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In short

The FilmSpotting Archive episode is a “Top 5 Terrence Malick scenes” list, revisiting favorites from 2016 and re-evaluating them for a Friday rewatch discussion. Hosts Adam and Josh argue Malick’s best moments are “purposeful” variations on recurring visual techniques, often tied to childhood, nature, and moral/epiphanic shifts.

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Notable examples

Badlands—Terrence Malick’s uncredited caller role; the forest “treehouse” hideout; The Tree of Life—“dinner table fight,” “innocence” creation/birth montage, dinosaur mercy moment, and the brothers’ BB-gun/shooting scene; To the Wonder—Marina running as tide pursues at Mont Saint-Michel; The New World—John Smith’s return to Jamestown and David Thewlis’s takeover; Days of Heaven—locust plague and apocalyptic “let it burn” fire.

Key claims

Malick’s scenes reveal fallible fathers, origins of mercy/sin, and how small violence escalates into apocalypse.

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Top Five Terrence Malick Scenes Introduction

3:22 to 4:48

The hosts discuss their favorite Malick scenes, contextualizing their selections and revisiting a previous list.

“Yes, I say our favorite film because we both separately on our list had it as the number one film of that year.”

Discussion of Badlands Scene

4:48 to 6:53

Adam and Josh analyze a poignant scene from Badlands involving Kit and Holly's moment of respite.

“The thing about him, he's down with the flu.”

The Tree of Life Dinner Table Scene

6:53 to 12:47

The hosts discuss a powerful family dinner scene from The Tree of Life, exploring its emotional depth.

“And what I tried to do then is find the moments I remembered from his films that used those techniques and either perfected them or rose above them as familiar images and really used them for something purposeful.”

To the Wonder Scene Exploration

12:47 to 14:01

Adam details a memorable scene from To the Wonder, reflecting on its visual beauty and thematic elements.

“in To the Wonder as well, because this is a very different approach to a family argument scene.”

Exploring Malick's Visual Storytelling

14:01 to 17:06

Discussion on the visual sequences and storytelling techniques in Malick's films.

“And it's an image that certainly stood out to me in To the Wonder, where you almost wonder if Malick knew it and completely anticipated it and picked that scene for a reason.”

Theological Questions in The Tree of Life

17:07 to 18:58

Analysis of the themes of mercy and sin as depicted in The Tree of Life.

“It was the film that gave me hope that he was still, while in this abstract fantasy world, he was still tethered to the natural world and tethered to reality as well and tethered to a good, compelling narrative.”

The Apocalypse of Days of Heaven

20:49 to 24:40

Discussion about the locust plague scene and its implications in Days of Heaven.

“Output is for informational purposes only and is not an investment recommendation or advice.”

Childhood Innocence in The Tree of Life

24:40 to 28:00

Exploration of the themes of innocence and familial relationships in The Tree of Life.

“The tractor in the scene becomes this demon beast.”

Exploring Childhood Innocence and Morality

28:00 to 29:50

Discussion on a pivotal scene in The Tree of Life that reflects childhood moral dilemmas.

“It's following the older brother's bike as it glides into the tall grass.”

The Treehouse Hideout Scene in Badlands

29:50 to 33:20

Analysis of the treehouse scene in Badlands, focusing on themes of freedom and innocence.

“I can't help but feature that treehouse hideout in Badlands as my number one.”
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Honorable Mentions and Reflection on Malick's Work

33:20 to 35:10

The hosts share honorable mentions from Malick's films and reflect on their impact.

“Those are our top five Terrence Malick scenes.”
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3:01Josh Larsen:What kind of a show are you guys putting on here today? You're not interested in art? No. Now look, we're going to do this thing. We're going to have a conversation.

