HARRY HILL: WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE SILLY

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2:08Hello everyone, my name is Jamie Lang and this is Great Company.

2:17Kablam! Is that how you want to begin? Yeah. Okay, kablam. Hello, producer Jemila. Hello, Jamie Lang. How are you? I'm well. And yourself? Fantastic. By the way, you are listening to Great Company Podcast. I am the host, Jamie Lang. And I'm the producer, Jemima. Why did you forget your name, Nilly? I don't know. It's one of those days. I am, by the way, so excited for this episode. What's funny about this episode, okay, is that I've been a fan of this person for so long. Sorry that I'm just jumping straight in. You go for it. I just am really excited. It's like, this is my childhood all in one room today, which is going to be amazing.

2:54Do you want to say who it is? Oh, yeah. The funny thing about this, unless they've just randomly clicked on this, they know. They do know. They do know. They do know. But say it anyway. Harry. He who must not be named. Voldemort. Harry. I'm into being Voldemort. Harry Hill. Harry Hill. What did you watch him on? I think I watched him on You Being Framed. I think I watched him on TV Burp. I think it was. I just grew up with Harry Hill in my house. He is a big deal. How deep do you think he's going to go today? I really don't know. Comedians tend to hold back on that quite a lot Yes So You can give it a go But I think it will be He'll be quite light hearted Can I ask you a question If I start to go deep Uh huh And there's resistance What do I do?

3:40Just take a beat Give him a second To decide if they're going to do it But I think You're pretty good at reading people's body language I think you'll know If he does or doesn't I don't think Comedians are notoriously quite hard to open up Because they lead with humour Yeah And humour covers Everything Everything. Yeah. When you said there, take a beat, I thought you meant as in drop a beat. Oh, you could do that, but that would, if you're trying to get someone to open up and then you start, go on, drop a beat now. I'm not going to do it. What does that mean to you? Drop a beat. I'm not going to do it.

4:11I'm not going to do it. Wow. I am not going to do it. Okay. Hey, you know, when you're interviewing someone, how does that feel when you're in, like, are you like really in the zone or do you, cause you're having to think about like next questions. Great question. Well, what I used to do was I used to think about the next question. So I wasn't quite paying attention to what someone was saying. However, in this new podcast, Great Company, I try and not do that because I know you're there in case something happens. So I have a safety net. So I try and be in it with them. as if I have no prep, as if I don't have any research, as if I'm just being a person listening into what they have to talk about.

4:51So with all of them, I know kind of what I want to say and ask, but I also just try and really be in it rather than thinking about the next question. If you think about the next question, then you end up asking the wrong question. And do you get nervous? A little bit. Are you going to make me nervous today? Is that what you're saying? No, I'm just curious. Well, we're going to find out. We are going to find out. Before we start, I do want to say that if you haven't subscribed to this podcast, Do it. Please do. And also share it to anyone if you enjoy the episode. It would be amazing. Yeah, and you will enjoy this one.

5:22I can't wait. Are you ready for this? I'm really excited. Please enjoy the episode of Great Company with Harry Hill. I've given you an intro before. That's the bit I don't like about your podcast. Who are you talking to when you do that? My producer. Because I want to get on with it. I just want, when I'm listening. Sorry, Jemima.

5:43Hi, I'm Harry Hill and I'm great company. Why don't we do a television show together? Yeah, what would we... I've had this idea for a TV show, which I think is great, but I can't get anyone interested in it. I don't know why, because it's very cheap. Basically, this is the... I'm pitching this to you now. Okay, great. So I'm in the back of a van, transit van. I already love it. I already love it. We arrive at a designated place. It could be, you know, Blue Water Shopping Center, fleet services off the M3, you know, a place where there are people, you know, I don't know. Yeah. And I burst out of the doors and I'm in the outfit and I walk around and I go up to someone and they say, oh, hi, what's your name?

