The Hidden Biochemistry Behind Anxiety & Brain Fog | Eva Hooft

2 Jul 2026 · 1 h 9 min · 23 chapters

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In short

The “hidden biochemistry” behind anxiety and brain fog, framed as chronic toxic overload plus stress-driven impairment of natural detoxification (liver, gut, nervous system). The episode critiques Instagram “detox” marketing (juice cleanses/detox kits) and argues for supporting the body’s detox pathways, including autophagy, only when the person is nourished and resilient.

Guest

Eva Hooft. She presents as a health/wellness expert who works with clients on detoxification, mineral status, nervous system regulation, liver congestion, and “drainage pathways.” She cites mentors/researchers including Clark Engelberg, Dr. Paul Eck, and Dr. Wilson.

Key claims

Chronic fight-or-flight slows detox; toxins can be stored (fat/soft tissue/nervous system), contributing to symptoms like fatigue, bloating, and brain fog. Autophagy is helpful but fasting can be stressful and nutrient-depleting, worsening issues in depleted people. “Terrain” (internal conditions) determines whether parasites/pathogens cause disease.

Notable examples

Heavy metals from tap water/air/car exhaust and foods (cacao, rice, conventional chicken/peanut butter/seed oils). Parasites as opportunistic overgrowth (mold/candida) when stomach acid, bile, microbiome, oxygenation, and minerals are off. Cholesterol as potentially protective (hormone production/bile), driven by liver congestion and toxicity; detox and mineral balancing can lower cholesterol. Cancer stories are cited (tumor shrinkage after detoxification clinic; tumor markers improving after a short gut detox).

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Chapters

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Understanding Detoxification

0:45 to 1:42

Discussion on the natural detoxification process and its importance today.

“this is going to be a very selfish episode because I'm like armchair amateur, all the stuff that you talk about, I'm like so interested in.”

The Modern Toxic Load

1:42 to 4:48

Exploration of how modern life contributes to increased toxicity in our bodies.

“And then I want to kind of bring us down to the ground and get a little nitty gritty as we go through our conversation.”

Detox vs. Marketing Scams

4:48 to 5:50

Differentiating between effective detox methods and misleading marketing claims.

“And we try to look for external circumstances that caused our bloating, our fatigue, our brain fog, you know, our lack of energy.”

The Role of Autophagy

5:50 to 8:34

Examining autophagy as a detoxification process and its nuances.

“do is just to turn on your body's natural detoxification process again or to kind of upregulate that in a way that's supportive and that honors the body's natural time.”

Finding Balance in Detoxing

8:34 to 12:40

Discussing the importance of nourishment and balance in detoxification routines.

“Like you can't just get your body into autophagy and fast all the time.”

Identifying Toxins and Parasites

12:40 to 14:01

Overview of various toxins and the role of parasites in health.

“Cause I think, you know, as, as someone who, like I said, I probably live in the not non-expert, but like amateur, you know, weekend health guy, you know what I mean?”

Understanding Toxins: Sources and Effects

14:01 to 17:59

Learn about the various toxins in our environment, especially heavy metals, and their health implications.

“you know, getting Lysol in your, you know, some, some like chemical in your system.”

Perfumes and Microplastics: Hidden Dangers

18:00 to 20:10

Discover how common products like perfumes and clothing can introduce harmful substances into our bodies.

“just like soaps that you use or things like that have unnatural perfumes.”

Parasites: Misunderstood Organisms

20:11 to 27:18

Explore the role of parasites in the body and how they relate to toxins, health, and immune function.

“Because I read that the issue with some parasites is not that the parasites in your body, it's that it releases toxins into the body and it's the toxins.”

Symptoms of Toxic Overload

27:19 to 28:00

Identify symptoms that may indicate toxin overload in the body and understand their systemic connections.

“I want to put a pin in mental versus physical for a second, because the last kind of, we'll say, 30 ,000 foot topic that I want to discuss before we start to work our way down is, like, what are the symptoms?”
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Understanding Symptoms of Toxic Overload

28:00 to 29:59

Explore how various symptoms may indicate a body's struggle with toxins.

“that's not a knock on anyone listening this you know I just get that everyone can't research everything all the time.”

Detoxification and Its Efficacy

30:00 to 33:58

Learn about the role of detoxification in addressing serious health issues.

“And I like to say we don't discriminate.”

The Harsh Reality of Cancer Treatments

33:59 to 35:41

Discuss the potential drawbacks of traditional cancer treatments like chemotherapy.

“you know, how efficient like detoxification can be in the phase of these things.”

Cholesterol Misconceptions

35:42 to 38:58

Delve into the myths surrounding cholesterol levels and their implications.

“And I agree with you that I think a lot of it is it's it's your body's way of dealing with stuff that shouldn't be there.”

The Role of Detoxification and Peptides

38:59 to 42:00

Discuss detoxification and how peptides may fit into overall health management.

“And how do we do it without taking Lipitor?”

Exploring Peptides and Their Impact on Health

42:00 to 44:40

Learn about the role of peptides and caution in health trends.

“I would say is like one of the main things and tools here that we use to essentially support people in that process.”

GLP-1 and Personal Experiences with ADHD

44:40 to 47:20

Hear personal insights on using GLP-1 to manage ADHD and weight.

“Yeah, no, I think that's wonderful advice.”

Holistic Health and Lifestyle Changes

47:20 to 50:00

Understanding the importance of holistic approaches to health.

“I had a buddy who was slightly overweight, who was like, thought it was going to be this miracle.”

Identifying Inner Blocks to Healthy Living

50:00 to 55:40

Discover the emotional factors affecting health choices.

“Like, how do you start to wrap your head around this?”

Understanding the State of Well-being in Society

55:40 to 56:00

Discussing how many individuals have lost connection with feeling good.

“And over time, the healthier that we get, the better the choices are that we make.”

Understanding the Connection Between Physical and Mental Health

56:00 to 1:00:12

Explore the relationship between physical health, mental health, and the impact of mineral imbalances.

“Like not wake up tired, not wake up with brain fog, not look down and see, you know, body in places that they don't necessarily want to see.”

The Role of Minerals in Mental Health

1:00:12 to 1:04:38

Learn how mineral balances, particularly copper and mercury, influence mental disorders.

“Yeah, this is such a, like you said, like people don't discuss this topic enough, right?”

Gut Health and Its Impact on Mental State

1:04:38 to 1:08:18

Discover the gut-brain connection and how gut health influences mental well-being.

“But even if we think about the gut and the brain connection, right, there's an awesome book that I read like 10 years ago, I think it was, I think it's literally called The Gut-Brain Connection.”
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0:00If you've been on Instagram for more than 30 seconds, you've been pitched some form of a detox. The process of detoxification is something that the body does naturally. As a society, we're just more toxic than we've ever been. It's just like a marketing scam or a marketing term just to sell you products. Just because it feels good doesn't mean it's actually supporting you. They're literally everywhere, right? Like tap water has heavy metals. Like if we walk outside and we're breathing air, we're breathing in aluminum. I was seeing things that weren't there. Literally, it can change our perception and the brain chemistry.

0:29Our bodies actually naturally have defense mechanisms to make sure that these parasites don't overgrow.

0:42Eva, thank you so much for taking some time with us today. I'm really excited to chat. Likewise. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, so I'm going to be very honest. this is going to be a very selfish episode because I'm like armchair amateur, all the stuff that you talk about, I'm like so interested in. So, but, but with no background. So that's why I love the podcast because I get to bring on amazing experts like yourself. And then I get to pepper you with questions for a while and, uh, and learn a bunch of really cool stuff. So I want to start with the idea of a detox. If you've been on Instagram for more than 30 seconds, you've been pitched some form of a detox in some form of ad in your stories or wherever.

