filmmakers. They were friends. Hal Needham was Burt Reynolds' stunt double early in both of their careers.

1:15:07That's how they became friends. And then Hal Needham, as he got older, got into stunt coordinating, got into second unit directing. He wanted to direct movies and Burt becomes a bigger and bigger star and he says, oh, well, let's make a movie. and that's how Smokey and the Bandit happened is that Hal Needham had the idea and Burt said, if you let my buddy Hal direct it, I'll be in it and that's what happened. And the next movie they made after that was a huge hit, they got a bit of a blank check, you might say, to make something else and they made Hooper, which was a much more personal film where Burt basically plays Hal Needham, this kind of aging stunt man and stunt coordinator.

1:15:51he is working on a movie at the time where he's doubling a very famous actor do you jordan do you know the actor who he's doubling oh gosh i haven't seen it in a long time so i don't remember no it is it is adam west playing himself adam west awesome is the movie is the star of the movie bert is his double and it's a big stunt filled movie hollywood movie and while they're working on it this new up-and-coming stuntman appears on the scene played by jan michael vincent and And the movie is them hanging out, getting drunk, riding horses, falling out of buildings. Typical guy stuff, you know. But then the two of them kind of get into like a frenemy rivalry where they each want to prove.

1:16:33Because this is a, you know, it's their stuntmen. They're macho. There's competition. They want to be the best. And so this rivalry starts to build that leads to this epic stunt-filled car chase sequence at the end of the movie. Which, if you haven't seen Hooper, the stunts throughout the movie are great. But the ending is really incredible. And you go, no one should have done this. This looks so dangerous. This was such a bad idea. But they pulled it off and the stunts are spectacular. And you would expect nothing less. It's a movie directed by a stuntman about these guys who were, you know, throughout Hollywood history up until today, basically, are kind of, you know, kept hidden, not valorized.

1:17:17Their sacrifices, their work are not treated well. But thankfully, I think, is it next year or is it the year after we are finally getting an Oscar for best stunt design? So finally, stunt stuntmen and stunt coordinators are going to start to get a little bit of credit and awards recognition, which is great. But this movie is kind of like, you know, like shining a light on this world of stuntmen that was, you know, just it was kind of just pushed to the side and ignored. And it's a funny movie. It's a breezy movie. There isn't a villain. There isn't really a plot beyond we're making a movie and we're hanging out.

1:17:55And Burt Reynolds is great in it. Obviously, he became more of a punchline later in his career. He was, you know, mocked on SNL Celebrity Jeopardy and he made a lot of schlock. He would show up for a paycheck. But he's great in this movie. He is absolutely wonderful. It's really good. And Sally Field is. Sally Field is great. They were a real life couple at the time. They have great chemistry together on screen. And the thing that I really like about it and the reason that I do like it more and more as I get older is Bert was like 42, 43 ish when he made it roughly around my age. I'm now a little older.

1:18:33But part of the movie is about getting older. He is the old guy on the scene now, even though he's only 42. He can't you know, he's got he's got scars and bandages. And there's a back issues. That's yeah. He's worried about his back. And there's a scene early in the movie where he's just looking at himself in the mirror, almost naked. He's got underwear on, I guess, or whatever. And he's looking at himself and he's just so disgusted with himself. And he's Burt Reynolds and he looks great. But, you know, when you're 42, everything looks bad to you. And I really love that about it, that it's a movie about even a big, you know, egomaniacal movie star like Burt could like kind of let himself look a little flabby.

1:19:14and a little old and a little saggy on camera. He wasn't as concerned about being, yeah, there's a self-deprecatingness to the movie that really serves it well. It's, I mean, I would have to really look back at every Burt Reynolds movie, but maybe Deliverance is better, but it's a different kind of movie. I think it's my favorite. It's my favorite Burt Reynolds movie with laughs, for sure. It's better than Cannonball Run. It's better than Smokey and the Bandit. The original Smokey and the Bandit is great, too. That's another movie that I watch a lot. I actually, you know, like, I didn't, I was not a kid who was watching Burt Reynolds movies.