6:33And they say, oh, my name is Sarah. What are you doing, Sarah? Oh, I'm just getting some, you know, sun lotion because I'm going on holiday next week. And I say, mind if I spend the day with you? Okay. And then I follow them around for the whole day. And I go back to their house, right? Okay. And then at the end of midnight, I come out of the house with camera crew waiting. So this is all filmed, obviously. You turn into a pumpkin. No, I come out, I walk down there and I do a rap, which is a rap of the highlights of what happened. It's called I'm Coming to Your House. I, I, I, hey, let's break it down.

7:20Strangers, interesting. Everyone's got a story. Everyone's got a story. We're all storytellers. Location, quite fun. Going into someone's house, great, because you see their lives. Nosiness. Nosiness. rap to end it great yeah the only difficulty with it is what if they've got like a bad past a very criminal record you go around the house and there's like a dead body or something but then it turns into an awesome documentary that you sell to Netflix yeah what are you calling it again I'm calling it I'm coming to your house it sounds threatening the way I said it then it sounded threatening it sounded why did it sound so threatening it's like you know that David Also, the whole pitch.

8:03I think when you're going wrong, I'm in the back of a van. I'm in the back of a van. It shouldn't be a van. It should be a Rolls Royce or it should be a family car. I'm in the back of a van. I meet a stranger. I go to the van. Yeah, it's horrible. There's a mattress. There's no mattress in the back of a van. That's your mind. There's no gaffer tape or bin liners. Sounds like it. There's no vat. There are no cameras until the very end when I walk in the house. There's no 10-gallon vat of acid waiting for me in my shed at home and a shovel and a trip to B &Q. That's you. That's your mind. Yeah. Everybody's coming to my house.

8:42You know that song? No, you sing it. I like it. Just the David Byrne thing. Everybody's coming to my house and I'm never going to be alone. And that would mean maybe if we got permission, that would be the theme. I've thought it through. I can tell. I might just do it anyway. Can you rap? I mean, you wouldn't go for me for my rapping skills. It will be on my obituary. But if you can. The rapper, the sad news in today, the world of comedy is mourning. The prominent comedian and rapper Harry Hill has been found dead in the back of a van on the M3. where unfortunately he was filming the pilot of a show called I'm Coming to Your House.

9:36Who is it? I had on my podcast the other day. Do you know Rasheen Conaty? Yeah, yeah. She should get her on this. She's so good. No, we haven't. She's so funny. She's so funny. She said when she was a five-year-old, she used to do this voice to scare her three-year-old sister, which was she'd talk while she was breathing in. She said she'd go, I'm coming to your house. I'm coming to your house. It's actually a really good device, isn't it? I always think that whispering is threatening. So if I was to say to you, I like your children, sounds fine. But if I was to say, I like your children, it makes it much worse.

10:17Yeah. Yeah. Can you wrap the highlights of this show that we've had together? There were highlights. Big highlights. That's news to me. No. Well, I mean, actually. I don't like your show then. You raise a good point. In fact, what we would do is we would come back and film that. So we'd trick it. It's trickery. I think so because. That's clever. Unless we got, maybe we'd have a wrap, maybe get Tideon a tiny temper to come along. he'd be in the van too, observing on a monitor. He'd be writing, yeah, okay, yeah, so they're going to, oh, yeah, she's buying some sunscreen. I bought some sunscreen from Superdrug.

11:02I went home and crushed a bug accidentally. I don't know. You know, it's not my forte. We get Tiny in. He's at a loose end. He's doing that property show. What's he doing that property show for? Tiny, come on. Where's the They've done some tracks man Or whatever Some vibes Why is he doing The property show Yeah What's he doing Going around people's houses That's your thing That's my thing He stole it Maybe Maybe What you should do is this You shouldn't be normal people Maybe it should be celebrities Well that's what the channel would say Isn't it I'm the channel You're putting your I'm putting my channel My channel forehead on Yeah Well that would be more So you jump out That's the difference between you and me You see because you see things more clearly in a commercial way.

