EMMA MYERS: How Netflix’s Wednesday Made Me Famous Overnight. I Wasn’t Prepared for How My Life Would Change

0:00You mentioned your life changed overnight when you starred on Wednesday. Yes. I got some numbers for you. Are you ready for this? Yeah. Season one got over 252 million views in 91 days of its release. That is totally and utterly mad. It's disgusting numbers. You went to bed, pretty much, with 9 ,000 followers. Yeah. Three days later, you had 5 million. Yeah. Hi, I'm Emma Myers and I'm in great company. The one. The only. It's Emma Myers. I never went to school, ever. Ever? I was homeschooled. Being the odd one out, people being fake nice and, you know, inviting you to things just to make fun of you.

0:38You had that experience? Oh my God, so many times. Are you serious? When the show first came out and I was just starting to look at the reactions and stuff, like, I couldn't help myself. It was almost an addiction. Explain to me what that is like. Getting validation from this thing that you've put so much work into, but at the same time, it's so damaging. People, you know, spread rumors about my family. Seeing my friends get called parasites and leeches for posting pictures with me. I didn't know how to handle it. There was whole fan fiction that Jenna and you went into like a platonic relationship.

1:09Yeah, Jenna is the most amazing person ever. I'm less worried about people shipping us and more of the fact that they harass other people who get close to one another because they want us to be together. Wow. What is Jack Black like behind the scenes? He feels like an amazing improv actor. Because it's such a big show, how secretive do you have to be about it? I'm not going to tell anyone. Well, you kind of are.

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4:13Guys, welcome back to another episode of Great Company. Today's guest is Emma Myers from Netflix's hit show Wednesday. Okay, their biggest show. Now, before we start, I would just like to ask you one quick favor. That is, if you can hit that subscribe button. It does us wonders, I can't even explain. It also means you join our community and get signal whenever we have another episode uploaded. If you can do that one thing, I'll thank you forever. Okay, enjoy this incredible episode of Great Company with Emma Myers. I know you're a huge fan of Narnia. I am, yeah. I auditioned for Narnia. Can I guess what role?

4:49Peter? It was Peter. That makes sense. And I was about 16 years old. How far did you make it? Not very far. They came to my school to try and find Peter. Oh, did they? That's cool. So they came to my school to try and find Peter. and I was like in my head I was like I'm gonna get this role I didn't even I didn't even get past that first bit it's okay we've all been there there's been roles where I'm like yeah this is mine and then doesn't go anywhere what roles has that been for you oh so many to the point where like if if you see a role in a film or a tv show and it's my age range and like a girl with brown hair I've probably auditioned for it really yeah you I mean everybody auditions for everything.

5:36Like, you're always told to audition for everything. Even if you don't want to do it, just audition. It's good to get in front of the casting director anyways. Do you remember your first ever audition? Um, yes. Weirdly enough, I have a very good memory. Where were you? What was happening? What was it? I was in Florida. I think I was auditioning for the Pampers diaper box. And I think I was like... I was too old to be auditioning for diapers. I think I was like three. I know. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You remember this? I do. I remember images in my head. So I know what the waiting room looked like.

6:19I've always had a very, very good memory. And I can't tell you how the audition went, but I can remember doing it. That's wild. I know. Which is why I don't have to do much prep because I can look at a scene. I read it through twice and then know it. Yeah. So this is like a superpower. It really is. I'm very blessed with it. So you can read a script and you read it through twice and you can get it. Photographic or it just goes in? I don't think it's photographic, but I think I just, I don't know how. Like my mom told me that when I was a baby, like you know the game where you flip over tiles and try and match them?

6:58She would be like, oh, you would beat me every time at two years old doing like Winnie the Pooh tile games. I just, I don't know. You speak about, it's called pairs. Yeah, pairs, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I never look at my lines before the day. I'll look at them first in rehearsal and then by the end of rehearsal, which is maybe like 15 minutes, I'll know it. But I think it's also, it also has to do with knowing your material. Like you know your character, you know what the gist of the scene is. Like as long as you know what your objective is, I feel like you can, I don't know and that's such confidence that's wild confidence what you're saying is that when you know the gist of a scene you can kind of just go and wing it for me that would make me freak out well it does most people like my sister who's also an actor has to memorize her lines like with the week before like she did a film and like knew her whole script before they even started shooting because it makes her so nervous to have to learn new lines every day whereas I if I memorize something so far out, then when I get to the day, I'm like, oh, I'm not as confident in it as if I just looked at it really quickly in the morning.

8:07I kind of weirdly know what you mean. Sometimes I do a lot of hosting, right? And when I'm doing a lot of hosting, when I get given an autocue or a script, I don't feel it's free. And I feel like I have to stick to that script. Exactly. Yeah. I like being able to paraphrase and use them as sort of guidelines. Because then it makes you feel more natural in the moment. Exactly. So talk about Charla. Where did you grow up? I grew up in Orlando, Florida, like 10, 15 minutes from Disney. I know. I still love Disney. I think it's so fun to go. I was homeschooled. So I spent, like, Disney used to do these, like, residence passes.