1:28Maybe just break down for the audience at a high level. What is a detox? Why do we need these things in our lives today? Like, maybe just let's start really high level on this idea of detoxing. And then I want to kind of bring us down to the ground and get a little nitty gritty as we go through our conversation. Yeah, that sounds great. So I think it's important to understand first and foremost that the process of detoxification is something that the body does naturally, right? Like, it's essentially like, in the simplest way to put it, you know, we're coming into contact with things that are, you know, not supportive to our bodies, whether we talk about, you know, like, actual toxins in the form of like heavy metals or microplastics or, you know, other things.

2:10But sometimes it's even toxins that our body or like organisms in our bodies produces itself or even just toxins that our body produces as the, you know, a byproduct of some sort of process internally. And so typically, like, let's say we look at like 100 ,000 years ago, you know, our toxic load in our day to day life was a lot lower than it is today. So, for example, you know, we have a lot more toxins in our external environment, but also one massive toxin that I think people don't really understand is like the amount of stress that we have in our day-to-day life, right? So, stress in general is going to have massive impact on the entire body, including that natural detoxification process.

2:51And so, over time, due to all these like inner and external factors, the natural process of detoxification tends to slow down. And so what I kind of look at with detoxification is essentially just as simple as, you know, we're packaging harmful substances into less harmful ones and then hopefully excreting them out of the body. Right. So that's as easy as we can make it. Now, what happens is that if we are in a chronic state of fight or flight, which, you know, many of us wake up, we check our email first thing in the morning. Maybe like we're eating foods that are not good for us. where we're having this idea that we always need to work or perform or whatever the external stress is, that natural process actually slows down and a lot of those toxins end up backing up.

3:34And so, you know, by the time that we're 20, 30, 40 years old, chances are that we've probably been in a state of chronic fight or flight for at least a couple of the years, you know, that we are on this planet with like the high stress load these days and also the additional toxic burden that we phase now versus like 100 years ago. And so those combinations essentially kind of lead to the body being in a place where it can't really deal with all the toxic load and the stress on the liver. Now, you know, there's so many things that give stress on the liver, right? We haven't even talked about like medications and alcohol and things that, you know, we normalize these days, like even, you know, things like taking painkillers quite frequently, like all of these things add additional stress to the liver.

4:16And at some point, the liver is like, all right, I can't deal with all this toxic load, right? So then the body has to package these toxins and store them for, you know, potentially a later time where the body does have time and energy to start to kind of move these toxins out of the body. And a lot of these toxins, depending on if they are fat soluble or water soluble, they can be stored in fat tissue or even sometimes in our organs, our soft tissues, our nervous system. And especially this is true with heavy metals. So over time, you know, we start noticing symptoms maybe 20, 30 years down the line.

4:50And we try to look for external circumstances that caused our bloating, our fatigue, our brain fog, you know, our lack of energy. Whereas the way that I look at it, we're just dealing with toxic overload from 20, 30 years, sometimes even pre-birth, because we also inherit a lot of toxins in utero. And so it kind of just leads down to this whole epidemic, I would say, of like toxicity that kind of stacks up generation after generation. And that's why I think today, you know, we're facing so many people on Instagram saying like, you need to detox, we need to have these types of detoxes because it's true, like as a society, we're just more toxic than we've ever been, you know, like I said, like 10, 20, 30 years ago.

5:35and I will just add like a little thing here I'm sure we'll go into this later as well like not everything that people call detoxing like doing a juice cleanse or you know buying a detox kit is actually detoxing your body quite often it's just like a marketing scam or a marketing term just to sell you products because the way that I look at detoxification the best thing that we can do is just to turn on your body's natural detoxification process again or to kind of upregulate that in a way that's supportive and that honors the body's natural time. And so that's really where that differentiation comes in versus, you know, doing something that's supportive for your body versus just something that's like a marketing scam that you spend a couple hundred dollars on that isn't actually going to do anything.

6:15So I'm going to butcher this word, but would like autophagy, autophagy. Yeah. Could you say it again? Autophagy. Autophagy. I always butcher that word. So this would be like, that's one of the natural processes of removing. I know that has something to do with removing cells, but it also like it finds the cells that are kind of that have toxins in them and prioritizes that. And like, this is one of those natural processes that we have in our body. Yes and no. So autophagy, right, is well-researched in terms of like longevity, cancer research, stuff like that. So it's essentially what you're saying, like the body's natural way of cleaning up like dead cells and cells that are you know no longer need it really however in that process right what tends up happening sometimes if we are fasting a lot for example because that's how we induce autophagy mostly is through fasting or or things that kind of get us out of the the digestive mode however oftentimes when we do that process when we're already depleted we might actually make our issues worse so i think like autophagy and fasting and like doing those like very, in a way, like depleting things on the body can be extremely helpful in the right set and setting.

7:33So it kind of depends on, you know, the individual, like what their mineral status is. It depends on how their nervous system's optimizing because like the process of fasting itself is actually very stressful in the body, right? And we talk always about like hermetic stress, like good stress and bad stress. And, you know, I personally believe that we need a good balance of both because we need to, you know, increase our window of tolerance when it comes to stress. However, if someone's already pushed over their edge, any stress, even it could be labeled good or bad, is going to be bad stress to that person.

8:04Right. So I like to say, like, when it comes to detoxing, like actually like the process of like neutralizing harmful substances, packaging them, like excreting them, that actually needs a lot of cofactors in order to properly work. So it needs certain amino acids, you know, certain vitamins. And so oftentimes when we're in a fasted state, we actually lack a lot of those nutrients. So yes, in a way it could be that you're, you know, removing harmful substances from the body one way or another, but you have to have both. Like you can't just get your body into autophagy and fast all the time. Like it's not going to allow your body to release like heavy metals that are in the brain and the nervous system because we actually need adequate nutrients in order to release those.

8:46That makes sense. So basically that is one tool of several and kind of cleaning your body and cleaning your body out. And just to kind of reiterate what you said for myself, when we're fasting and if we're doing maybe longer fasts than say a standard 13 or 16, when we're getting into say a 24 or 36 or longer, if we have excess toxins in our body in that case because we could actually, you're saying we cause more harm because now there isn't the, we're not replenishing behind it, right? Is that what it is? Now all of a sudden like those, they have more opportunity. Is that like a period of time where you might feel worse and then you get better?

9:29Or is it like, should we deal with an overload of external toxins in our body first before we start looking at things like longer fasts or whatever for longevity purposes? Is that, like, is there a routine to it, a process to it, or is it you can kind of do everything at the same time? Yeah, there's definitely a process to it. Like when, and I always tell this to my clients because I have so many clients who are already in like the health and wellness space. They're like on a ton of supplements. They've tried a lot of things, right? And they're still like, well, I still don't feel great. Like how come?

10:00Like I've done all the protocols, I've done the fasting, right? And so oftentimes I tell them, like we have these things, like even Asana, a sauna can be super beneficial to one and harmful to another and so we have to understand like where our bodies are at like how are our drainage pathways which you can talk about in a moment like are they open is there congestion because if we have kind of like a an issue with like one of the processes in the body we can do something that's really helpful for someone else and it can actually poison us right so I look at fasting almost the same way like if someone is extremely robust their nervous system is regulated.

10:37Like if someone, for example, has been on like a standard American diet, right? Like they eat like all these seed oils, like they're super inflamed, but they've had, you know, like a calorie surplus for many years. They have excess weight, like all of that stuff, like maybe potentially, like if that person doesn't have a lot of stress in their life and they have pretty good mineral levels, like them going into a fast is going to like decrease inflammation, probably reduce a ton of their symptoms, right? So like we're talking about person A, but the issue is that most people who come to me, like they already are like super healthy on the outside, right?

11:10Like they're working out, they're like, they're probably like high achievers, like they're, they're doing so much in their life already that actually is adding more stress than someone who's just like on the couch all day and watching TV, like quite, quite frankly. And so oftentimes these people that have done a lot of things that have done a lot of diets that are very selective with their food because of like, whether it's like emotional stress, nervous system stuff from like the past or even just current circumstances, these people tend to come into my programs quite depleted already. So if they start fasting, right?