11:52Well, because I think people are... I think people are bored of celebrities. I think there's fatigue, for sure. I do think there's fatigue. But I think that surprising... What will happen when everyone's fed up with celebrities, Jamie? What will we do? Who will we do? Do you know... This is going to... This might interest you. Do you know how you tell if someone's famous? If you recognize them. Yeah, but even more so. So they believe that the word famous comes from the Greek god Famio. Right. Famio was this god. Sounds like one of the gladiators. It was a gladiator. Rhino, Famio. And what are the other ones?

12:44Famio was this Greek god. Do you remember Wolf? Yeah, I wouldn't see, never forgotten. Unbelievable. That hair, Christ. Used to rip. Yeah. Go into a hairdresser's and ask for that. I want the wolf. Yeah. But the, Femio was this Greek god that was small and used to follow you. And you would, if you spoke about Femio, the bigger Femio got. So Femio was the god of gossip. Brilliant. I love that yeah so if you're famous you have to be gossiped about oh yeah you like that don't you like that that's turned your whole opinion on me now you're thinking no I came with it you're right I came with an opinion that was turned on its head as soon as I walked that was the books just the books I mean this is a learned man with so many books and yeah you buy them by the killer crap Can we have two and a half hundred books, please?

13:49Yeah, any colours. Well, you've got colours, we'll put some blue ones on one shelf.

13:57Why did you hate being a doctor? Oh, gosh, how long have we got? I've got all day. And I can sit here, I'm not kidding, I think I can sit here all day with you. I'm enjoying every second of this. What it was, was, was. Don't you hate people who go, what it is, is? What it is, is, what it was, was, was that I, I liked the, I was interested in the course, right? You know, it was the actual medical courses was once you got onto the wards, the patients and all that. Yeah. That was really interesting because you were, you were there and there were like people who were really ill, who were, you know, who you might watch being saved or you'd go and see an operation on someone's heart and there'd be a heart beating.

14:44you know, just in a kind of, in a way of kind of extremes. And you'd see people, you know, I delivered 10 babies. Where? Well, they come out of, oh, Hereford mainly, is the fact. They come out of Hereford. That's not a nickname. No, I did my obstetrics in Hereford General Hospital. Yeah. And you had to deliver 10 to pass the course. And so it was all really competitive. to get the, you heard like a woman had gone into labor. Okay, I'll go and she had to go and befriend her a bit. Say, oh, I'm, you know, you always said, you didn't say I was a medical student. You say, oh, I'm a young doctor and I need to, you know, I'd love to help you out.

15:28You know, yeah, okay. That's amazing. There's this one terrible thing I had this. And so you'd spend a lot of time with the couple. Okay, so you'd be there for hours and hours and hours waiting for this moment that you could get it and you could sign it off tick. You've got the midwife to sign your little book, right? Like you're in the brownies and you're getting the badgers. Exactly. And there was this couple from Birmingham and she was in labor and, you know, I'm sitting there chatting away to them. We get on really well. I'm bonding with them. And they think I'm a young doctor with a white coat on, you know, tie, stethoscope.

16:07And then she goes into labor properly and she's got the gas in air. So they absolutely trust me. This is the guy who's going to deliver their baby. She gets the gas in air. She's on the gas in air. All this. You know, the nitrous oxide. And if you take too much of that, basically you stop breathing. But you stop breathing momentarily. It's like hyperventilating. You just start again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one dies. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know that, unfortunately. So she goes, and I go, and her husband goes, what's that mean to her? She's dying. She's dying. And I thought, Jesus, she's dying. And I run out into the corridor and I shout, help.

16:56You're a doctor. I'm the doctor. You're the doctor. And after that, the trusted God. You can't do that. It's like an Stuart screaming help on flights. I know. I know. I said, they lost confidence in me somewhat. You didn't run all the room and shuffled. I thought, Christ, this is going to be on me. She's dying. How old are you? Yeah. I can't get over. I know. It was, and I came back and they were looking at me like, who are you? She was then breathing again. Yeah, she's fine. Yeah, she was just like breathing. She's like, what happened? Yeah, it was awful. So what did you do then, Retire? Well, I was very sort of.