8:46So if you lived in Florida and you had a Florida address, you could get an annual pass for cheaper, go off peak like during school school time and during weekdays and so me and my sisters who are all homeschooled used to go to Disney during the day and then come back at night and then do your school. Homeschooling? Talk me through homeschooling. Well, so my mom taught us essentially there's curriculums and programs that you get and it's essentially the same as any school program you just do at home. But my mom taught us until we were about 12 and then the curriculum we were using sort of teaches you how to teach yourself so I was essentially my own tutor and I would read and do all my homework and you know you just check yourself with the with the answer key and stuff but I yeah I I never went to school ever ever besides taking the SATs you never went to school never went to school yeah what does that what does that uh create right because you you have three other sisters yeah you all homeschool together this is in Orlando so your your mom is a is a stay-at-home mom and just basically teaching you every single day yeah and how did you does that mean you make friends outside of the family yeah so I I was always on some sort of dance team I I'd done dance since I was like four maybe um so I made friends through that I made friends through acting I did a lot of theater when I was younger like other kids that were homeschooled in the area like they would put on these homeschool events and you'd go and meet other kids your age and just to socialize them I think like I don't think homeschooling is a bad thing as long as you're socialized outside of that because I have met kids who were homeschooled and didn't have any of that and you can spot them from a mile away.

10:44So you made friends by going to do dance and performing. Has that always been in your core? Has that always been your soul? Oh, always, always. I've never really explored a career that wasn't entertainment in some form. Like I've always had a backup, sure, but I just loved performing. I grew up with theater and dance and just loved doing it. I don't know. It's always been my thing. I've never really been like, oh, I'll do something else. Yeah, it's always been. It's always been that. Did you ever feel like you missed out on school dancers' proms on any of those kind of games? You didn't ever? No, because the homeschool group used to do these English country line dances.

11:34Sounds wicked. Yeah, because, you know, it was like classical education. so you know they'd throw these and to be fair they were so much fun like they teach you how to do the old-fashioned like if you've seen pride and prejudice and all the like the regency era dancing they do they would make us do it honestly so much fun when you go with your friends um but i never really felt the need to go to a prom or or anything i i why because you just you didn't feel like i just don't think that's really my environment like i never i don't know i i grew up very introverted and and all of my friends were like the weird ones I guess so I never felt the need to go to a every time I was at an event where I had to dress up and like dance and stuff with my friends I was like it's not really my thing really but but can I like dive into that because I find that whole concept of saying like my friends were the weird ones right yeah why why is your friendship friendship group the weird ones why are the other people why are the other Well, that's what I would say.

12:36But, you know, it's so strange being the odd one out when you're growing up because it's like everybody else deems you guys the weird ones. Even though, like, we're all kids. You know, kids are going to be eccentric and have different interests. Completely. And, like, nobody ever taught these kids who bullied us, like, oh, people have different interests than you. And it's fine. and you like what you like and they like what they like and you don't need to make people feel weird about it. But yeah, me and my friends were always the ones who were like the strange ones, which I mean some of the things we did, you might side-eye us a bit, but I don't think anything kids do that involves their special interests or like if you're not harming anybody, I don't understand what the issue is.

13:30But let's break this down a little bit, okay? because we've just met, right? I'm sitting with you, right? The Emma that I have just met feels incredibly kind. Thank you. Feels that she knows herself pretty well. Yeah, I'd say so. Feels way smarter than me. I don't know. No, trust me. I feel my expertise. No, no, no, I'll say it. Far more talented in every single way. Hardworking, you've been grafting since you were a kid, right? That feels way more... the fact that you know yourself, the fact that you know that's not your people and that's not your side. Well, I've sat with so many people who potentially would be the popular kids at school, right?

14:09And I can tell there's far more insecurities coming from them than there are from you. I think that's what it is. I think it's them projecting their own insecurities and, and I don't know. I think that like, maybe you have to get bullied to have a little bit of character and find yourself and feel really confident in yourself i i i wish that that's not the case but i know so many people who went through the same experience as me and and are so like grounded in themselves and like no like i know myself and you know maybe i was weird but who cares talk to me about the bullying side of things because i i've just i've just had a baby boy i haven't my wife has i keep saying that i definitely did not have the baby but um But I, you know, I look at my baby and I'm so protective and I worry about the outside world.

15:02Because I worry about the influences that come in. And I worry about how he is, what's he going to be like when he's older? Is he going to have trouble at school? Are people going to be nice to him? Are they going to be mean to him? And from your experience, what kind of bullying happened and how did you handle it? Well, I feel like teenage girls on a dance team is very sort of like specific level of bullying. Um, it is so hard because of course you probably want your kid to have experience and friends and, you know, go out and socialize and stuff. But I think with that comes people who, you know, will pick on you.

15:38And, and the stuff that me and my friends went through was just like petty, stupid things and people being fake nice and, you know, inviting you to things just to make fun of you and stuff like that. Even though it, it's like, what am I doing? You've had that experience? Oh my God, so many times. Are you serious? I'm going to go and F up those people Kids are mean And I look back on it now And I'm just like You know They're also kids Am I going to hold somebody To what they said or did to me When we were 12 No, like we were kids I have no grudges against anybody And I have no I don't think badly about anybody But I also think there's such an important And like, you should talk to your kids about bullying because I feel, I find so many parents are like, oh, my kid would never do that.

16:31But like your kid might be doing it and you have no idea. You have no idea. I just find it important to have those conversations. And I so wish that there were adults in my life when I was that age who stood up for me. And there weren't besides like my mom and my friend's moms. But, you know. Did they stand up for you? Of course. Of course. But, you know, when you get involved with teachers and, you know, bullies, parents and stuff like that, and everybody's against, you know, what we're saying, you can only do so much. And it just got to the point where my mom was like, look, you're going to run into people in your life who won't understand you.