3:10Adam Kempenaar:Hey, FilmSpotters, Adam and Josh here. It's Wednesday, it's archive drop time, and we're looking ahead to our Friday show when we're going to be revisiting our favorite film of 2011. Yes, I say our favorite film because we both separately on our list had it as the number one film of that year. Terrence Malick's not so inscrutable. Maybe not to you, Josh, because you've seen it 27 times in the past few years. I can't wait to hear your revelations about The Tree of Life. But we're going to share with you our top five Terrence Malick scenes. And this is a top five list that we did. Wow. I'm trying to get a handle on when we did this one.

3:55Adam Kempenaar:My version history tells me that I put this top five list together back in March of 2016, a full 10 years since we did this list.

4:05Josh Larsen:You're putting a lot of pressure on me to bring to this conversation we're going to do shortly here. at them. But yeah, to, to justify, to give reason for why we are actually doing this re-review, I believe we both glanced at our lists. We both have two scenes from the tree of life among our top five Malick scenes, uh, from, you know, one of the directors who's probably considered one of the more iconic visual stylist image givers, directorial image givers we've had. So that really says something about the level of filmmaking going on in the tree of life, which we'll get to for now, though, from 2016.

4:45Josh Larsen:Enjoy our top five Malick scenes. Hi. Hi.

4:50Adam Kempenaar:Mr.

4:51Josh Larsen:Scarborough here?

4:52Adam Kempenaar:Yeah. The thing about him, he's down with the flu. He's sick.

4:58Josh Larsen:Really? Yeah.

5:00Adam Kempenaar:I'd invite you inside, except it's contagious. Don't want to start an epidemic.

5:04Josh Larsen:No, of course not. It's only he called last night and asked if I'd come by. Well, he didn't have it last night.

5:12Adam Kempenaar:You're listening to Film Spotting with Adam and Josh. That's Martin Sheen as Kit with none other than Terrence Malick himself appearing in an uncredited role in his debut film, Badlands. He's playing the caller at the rich man's house. Very eerie, bizarre sequence in that movie. He must have really not liked that performance because he disappeared. He never did it again. Right. Right. He showed up in that movie. Maybe an extra didn't make it that day or someone they'd cast and he decided to step in. But it's true. We never see him again. Act on screen. Seemed appropriate, though, to launch into our top five this week.

5:46Adam Kempenaar:Terrence Malick scenes inspired by our discussion earlier in the show of his latest film, his sixth to the wonder. And I don't know, Josh, I guess if you're not a Terrence Malick fan or if you're not someone at least interested in him and curious about his work, the show isn't giving you a whole lot. Yeah, probably. It's been a lot of Terrence Malick talk and we're going to continue that. Hopefully we will find a way to hold your interest. It's also probably going to be a little bit difficult because as we talk about scenes and this being radio, you can't see why we love these scenes so much. And the visual aesthetic is so integral to what Terrence Malick does and what makes these scenes in his film so special.

6:21Adam Kempenaar:I'm not sure the dialogue or some of the sounds we're going to include are really going to sell it, but we will try to do our best. And Josh, how did you form your list? What's your number five?

6:29Josh Larsen:I'm going to have to start with something of a confession. I didn't go back and rewatch in their entirety any of his films for this, but I did dabble into a couple of them. And it wasn't as rich of a supply as I had thought when we first thought about doing this list. I think that speaks a little bit to my ambivalence with Malick. I adored some of his films. One, I mentioned The New World to have some problems with and the others I appreciate. But I think it also speaks to the fact that, as we alluded to in our To the Wonder review, he does have the stock collection of images and techniques. So things are often repeated.

6:59Josh Larsen:And what I tried to do then is find the moments I remembered from his films that used those techniques and either perfected them or rose above them as familiar images and really used them for something purposeful. So one that stood out right away, though, this was an easy choice, is my number five, was when they make a home in the forest in Badlands. It is this moment of respite in the film where Holly and Kit have found a place to be together, to be childlike almost. It is a false sense of security they have, and we're aware of that throughout these scenes, which make them a little bit poignant.

7:34Josh Larsen:But I do really appreciate this sequence.