17:47Right. Right. Forget about that, everyone. So looking at my shoes and sort of just really embarrassed. Running out the room and screaming. Yeah. Another time I turned round, you know, this lady, she's in labour. Because babies just deliver themselves. You don't really need anyone to deliver them. You know, it's just that. And I turned round. I was sort of talking to someone. I turned round, the baby has come up. So I'm like, I've got to get my hands on the baby because otherwise I won't get the tick. I mean, they didn't push it back up, but it was one of those things. So all that was. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

18:26I actually did that. No, that was me. That was me. You saw me. I was there. Help. Yeah, that was a low point. But so that was fun, you know. How old were you when? Well, you know, you. How old were you when you stopped then being a doctor? Well, I qualified in 88. Year I was born. So I was 20. Was it? No, you're joking. You're my man. Oh, 20. I was 23, you know, because I started when I was 18, five years. Then I worked for two years full time. And then I worked for, then I gave it up. So I went to see my consultant. He asked me in for a careers chat. And he said, what do you want to do? And I said, I don't know, sir.

19:17And he said, okay, all right. Well, you know, is it cardiology or respiratory? And I said, I think I want to be a comedian. and he said oh right yeah you don't know do you and after that he sort of no one ever asked me again i didn't he just lost interest in me i know it didn't apply for a job he used to apply for jobs every six months i don't know if it's still the same and so that's why we were all you had to keep your nose clean because you had to it was all about the reference as soon as you started you had to get that you're applying for your next job version so it was the the reason i didn't enjoy it It was once you qualified, you then had the responsibility.

19:55So it was long hours. Okay, fine. We were treated very badly, our generation. So, you know, you do a one in two. So I would start work. For instance, if I was a weekend on call, I'd start Friday morning and I'd finish Monday evening. Yeah. Get out of here. Yeah. So you would get some sleep. You'd be on call. So you'd get some sleep. So like maybe - Exhausted. Yeah. Yeah, it was awful. I feel like being exhausted when you're trying to save lives is not a good combo. Yeah. I don't think it actually, to be fair, ever affected, because the adrenaline would kick in. But there was a kind of Damascus moment, a moment which kind of crystallized it in my mind.

20:39And I was on, so I was on the crash team, which was the cardiac arrest team. So, you know, you'd go to bed at midnight and you'd be woken up, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, you know, three in the morning or something. and you just like fall out of bed and you, I would run across the car park to the ward, you know, we had like a, because you were sleeping in your car.

21:04Yeah. Try it. There were tough times. It was like a, it was an accommodation, but you know, I think they've changed that now. I don't think you can, I think you have to pay now if you're an on-call doctor to stay. It was a, um, like a building that you would, it was like a, you know, it was accommodation, emergency, accommodation for people who were on call. Sure. And it was like a tiny box room with a sink in one corner and toilet and bath down the hall. So I'm running across the car park at three in the morning and I'm thinking to myself, I hope when I got there, they've already died. And that's, I'm afraid, it's an awful admission.

21:42but my logic you know at that moment was if I manage to save them that'll be it'll take me an hour and a half to do all the paperwork the x-rays the blood tests to stabilize them but if I get there and they're dead I will have to do a sign the death certificate wow that's so interesting and that is not what I said when I went in for my interview But that's how I changed it. And I felt very guilty about that. And I had a lot of feelings like that. I felt very guilty about it. But actually, then when I talked to other junior doctors. I don't think, no. Well, I'll tell you why. Because medicine is seen as a vocation, as a calling.