17:05And all you can do is say, well, whatever, that's me. And I hope you're happy and I'm going to be happy as well. So I don't think you'll ever be, I mean, I hope you would, but I think you'll always run into people who are miserable and will want to take it out on you. So you feel sorry for those other people sometimes? I do, I do. I feel sorry. I think it just reflects their mindset. I think kids bully because they're insecure or they're getting bullied themselves. You never know what somebody else is going through and what they might be dealing with in other aspects of their life, which causes them to take it out on you.

17:43But I just think that, like, you know, if somebody doesn't like you, it's hard to accept that. And it's hard to, especially when you're a kid. But, you know. They're not your people. They're not your people. I completely agree with you. You can find your own community. And, you know, don't let somebody else dampen you. Because it's, you know, life's too short. And there's a great quote. It's why fit in when we're born to stand out. Exactly. 100%. You know, you have this sort of passion for fantasy, right? Yeah. So Narnia, I know you love The Hobbit. Love, love, love The Hobbit. And for me, right, that feels like your place where that's your world that you could go to as an escape.

18:25Oh, 100%. 100%. I was so obsessed. I still am. I'm always constantly reading a fantasy novel. I just love... What is it about it? Explain that to me. I just think I like the escapism. I think it's so much fun. I think, like, I was always pretending as a kid, you know, me and my sisters would just play, you know, oh, we're on Star Wars and, you know, we're doing this. Or, oh, we're on our horses in the middle of Middle Earth. And, you know, I don't know what it is specifically. I've just always felt comfort in, like, big epic universes and something that's, like, completely different than what we have in real life.

19:04And I think that's why I love acting so much is I can do things that I would never be able to do in normal life. It's so true. Can you speak Elvish? I can't, but my uncle can. No. My uncle can. Fluently? Fluently. He took a whole course on it and everything. You are. You can't do me. And I kind of want to do it because it seems like it would be so fun. Such like a niche thing to know. but I like watch the behind the scenes of those films and I'm like like to sit there and learn a made-up language for this project would be like a bucket list thing it's so cool how amazing is that Tolkien created a new language it's incredible I like his knowledge was so deep of so many things And I think he like studied older versions of different languages.

20:01Yeah. Like took things from different ones to make up his own. The depth of knowledge within those books. To have to make up a whole language as well. Yeah, it's crazy. And the connection that it has throughout, it's like the way that your brain has to be big enough to understand how to connect different worlds and different stories that this over here was back centuries over here. Yeah. It's wild to have that imagination. I could never.

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21:57You're religious? I am. You grew up in a Christian household? I did. When did you really turn towards religion? That's such a good question. Just from my point of view, I grew up in somewhat of a religious family. My auntie, incredibly religious. And we used to go to church on Sundays. At school, I also went to church every Sunday. and we had church every single evening apart from Wednesdays, right? But because of that, I sort of turned away from religion because I was forced into it I feel the exact same way Really? Yeah, so I grew up very similarly going to church every Sunday went to youth group for a while I always, always believed in God and I've never been like oh, I don't believe but I've it's sort of there's always like a problem And sometimes I have with organized religion where it does push people away.

22:53And depending on the type of church you're with or, you know, the people you interact with, a lot of them have no grace, which is what we're called to have is grace and compassion and understanding. And I think that in turn pushes people away. Elaborate on that. What do you mean that they have no grace? Like, if you're not perfect, then you don't truly believe and you're not worth this, which is the exact opposite of what God says. And when I was a teenager and struggling and, you know, I had really bad social anxiety when I was 14. And like I couldn't do anything. I was having panic attacks going in public.

23:38So I went to see a like church counselor, I guess. And, you know, she was like, oh, well, you just have to pray more, which is not the answer you want when you're struggling. And you're like, well, I am praying and I don't understand what I'm doing. Like God must not love me or whatever, but that's totally not the case. And I, when I was 14, I kind of was just like, yeah, like I believe that I'm not like, you know, whatever. I never think about it too much until I turned, I think I was 21 maybe. And I like, I was having the worst time of my entire life. I was not sleeping for days. I'd go to work being awake for three days straight.

24:19I was struggling so much. I was so depressed. You weren't sleeping at all? I was not sleeping. I've had, I struggled, my whole family struggles with insomnia, but I was having such a bad time that I was just like, I can't take this anymore. Like, I was like, please help me, God. I don't know what to do. And I started really just putting my faith in him and speaking to him directly and not wanting to be a part of like an organized church, but instead having a relationship with God. and it's completely like fully just changed me. And I feel I have so much comfort in it. And I feel like having, I think a lot of people don't understand that it's not even about going to church.

25:03It's not about the religion. It's about having a relationship with God and that's really all he wants. And, you know, I hate the fact that people are turned away because of people misrepresenting God. That is a great way to look at it. Because I think you're so right. I think it feels like it needs to be a group thing. You need to be a part of this big ensemble. But actually having your own individual relationship with God is important. That's the most important thing. And he meets you where you are. You do not have to be perfect. I am far from perfect. If we had to be perfect, nobody would be worthy of it.