7:37Adam Kempenaar:We hid out in the wilderness down by a river in a grove of cottonwoods. It'd be in the flood season, we built our house in the trees with tamarisk walls and willows laid side by side to make a floor.

7:49Josh Larsen:There wasn't a plant in the forest that didn't come in handy. The fact that it's a fantasy they're trying to create, they're playing house really is what they're doing. It emphasizes their youth. And I think that's something that can get lost in any of these young criminals on the lam stories. We very quickly start to see them as movie characters or adults because of how they're behaving. But one thing we tend to forget is that they're often just kids. I mean, Sissy Spacek for sure is. And this sequence reminds us of that. There's also some wonderfully dreamy music here that stands apart, I think, from the heavy classical music that we now associate with Malick, at least.

8:28Josh Larsen:It's something that's much more playful called Gassenhauer. And it has this tinkling quality, which recalls a little bit the creek that runs by the area where they're at. So I do like that touch very much. Watching clips of this again, it made me think that there's almost something Wes Anderson-ish to this sequence and how they're creating this world. Maybe that's why I respond to it.

8:47Adam Kempenaar:Maybe a little bit like Susie and Sam. Making their treehouse, yeah. Moonrise Kingdom. I think that is an apt comparison, and that is a standout sequence from that film. Great pick. I think I approached this list pretty much the same way you did, Josh, with the help of some of our listeners via Twitter and Facebook and via email. I was able to put together for me kind of the greatest hits of Terrence Malick's scenes, what are commonly thought of as his most famous sequences. And then there's sort of that just initial smell test of, yes, but do I really remember that? Do I remember it vividly without even having to go back and watch it?

9:20Adam Kempenaar:Just reading a couple phrases, do I know exactly what that is? And does it connect me to the film as a whole and to his work as a whole? That's kind of where I started. And then what I did after I whiled it down to eight to ten of those, I did go back through all of his movies and didn't get to watch them in their entirety, certainly. But I was able to fast forward around and find these different scenes and see which ones had the biggest impact on me. And for my number five, I'm going with a scene from The Tree of Life that I'm going to call simply the dinner table fight. It's a sequence in the film, maybe about halfway through, where they're sitting down to a family meal, the O 'Briens, the three boys, the father played by Brad Pitt, the wife, Jessica Chastain.

9:57Adam Kempenaar:And the father is just kind of haranguing the kids in this very disciplinarian kind of way. He is being a little bit obnoxious and really coming down on them. and you see the personalities of the kids so distinctly in the scene. And Malick doesn't overly draw your attention to it, but you can't help but notice the oldest son, who is our entree into this story, just sitting there next to him, kind of withdrawn, taking it all in, observing. The youngest boy across the table, instantly the rebellious one, sort of scowling at his father. And the third is outside the frame completely. We don't really ever see him, which makes sense because he's kind of separate from this flashback.

10:31Adam Kempenaar:He's kind of a non-entity in this flashback, in this particular moment. But the youngest son, he's getting kind of berated by his dad, and he just takes it in stride. But then when the dad turns his anger and frustration onto Jack, the oldest one.

10:45Josh Larsen:Did you actually buy this from Mr. Ledbetter? Don't explain, just nod, yes or no.

10:57Josh Larsen:Be quiet.

10:58Adam Kempenaar:He tells his father to be quiet. And there's that pause where you know all hell is about to break loose. How does that kid have the temerity to stand up to his father and say that and not only just disobey him, but openly disrespect him? And you know that's not going to fly in this house. And I love that sequence so much because what you recognize there is that the father is fallible. The father isn't this heroic figure. And these kids are coming to terms with that. They're having this sort of epiphany at about this age where they realize that we can think and act for ourselves. We may be under his rule inside this home, but that doesn't mean we can't act independently and we have to accept all of this.