1:19:46He was just a little before my time to be like a kid growing up on those movies. But I, I can also smoking the bandit is a movie. I watch at least once a year that it just kind of chills. It's like a great chill out and fun movie. And this is one of those for me as well. I've watched it a bunch lately and it's like, when I can't think of what to watch, I put on, I put on a little Hooper. So, and it is streaming on Tubi. I don't believe I was going over 55. You were going 55 backwards. Well, that's not against the law, is it? Unsafe backing. Silly law. It's still a law. Let's sum up the Rexeg real quick, because we've got to get to our game.

1:20:24Yes. The Rexegs that are available on Tubi, I picked the Ken Russell psychedelic freakout altered states. Matt Singer picked the entire five seasons of Twilight Zone, specifically watching the episode of The Silence from season two. and then for our hangout comedies I picked the British film Withnil which is spelled with nail like a hammer and nail but it's pronounced Withnil Withnil and I from 87 and Matt Singer picked 1978's Hooper directed by Hal Needham and that's the Rex Egg do you want to say Rex Egg real quick you want to shout it no that's alright I said it I just need to say it once that's okay we don't need to run it into the ground well then I think what we should run into is our game because I'm eager to play Sam's new game.

1:21:10All right, Sam's here for our game segment. I stole his title and I used it in my intro to the episode. I already know it's called To Be or Not To Be, but I have no idea what we're going to be playing. What is To Be or Not To Be, Sam? Well, it was funny. I talked about this briefly before we started recording. I sort of was tinkering with it this morning and tinkering with it while you guys were talking, I have to admit. So let's see how it goes. So 2B or not 2B is the name of the game, but actually it's more like 2B and not 2B. These are films, these are questions about films that are and are not on the streaming service 2B TV.

1:21:51So the catch here that I threw at you before we recorded is we're going to try something with bidding. All of the answers to these questions or these prompts have multiple, you know, four to ten potential answers. I originally was going to say just name two, quickly buzz in name two. We're going to try bidding where you guys will alternate giving a chance to bid how many answers you think you can give. And the other person will have a chance to outbid. And I think how we're going to try it here, we're just trying. We're flying by the seat of our pants here. If you make a bid and you fail to meet that bid, then the other person gets those points that you bid.

1:22:31Just say you're like, I'm going to get four. Right. You only get three. the other person gets those four points. That's just how we're going to try to do it. All right. Okay. All right. And we'll just see how it goes. So I guess we'll jump into that. Are there any questions? Let's just dive in. Oh, no, Jordan has a question. So Matt, you won. A question? Well, I'll figure it out. All right. We can go. Matt, you won the last game. I did. So I'm going to give you the chance to make the first bid here. Oh, okay. But there's a setup. Okay. Question number one. Hopefully this won't take 40 minutes like last week's game.

1:23:03All right, here we go. There are several best picture winners on Tubi. From 1927's Wings, which you mentioned, to 2022's Everything Everywhere All at Once. I think, according to Letterboxd, anyway, the most popular current title on Tubi. Some decades have several best picture winners. Some have none in the 2010s. There are three best picture winners from the 2010s. From the 2000s, zero on Tubi. The 1930s, all 10, all 10 best picture winners. Maybe some of the room in the public domain. I have no idea, but all 10. So for this question, we're going with the best picture winners from the 1960s. Four are to be, meaning six are not to be.

1:23:50So I'm going to name the four that are, and then you're going to bid the six. And you're going to say up to six that you can bid and name. I see. Okay. But I have a very important question. These are the 1960s. So is this 1960 through 69 or 61 through 70? Okay. This is a good question. I believe the films were released in 1960 through 1969. Right. Okay. You understand what I'm saying. This is the 21st century. There is no year zero. I thought about this. I think we got it. Okay. 1960 is the 60s. 1970 is the 70s. I understand. I concur. No, but there's also the Oscar year versus the - Yes, the Oscar year does complicate it as well.

1:24:32But these are released in 60 through 69. Yes. All right. I think I can do well. I think I can do well on this. Okay. Especially if I open - Yeah. I can do well if I open it. I'm actually going to put in the chat the four that are ineligible because these are for 2B. Okay. I'm going to put them in the chat right now so you can see it. Right. So these are the ones that are on 2B. The Apartment, West Side Story, Oliver! and Midnight Cowboy are 2B. So there are six titles that are not to be. I'm going to, if this is allowed, I'm just going to write down so I don't forget. I'm jotting notes down of the ones that I know for sure.