25:46And we're not worthy of it, but because God is like, I love you so much, have a relationship with me and nothing else matters is why I love so much. I have three non-negotiables in life now. One is I try and exercise. That can be a walk. It can be a run. It can be a gym. It can be whatever it is. Very important. 100 % right. One non-negotiable. The other one is I take homeopathic medicine. Yeah, that's what my mom is the same. I mean, your mom would get on. Yeah. And my third non-negotiable is I always give thanks every evening and every morning. That's such a good thing to do. 100%. And it was my wife who started me to do it.

26:22And she said, listen, you know, again, I think this was in a period, maybe a few years ago, I was going through moments of maybe anxiety, stress. And I think I wasn't living in my true self. So I said, okay. She said, why don't you just give thanks? Stop looking up for what you don't have, but appreciate what you do have. Exactly. And so I would give thanks every evening and every morning. and since then it has also changed my life yeah I think it's so good to be grateful like for everything and and I so recognize that I I would not be here if God didn't want me to be here and like have has given me this and I and I have this desire and he's clearly blessed me with so much in my life and and I realized that like it's not by my own works alone that I am here so I it's it's such a good thing to give thanks can I ask a personal question yeah You said that you experienced these panic attacks and this social anxiety.

27:15And I know social anxiety is crippling. Yeah. And you also experienced that sort of depression as well. Were there moments, like you said, where you were just like, I can't take this? So many times. So many times. And it's so crippling sometimes. I think especially in this job, it can be so lonely, which I recently just started going to therapy. Congrats. I really like I'm so happy I started doing it because I've kind of I kind of have pushed it off a lot because I guess I've kind of gaslit myself into being like oh it's really not that but like you don't need therapy you're fine you just got to get over this hump and you'll be okay and I and I've realized that it's like I can't alone help myself I have to have other people and I think deciding to go has has really really helped me but yeah there was a period in my life where I was like yeah I don't know how far I'm gonna make it anymore because it's it's so lonely in this business and having to deal with all of that having like my life changed overnight not having anybody around me who understood whatsoever and not really wanting to reach out to people who understood in work because it's it's so it's such a weird thing to call somebody up and be like hey I'm not doing good I don't know how you deal with this like what can you do because I find that a lot of people who are at that huge levels also don't know what to do like everybody's sort of there's no playbook there's no there's no way to handle it properly um so I I was like, you know what, I'm going to give it a go because, you know, people who've started going are like, I think you really need this.

29:04And I figured out that I have ADHD, which has actually really helped me understand a lot of things about myself. Like, why am I like this? No, that's why. Well, thank you for sharing it, man. Secondly, thank God you are here. I know. I'm glad. I'm very happy. Yeah, it does. it is such a difficult thing to to contemplate but yeah it's I'm glad I'm here you know um you mentioned your life changed overnight was that when you starred on Wednesdays yes explain that to me this Wednesdays is I got some numbers for you ready for this yeah season one got over 252 million views. Insane. In 91 days of its release.

29:56That is totally and utterly mad. It's disgusting numbers. That's a great way to put it. How many of you are watching it that many times? You went to bed pretty much with 9 ,000 followers. Three days later, you had 5 million. Yeah. That is literally overnight your life changes. It was ridiculous. And I think by the end of the two weeks I had 12 or something and it's suddenly such this like like you almost don't know how to handle it and I I think I had it easy at first because I'm I'm blonde in the show so like nobody on the street was recognizing me but online it was just like I I didn't turn off my Instagram notifications before the show came out which I did the second I woke up because my phone was just crashing.

30:49Explain to me what that is like right like what is that like waking up to something to suddenly when you go onto your Instagram what are the what are the notifications what are the DMs doing? Just like flood and floods and floods of messages and comments and and I at first was like oh it's like I can turn my phone off and I and I it's like it's not real but then you sort of subconsciously are constantly like, oh, I wonder what people are saying about this. And I wonder what somebody's messaged me. And I, I wonder if this person likes it and stuff and, and, and you can't help but deep dive. And when I, when the show first came out and, and I was just starting to look at the reactions and stuff, like I couldn't help myself.

31:33It was almost an addiction going in and like seeing what people are saying about me and reading all my Instagram comments. And, and I was having such a hard time with it. And my mom was like, you you cannot do this you can't do that you can't do it turn off your notifications like you should delete instagram for a few days and and i and i think i did that for a while i'd go into post and then i'd delete the app because i i didn't know how to handle it and it's it's such a weird right it's weird because it's like a two-way thing it's like you're getting that validation that's quite exciting it's so addicting because you're getting validate validation from this thing that you've put so much work into but at the same time it's so damaging because I think there's like everybody then starts to have an opinion of you and your work what you look like what you wear you know how you speak you know it just everything and and assuming things about you I still deal with that to this day like there's people assume so much about me I feel it's crazy and they take it as fact.