11:39Adam Kempenaar:And there are two touches that heighten it with the camera. The camera throughout Tree of Life is that graceful, seeking, searching, yearning camera. In this scene, when the father steps up from the table and gets ready to go at the younger son, the camera gets up with him and is actually shaky, which you don't see much from Malick, but it heightens the tension there in the sequence. And then I noticed something I'd never paid attention to before until I saw it again last night. The whole sequence starts with the oldest son, Jack, playing with his father's record player, the phonograph, playing the classical music that his father is sort of a failed musician.

12:12Adam Kempenaar:That's always what he wanted to do. He's warping the sound on the phonograph. And then they sit down and have this awkward, terrible family encounter at the meal. and as soon as the father steps up and the camera goes into that shaky mode, Jack actually hits the needle on the phonograph. He stops the music in that sequence. Really interesting touch there by Terrence Malick to break us out of that calm and the serenity that should be happening in this family meal. So that's one that when I saw The Tree of Life, there are many sequences that stand out in that film. We might just get to another one or two, but that one for me was always a big one.

12:46Josh Larsen:So that helps me understand what you were looking for in To the Wonder as well, because this is a very different approach to a family argument scene. Yep. In To the Wonder, it's so oblique. We just get the aftermath. Pretty much. We only get the physical confrontation part. Very different approaches there. All right, number four comes from To the Wonder. It's early on with Olga Kirilenko as Marina running from the tide. We mentioned how the opening section of this film really catalogs Marina and Neil's romantic travels across France. One place they go is this unique title island of Mont Saint-Michel.

13:18Josh Larsen:The tide is out, so they're walking along the wet sand, and Marina is doing her usual twirling in the sand. The sander is really fascinating. It has these dimples. I'm not quite sure what they're from, but as far as you can see, there are these dimples. And Malik's camera follows the incoming tide as it sort of rolls in and out of each one. For some reason, this terrain gives the water an extra vitality in these sequences. It's almost as if it's this living being that's pursuing Marina. It's coming towards them, yeah. It's coming towards them and really in pursuit. Now, in my reading, this could stand for Marina trying to stay ahead of the boredom and the familiarity that she fears is going to intrude upon her relationship with Neil.

13:58Josh Larsen:But otherwise, you could just get lost in the beauty.

14:00Adam Kempenaar:You could. That's a great pick. And it's an image that certainly stood out to me in To the Wonder, where you almost wonder if Malick knew it and completely anticipated it and picked that scene for a reason. Or was it a discovery there on set and on location? Did they go there to capture that? or did they find it there? Yeah, he certainly has an eye. That's the thing about Malick, right? Is you can watch so many sequences and you get the sense, you get it in the Badlands sequence you talked about with the treehouse. You wonder if there are just moments that the camera captures that maybe were unplanned, but then they fit in to this larger scheme so well.

14:34Adam Kempenaar:That is a really good pick. My number four comes from the film I definitely think you need to go back and give another look at, and that is The New World. And there are a few different ones I considered. And certainly I went right away to the sequences that I remember vividly, which are the ones where John Smith is falling in love with Pocahontas. And he's been captured by them, and we see him in the water and in the forest and really just coming to appreciate their way of life and falling in love with her. But it's the sequence after that that really stands out to me because he's been in this paradise.

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15:07Adam Kempenaar:He's been learning their ways, their language, learning to appreciate their world. And, of course, it being a Malick film, it's largely all told to us in voiceover, and he says that these people don't have words for lying, deceit, greed. They've never been heard. They don't have jealousy or a sense of possession. He could stay there forever with her, and if he could, he would, but of course they're happy to unload him back on his own people. He gets expelled, if you will, from this Eden that he's been living in. That's a theme that's going to come up again and again. And when he goes back to his world, it's that return to Jamestown that is my focus.

15:41Adam Kempenaar:The way Terrence Malick captures the shock of what he returns to, coming from what he just was a part of, what he just experienced. The gate opens and it's a single tracking shot that follows behind him. And we see, without seeing his face, we get just from the way the camera is slowly following him and taking in the world as he's seeing it in front of him. We recognize this settlement that he's returning to is not the settlement he left. It is not doing well. These are horrible living conditions. Things like lying and deceit and greed are clearly rampant. They're even worse. So are death, disease and starvation.