11:41Yes, they might feel that initial like benefit of mental clarity because, you know, the gut isn't, especially like if the gut has some imbalances, like if you don't eat food, of course, you're going to feel better because those bacteria don't start releasing these toxins, right? So you might assume you're getting better because your inflammation is lower and you might feel more mental clarity and less fatigue. However, just because it feels good doesn't mean it's actually supporting you, right? Like it's the same thing with certain substances. Like you can have a glass of wine, it feels really good, but is it actually supporting you?

12:11So I kind of look at what is this person's body saying on all levels and what do they actually need? And quite often with most people, they actually need more nourishment, less stress, more rest, like more time in nature, you know, like working on their circadian rhythm, optimizing their nutrition. And oftentimes that's the thing that actually really gives the body enough energy to start healing those like chronic symptoms, even though, you know, we're meant to believe like, oh, just fast and all your problems will go away. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was like, I can't remember. Maybe it was late 20 teens.

12:47I remember fast. I mean, not that fasting is a new concept in any regard but like really kind of roared back into popularity and everyone was fasting and you know the rocks on instagram talking about his daily 16 hour fast everyone wants to look like the rock so now we all got a fast 16 hours and um so before we go too much deeper into specific topics i'd love for you to just maybe label or discuss like what are actual toxins? Like what, like, is it? Cause I think, you know, as, as someone who, like I said, I probably live in the not non-expert, but like amateur, you know, weekend health guy, you know what I mean?

13:28Like I'm super into it, but not, not enough to ever give anybody advice. And then, you know, I have a lot, but I have a lot of friends who don't take care of themselves super well. Maybe used to be athletes, you know, but all of a sudden you get, you know, I don't know how old you are. I get to your late thirties or late mid forties and life gets super hectic. You know, I'd hate to show you what my kid's sports schedule looks like and how much free time I have to work on myself. So look, what are actual toxins? Like I know when those guys, when you're just thinking like heavy metals or some like, you know, getting Lysol in your, you know, some, some like chemical in your system.

14:04But I know that those aren't the only ones. And then, could you also maybe talk a little bit about where like, parasites and how they're different? Because I see a lot of stuff about parasites these days, too. And then, you know, we can get down into some more tactical things to do after that. But what are these actual toxins and parasites that we're trying to remove? Yeah. So, right, like a toxin is really anything that doesn't really serve a purpose in the body and has some sort of influence on how the body functions, right? So, I mean, there's so many toxins, like way too many to name, but I will just kind of start with like the categories that people probably recognize the most, right?

14:41Like heavy metals being one of them. And of course, like people think that like we get heavy metals from like very specific things like, you know, the mercury fillings or things like that. But I think what people don't realize is that they're literally everywhere, right? Like tap water has heavy metals. Like if we walk outside and we're breathing air, we're breathing in aluminum, right? Like they're everywhere. They're in car exhaust, they're in plane exhaust, like they're in basically like tons of things, like smoking cigarettes. If you've ever smoked cigarettes, you're going to have like a quite high capmium burden.

15:12Same with like weed. Weed is really high in like certain pesticides that have heavy metals. So any foods that contain certain pesticides, quite often there's heavy metals in fertilized, certain fertilizers as well. There might be heavy metals in the soil, which is why some plants, even organic ones, will have higher amounts of heavy metals. So cacao is actually a really common one. So how many people eat chocolate or cacao, you know, like maybe have like a protein powder with cacao in them, almost always does it contain some levels of like cadmium and lead. Same with, you know, crops like rice.

15:43Rice is another really common one to contain higher levels of arsenic, conventional chicken, conventional peanut butter, even certain seed oils are cut. I think it's nickel. Don't quote me on that. But like they're just like in the industrial process and they're kind of everywhere and they just like end up in our foods. And so, you know, we might think that we're eating healthy because we're eating whole foods or whatever. and maybe have some like fancy protein powder and green smoothie powder. And little that we know, you know, we're consistently poisoning ourselves with these heavy metals. And so this is why I'm obviously really glad that more and more people are talking about it.

16:17And, you know, companies are being more transparent about like their third-party testing and heavy metal testing. But yeah, heavy metals, I would say, is like up there amongst like the ones that are like most dangerous to our health. And this is particularly because they don't just like pass through the body, right? Like the body doesn't just like naturally eliminate them quite often, but it actually retains them, especially in the phase of mineral deficiency. So these heavy metals essentially hijack the same mineral uptake patterns or pathways. And so let's say that we are deficient in zinc and the body now starts to kind of upregulate the uptake of zinc.

16:54but certain heavy metals that through a process called ionic mimicry kind of mimic zinc, for example, at like the atomic or yeah, like the level. And so then it absorbs more of that heavy metal and now retains that. And so the issue is that like in the phase of these mineral deficiencies, the body will actually use the heavy metal to function like at a lesser function than, of course, when it has the mineral, but better than when it has nothing. And so this is also why it's so dangerous when people start to suddenly chelate or actually pull aggressively like these heavy metals out of the body because if the body is still deficient, A, it's not going to want to let go of this metal.

17:32So you kind of get all those like really intense symptoms. And B, you might be potentially like making your issues worse by pulling a metal out that your body is actively using. So there's a lot of information there. Like one of my mentors, Clark Engelberg, breaks this down super well. and same does like Dr. Paul Eck and Dr. Wilson's research has a ton of information there as well. So I would say heavy metals are the ones that we need to be, you know, quite cautious of. But then we also have things like perfume, you know, how many products that you put on your skin or even just like soaps that you use or things like that have unnatural perfumes.

18:08I think anything that's labeled as perfume can have up to 3 ,000 undisclosed chemicals in it. Like it doesn't need to say that. So there's no regulation around what is in perfume. A lot of that is endocrine disrupting. It actually like has a ton of effects on the bottom or on the body, especially if you spray perfume, you know, right on your thyroid or on your skin, which is a big organ of absorption. And then, of course, we have things like, you know, even microplastics, PFAS, BPA. So how many of us are, you know, wearing our Lululemons and our Aloe Yoga, you know, sports gear where every time that we wash that, it releases microplastics.

18:46Every time that we sweat, we absorb those microplastics into our skin. And then, of course, you know, when you're cooking in the kitchen, you know, like the Teflon pans, like maybe you're cooking on like aluminum baking sheets or aluminum foil. You might be using, you know, plastic Tupperware. So it's kind of like it's everywhere and you have to put a lot of time and effort in to avoid it. but the way that I look at it is like rather than becoming a maniac about avoiding every single you know microplastic and every single metal and every single like toxin out there if we have resilience and if we are in a state that we are like fully nourished and we have good mineral reserves we're actually absorbing a lot less of these toxins and our detox pathways are going to work better.

19:32So you like remineralizing your body, you regulating your nervous system, you working on yourself is directly going to have an impact on how many toxins you absorb. So like one person that might not be, you know, doing mineral balancing or eating good foods, you know, especially if you're fasting all the time, you're actually absorbing more toxins in a depleted state. So like, you know, people think they're doing all the right things, but they're absorbing more versus someone who is actually like eating really good quality foods all the time, like, you know, eating high nutrient dense foods and stuff like that.

20:05So that's what I would say I look at toxins at. Okay, there's a lot of scary stuff in there. Now, how are parasites different? Because I read that the issue with some parasites is not that the parasites in your body, it's that it releases toxins into the body and it's the toxins. So what is, what is, maybe what are parasites and why, why do you see people talking about, you know, like if you have a cat, you, there's like a 90 % chance you have this parasite. And if you have, you know, animals and, you know, and should we be cognizant of parasites? Do they fall in the same type of vein of, of negative impact as toxins in our body?