1:25:11Okay. So you want me to bid? You want me to bid? How many can you get of the six? Well, I just very quickly, I could think of two. So I'll bid two. If you can do more than that, Jordan, you go right ahead.

1:25:27I don't know that I can. Okay. Ah, shit. All right. I'll let you do it. All right. Go for you, too. The two that I have are, let's hope I'm right, In the Heat of the Night and Tom Jones. Those are the two that came to mind. Both are Best Picture winners in the 1960s. Two points for Matt. Okay. The others are Lawrence of Arabia. Big, big, big title. Of course. God, yeah. My Fair Lady. Yeah. The Sound of Music. Sure. These are famous movies. Probably the tough one. A Man for All Seasons. Oh, I love that movie. That one best picture? Best picture winner. What did it beat? Because that deserved to win.

1:26:06Okay, I don't have all this information. Now I'm being quizzed. Doesn't matter. Who's asking the questions here? You ask the next question, and I'll look that up, Sam. All right, you do that. Okay, we're on to number two. Okay, so Jordan, you get the first bid. So Matt won two points? Two points. He bid two, he got two. Oh, you've been there. Okay. Okay, Richard Linklater. There are six Richard Linklater films on Tubi. you mentioned that both before sunrise, slacker is on there before sunrise and before sunset. Okay. link later being the prolific filmmaker that he is made five films between 1995 before sunrise and 2004s before sunset, all of which are not to be five.

1:26:50I can do some of these. So how many would you like to bid? Jordan, give me the years again. So it's 1995 is before sunrise. 2004 is before sunset. I can do four of these movies. You go ahead. I can't. I could do a couple. Okay, you ready? Ready. Here we go. Let's see it. Tape. Yes. Waking Life. Correct. Scanner Darkly. Oh, I'm out? Or can I keep going with others? Sure. you need to get four right go for it okay all right um uh the the the newton boys yes yeah we need one more and i need one more richard linklater before 2005 before 2004 before 2004 1995 to 2005 um and after two i can do this before 2004 but not scander He's filibustering.

1:27:49He's filibustering. You got three. Noob Boys. And not, I think, shit. Or I'll try it. School of Rock? Yes. School of Rock. That's the big one. The last one is Suburbia. Wait, one more. Suburbia. Yeah, I would have remembered that one. You got the four. It's four, two. Well done. Okay, good. I don't like that he got to make a mistake and keep going. I think I'm going to have to file a grievance with the union. Well, you're allowed to make a mistake. I think Scanner Darkly came out 2005, maybe 2006. That's like 2006 or 2007. That's definitely, I knew that was outside the range. Here are the movies that A Man for All Seasons beat quickly.

1:28:24Alfie. Deserved to beat it. The Russians are coming. The Russians are coming. Deserved to beat it. The Sand Pebbles. Never saw it. Me neither. And Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf. Ooh. Deserved to beat it. That's the correct winner. I love the three that I'd seen. I never saw Sand Pebbles. The Russians are coming. It was very funny. But A Man for All Seasons rules. What a movie. Okay. I like this bidding. So far, so good. All right. Number three, 90s Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, snap. There are five DiCaprio starring films on 2B, all of them from the 90s. Oh, my God. But Leo somehow appeared in 12 films in the 90s.

1:29:0712. Oh, my gosh. I am, again, going to share the five that are 2B in the chat so you know. Yeah. And that means there are seven more that are not to be. These are the ones I will read them. Critters 3. Yeah. This Boy's Life. Yeah. A little film called Titanic. The Man in the Iron Mask and Woody Allen's Celebrity. All to be. Oh, my God. I'll add the sound effects. I'll add that. You know what? Our second thought, Jack. Let go. let go just let go I'd be diving into that water if I was listening to this goodbye boat goodbye door I don't care if the door can hold us both up I'm out of here celebrity celebrity was a 90s movie oh no it might even be earlier actually I think it's 99 I'm thinking of a different Matt you get the first bid I can, again, I'm betting conservatively.