16:15Adam Kempenaar:And then that sequence culminates with a showdown with David Thewlis, who has made himself the president of this community in his absence. And you just get the sense watching it that John Smith is mostly in shock the whole time at what he's been forced to return to. He didn't want to go. Now he can't fathom staying. And we don't blame him.

16:34Josh Larsen:Yeah, I want to give the new world another shot, because especially as you talk about moments like that, I do remember some of the elegance that is brought to even moments of almost terror. Yeah. Like you're talking about there. I guess my thing, it's interesting because the way you responded to To the Wonder, especially in calling some of the scenes something like a J.Crew photo spread. That was my response to the new world. And I've seen other people say To the Wonder is almost self-parody. Malick has finally reached self-parody. And that's exactly what I felt about the new world is that this was a parody of what a Malick film could be.

17:06Adam Kempenaar:That's so weird because for me, the new world coming off the thin red line was the film that put me back onto Malick. It was the film that gave me hope that he was still, while in this abstract fantasy world, he was still tethered to the natural world and tethered to reality as well and tethered to a good, compelling narrative. And it brought me back to Days of Heaven and Badlands.

17:26Josh Larsen:Maybe there's only so much Malick you can take and you just have to be purged of it at one point. I don't know. My number three comes from, yep, the tree of life we'll talk about again. It's Dino Mercy. you could choose the whole creation sequence my next band name you like that go ahead you can use it i i didn't want to i didn't feel like that was fair to pick all of the creation sequence even though you easily could so i'm going to focus on this little bit and it's coming somewhat towards the end where a dinosaur is walking along a riverbed i'm not sure what kind of dinosaur so i'm not even going to try to misname it and he comes across another dinosaur injured different type of dinosaur laying there in the riverbed all of a sudden this mesmerizing mini drama unfolds.

18:06Josh Larsen:The larger dinosaur, the one standing, stomps on the head of the one on the ground, holds there for a minute, then lifts its claw, puts the claw back down, lifts it again, and then I love this touch, gives it one light little tap before going off and letting the other dinosaur live. And one of the deep theological questions that this movie explores is the origin of sin and the origin of mercy. So where do such things come from? Why are they both in us? This is the question that the older son is always asking himself. There's this new book out by Franz DeWalt. It's called The Bonobo and the Atheist.

18:38Josh Larsen:And it's all about this question of the moral impulse, especially as it exists in animals. I haven't read it myself, but the parts I've looked at are really fascinating, especially in how they reflect what's going on in this scene between two dinosaurs. It's just this bizarre, perplexing touch in the middle of a very bizarre and perplexing movie that I love. Amazon Health AI presents Painful Thoughts.

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21:29Adam Kempenaar:It seems obvious, but it's obvious for a very good reason. And I'm going with the locust, the scene that happens near the end of Days of Heaven, the locust plague. It's almost like a horror film, the way Malik captures it. It's very subtle. It's got a very minor beginning where you see a locust appear on a head of lettuce. And then you see a locust in a wash basin. but then each frame more appear. It makes me think of the birds a little bit in Hitchcock, right, and how they appear. Until you get to the end of this entire sequence, the wheat fields are ablaze and it's chaos everywhere. But that beginning, seeing those locusts go from that small beginning into the plague that they become, mixed with the beautiful cinematography by Nestor Almendros, the editing, the music by Morricone, of all people, they all combine to heighten that mood and the sense of something unnatural taking place.

22:19Adam Kempenaar:Despite how natural it is, this is something that farmers can't experience. But when you talk about a plague of locusts, you're getting biblical. You're getting almost supernatural. And that makes me think of how it reflects on the story at that point in Days of Heaven, where you've got a couple who have been pretending to be brother and sister as a way to try to steal money from this farmer that they're working for. And this sham is coming to an end. And I think that locust plague not only helps exacerbate that, It makes it literally come to a showdown between the farmer played by Sam Shepard and Richard Gere's character.