20:52Are they two separate things? Completely separate. So this is actually where I think a lot, there's a lot of misconception in this space. There's really two schools of thought here, right? So I'm not sure if you're familiar with like the term terrain theory and germ theory, but essentially like our entire Western medicine system is built on the idea of germ theory. So it's essentially says that like a parasite, a bacteria or some sort of external factor is the cause of disease, right? So if someone gets like COVID virus, they all have the same symptoms and illnesses. Or if someone gets exposed to this parasite, it has to be the cause of XYZ disease.

21:29And so there's another school of thought that actually was basically it started up right around the same time of the germ theory. There's a lot of good research around this. I would highly recommend people to look into this. And it essentially says that it's not the external thing that's causing the disease or the symptom, but it's the internal. So let's say like the host's conditions of how their body essentially is functioning at the time, whether or not disease is expressed. So, for example, right, two people can walk into a moldy apartment. One person immediately gets a headache. They get, you know, crazy neurological symptoms and the other person doesn't notice a thing, right?

22:07One person might be exposed to a virus or to a bacteria and one person gets sick and the other one doesn't. So this kind of explains how we can't say with certainty that one organism causes one type of disease. And so we start looking at, OK, well, how come person A and person B respond differently? And that's oftentimes everything that's going on inside the body. So again, comes down to the nervous system, right? Like, how is their nervous system functioning? What's their mineral status? Like, how are their detoxification organs or digestive organs, like, how are they working and functioning?

22:44And so the way that I look at parasites, a little, you know, side rant here to kind of get to the point. So parasites essentially in the same way that when we look at a forest and we like take a scoop of the soil, there's going to be a million microorganisms in the soil. Right. And so the health of the soil determines which types of organisms are there. And so the same thing happens with our microbiome or with our body, for example. Right. So there are certain species that, well, all bacteria are opportunistic, but especially pathogenic organisms are opportunistic. So whenever the body needs them to essentially overgrow or start to take up more space because something's happening in the body, they will.

23:28So there's a ton of research, and I would, again, recommend people to look into this for themselves, that, for example, mold can bioremediate certain metals or toxins. Same thing with candida. So how this shows up in the human body is if we have an excess amount of toxins, if we have a very low oxygen environment, whether it's because, you know, we have like dysfunctional breathing patterns, we have, again, like nervous system issues, like our bodies can't actually uptake and transport oxygen efficiently, like whatever the reasons are, if we have a low oxygen environment, an environment where there's a lot of excess waste because the digestive system isn't functioning optimally, there are going to need to be certain organisms that actually help offset that toxicity, right?

24:15Like they have to kind of digest what our bodies can't digest for us. And so that's how I look at parasites. They actually serve a purpose in our bodies by consuming a lot of the excess waste and heavy metals the same way that you might see parasites on like a decaying animal, or you might see mold on a fruit that's decaying, right? It's actually just helping down and breaking down essentially dead and toxic tissue or dead and toxic cells and waste. And so when we start to attack parasites directly, we're actually not dealing with the reason why they're there. And this is so often why you see, you know, a lot of these people on Instagram promoting, oh, do this parasite cleanse two or three times a year because they're going to come back, right?

24:58Because you're not actually dealing with the reason why someone has parasites. And I would go as far as to say that like every single organism that's on this planet will probably has a parasite. Like if you're living and breathing and you're like walking around in nature, you're eating vegetables, like you're 100 % going to have parasites. But our bodies actually naturally have defense mechanisms to make sure that these parasites don't overgrow. Like our stomach acid is the first thing, right? If it's acidic enough, whatever like bacteria or parasites we encounter, parasite eggs, it will actually neutralize or kill them.

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25:31However, if we are chronically stressed, if we're mineral depleted, if we have a congested liver, our stomach acid also goes down. And so now we don't have that first line of defense, right? We don't have enough bile, like our microbiome is all out of whack. And so when we have certain imbalances, these opportunistic organisms can overgrow, take up more space, and essentially, yes, start to release endotoxins because they also release toxins. So it's kind of this like vicious cycle because now they're releasing more toxins. We get even more depleted. We get even more dysregulated. And of course, you know, they end up overgrowing.

26:06So the way in my experience and my opinion that we break that cycle and we actually naturally start releasing parasites is not by starting to fear them and starting to say, oh, we can't have pets and we, you know, we can't drink water. We have to like, you know, wash our vegetables and kill all the parasites with ozone. Like, great. If you can do that, awesome. But like, it's not going to happen all the time, right? You're going to be at a restaurant, you don't know what they're washing their vegetables with. And so the best first line of defense, again, is to regulate the nervous system to make sure you're getting enough minerals to restore that natural function so that the immune system actually kicks into gear, and it can deal with the toxic overload.

26:44And so this is one of the reasons why, you know, I have clients sometimes do emotional release practices, which is a whole other topic, but like, essentially them releasing stored emotions from the body, or they're starting to work on learning to set boundaries, and they will start releasing parasites in the process of that. Because, you know, the stored emotion or the lack of boundaries and the people-pleasing was a thing that actually kept their nervous system in a chronic state of fight or flight. So when they start to release that and work through that, right, the body has more vital energy to start to deal with some of these parasitic infections and whatnot.

27:18So yeah, it's quite a fascinating topic. Yes, it is. I want to put a pin in mental versus physical for a second, because the last kind of, we'll say, 30 ,000 foot topic that I want to discuss before we start to work our way down is, like, what are the symptoms? if someone's listening to this is it facial bloating red face is it constipation is it brain fog is it all of these things like if I'm sitting here and I just feel off maybe I just this is the first time I've ever really listened at any extended amount about the even the concept of detoxing which I wouldn't put past people and that's not a knock on anyone listening this you know I just get that everyone can't research everything all the time.

28:08So if they're sitting there and they feel off, they know they're not right, but they don't really know and they haven't looked. What are some of those symptoms that if someone came to you, you'd say, hey, you may have an issue here with toxins. This may be something, you know, you're overloaded in one way or the other. What does that look like for people? So believe it or not, it's like every single symptom you can imagine has some sort of connection to this. And the reason is that when one thing is off, the entire system is off, right? So if you look at blood markers, for example, the body likes to keep blood markers extremely tight.

28:44So by the time that you go to your doctor or, you know, wherever you get your labs done, function, health or whatever, and some markers are off, it's not just because like, oh, I have low iron, I need to take an iron supplement, right? Like if we look at things like 100 years ago, do you think our ancestors were taking like a bunch of supplements and pills? Like, no there's actually something that's up in the entire iron transport or regulation system because other things are off and so everything that we're talking about like and I'm sure there's like one or two things that I'm not thinking of that might not be connected to this you know but typically if one thing's off in the blood or in the body or you're noticing brain fog fatigue whatever the thing is like something in the system is off that we can start to work on when we're looking at this like root cause way of healing.

29:34And so I don't even really love the term detoxification because it's so overused. You know, people think that like, if we're starting a program together, they're going to be on some sort of cleanse. Well, for me, it's actually the opposite. Like I actually get people off of those cleanses and into actual systems that kind of optimize the body, which for some people might just be like, you know, regulating their nervous system and like eating more good food like that in turn can literally change someone's entire path. So, yeah, if someone's listening and like, I'll just kind of run through some like really common symptoms that we get because I was just doing a masterclass and we had like a sheet with some of the symptoms people come to us with.

30:11And I like to say we don't discriminate. You know, we have people in our, like actually a lot of people in our programs with tons of different autoimmune conditions, like even to like certain cancer diagnoses, which I personally believe cancer is 100%, you know, connected to the body being too toxic and wanting to store certain toxins into, you know, tissues or kind of same thing with autoimmune conditions. I don't believe that the body will try to kill itself. You know, again, like there's a lot of like mineral imbalances, toxicity involved in these conditions typically. But yeah, like I would say like from anything from like bloating, digestive issues, constipation, Crohn's disease, defarticulitis, like anything gut related.