22:25You know, it's a kind of a traditional way, particularly back then. It's less so now. People see it more of a job as more of a job now. But then it was more of a kind of, you know, well, like I say, a calling or, you know, one of the professions, wasn't it? You know, a doctor, a lawyer, a teacher, an astronaut. But then when I talked to my other friends - So it seemed like it was a privilege almost to - No, no, no, no, no, not that. It was about your dedication. Either you always put your patient first. I mean, people talk about the Hippocratic Oath. I mean, there is no – well, no one ever takes an oath or anything.

23:07It's sort of – I don't know where that's sort of a popular myth. But I certainly didn't. But then when I talked to my friends about it, they all had exactly the same feelings. Not all the time. So the next day I'd be – and actually when I got there, I did my best to bring that person back. But I'm just saying that in that moment, and I thought as I was running, I was thinking this isn't good. So you then, you decide, you say to... I never, I didn't do like a... I didn't kill anyone just to get back to bed. Can I make that quite clear? For the record. I think with comedy, right? Back in the day with comedy, back in the day with comedy, it was like you would go on Live at the Apollo or you'd do 8 out of 10 Cats or you would do...

23:56Yeah, but that's not back in my day. That's back in your day. I mean... Oh, you're older than me? I did not realise I thought we were the same age I'm slightly older than you You're what? Get out of here I can't I just have a really good moisturising regime So back in your day in 1942 It was much more straightforward Just after the war Just after the D-Day landings

24:27What used to happen was When you were rationing The career structure. It was a bit like, you know, if you wanted to get in the civil service, it was like you went to Oxford. Yeah. You know, what is it? Sandhurst, Oxford, the guards or whatever. So with comedy, it used to be that you would do the circuit, you know, so you do the London circuit, do the clubs. And no TV people ever went to any comedy clubs. And then you do the Edinburgh Festival. They all went. So all the people, all the comedians from London would go to the Edinburgh Festival and all the TV people who lived in London went to the Edinburgh Festival.

25:02Why they couldn't have sort of met in the middle and gone to somewhere, you know, like Birmingham or something. Anyway, and... That's so true. It's true. It's actually so... It's factually correct. It's factually so correct. Yeah. Why couldn't you meet a Milton Keynes? Well, places like the Soho Theatre, they have sort of solved that in a way. The people, they do go and see those. I don't know, there's something about... They didn't want to go to smoky pubs, you know, rooms above pubs. I don't know what it was. Anyway, you would go there. If you had a good Edinburgh, you'd maybe get nominated for this thing called the Perrier Award.

25:38It's got a different name now, sort of. Well, you may know about that. As I tee you up. Good interviewing here. This is really good. This is some of the best interviewing. This is good shit. In the podosphere. and if you got a good that would be you get nominated if you got nominated you'd get a pilot for Channel 4 pretty much it's not easy but it would be it's tough to be nominated yeah of course but if you did you'd probably get a pilot for you know Channel 4 or BBC 2 or something because you won no I didn't win the main one you won Best Newcomer Yeah. Which is a big, which is the Perrier Award.

26:25There was no best newcomer until me. I'm the original newcomer. Are you serious? There was just one award, right? So this is funny. I mean, I don't know. There was one award. It was just a Perrier Award, which is every, you know, all the comedians are all obsessed with it. I don't know if we all were, but I certainly wasn't, everyone I knew. And so we would, so you'd meet in this bar. It was called The Gilded Ballooners, The Late Night. All the comedians really drunk. Okay, really drunk and really angry. You know, you see this review and, you know, oh, did you hear about so-and-so? Only four people came in.

27:04You know, it was all this. I mean, it was great fun, really good fun. And there was the Perrier Award and you would get nominated. So the year I got that Best Newcomer, it was Steve Coogan. I was just, because in 92. Very well researched. Don't worry, Jemima just wrote it on the iPad. How does that work? She's controlling you. She's controlling me. I'm actually AI. What is that program? You share a document, the power behind the throne. She just wrote, hello, Harry. Hello, Jemima.