22:53Adam Kempenaar:But it also metaphorically gives you the sense that this unnatural scheme is going to come to an end and there are going to have to be consequences for it. I will say about the fire, too, a little bit that it takes me back to Badlands and a scene I did consider, which is where they kill the father. He's already killed Holly's father, put him in the house and then tries to destroy the evidence or whatever. And he sets the house ablaze. and Malick in that scene, the way he shoots that house, he really lingers. We don't need to see that house. We could see the spark start and go on to the next scene, but he really lingers on showing that house go ablaze for many minutes.

23:25Adam Kempenaar:And I always kind of saw that as a metaphor for the entire film Badlands, where something seemingly small, something that just seems to affect two or three people becomes something that gets way out of control very fast. That's what we see with the fire. That's what we see with the characters in the film Badlands. And I think we see it as well reflected in the way this locust plague just gets completely out of hand in Days of Heaven.

23:48Josh Larsen:That's my number two. Actually, I'm going to focus a little bit more on the fire part of that sequence in Days of Heaven. And the fact that it gets out of control, it almost seems like they've started it to burn the carcasses of the locust. Right. And then it starts to get out of control just at the moment that Shepard comes after gear and challenges him. And I love the line he uses there, let it burn. Previously, Shepard's Farmer has been pretty much this gentle figure, you get the feeling. And here he just goes nuts. And I think for all the biblical illusions and imagery in Malik's work, this is really the only moment where he's gotten apocalyptic.

24:23Josh Larsen:Even something like the thin red line, the warfare there, it's constantly held in parallel with the natural beauty. Here it's just apocalyptic as the fire burns. We go from the human faces of the workers to these ghoulish silhouettes. Suddenly we're further back. We don't see their faces anymore. They're almost as if they're dancing in front of the fire is what it looks like. The tractor in the scene becomes this demon beast. So this really stands out among all the other moments in Malik's films for me.

24:50Adam Kempenaar:I did find a bit of an interview with the cinematographer Nestor Almendras online, and he talked about how they achieved the effect of the locusts. He says that for our foreground, we use live locusts supplied to us by the Canadian Department of Agriculture. But for the wide panoramic silhouetted tractors and blackened workers, we used a technique used in the good earth, running the camera in reverse and dropping peanut shells from helicopters. when the film was projected forward the locusts would appear to be flying up of course this meant everything had to act or perform in reverse specifically the actors and the tractors that could explain some of the weirdness yeah definitely well for my number two i'm going back to the tree of life maybe not surprisingly a film i love as much as i did i'm going to find two really stand out memorable sequences from it and this one i'm simply calling innocence because that's what the chapter is called on the dvd we've just gotten through the beginning of the universe creation of all life as we know it.

25:42Adam Kempenaar:And Malick then takes us to the creation of this universe, the main character's life, his birth. That's how the sequence starts. It's as breathtaking a montage I think you'll find anywhere. It's what really solidified The Tree of Life for me as the number one film of 2011. Some of those images that recur throughout it, the tiny foot, I think it's on the DVD cover actually, that image of Brad Pitt as the father holding that tiny foot in his hand. The baptism, the boy crawling under the table after the ball, walking in the yard, learning to read. We get these great POV shots looking up at the mom, looking up at the dad, running through the house, running through the yard, and it all culminates with a shot of the new brother in the crib and him going over to that creature.

26:24Adam Kempenaar:You see where I'm heading with this, Josh? Beholding him, almost like that dinosaur we saw not too many minutes before, going over and having to take that in, this new life, and deciding how he's going to engage with that life. That whole film was about that relationship with the brother, really, when it comes right down to it. So I think there's a clear juxtaposition there. But you get, in those sequences I described, in those images I described, the whole of young childhood in its entirety. Raising a kid, your first kid, there is an innocence. I think all parents out there will recognize this.