30:53You know, high cholesterol typically I see is really connected to liver congestion and excess amount of toxicity as well. So when we start to clear that up, cholesterol goes down. However, in general, cholesterol is a whole conversation in and of itself because we are 100 % lied to when it comes to what good cholesterol actually means. I want to come back to that topic. I definitely want to come back to that for sure. Yeah. So, you know, there's a lot of these types of things that like we go to our doctors or whatever and we get like one or two markers that are off, like I mentioned, right? Like low iron, low ferritin.

31:25Like I used to have chronically low ferritin. it was like like three six nine for like six years straight i would do everything right like take iron supplements eat more red meat cook out of cast iron pans and until i started regulating my minerals i started detoxing aluminum and actually optimize my copper because i had a lot of like dysfunction like copper dysfunction like i had a copper iud i had hormonal birth control for many years so i had copper toxicity and simultaneously copper deficiency at the same time quite interesting and so because of that I had very low ceruloplasmin which is a really big part of like iron transporting utilization and so my ferritin was actually chronically low and it started to raise when I just worked on optimizing my entire mineral system not taking an iron supplement so you know we get those people we get people with like all sorts of like anxiety like mental things like muscle activation syndrome histamine issues so essentially like the system being extremely sensitive and kind of on high alert all the time.

32:29We see that a lot in our clients. Sometimes it's like very emotional, like emotional volatility or, you know, things that we think are not related to our physical body, but they actually are. And then, of course, anything, you know, that's related to like food sensitivities, like allergies, like that whole side of things and like skin issues. We get a lot like psoriasis, eczema, acne. Yeah, we, like I said, we really don't discriminate. We see everything across the board. And quite often if someone's like, hey, can you help me with this? Like, you know, there's been a handful of situations that if someone has like a stage four cancer diagnosis, I like to work alongside their oncologist because, you know, there are certain things that are above my pay grade.

33:12But it's still really good to understand, you know, When we work together and you go through these processes, you know, what's what's possible. I had a client once who her husband unfortunately died, but he dealt with like a stage four cancer diagnosis. He had tumors all over the body. And essentially what they did with him is go through this detoxification clinic where they were doing essentially everything that we do in our programs, you know, like regulating the nervous system, liver flushes, cleanses, like all these things. his tumors within three months shrank, like 95 % of his tumors were gone within three months, right, of him detoxing his body.

33:49And he ended up making the decision to, for the last 5%, go into radiation therapy and, you know, unfortunately die during that. But it shows, you know, how efficient like detoxification can be in the phase of these things. And I've had so many stories of people who ended up going through like detoxification and like, Like at one point I was working with a client who was doing everything to get her tumor markers down. And she just did this really simple gut detox for like four or five days that we put her on. And her tumor markers went down like so much that, you know, she ended up making a ton of content around that.

34:25So it's just really cool stories that we tend to see from these processes. And I'm just very excited for it to just grow and for people to become more aware of it. Yeah, I firmly believe that, you know, in some number of years from now, we will look back on chemotherapy and radiation as treatments for cancer and realize what we were actually doing to people. I mean, yeah, it in many cases, the best thing we have today and the people that that fight through and have beat it using those. God bless you. And it's amazing. And but when you think about what you're actually what those what they're actually doing to your body, is there like trying to And basically with chemo is like, we're going to kill you and hope the cancer dies before you die.

35:08I mean, that's essentially the tradeoff that you're making. And to think that you're just flooding your body with massive amounts of chemicals and toxic chemicals and just hoping the race to death is the cancer dies first is it seems very brutal. You know, I'm hoping there will come a day and it seems like things like peptides, you know, some of these, you know, mRNA stuff that they're doing now. This looks like there's a lot of potential fixes that aren't as highly toxic to the body. But man, that that the chemo stuff, the cancer stuff is crazy. And I agree with you that I think a lot of it is it's it's your body's way of dealing with stuff that shouldn't be there.

35:50You know, obviously I can't put words to it the way you can, but I, it just, that's the way it feels to me. And so I want to come back to cholesterol for a second real quick because, and I'll set the stage and then I'll pass it back over to you. So I've had hereditary high cholesterol my entire life, starting at eight years old. I get, I've gotten blood work every six months since I was eight because my, my cholesterol level has always been high. And And about two and a half years ago, probably, I went in to see my doctor. My doctor I'd had forever retired, passed me off to a new doctor. Doctor does blood work for the first time, sees the high cholesterol, and is like, we got to put you on Lipitor.

36:32And it was probably 265 with maybe slightly elevated LDL, I guess, so the stuff that's not as good. but you know this is the part that concerns me and I have told this story in the past on the podcast but her first instinct was just right to Lipitor right bam go right to Lipitor and I was like I don't want that crap in my body like I know that it can help people but it also has major side effects the time I'm only 43 I'm like I don't want to be on this for the rest of my life I'm not a big fan of pharmaceuticals to begin with. And I said, well, hey, if I don't have any plaque in my body, then I'm really, is it a concern?

37:15Like, is this number a concern if I don't have any plaque? So she agrees. Why she didn't recommend the plaque test to begin with is most likely because the commission wasn't high enough. But, you know, I go, zero plaque, come back. And I said, well, what other options are there? She has no idea. Um, so I ended up finding a hormone specialist, um, cause I also had a, an issue with testosterone for a little while that I fixed. And, uh, the hormone optimization specialist put me on, uh, terzepatide, a microdose of terzepatide and a microdose of, um, testemoralin and then, and then regulate, you know, work on the diet, you know, and frankly, I eat pretty healthy.

37:58It's just always been high. And I watched my cholesterol drop like to 205 within three months. And I think about things like peptides and some of these other alternatives to taking a pill every day as a way to work on these things. So one, I would love for you to level set kind of some of the lies, as you mentioned, about cholesterol. I want to leave that to you. And then what are you seeing outside of the statin or just, you know, maybe if you're eating, let's assume the person is eating a reasonable diet, right? This isn't because they're just wolfing down, you know, crappy processed, you know, McDonald's every day.

38:47Like, what is the lie about cholesterol and how should we kind of start to recalibrate our thinking around it? And then what are some of the ways that you deal with cholesterol with your clients? And, you know, is this related to toxins? And how do we do it without taking Lipitor? Yeah, so such a good question, you know. So I think first and foremost, like we have to understand that I think, I don't know which year it was, but the good levels of cholesterol actually were changed. So previously, I think it was like the cutoff was like 220 and then they lowered it to 200. So like it's like they don't even really know what good cholesterol is, right?

39:24So you're going to see some clients that have cholesterol at a little bit of the higher level, like 220, something like that, like LDL a little bit elevated. But if their hormones are fantastic, this is a very important picture to understand because sometimes the body actually has higher cholesterol because it's needed for that good hormone production. And so with a lot of clients that have these cholesterol levels that are flagged, but not extremely elevated, like let's say 220, like I mentioned, I actually think that that's a great thing. Like I actually think that low cholesterol is often an issue.

39:57And this is also why when we're just like only focused on lowering a number, we don't really know the implications that that has on our bodies long term, right? What happens to our hormones, what happens to like all these other processes in the body. And I also will say that like I really see so first of all, bile are, you know, liver's digestive fluid is primarily made up of cholesterol. And so quite often people that have some sort of like bile insufficiency or like stagnant bile, cholestasis, liver congestion, however you want to call it, whichever term you want to use, these people end up having higher levels of cholesterol in the blood as well.

40:35And so I end up seeing when we clear up that liver congestion, oftentimes the cholesterol drops and liver congestion, you know, it's such like an undiscussed topic. But, you know, you mentioning that you had this at eight years old, like you can be born with liver congestion if, you know, you're again, get if your parents had liver congestion, if potentially like they had higher levels of heavy metals or other toxins. sometimes also like for example things like estrogen also help create more liver congestion and this is oftentimes why I think you know a lot of women end up having like more anxiety because they retain more copper why they have more gut issues because they're all in birth control which like massively influences our microbiome so there's a massive connection with like the liver cholesterol but then also all these other parts of the body right another theory that I know a lot of people in my space talk about is how cholesterol and plaque in and of itself, if we think about the idea of that, right?