27:41Yeah, so. How are you, she's asking. Fine, how are you? What are you doing, Ata? Was it 92? Yeah, yeah. Steve Coogan got the prize. I can't remember who else was nominated, but it was a really good, I mean, they're like household names, all those people that were on that list. And so they said, and there was this ceremony. I was like no one. And there was this sort of award ceremony, which I wasn't invited, you know, I hadn't been invited to. And then my agent came and found me and said, this is on the day of it. So you, but you, you had an agent? I hadn't just had an agent. Yeah, I had an agent.

28:16What was the secret agent? Who was the agent?

28:21We don't mention his name. He said, there's a message. They want you to go to the Perrier party. I said, why? And he said, well, because there may be some information of some benefit to you. It was really cryptic. That's how it was pitched. Yeah, it was cryptic. So I went completely unprepared. And so Coogan picks up the award. And then the guy goes, and we're awarding a special award because he's tried so hard, or, you know, I don't know what it was. Harry Hill. And I thought, geez, wow. And I went up, and it was a real thrill. It was a thrill more than anything because it was a total surprise.

29:07So I had no expectation. You know, you've been up for awards, have you? Okay, we move on. This is an award winning podcast I feel it You can just sometimes feel like This chemistry you can't fake But I tell you just quickly Do you know the most embarrassing moment of my life? I think not my life But one of the big embarrassing moments That must be quite a long list It's a really long list It's really long Let's take the top ten Made in Chelsea Made in Chelsea I won a BAFTA

29:50I'm so sorry Harry you won't believe this I won a BAFTA no undeservedly so thank you very much I appreciate it what was that for? best newcomer my agent phoned me up and they were quite cryptic just turn up no we a children's BAFTA We had the BAFTAs Or a Welsh BAFTA was it It wasn't like a proper one I made it with my family I know You know my family are big fans Of Made in Chelsea And you are And I am on the fence still You know what I believe about Made in Chelsea I think it's actually some of the best acting on TV Best improv I agree Best improv and best acting It's better than EastEnders Sometimes No it is I think you're You're a really good And I don't know Do you ever go into acting You lot Sorry No you lot Yeah I I'll tell you this I just want to say this BAFTA thing Because I want to hear Sorry let's hear the BAFTA thing I want to hear It's your podcast Not mine We'll talk about that When you come to my podcast I can't And also Are we there yet Are we there yet Are we there yet Yeah the first The world's first family friendly podcast.

31:14Lee, when we were in the BAFTA, so we got nominated for a BAFTA for, it was script, what was it? Scripted Entertainment or Best. Oh, it's written here. Best None Scripted. Reality Instructured Factual. Oh, okay. That's a new category. It wasn't. It's a really prestigious one. I think that's when I returned my BAFTAs. That's a really prestigious one. This is the one everyone wanted. Coogan, everyone wanted this one. And we were sitting there. Yeah. And the nominations came up and it was Holly Willoughby. And she said, and the winner goes to Made in Chelsea. We all got up. We screamed. Oh, my God.

31:51I walked onto stage and I was so excited. And I held this battle. I looked into the audience and I saw Olivia Colman and Benedict Cumpatch and all these incredible people. And I suddenly realized, shit, this is embarrassing. Oh, no. That's not true. I swear to God. You shouldn't be. I promise you, it was suddenly a realisation that we were standing on stage and these people had, these actors and comedians and things like that. I would love, I'd love that because they, because they're probably not necessarily those two, but some people would be feeling that. And that's quite funny. And that actually tells you everything you need to know about awards.

32:28It's, you don't need awards. It's the. I don't know. I need them. Well, it's nice the first time, but this comes back to this thing of expectation. So I went to that award ceremony with no expectation. The worst thing is when you go to award ceremonies as a nominee, and so you go there as a sort of winner, everyone's, you know, beforehand they're all glad handing you. Oh, yeah, you know, Harry, blah, blah, blah. And then you don't win because only one person can win and you come back a failure. You feel like a failure even though you've done really, you know, it's an odd. Yeah, it's an odd feeling.