26:54Adam Kempenaar:There is an innocence and something unique, clearly, and special about that first child that you simply can't have with subsequent kids. And those moments are almost like you're in a paradise. They are their own kind of Eden. Everything is new. Everything is perfect as you discover the world together. And at this point, going back to my number five scene, these kids can't disobey their God, the father, the father who created them. There's no reason to. Everything is just that perfect moment, the creation of life, and them existing in this beautiful world together, this harmony together. In nature, in this case, it's their yard and their house.

27:30Josh Larsen:It kind of makes you want to give up on recording any video of your children whatsoever after you've seen the Tree of Life. because you're just like, I'm not going to be able to even come close to this. So why bother? I'm going to stick with the tree of life for my number one. I could have honestly probably have done all five from the tree of life. So it had to be my number one. And it's the brothers with the BB gun. This is when the two older brothers head out on their bikes into the woods. And speaking of tracking shots, as we did recently rewatching this, I had forgotten what a beautiful moving camera there is in this scene.

28:02Josh Larsen:It's following the older brother's bike as it glides into the tall grass. And you know, as you do to be cool at that age, you just hop off your bike while it's moving. Right. And the bike keeps going into the grass. And then without cutting, the camera catches the second brother following, doing the same thing. He jumps off his bike and just follows them running along into the woods. Really lovely. So once they're there, they do some shooting at squirrels and fish. And then we get the moment in which the older brother, played by Hunter McCracken, dares the younger brother to put his finger over the end of the gun.

28:31Josh Larsen:Put your finger over. Look at that. Come on. After a terrible, terrible pause, sure enough, he shoots him. Malick doesn't linger on this action. He sort of glides away and then comes back to McCracken's face. How good is McCracken in this movie? I feel like when we talked about this film the year it came out, I know we mentioned him and probably here and there, But we didn't go on like I did, particularly for someone like a child actor like Quavanjane Wallace in Beasts of the Southern Wild last year. I think he's equally good in The Tree of Life. And he gets a voiceover shortly after this scene where he says, crucial line for the movie, what I want to do, I can't do.

29:15Josh Larsen:I do what I hate. Keep in mind that this scene follows these two brothers where they're also doing that lamp dare. The older brother has the unplugged lamp that he's daring the younger to stick a piece of wire in the socket. So it parallels with that. What this moment did, and a lot of the movie did, is bring back those memories of childhood where you first start realizing that you're navigating moral waters and for some reason, inexplicably, you make the wrong decision. You do the wrong thing.

29:41Adam Kempenaar:Wow. I had completely forgotten about that sequence and I didn't come across it last night in my scanning, but you're right. It's a great one. My number one, we might as well end where we began with a little bit of overlap. I can't help but feature that treehouse hideout in Badlands as my number one. It is that moment. they've only hurt her father at this point. And the fact is, you could argue, I'm being, of course, very general when I say this, he kind of deserved it. He doesn't seem like a good guy, right? He didn't deserve what he got. But at this point, they haven't hurt any truly innocent people.

30:12Adam Kempenaar:They haven't gone on their killing spree. You're right, the music is so wonderful, not just the non-diegetic music, but the diegetic music in the form of Love is Strange. There's a point where they dance. This is their moment of freedom. This is them playing house, as you put it, out in this fantasy world. And, of course, I'll go back to this idea of it being Eden. And they're making use of their surroundings. She talks about in the voiceover the plants and the trees and the water. And we see the fish and how they're surviving on that. They're at one with nature. And at this point in the film, they're at one with each other, more or less.

30:44Adam Kempenaar:And that's one of the things I love is the matter-of-fact narration we get from Sissy Spacek as Holly.

30:48Josh Larsen:We had our bad moments, like any couple. Kid accused me of only being along for the ride.