41:35Like why would the body build a plaque inside the arteries? Like my idea there is like if we are highly toxic, the body will quite literally try to protect the arteries by creating a layer of cholesterol to not have the whatever is going through the blood. Like if the pH is off, if there's certain toxins in the blood that could actually damage this arterial wall to quite literally protect itself. And so again, like detoxification, I would say is like one of the main things and tools here that we use to essentially support people in that process. And then of course, 100%, there's mineral imbalances that make, that have like a massive influence on this.

42:13And again, like certain toxicities. I will say that with peptides, because this is, I was talking about this on a podcast as well, I typically have a little bit of a different outtake on this than a lot of other people do. just because, again, like I think there's certain peptides that are incredible, right? Like I have some clients that are on peptides. I've used them in the past, didn't quite work for what I was dealing with at the time. And some of my mentors love them, some don't. The way that I kind of look at peptides is like, what are we using them for, especially with the GLP ones when it comes to like the functional medicine space?

42:48I know they're using like a low dose of them a lot for, you know, things like that, things like muscle activation syndrome and stuff like that. I like to just always pose the contemplation of like, okay, well, why was the body expressing the thing that it was doing in the first place, whether it is right, like muscle activation syndrome, high inflammation levels, high cholesterol. And just because we are using the peptide to kind of suppress that symptom and maybe change some other things in the body, are we actually dealing with the reason why that was happening in the first place? And I think that both can be true, right?

43:21We can take these peptides to support the body. And if we look deeper at the reason why the body was expressing itself in that way to make sure that we're not neglecting that to cause further implications later in life. So yeah, I always like to look at, you know, especially knowing how much these mineral imbalances and heavy metals play a role. It's like if we're taking a peptide, for example, to lower inflammation, but the cause of the inflammation was actually a high toxic burden, the peptide isn't going to release a toxic burden. So we still have to do that work alongside it. I do agree that, you know, certain peptides can basically lower the inflammation or support some process in the body so that the body has more energy to start to clear up some of these other things, right?

44:04I 100 % agree with that. But I do think it's important to mention because I do think that the functional space right now, just with anything that's booming, like fasting was booming, you know, like whenever we were talking about like late, late 20, for me, it was like 2015 to 2020. I was fasting all the time. Right. And now we're kind of learning about, oh, it's actually not good for everyone or there is, there are certain implications. And so I just tell my clients always to be a little cautious when they're jumping on trends that are like mass, you know, like promoted by everyone in this space.

44:38So I'll leave that there. Yeah, no, I think that's wonderful advice. And I completely agree. I had a buddy who reached out to me because I mentioned on the show that I was taking the Zepatide, which is a GLP-1 for those that it's a second generation for those that aren't aware. Zempic would be the would be the Gen 1 that most people have heard of. And so I mentioned that I was taking on the show and that I was really enjoying the results. It wasn't about weight loss at all um it was uh three three things um targeting uh visceral fat uh particularly um uh i'd wanted to remove the food noise in general and i had found i struggled with fairly severe adhd um diagnosed not self-diagnosed um not that should matter but i feel like i have to say that these days because freaking everyone says they have it you know just because they have a little energy.

45:35And I don't use it as a crutch. This is true. And I found that trisepatide in a micro dose actually allowed because I had played with like, like as I got older, I probably have always had it since I was a kid looking back at my life. But when I needed to when I was younger, I could like, pull it back in whenever I wanted, right? So my brain would be like, shooting a million directions. But it was like, I need to like, focus up on Eva right here. Like, I need to be present for her. I need to have my brain on what she's saying, listening. And I could just write down, right? And get rid of it. And as I got older, and I've gotten older, despite continuing to try to take care of myself very well, I found I didn't have that ability.

46:18It's like, if you've ever seen the movie For Love of the Game, like towards the end of the game, you can't clear the mechanism anymore. That's a deep baseball reference. But the so I was searching for solutions and I tried, you know, my doctor also wanted to put me on Adderall. And I tried that. It's fucking amazing. Horrible for you, but it does all the things it's going to do. So not that I recommend you taking it, but having a little sample bottle for when you get some shit done isn't the worst thing in the world. Not medical advice. Remember, Ryan is not in the medical field, not medical advice.

46:54But I found that the GLP-1, there was research around its impact on focus, on like, not that you can harness discipline, but on your task, like getting more activation of your dopamine centers around tasks, which is essentially what Adderall does, right? Like milks your brain, your Adderall receptors, so you feel good about tasks. Okay. So that was a very long contextual diatribe to say at this point. I said it on the podcast. I had a buddy who was slightly overweight, who was like, thought it was going to be this miracle. He goes out, he gets a prescription from his doctor, starts injecting himself.

47:32And, you know, two months later, he's like, it's not working. And I was like, well, okay, why? Like, what are you, did you, are you working out? Well, no. Well, okay. Well, did you change your diet? Are you still like pounding beers and eating cheeseburgers and shit all the time? Well, you know, maybe a little less. I'm like, well, it's like if you don't, it's not a, it's not like injected in your body and your body just sucks in and all of a sudden you have a six pack abs and you look like an Adonis. Like that's, that's not even close. Like it's, it is a, it is one other tool that if utilized properly in conjunction with all the stuff you're talking about.

48:11Right. And I think what I'm hearing from you and I, and I really like this about your philosophy is that there isn't like a thing. It's not like if you do this one thing, everything changes. It's we have to be what I hear you saying is we need to be cognizant of all these different mechanisms, which which does take some work. But at the same time, like you get one body. So if you're going to focus on anything and maybe spend a little extra time thinking about something, this is probably the right thing to think about. And that's the part that I feel like, unfortunately, when you get these trends, doesn't get communicated.

48:47Right. It's like GLP ones. and the Tessamoralin and Samoralin and these types of things, you can waste them. One, they're expensive. And two, if you're just injecting them and not changing your body and not changing your lifestyle in these other ways, they're going to do literally nothing for you. It's like lighting money on fire. They're additive mechanisms to a system that's functioning close to properly, not these like inject yourself in the stomach with this thing and then all of a sudden your life changes and you have bulging muscles and six-pack abs, you know, if you're a dude and that's what you're going for.

49:28So how do you, like when you're working with someone, how do you get them to this more holistic approach? Because I know you said most people are healthy, you tend to get more healthy people, but again, let's take that, we'll just say right down the middle, average American who is busy, maybe they have a couple kids and they've let themselves, you know, they don't have as much time. You're only going to gym once a week. And maybe they slip a couple cheeseburgers in there and cookies a little too often. And not that they're like obese, but they are not the way, you know, maybe they got a few more toxins, a little extra weight.

50:02Like, how does that person who struggles to keep up day to day, how do they start to develop this holistic approach to their health and the toxins in their body and like just getting rid of just the simple things like the brain fog and some of the chronic inflammation fatigue, which is unnatural. Like, how do you start to wrap your head around this? Because what I get from people is like, dude, I don't know how you do it. Like, how do you keep up with all this shit? And I'm like, I'm not even an expert. So like, how do you how do you recommend people do that? Yeah. So I will just preface like most of my clients are not healthy.

50:40They just try to live it or think they live a healthy lifestyle, but they're oftentimes extremely sick. Right. It's ironically, usually the people who have the healthiest lifestyle that are most sick because they're like, you know, so obsessed with like trying to do everything perfect. That's a good point. Thank you. Yeah. So I think like the first thing to understand is that, you know, we when a client comes in, I'm not just looking at their physical habits, right? Like, I'm not just looking at like, okay, like, you know, this is what they're doing every single day. But it's also like, their identity, it's what matters, their priorities, right?