1:30:16What do I know? I can for sure name, oh, I just thought of a third one, I think. I hope he's in this movie. I'm going to say three. Three? Because I just thought of a third that I think he's in. I'm going to feel real stupid if he's not, but I can think of three. Okay. I can think of three. I can think of three, but that's Matt's bid. I have to outbid him. Can I whip out a fourth Leo movie? Oh, crud. Um, uh, yeah, I could do it. Sure. More. He's doing it. He's just going to keep naming movies now until he gets to that. All right. Go for it. The clock is on. All right. Go. Don't look up. One of these was released.

1:30:54All right. All right. Here we go. Here we go. The Beach. No. No. 2000. 2000. 2000. Oh, that was one of Matt's too. All right. Nevermind. Nevermind. Uh oh. Total Eclipse. Yes. Total Eclipse. Um, uh, uh, The Basketball Diaries. Yes. Yes. Two. the one I just had in my head Romeo plus Juliet yes that's three but I had the beach and that's not it I need another Leo movie oh crud he's a handsome boy he's in all those movies we gotta give him a time limit here this is too long four three I don't have it the name with the iron mask we're out Okay, so I think by the rules I stated at the beginning, Matt gets those four points.

1:31:46Yes. There were two that I thought of that you didn't mention. Okay, go for it. Right. Gilbert Grape. What's he in Gilbert Grape? Yes, his first Oscar nomination. Yes, yes. And then is he in, if he's in this, I think he is. Is he in Marvin's Room? Marvin's Room, that's correct. Yeah, those are the two that I thought of. I think the only two that you didn't mention, the big one that you'll kick yourselves for is Ramey's Quick and the Dead. Oh, of course. Also in, I don't know if anybody remembers him, in Poison Ivy starring Drew Barryman. Well, hats off to Matt for having Marvin's room in his back pocket.

1:32:26Marvin's room. So you earned the points you stole from Jordan. So it's now 6-4. I think 6-4. I never saw Total Eclipse, by the way. Is Total Eclipse any good? I don't even know that one. Oh, Total Eclipse, he plays our French poet, Arthur Rimbaud. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'll have to look this one up. Okay, we're moving on to question four. Oh, shit, I'm down. Master cinematographer Roger Deakins. Love that guy. He's a 16-time Oscar nominee. And there are 16 Deakins shot films on Tubi from 1981's Walcott to 2011's Rango, but nothing after 2011. That was Walcott. Only one of his Oscar-nominated films is Tubi.

1:33:04It's Fargo, which just got a 30th anniversary review last week on FilmSpotting, on the FilmSpotting mothership. Deakins was nominated four more times. Four co-indirected movies. Oh, boy. What are those four? You can bid up to four. I believe it is, yeah, Jordan's turn to bid. The one Oscar-nominated one that's already on Tubi is what? Fargo. So he was Oscar nominated for a total of five Coen's directed movies. One of them is To Be. It is Fargo. There are four more. Oh, boy. What's your bid? I mean, I don't know. Jeez.

1:33:49Two. Two. Two. Yeah. All right. Can I quickly think of a third? Because I can think I know two also. Okay. I know all the movies, but I don't know which for Oscar. Exactly. That's the trick. Right. All right. go for it jordan go ahead go go you can tie it up with the two sure okay he was nominated for the best cinematography for no country for old men correct he was nominated for best cinematography for oh boy here it comes the man who wasn't there yes two points the other one i was going to guess and maybe I guess I should have gone for it was Oh Brother Where Art Thou. That was the other one that I was pretty certain about.

1:34:34And also nominated for True Grit. His last I think collaboration release Oscar nominated collaboration. True Grit. Okay. Okay it's all tied up. I should have guessed. I should have been bold. Okay Matt this is right in your wheelhouse. It's almost unfair. Great. I love a wheelhouse. How many Jimcatas are on? This is Arnold. It's Arnold. Great. Okay. There are ten Schwarzenegger movies on Tubi from 1970s. I think this got referenced maybe. Hercules in New York is on TV. Hercules. To 2019's a movie I'd never heard of, Iron Mask. Bad movie. Bad movie with Jackie Chan. Among them though are Terminator 2, Judgment Day, 1991, and Terminator 3, Rise of the Machines.