30:54Adam Kempenaar:while at times I wish he'd fall in the river and drown so I could watch. Just so I could watch him drown. That's what she says, but just says it so matter-of-factly like she's talking about her favorite Elvis Presley record. It's so great. A couple other things I noticed re-watching this scene last night. The sense of violence that we get throughout this film. You have to go back and consider this is 1971, the height of the Vietnam War. And throughout the movie, there aren't explicit connections that I recall made to Vietnam, But you do wonder if Malick is trying to say something about our association with violence and how you can start to see violence on TV and the bodies pile up and see it as abstract and see it as something that you can't really relate to.

31:34Adam Kempenaar:And you wonder if there is a connection he's trying to make there. This is that most explicit moment where when you see Martin Sheen, of all people, the guy who's going to be Willard in Apocalypse Now, running around with his shirt off with a gun, looking like he is trying to attack someone in the jungle. You can't help but there in that scene. Think of Vietnam. Now, the thing I do really love about this sequence, though, Josh, the thing that makes it a truly special moment in this film, though, is just like in the Garden of Eden, this is Holly's bite-the-apple moment. This is when she finally becomes self-aware in this film and becomes aware of what they're about to embark on.

32:10Josh Larsen:One day, while taking a look at some vistas in Dad's stereopticon, it hit me that I was just this little girl born in Texas whose father was a sign painter who had only just so many years to live. It sent a chill down my spine and I thought, where would I be this very moment if Kit had never met me or killed anybody? This very moment.

32:38Adam Kempenaar:And she starts to see herself in the larger context of history. And she realizes that she's a part of this history and she's also part of the future. and that she's going to have a future that exists well beyond Kit, that this is just an episode for her and something she's doing right now, but she knows she's going to go on to something else.

32:57Josh Larsen:For days afterwards, I lived in dread. Sometimes I wished I could fall asleep and be taken off to some magical land, but this never happened.

33:07Adam Kempenaar:And that's that moment of knowledge when nothing can ever be the same between them again, and it never is.

33:12Josh Larsen:Yeah, she's playing at innocence as much as she's playing at making a home or this new life. So sure. Yeah, really is a fascinating scene. Those are our top five Terrence Malick scenes. What about honorable mentions, Josh? The one I considered a separate scene almost the dancing at the end of the making a home in the forest sequence. I almost consider that separate. Yeah, the love is strange. Yeah, I really like that little moment. Also, just a shot. This is almost just a shot from the Tree of Life. The kids' shadows while they're playing in the street. That one sticks with me. And you mentioned the house on fire in Badlands.

33:42Josh Larsen:That was an honorable mention as well.

33:43Adam Kempenaar:Yeah, such a good moment. I had an honorable mention from Badlands as well. It's the ending of the film and the way the law enforcement people regard Kit and how Kit is just taking all of this in and gives them his comb. We talked about celebrity, Max Ophels and Lowell Montez. As you think about how they are just fascinated by this character who exists outside their realm of rules and does whatever he wants to do. And they want every piece of them they can get. I love that sequence. I mentioned the falling in love montages in the new world. I also love just the beginning, the ships arriving, the natives in their natural environment, and then these boats, these invaders coming towards them.

34:20Adam Kempenaar:And as if we haven't talked about the Tree of Life enough, the he's gone sequence, the phone call that they get early in the film. these parents. Now we've transported more to the present day, speaking of Vietnam, and they get a letter in the mail about their son. And Jessica Chastain reads the letter, and then she calls Brad Pitt. He's at work, and he's at an airfield, and he can't really hear her. It's all communicated visually, really, because we can't hear what they're saying to each other, and she's reading a letter. And I'll be honest with you, I watched that again last night at about two in the morning, and it wrecked me.

34:54Adam Kempenaar:Yeah, I believe it. It wrecked me. It just destroyed me watching that scene again.

34:57Josh Larsen:I remember watching the first time and it's so oblique again to use that word as a lot to the wonder is that it took me a while to realize what they were communicating but again you knew at heart it was something terrible. Unless you love

35:12Adam Kempenaar:your life will flash by

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