51:10Like, because if you are working with someone that exactly the case that you just described, right? Like, they're busy, they have a couple kids, like they're, you know, eating cheeseburgers, or they're going out to eat a lot. Like, the first thing that I ask my clients quite often is like, okay, like, what's going on? what are your priorities and what are your goals, right? Because if you prioritize like having fun on the weekend and like having a couple beers over your health, then it doesn't matter what we're gonna do with your physical body because that's always gonna be number one for you, right?

51:38So we have to look at like your inner reality, essentially of like how you look at the world, how you look at your physical body and that first needs to change, right? Because the willingness to change has to come from inside. It's not like, hey, my friend, this is literally why we don't take clients on with this particular profile who are like, hey, well, my so-and-so said that I needed to do this. And so I'm here to do it, but I don't want to do it. Right. Like if you don't have the willingness to do the thing, it's not going to stick. Right. Like it has to come from inside. And so what we really help our clients with is just getting to that point of like, okay, like what's, what's the thing inside of you that's holding you back right now?

52:14Like what's that inner critic, the inner voice, or maybe even like, in my case, I used to deal a lot with this when I was having, you know, wanted to eat like really healthy and just like not overeat. And then there was this part that was rebelling against that and just like would eat cookies late at night and would like snack like at midnight in a pantry. Right. And so what I needed to do is actually do something what I call somatic work or emotional release work, where I essentially would talk to that part of myself, which is quite always often a younger part of us that feels like she needs to rebel against authority, which is myself now the authority that says I'm going to eat healthy.

52:52And so there's this inner conflict that ends up happening in our nervous system, in our like inner worlds where there's a part of us that always feels like it needs to rebel against the part that wants to live healthy or have certain goals. And this is what I would say happens with like 90 % of people with, you know, like intentions at the start of the year, there's a new part of them that's like, I want to be this person that's living healthy, that has these habits. And then there's the younger part of them that says, well, I want to do things this way. And I don't like discomfort. and I just want to choose the easy path, right?

53:23So there has to be some sort of dialogue that happens between those two parts for them to reach an ultimatum that actually says, hey, we both want the same thing, which is we want to feel heard, seen, loved, and we want to have a good experience. And so within that, like, just shifting that inner awareness sometimes can change people's habits. Like I remember I had a client who was in his 50s. He like drove from like, he lived somewhere in like middle America, like basically where no one knows about healthy eating, you know, like he worked in construction and he was an alcoholic and he ended up driving to my place.

53:57We did like a couple of these like emotional, really somatic sessions. And after one session, we essentially just extremely deeply went into the reason why he drinks, which ended up being some sort of like guilt and shame that he carried from like his dad's side generations down of like feeling like he wasn't a good man and whatever, like crazy story. He released that trauma and he didn't drink again. Right. So it's like sometimes it's not like we have this idea that it's really hard to set goals and it's really hard to do these healthy things. But as soon as we make that decision internally and we understand that it just clicks in, it's just like we get that momentum.

54:34Right. We'll move forward. So we oftentimes try to get to our clients like, why? Like, why do you want this? And like, how can we make that the number one priority that's going to move you forward in this process. And then typically, like just making it simple, right? Like it's not about doing things perfect. That's what I always tell my clients. Like just because I give you like, hey, this is what you can do in the morning. This is how you can eat. Like if you eat out twice a week, but you're doing the rest, like you're doing better than you did before. So you're going to see improvements, right?

55:03Like if you sometimes fall off or you like end up scrolling on your phone all day or watching movies and eating snacks at night, like that's okay. Like you're not going to mess up your progress. It's just like, sure, it might slow you down like 2%, but it's not going to set you back in any way. Like I like to get away from that idea that we can have a setback in life. So when we reduce that pressure and we give people the opportunity to be more flexible and we just tell them like, hey, just take these supplements, try to do this the best you can, try to eat in this way. Like even if it's just eating some more vegetables, stuff like that, like awesome.

55:37They're still going to see results. They're going to have a good time and they don't feel that pressure. And over time, the healthier that we get, the better the choices are that we make. Right. It's like, yeah. So what I think is wild is that I think a vast majority of the population doesn't even know what it feels like to feel good anymore. I think they've masked with food or some sort of toxic behavior, not necessarily toxins, but toxic behavior that I don't even know if they can wrap their head around or even like visualize or experience in their brain what like remember what it felt like to just be like feel good.

56:29Like not wake up tired, not wake up with brain fog, not look down and see, you know, body in places that they don't necessarily want to see. But you know what I mean? Like they don't they don't they don't know what that feels like. So I sometimes I think it's hard because it's been so long since they felt good that they they don't even know what the goal is. They like want to, quote unquote, feel better. But it's like sometimes they can't even rationalize. like what that is. And I feel like that's very sad. And a lot of it, I think, has been, you talked about the lies around cholesterol, like so many aspects of our physical health, disconnecting physical health from mental health, right?

57:17I love this. And I really, you know, I want to finish on this idea of how these two things work in conjunction, because I love this about your work and I agree in like it feels right to me right I obviously don't know the science behind it that's your place but like it feels right to me and the disconnection of of of mental and physical and acting as if they're two separate things like you know you talked you mentioned before and this kind of like a high level of copper can make you more anxious right? Like, I don't think people realize that. Like, do women who have copper IUDs realize that they have to be very careful?

57:59And you mentioned it, I only know this because I'm having dated women for as long as I have, that this can give them anxiety and that if they're not managing certain minerals in their body, that it's not their fault they're feeling anxiety, actually. Their body is producing anxiety as a reaction to what's going on inside. So now you might be going to a therapist thinking that you have something wrong with, you know, mentally with yourself, when really it's just your body's not intaking or processing certain chemicals or certain minerals the right way. And there's so little talk about that. You know what I mean?

58:36Like, I mean, how many of you are there's just not that many people like you out there. I mean, maybe in your community, you can name a bunch. But I'll tell you, to the broader world, there aren't that many people talking about this. It's one of the reasons I love doing this show is just helping spread these messages. But talk just let's let's finish on in our conversation here today around this idea of like, you know, and go wherever you want with this. But like this idea of interconnecting and your mental and your physical and starting to think through how you can just feel better overall. Like, like if, you know, that kind of keystone pitch on this for people, because I just, you know, not perfect.

59:18but I do work very hard at this. And I think for 45, I'm in pretty good shape. I'm in pretty good health. Like I wake up every day. I feel pretty good, all things considered. Like, you know, obviously anything can be better, but I think I'm pretty good. I just have so many friends that they just simply don't understand. Like they don't understand what it feels like to wake up in your mid 40s and pop out of bed at 5.30 a.m., like feel good, ready to go. like go get after it at the gym. Like they're struggling to get out of bed at 7.30, 8 o 'clock and get their kids on the bus. And I would love for those who have the inclination as you described, the self-motivation to get there.

1:00:00I would love for them to connect, go down the path with you and start to feel better. I just, I think our whole entire society would change if everyone just felt a little better every day. Yeah, this is such a, like you said, like people don't discuss this topic enough, right? So I'll start at what you were mentioning earlier about like the ADHD type symptoms, right? So when we look at ADHD, and again, like, for people that like to go into literature, like definitely would recommend them looking into the work of Dr. Pollack and Dr. Wilson, where essentially, we're talking about like mineral balancing, right?

1:00:35So we're talking about like the mineral status in someone's body, certain metals, certain minerals, and these metals and minerals also have certain qualities. So copper, for example, like we already kind of discussed, like it excites the brain so it can create more anxiety, essentially. And so we see also that copper is a very feminine mineral. And so like this is also typically why women are higher in copper and men are higher in iron because iron is a very masculine mineral, also a metal. And so essentially, like we start to see that these minerals essentially shape our personality. And this is where it gets really interesting because things like autism, ADHD, like any sort of like what we call, you know, like mental disorders tend to have roots in these mineral imbalances and certain like biochemistry that the brain then produces.