1:35:17Not the original Terminator, unfortunately. Talk to the hand. Talk to the hand. So, 1991 to 2003. Schwarzenegger starred in films between those two Terminators. 91 to 2003. Only one of them is to be. It's 2022's Collateral Damage. Not a bad movie. So that means there are eight Schwarzenegger starring films made between 1991 and 2003 that are not to be eight. Matt, what is your bid? Go for eight, Matt. Come on. I... I don't know if I can, off the top of my head, I can come up with eight, but I feel very confident I could at least do six. Wow. Wow. Let's do it. Jordan, you want to try to do more than that?

1:36:09No, I cannot do six. Okay, so this starts in 1991, right? Yes, yes. So I'm just going to type them and I'm going to say them as I type them and think of them. So Batman and Robin. Correct. The Sixth Day. Yes. Junior. Yes. Last Action Hero. Yes, that's four. End of Days. Yes, that's five. We need one more. I need one more. True Lies, that's six. So there's two more. Two more. Eraser. Eraser. Eraser is one. I'm just trying to think of what the other one would be.

1:36:45It's a comedy. It's a comedy. Kindergarten Cup. That's earlier. No, that's 90. That's earlier. Oh, Jingle All The Way. Jingle All The Way. that's my temple man wow it's suddenly 12 6 jordan gee whiz are there any star trek i was gonna say yes how many star trek uh cast members can you name this is where we got into some trouble because my last question is not really a bidding one uh because i came up with this last night before i came up with the bids um i don't even know based on the questions i have left if you could even get close to 12, Jordan, but I'll give you a shot here. All right, I appreciate it.

1:37:27Let's see how this goes. It's okay. Okay, number six, Hans Zimmer. Yeah. Has composed the scores for something like 200 movies. 29 of them. 29 of them are on Tubi, including two consecutive Best Picture winners. Okay, is that clear? 29 are on Tubi, including two consecutive Best Picture winners. I'm just going to... So this question is for you, Jordan. You have a chance to answer it for the two points. That's how I'm going to do this. All right. That's fair. For pride. For pride. For pride. The first. What are. The first. Okay. The first earned Zimmer his first Oscar nomination. I know what it is.

1:38:05Oh, okay. The first. So what I'm asking for, and you'll get two points if you can get this. What are those two consecutive best picture winners? I have one more piece of information, but if you feel like you know it, go ahead. Well, I feel like it's driving Miss Daisy because I know that he did that annoying score. It's like a very non-Hans Zimmer score, and it doesn't have like thundering drums. Yeah, it's not that. So Driving Miss Daisy is a Best Picture winner. Yes. So the question is, what won Best Picture either before or after Driving Miss Daisy? That he did the score for, correct. Yeah.

1:38:42I will tell you that he earned his first Oscar nomination for one of them, and he lost that Oscar to Dave Grusin for his score for the Milagro Beanfield War. Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh, okay. I think I know the answer. Okay. Driving Miss Daisy was 87. Milagro Beanfield War, I believe, was 86. Hence, the Oscar winner for 86 was Out of Africa. ah you're you're a little off on your days are off driving miss daisy is 90 89 89 okay i knew he was too early maybe the awards were for 1990 oh so i got it wrong what's the answer or matt can you steal i know i don't i don't i i'm not a han zimmer so interestingly han zimmer was not nominated for driving miss daisy oh so you were totally wrong but he was but but well but he did nominated for the previous year's best picture, the 1988, or the film that came out in 1988, which is?

1:39:47Is 88 Rain Man? Rain Man. Wow. Rain Man. So we all learned something about Hans Zimmer here. So what a surprise that all of us who know so many unimportant facts at our fingertips know something about Rain Man.

1:40:06There you go. Well done. I think that's the game. I've got one more. you guys already kind of covered it that was Cooper related it wasn't I think we got it I think I'm the winner you're the winner Jordan's on a losing streak I've lost too can I just say Out of Africa which is a movie that I really should rewatch because I haven't seen it in a hundred years it did win the best original score for who wrote the best original score for Out of Africa you tell us oh you tell us It's John Barry. I was going to guess Barry. Yeah, yeah. And I would like to say that Out of Africa, a movie I haven't seen in 25 years, and a movie that probably will put me to sleep, although I should see it again, has the best original score of all time.