32:36Like nobody actually thinks. Like what? Just any random thing you hear about me on the internet is probably just not true. Like most things. I don't know. That's just wild to handle. It's wild. People, you know, spread rumors about my family. Explain, what do they say? Well, somebody spread a rumor that like my sister was estranged from my family because she doesn't appear in a lot of pictures with us. And it's like, I don't know, she's at law school in a different state. I haven't seen her in a few months. so totally not true but just wild stuff like that and it still happens to this day but it's like man you people know nothing they don't know anything you know what and like the fans of the show the fans of Wednesday they also believe there was a whole fan fiction that Jenner and you weren't in a platonic relationship yeah I think that there's nothing wrong with shipping characters as long as you're doing a you know you're not shipping like a 12 year old and a 50 year old you know like as long as you're you're being cool shipping characters i think it's so fun i i was what's it called shipping shipping yeah it's like a ship you know like you're like oh that that's my ship that's when you like two people together yeah that's the link that's the online that's the lingo shipping yeah i don't know is this like a gen z thing no i don't i think it's more millennial like it was a huge on tumblr before tumblr like is not a big shipping platform anymore i don't really know i think like i missed the golden age of tumblr i got on it right as it was dying but okay so so that's why so apparently in one direction it was harry styles and louis thomason they were shipped together oh my god i remember here we go i remember when that was happening and i was a huge one direction fan and i remember seeing people being like no they're together you don't understand oh my god like you're acting like you'll die if this isn't real this is crazy and like i i just think that shipping real people like it's dangerous it's so dangerous because you get into this gray area where you first of all are making people uncomfortable they feel like they can't interact anymore because of the way that people react with jen and i like don't really care that much like we we are like you know whatever we interact the way we want to interact that is interesting so it stops you interacting because you're worried about what the online dialogue would be it's more or less like i'm less worried about people shipping us and more of the fact that they harass other people who get close to one another because they want us to be together and if anybody else gets close then that's interfering with their ship wow that's the Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez effect.

35:20Yes, that whole thing. I feel like recently the... I was told that the boys from Heated Rivalry got it a lot. Really? As well. I still haven't watched that show. I haven't either. My mom has watched it and she loved it. Did she? She let me know every single evening. I need to see it because everybody raves about it. My mom was being weird about that show. Let her enjoy it. Buddy, I let her enjoy it. But I was like, don't call me up and tell me about it. I don't need to know what you're doing in your spare time. I don't know. It's just such like a, like, I don't. It's dangerous because it's unfair.

35:54It's unfair to others. And also what is hard for that online chatter, right, is you're playing a character. Exactly. That is not you. That is not Emma. Yeah, exactly. Or Jenna. So then, but the fans get confused almost. They are so desperate because they're in that world. They want it to exist. Yeah. And it's so fine if you want to ship characters. Like I, like, ship one Claire. It's cute. You love it. Like do whatever. Same thing with any other ships in Wednesday. Like I think they're so fun. That's part of shipping fandom culture, I guess. But it's sort of like, I don't know, it gets to a point where sometimes it can cross a line when you start harassing other people who are in my life, who, you know, are my genuine friends and I love hanging out with them and I want to be around them.

36:40And it's almost like if I interact with anybody who's not a part of the ships that they want me to be in, then it's, you know, it just is so much chaos. How do you handle that noise at the beginning? Probably not very well. Probably not. I didn't handle it very well. It was weird seeing my friends get called parasites and leeches for posting pictures with me. like no these are actually my good friends and I hang out with them and I I'm okay with them posting pictures of me and I just try to ignore it now like I really am barely on Instagram I'll go on to to like my friends photos and repost things but that's about it I don't really read comments anymore it's it's it like hurts me to see people in my life get harassed over this because it's like I promise anything you see of me on the internet like my friends posting pictures has all been approved by me.

37:36Everybody always checks with me first so it's not like anybody's invading my privacy or you know using me for clout which people get accused of that all the time. I genuinely love these people to death and like I am so okay if they want to post pictures with me. I'm just going to tell you I'm not using you for clout. We're friends. We're friends. It's okay. Don't come at me. Alright. You know, the Wednesday cast is stacked. It's got Jen Ortega, Catherine Zeta-Jones, Billy Piper, Christina Ritchie, Joy Sunday. What is it like being on a set like that? Oh my God. Everybody is incredible. The adults of that cast especially are so cool.

38:24Billy is incredible. Oh my God, I love her to death. And like just getting to, especially one of my first big jobs ever, getting to work with people who are that cool has been such a blessing and such a pleasure. And like Steve Buscemi, I freaked out when he got cast. Like I love Catherine. I love Steve Buscemi. Oh my God, he's the funniest ever. He's so great. He's so great in everything. He's amazing. But give me like a side of what it's like on set. Well, it depends on the day, but I really, really like when all of the kids are sort of kids, I guess we're all adults, but playing kids, are like in this giant scene.

39:14And the best times are when I don't have any lines. I'm just supposed to be seen in the background so I can goof off and do what I want. But it's so chill. Like we're shooting in Dublin again. and I know the crew because we worked with them last season and everybody's so comfortable and, you know, working with Tim is great because he's so chill. Yeah. And he kind of just lets you do what you want. And like so many people, this cast is genuinely, they've become... Your family. Some of my, yeah, it's literally my family and I love them to death. And isn't that amazing? Growing up with kind of fantasy and then being in a fantasy show.

39:54by Tim Burton. You know what I mean? It's been a dream, honestly. That is like manifestation to the nth degree. Wednesday has literally opened so many doors for me. Not only that, I've made friends for life. Jenna is the most amazing person ever. Georgie, Hunter, Musa, I love them all very dearly and they've been the best ever and it's so good getting to almost grow up with people on a job because it's been five years since we started the first one and um we've all isn't that crazy it's so crazy it's gone by so fast and we've also changed so much so much yeah if you look back at yourself then i cringe no i cringe well no don't cringe but but like you know oh bless her hi okay she He has no idea.