1:01:22And so this is also why like mineral balancing, it's been studied so well for kids with ADHD and autism with incredible results, like literally like incredible, because a lot of these tend to be these heavy metals that actually create these like, like you said, right, like this brain that just like starts to have like chaos or like these chaotic impulses. And so rather than saying like, oh, there's something wrong with me, we can start to say, oh, there's something wrong with the biochemistry that's happening in my body. And what's underneath that is oftentimes the certain minerals and metals that have an influence on our brain.

1:02:00And so one thing that I started to observe in a lot of clients is especially in relation to mercury. So people, you know, potentially like through vaccine injuries, like because there's mercury in vaccines, it could potentially be through eating a lot of fish, right? Like I have clients all the time who say, well, I only eat, you know, wild fish like once or twice a week and their levels of mercury are through the roof, especially tuna. I literally don't even touch tuna. Like I don't think I'll ever do again because I know how toxic it is in mercury. mercury fillings. So if you have those silver fillings in your mouth, or maybe your parents had those, that was my case, right?

1:02:34My parents had those. So they were passed down in utero. So I had more toxic metals in my body as a kid. And so yeah, like as a kid, you know, I had learning disabilities, I had eczema, I had like all of these things that you would assume, right? Like how can a kid get such things? Well, it's because right, we're, again, we're born into like whatever toxicity or mineral pattern our parents kind of inherit to us. And so when we look at this, and specifically in relation to mercury, I'll just kind of tell the story of this client who had mercury fillings. And I've seen this with multiple clients who have had mercury fillings.

1:03:10A, oftentimes the parasite burden in these clients is a lot higher. In her case, she also had a root canal, which root canals is a whole other topic we could go down to. But they say that 100 % of all root canals are infected and they actually like almost always contribute to massive inflammation and infection in the body. In her case, they found about 20 different parasites in her jaw, like all sorts of bacterial overgrowth because of this infected root canal. And she had all those mercury fillings. Now she ended up full blown hallucinating. Like she was seeing like dark forces show up in the flesh in her living room, thinking that people were haunting her.

1:03:46Like some of my mentors have stories that when they were going through lead elimination, so again, a heavy metal elimination, that they were quite literally convinced that the FBI was after them, they would start hiding in their rooms. And I've experienced this myself when I was going through these copper dumps, again, because I was on birth control and had a copper IUD. I was seeing things that weren't there. I would wake up in the middle of the night thinking someone was at my door. Like, literally, it can change our perception and the brain chemistry. And so I would, you know, like, it's a bold statement, but I think that almost all, if not all cases of people with mental illnesses, with like, you know, like schizophrenia, bipolar disease, like there's probably a correlation.

1:04:29If we had their mineral tests and we could see the heavy metals in their body, we would probably see a massive correlation there. And so that's, of course, just one of the parts. But even if we think about the gut and the brain connection, right, there's an awesome book that I read like 10 years ago, I think it was, I think it's literally called The Gut-Brain Connection. And it talks about this relationship between our microbes and again, like our brain, our serotonin, right? So about 90 % of our serotonin is created in the gut. So if we have imbalances in our gut, if we have, like what I said, right, liver congestion that leads to overgrowth of certain bacteria that has more of these pathogenic bacteria overgrow and not as many of the good bacteria that help create the serotonin, we might feel depression and anxiety.

1:05:16And what happens, right, is like as a child, maybe we're put on antibiotics. It wipes out our good microbiome. Now we get anxiety and depression. There's a ton of information out there. um zach bush does a lot of research on this as well how i think it was like one course of antibiotics can like can increase our risk of major depression by like 40 percent of just one round right so it's we start to just see like the relationship to what we think is us right our brain our mental state versus like is it really just a relationship or a result of how our physical body is functioning at that time. And the beautiful thing as well, and, you know, when we look at like meditation or like working with like our mind as a way to heal ourselves, it also goes both ways.

1:06:04Like we can do things with our minds that actually end up signaling things to the body that it can heal. And this is why we see sometimes, you know, people in Joe Dispenza retreats or these meditation retreats, they have these spontaneous remissions or suddenly they can walk again after not being able to walk because the mind in and of itself is also extremely powerful. So it's this bidirectional relationship that if we understand that, you know, we would optimize our bodies, I believe, more so that we can really alter our brain chemistry and the way that we see the world and look at the world, we can become more positive and therefore, you know, do better in our job, do better with our finances and our relationships.

1:06:42And the other way around as well, Like we'd probably spent more time like really working on improving our mental focus on meditation, on all these things that we know improve the physical body and our energy as well. So it's 100 percent a bidirectional relationship. And yeah, I mean, we could say so much here, but I think that's that's good. Eva, this has been a tremendous conversation. I could do another three hours with you. I find this topic fascinating, and I think it's so incredibly important because, as I said, I just know too many people who live day to day with this acceptance of symptoms that I think with even a marginal amount of attention applied to things like mineral imbalances, the toxins we're taking to our body, exercise, meditation, you know, some of these things could remove those.

1:07:34and at least remove them in large part. And how much better is your life? You know what I mean? How much better is your life when you don't feel like you're looking through or thinking through a fog every day or you don't look at your face and it feels bloated and puffy and you don't feel athletic or you don't have to be, I just don't believe that you have to fade off into the night as you get older. You know, I'm fighting, I'm gonna fight it tooth and nail and it's not gonna be done through pharmaceuticals and chemicals as much as possible. I do personally put peptides in a slightly different category than pharmaceuticals, at least some of them.

1:08:12You know, I think you have to be very careful, guys. Obviously, I'm not a doctor. This is not medical advice. So anything that I say, take is what I do, but not a recommendation. Eva, I know there are going to be a lot of people that want to get deeper into your world. What's the best way for them to do that? both your content and if they're interested in working with you? Yeah, so I share a lot on social media. So that's just my first name dot my last name. So at Eva dot Hoeft. And yeah, there's links to free masterclasses. I'm going to be putting up a lot more free content there. I also have a podcast myself.

1:08:47It's not fully active right now, but there is about 25 episodes or some 20 to 30 there for people that want to dive a bit deeper into that as well. And yeah, everything, you know, I'm very, very responsive on DM. So I try to answer every single DM that comes in, even though sometimes that means it's like 100 a day. But, you know, so if there's questions about the work, you can ask me that either on email or through DMs. And also the link in bio will get you to my website where all that information can be found. Well, I appreciate you. I appreciate you out here sharing this message. I love it. I think it's important.

1:09:20And just thanks again for your time. Yeah, thank you as well.

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If you've been on Instagram for more than 30 seconds, you've been pitched a detox. Most of those juice cleanses and 10-day kits are marketing scams. The real problem is that your body's natural drainage pathways are backed up, and you're carrying a toxic load that has been stacking up for decades, sometimes since before you were born.

In this conversation, I sit down with holistic detox coach Eva Hooft to break down the root causes of chronic fatigue, brain fog, and anxiety. Eva walked away from an international modeling career after privately fighting chronic illness and depression, and she now helps people turn their body's own systems back on instead of chasing symptoms. 

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We get into the truth about heavy metals hiding in your water, food, and clothes, why fasting can make you sicker if you're already depleted, and why parasites are a signal rather than the enemy. We cover the lie you've been told about cholesterol, including my own story of refusing Lipitor and dropping 60 points anyway. 

Then we get into the part that surprised me most: how your minerals shape your personality, and how fixing your gut can change your anxiety, your focus, and your mood.

Everything Eva shares is her opinion and experience as a coach, not medical advice. Take it as a smarter set of questions to bring to your own health.

You don't have to accept waking up tired. When you fix the biochemistry, you fix the mind.

This is the way.

Hanley.


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