1:40:53Wow. Like, if you were going to rank the best original scores, nothing is as sweeping and majestic and lush. And Sam, if I were editing this week's Film Spotting S to you, I would play us out with a little bit of the Out of Africa score. and then when we come back for the end, everybody will be weeping into their hankies because the music is so compelling. Well, I know that I had the audio tape of Barry's score for Dances with Wolves, which is also very good. Very good. The John Dunbar theme is almost as good as the Out of Africa theme. It really is beautiful.

1:41:32Well, folks, we did it. This is the longest episode yet, but I'm having fun. and I lost the game. So it's 10 to four. I'm still, I've still got some wiggle room, but I'm on a losing streak. I've lost two in a row, but now's the time on the show when we let listeners know what's coming new to streaming. And first up, these are theatrical releases that are newly available to rent or buy. So they're not, you know, you got to pay extra. It's sometimes like$14.99, something like that. But new is this movie called The Breadwinner by Nate Bargazzi. I don't know if that's how he pronounces his name. Barketsi, Barketsi.

1:42:09And this is supposed to be one of the worst movies of the year. People hate this movie. Our friend, Matt Singer, our friend Bilge Ibirre, the other day was just ranting and raving about how terrible this movie is. I'm almost curious to see it. Did you see The Breadwinner? I didn't, but you're right. We were having conversations about the worst movies of the year so far, and this was one that was thrown out there. And I was going, oh, I got to watch The Breadwinner. Yeah, but I'm not going to spend$14.99. I'm going to wait a few more weeks until I can spend$0.00. Now, other stuff that's coming, theatrical releases coming to streaming, and this is not for rent or buy, is God Is, which is supposed to be very, very good.

1:42:47Yes, I've heard the opposite thing about this movie, which is that it's quite interesting. Yes, it's directed and written by a woman by the name of Alicia Harris. It's based on her own play, and it stars Carrie Young, Sterling K. Brown, and Janelle Monae. And it is on everybody's favorite streaming service, MGM Plus, which, you know, more and more is actually becoming a viable service. I haven't really explored it yet. But everything on MGM Plus eventually comes to Prime, Amazon Prime, because Amazon owns MGM. That's right. So if you don't have MGM Plus yet, you can give it a few more weeks. It'll wind up on Prime Video.

1:43:21That's Is God Is. And then another one, which I hear is pretty good, called Mile End Kicks. That's right. Which makes me think of the song Pumped Up Kicks, a little ditty from the early 2000s. It's directed by a woman named Chandler Levesque, who did Roommates earlier this year, which we discussed on SVU. I didn't love it that much, but I hear this one is better. A 22-year-old music critic moves to Montreal to write a book about Alanis Morissette's jagged little pill. But her plans are complicated when she becomes romantically involved with two members of an indie band. And it's on Netflix. That sounds charming.

1:43:58Yes. So that's on Netflix now, Mile End Cakes. It did very well at festivals. And now we, the non-festival going public, can ascertain for ourselves if it's any good. Matt, do you want to tell the listeners what else is coming direct to streaming? Sure. Starting on Friday the 17th, we have They Fight, starring Andre Holland and Wendell Pierce. They're training D.C. youth for a high-stakes boxing tournament that will be available on Hulu. And then we also have Heartstopper Forever, an extension of the Netflix high school set Heartstopper series about two teenage boys whose friendship turns into a romance.

1:44:38So this is like the Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan's Ghost War of teen boy romances, I guess. It is the film continuation, perhaps the conclusion. I don't know. And that is also on Netflix. Now, we've been hearing feedback from listeners that they want to know what we're reviewing in advance so they can watch it before the conversation. That's very understandable. So we mentioned this title, I think, last week, and we're etching it into stone now. Next week on the show, we are going to discuss on Hulu a service. I don't think we've done a review of a main title on that service yet. Wasn't the Allison Janney movie?

1:45:22Wasn't that on Hulu? No, that was HBO Max. That was HBO Max. You're right. This is Hulu. It's Redux Redux. It is a sci-fi film. A woman traveling through parallel universes, killing her daughter's murderer again and again. Great premise. And it's like a family project directed by brothers and starring, is it their sister who stars in it? Yeah. So we love that hook and it sounds intriguing. That's going to be the subject of next week's Film Spotting SVU Redux Redux on Hulu. Awesome. I'm looking forward to it. I'm going to will myself to like that movie. I know it's going to be good. So I want to thank the listeners for listening and the listeners who wrote feedback.

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