40:53Have you ever seen any of my old work? Because then you would cringe. Well, it's okay. Everybody, you know, everybody goes to that phase. Not my old work. Trust me, mine's not great. But what are the, because it's such a big show, like how secretive do you have to be about it? Oh, so secretive. I keep getting asked things about this new season. I'm like, I literally can't tell anything. So I was going to ask you a question. You can't tell me anything. I can't tell you anything. You can't give me anything. I can't give you anything. I'm not going to tell anyone. I know. Well, you kind of are. I can't say anything.

41:30Otherwise, I'll never be seen again. You would just disappear. Tim Burton would make you disappear. I don't think Tim would care. I think Netflix would care. But I would love to keep working with Netflix. So please don't get me fired and buried somewhere.

41:51going back to that idea of religion right you know something that's written here right is in 2019 only 22 percent of gen z believed in god but it's now jumped to 45 percent wow why do you think more young people are turning towards god that's that's a good question well that makes me very happy but also I think I think with social media is such like oh it can be really good and really bad but I think some really good aspects of it are people sharing their testimonies sharing their stories and like especially on TikTok there are people who like do who will you know do like oh do a devotional with me sort of thing or like here's my story and and I think the exposure also really like just learning that you're not alone and and maybe if you've been to a church that has made you feel alone and feel like you're not worth it and and all this stuff that there's so many people online that are like hey that's not the case this person is misrepresenting who God actually is and and this is who he is and and you shouldn't care about those other people you should focus on this instead and and I think I think that has a lot to do with it because I've definitely seen like a rise on social media totally of young people do you think it's because people want to feel connection as well because of social media we've become disconnected yeah 100 % I think like it's so weird social media is I guess started out is here's a way to connect with friends and stuff, but it kind of has just evolved into...

43:35Done the opposite. Done the opposite. And I think it's such a good thing to sort of take that back and make it more about connection and stuff. 100%. And yeah, I think that has a lot to do with it. Can I ask you a big question? What do you think happens when we die? That's, you know, that's really hard. Truthfully, what do you really think? Truthfully, well, I believe there is life after death. I do. And I believe that as long as, you know, you know God, like I believe there is life. And I think that I think really that's all that matters. You know, you having a relationship with him and. Yeah, it's hard because I I'm not the judge, jury and executioner.

44:17I can never look at somebody and say, this is what's going to happen to you when you're dead. That is not for me to decide. That's not up to me at all. And I and I never want to assume I don't know what somebody is thinking. I don't know what's going on in their personal life. I don't know what happens right before they die. You know, I think that that's such like it's such an existential question. It is hard and it's so scary. But God says, like, don't be afraid. You know, I have a quote that you said. As a child, I really wanted to be an actor. So I would lie all the time about everything. Now to make up for it, I'm overly truthful.

44:54Yeah, I was a pathological liar as a kid. I would lie about everything. Even if I didn't need to lie about it. Even if I wasn't going to get in trouble for something. Just a little thing. Literally everything. I don't know what it was. I couldn't help myself. And then it essentially got to the point where my mom was like, we will never have a good relationship if you keep lying to me about things. Did it give you a buzz? No. I almost made myself miserable lying all the time. I was like, somebody's going to find out that I lied. like girl then stop lying I don't understand what you're why you're doing but is it because you thought it would make you more exciting maybe I don't know well some of it was like I would lie about doing my math which didn't need to lie but like I always got it done in the end anyways but even little things have like oh what'd you do today oh I did this totally didn't do it I don't know I literally don't know why I would I it's more of an impulse I think I know what you mean it's again that's sort of like an adhd thing in a way i've gotten so many things i used to lie as a kid as well i used to also steal things like yeah my dad's money when i was like five what am i gonna do with that i mean yeah i i there are so many things that i did as a kid that my therapist is like well there's another thing for you to consider this could be this it's like oh great just another thing to add to it but yeah I don't even know why I did it I kind of made myself miserable by doing it was it a light bulb moment when you were diagnosed with ADHD yes so many so many things made so much sense and I'm still women by the way it's much more difficult to be diagnosed yeah it's I don't it's so frustrating that that's the case and like I there's still so many things that my therapist is like oh it's it's ADHD that I'm like no no I'm just being lazy or like no, no, because I can do this one day, but then the next day I can't.

46:54So I'm just not on that day. She's like, that's the ADHD. And it makes so much sense. And I'm so glad that I have an answer for a lot of things. Because truly, it's like my brain needs something different from other people's. And that's fine. And I just have to make sure I give myself that. It feels like, Emma, sometimes it feels like in life, you gave yourself a bit of a hard time. And it feels like now you're in a place where you're sort of, you feel confident. I am, I'd say. It's weird because I'm so insecure growing up, such an introvert. And I would still say that I'm an introvert. I just like personal time.

47:38But I also feel like I know myself so much now. And I love where I'm at in my life. I love my friends. I love the people in my life. I love my job. I'm finally at a place where I'm not miserable 24-7. And when you come from a place like that, and then you get to a place where you can kind of breathe and you see the blue sky and you're looking up. It's like I feel like I can breathe. I feel like I'm finally enjoying what I do, even though I've always enjoyed it, but I always felt like I kind of had to struggle to succeed, and that's not always the case. You know, there's a thing which is like, be careful what you wish for.

48:21Because a lot of people I've sat with opposite have wanted something so bad, whether that was to sell out stadiums as a comedian. You know, a guy called Mo Gilligan said this to me. Or actors who have wanted to reach that role and get that role. And actually what happens is when they reach it, it's almost like an anticlimax. It's not what they were expecting. What they thought they were going to get from it, they don't actually get. And what they're not really realizing is actually you've got to heal your inside first. that's external validations is not going to help you exactly I think I can enjoy my success and things that I do so much more now because I don't feel like I need other people to validate me I feel like pretty secure in myself and and yeah it's I guess it is that thing of like oh I've done this but i but i've not done this so i'm not there yet and i yeah i'll never be satisfied but i i think there's like a line there's you know you can be wanting more but still enjoy what you have and be grateful and and enjoy life you don't need to kill yourself over this this and this you know like you can you can take it easy you know not everybody's path is the same you know i i had dinner last night where my friends just launched a book and he's had an amazing story it's called knives and spoons and he basically went through like addiction and came out the side and and chefing and cooking yeah right helped him get through it it's amazing story um and i sat on a table with a guy called john who's a restauranteur he owns a lot of restaurants and he said the most amazing he's probably in his late 60s and we were taught getting quite deep because i love to like when you have those conversations yeah surface level conversation but because i the reason i love doing this is because you get to find people's stories yeah it's like the most exciting thing and he said to me if he was to if his life was to finish tomorrow and he knew it was coming he would be completely content with his life which is so good isn't that an amazing thing to get to yeah and it just made me realize that that's actually what we really want to get to in life I mean obviously like I would there's stuff that I still want to do I I have roles I still want to play I have places I still want to go see like I obviously would love to do more of it but I'm I think if I died tomorrow, I would be...

50:39You have a long way to go. Would you want to win an Oscar one day? I would love to win an Oscar. Come on, let's go. Yeah, that's a goal for sure. And can you make me a promise? Mm-hmm. When you're up on that stage and you're holding that Oscar, you will thank me. I will thank you. There we go. I'll do it. It might take me 20, 30, 40 years, but... Don't worry. I'll remember. I'll say it. Okay. Trust me. When I was five years old, I went to a hairdresser's and she said if I behaved as well as I did today, she'd give me a Kit Kat. And I went back the next time and I behaved and she didn't give me a Kit Kat.

51:12And I've never forgotten it. Well, I won't let you down.

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52:50You were in the Minecraft movie with Jack Black. Yes. Incredible. I heard you did a lot of your stunts yourself. I did, yeah. Apparently you did 90 % of them. I did every single stunt besides there's a scene where we're all getting sucked into the portal. And we all come flying out one by one. And my character hits Jason Momoa across the face and he goes flying. And that's the only stunt I didn't do because they didn't want me to be thrown directly into Jason Momoa's face. But I did everything else. And it was super fun. What is it like working with people like Jack Brack, Jason Momoa? just like a childhood dream I've grown up with the two of them and like I couldn't ask to work with any cooler people like they're so 100 % Jack Black I was just fangirling the whole time trying to keep it cool I love you so much that's what I would be like and never lose that he's the sweetest like my my rap gift from him he drew a picture of the two of us hiking a mountain and I have it like taped on my wall He did?

53:58I love it. Yeah. He's so sweet. Where were you hiking? Up the Tongari Row, which is Lord of the Rings Mordor Pass. In New Zealand? In New Zealand. Wow. Was that a big moment? Such a big moment. I was like, wow, that's really cool. Did you act anything out as you were doing it, going out there? I definitely did. I definitely did. It was me and my sister who went up and we, the whole time, were like, oh, this is where this happens. And oh, that's where that happens. and it was so cool. It's the most, I think, the most beautiful scenery I've ever seen. Yeah, I've never been. It's the one place where I really want to go.

54:34It is amazing. It took me eight hours. I got extremely sunburned, but I have never been happier. What is Jack Black like behind the scenes? Because for me, he feels like an amazing improv actor. Oh, there's no difference between Jack Black on screen and Jack Black off screen. So it's wild. He doesn't shut off. it's just like what you see is what you get are you serious which is so great because is that quite hard when you're acting alongside it because you just don't know where it's going to go what's going to happen yeah it's quite it's it's quite hard i the entire time was trying not to break so i think my miserable face on camera is me like really trying not to smile because a lot of the songs that were in the movie were in the script but I didn't know the tune or how he was going to sing them or whatever and he just started doing it and you have to be like, oh gosh, don't laugh.

55:30I'm on camera. You can't break character. Yeah, you really can't and it's hard. It's so hard. Talked about A Good Girl's Guide to Murder, season two. The episode is out right now. They're all out right now. They're all out straight away. BBC iPlayer here and then Netflix everywhere else. Great promo. Yeah. There you go. There you go. You've been... I've been conditioned. Yeah. Do you want to look down the camera and say it? Stream now. For anyone who doesn't know, can you explain A Good Girl's Guide to Murder, what it's all about? So it's based off a book series by Holly Jackson in the same name, A Good Girl's Guide to Murder.

56:07It's about a girl named Pip and she decides one day for her EPQ that she's going to do... she's going to solve a solved mystery in her town that she doesn't think they actually caught the killer. So she wants to find the true killer of this murder. And she discovers the real killer and maybe unearth some other things along the way. And so season two is kind of the continuation of that. And, you know, she's kind of unearthed some hard secrets for people around her. and she's sort of trying to juggle that well. I love how cryptic you're being. I know. Even though people have probably seen it. Yeah, Netflix are watching.

56:48Yeah, they're watching. They're always watching. But yeah, it's about... Pip is essentially a girl who takes on too much. How do you... With Pip, how do you relate to her character? Taking on too much. She's been... Explain that to me, where you take on too much. Well, I find it so hard to be relaxed if I haven't finished something I started. like I'm such a procrastinator and I will put things off but the second I start something I have to sit there and finish it until it's done otherwise I feel exactly and she's also like so annoyingly insistent and will will ask until she finds out and gets her answer and I feel like I'm that way if I don't understand something I will ask until I understand that's interesting so how much do you take so you take your own individual so if you read a part do you have to see yourself in the part no because i i like being something i'm not i think it's fun i i i love being enid i'm not like enid whatsoever besides maybe we're both a bit of an we're optimists but i i've i love being somebody I'm not but with Pip I feel I feel like I am a lot of me is her can I just say thank you so much for coming on the show today and thank you for having me sometimes I never know what to expect right where this this goes and just how open you've been how um grounded you feel like yeah I'm I'm some I'm an open book I feel it is incredible before we finish we like to do eight quick fire questions.

58:33Let's do it. Are you ready for this? I'm so ready. What's a saying or phrase that makes you smile or cheers you up? Oh, well, I've been quoting it so much, but the shark tail shrimp guy, when he goes, oh, it's fairly happy. So if somebody asks me if I'm doing okay, I've just been like fairly happy. And I love it. Yeah. I like that. Best compliment anyone's ever given you? An editor just told me yesterday that I'm very easy to edit because I'm always on, which is such a good compliment. That is a great compliment. Because there's so many shots that you do during the day and you're so tired, but you always have to be on.

59:11Professional. Yeah. Amazing. It's a great compliment. 100%. What scares you most about yourself? Oh, I get angry fast. I've got a temper. You have a temper? I have a really quick temper and then quickly I'm like, oh wait, it's fine. But I react so strong at first. My wife has that. Yeah, it's something I definitely am working on, but it's always been my default. It's just like, oh, wait, actually, it's okay. It's fine. When was the last time you cried? This morning, I took the spiciest ginger shot of my entire life that I think I died for a minute and I started crying. But if we're talking emotionally...

59:52Ginger shots can do that. Yeah, maybe last week or so. I cry a lot, I'd say. What happened?

1:00:00when I get drunk I'm like the sad drunk are you crying I cry I do okay just because like are you drinking I well I probably tequila no I was probably on I was probably on a few Guinnesses again I was not expecting that yeah you you you like you drink I do yes but also split the g I'm so bad at that. But I think, like, I love a cocktail, but I'm always so conscious because I can hear my mom being like, it turns into sugar in your bloodstream. So I can't enjoy a cocktail. But I'll drink a Guinness. Yeah. It's 80 % water. It feels a bit better. It's true. You can survive off Guinness and oranges for the rest of your life.

1:00:44Yeah. Just that. You should try it. I would. I love an orange. What's something you can't let go of? My sisters. Great answer. I'd say if there's anybody in my life that is a non-negotiable, I will not have us falling out ever. It would be them. 10 out of 10 answer. What's your guilty pleasure? Dark chocolate. Straight up. What percent are we looking at? Oh my gosh, 90. Okay, I like a 90. To the point where it's so hard for me to go without it that I give it up for Lent. Oh, you do? And it's a real struggle. Do you ever get like salt flakes in it? Yes. I love the orange or even just like a bag of chocolate chips.

1:01:28Oh, right. It's like... It's so hard for me. I found these. Do you like nuts? I do. Okay. These chocolate, dark chocolate salted almonds. Oh, no. I'm going to get you a bag and I'm going to send it to your team. Oh, please. Okay. And your team here, hopefully they'll get it to you. This will be my favorite snack ever. They are outrageous. Oh, my God. I imagine. When I, before I die, I want to be strapped down with my head open. Your mouth stuffed with oranges. Stuffed with all that. I just can't wait. What turns you off?

1:02:07Just people being rude. Yeah. I don't know. There's nothing, it takes no energy to just have basic respect for people. 100%. And in general, what turns you on? I like when people ask questions Like you're doing I don't know I like I'm with you It's the best I hate when there's You know you're awkward And you're sitting with somebody And it's like You're like asking them questions And they never ask you something about yourself Yeah And you're like Okay I'll leave you alone I completely agree When people are inquisitive When people are interested Yeah of course 100 % What do you like most about yourself?

1:02:45My character I think I yeah I like my personality bonus what would your death row meal be? oh probably a giant stack of pancakes I'm a huge pancake fan I think they're massively underrated but in the UK especially yes American pancakes okay chocolate chip little thing of whipped cream on top okay I would eat half of them warm and then I'd refrigerate the other half and then eat them the other half cold because I like when the chocolate chips are a bit hard. Will you have maple syrup? On the side though so I can dip it in if I want to. Any bacon? Maybe one or two pieces on the side. Okay, that's great.

1:03:31Thank you so much. Thank you so much. You've been incredible. You're a fantastic company. Good luck with everything. Thank you very much. Don't forget me at the Oscars. No, I'm going to thank you. Okay. I will not forget that. I promise you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

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