32:59You've got to take the rough with the smooth.

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34:46How important is it in life to be silly? I think it's important to retain a playfulness. You think you've got to try and retain that. You know, that gets knocked out of us as kids. If you get, you know. You get two kids together, they just start playing, they're mucking about, you know. And that does get knocked out of you as you get older because you get responsibilities, you get worn down. And it's important to try and retain some of that. And I think maybe sort of possibly what people like about me is that they don't have to do it themselves. They just see me doing it. me being silly and you know being i've realized this being an adult is is exhausting and and when my parents used to say to me when i was younger these are the best years of your life i surely they're not and they're not childhood yeah they said these are the best years of your life and i was like that can't be true in some ways it is in some ways it is because like you said you are our naivety is ruined by experience yeah hormones and experience yeah that's literally what it is right and there's always something that's why Peter Pan kicks ass you got him on as well yeah I got him on next so Peter tell me what was your relationship with that dog your nanny that was weird wasn't it the nanny was a dog was it a dog it was called nanny was it actually was it actually a Norlands trained dog that was weird it was weird yeah I just thought of that

36:29It actually is weird Why was the nanny the dog? Yeah, I don't know What would it do? I don't know You're getting this ready You're getting this ready You sound like Chewbacca It's like fish fingers That's why I like doing Junior Bake Off Because the kids are so funny And also it's I get over it. It's funny with them. It's nice that they're other people's kids as well. So they go home at the end of the day. You haven't got to, you know. Podcasting. Your podcast is very funny. Thank you, Jamie. That means a lot. Coming from you. You've got the approval. There you go. You can now leave. Well, you know, I'm very late to the game.

37:18You just told me earlier that you'd done it for eight years or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm a bit late to the game and I thought, well, I don't want to do something just for the sake of it. I want to, unless I've got an idea, which I think might have legs. And it was just really making it kind of funny, but family friendly because a lot of. That's what's brilliant about it. Because it's called Are We There Yet? And it's very good. And I listened to it because you have all these clever jingles and you say it's a podcast for the family. Yeah, it's the first family friendly podcast designed to get you from A to B.

37:50So the idea is you're in the car. Is that the tagline? Yeah, I've learnt it. You've learnt it? Well done. And the idea is you're in the car, maybe, with the kids. It doesn't mean you have to be in a family to listen to it. I mean, all my stuff is clean. I never, you know, I never swore on TV. I mean, I was a tea time entertainer. You did, because everything is family friendly, isn't it? Always. Yeah. When I first started, I did swear on stage, but it didn't sound right coming from me. Yeah. Can you swear now? No, I'm not going to try and improve your ratings by giving you an exclusive Dirty Boy.

38:36I swear a lot in private and I like, you know, I don't, I'm not a prude, so I like comics. I haven't got a problem with swearing at all. I mean, sometimes it's the best way. You were doing TV back and you were voicing you being framed. Yeah, yeah. You were taking over television. Yeah, it was like a double bill. Yeah. I think if you didn't like Harry Hill, that was a very difficult time for you. And there are those people. But would you, is this, is it? It was a very dark period for those people. I hated that period of television. But you had this iconic image, right? Yeah, it was just luck, you know, with the big collar.

39:21The bald head is nature. You know, the glasses, okay. I found glasses that were, you know, distinctive. I mean, everyone wears glasses like this now, but actually when I wore them, it was sort of a decision, you know. And then with the big collar, I just, you know, I mean, I just had a shirt with a big collar because I used to buy my stuff from Oxford. And in the 80s, 90s, the shirts that you bought were from the 70s or 80s. And you just, you felt like it looked funny. People would say to me, oh, that's good. You know, that big collar thing. Really? Yeah, yeah. So that, and that's, it's the old adage.

39:58And, you know, if you ever do go back to stand up. I will. It's about, if it works, keep it in. Yeah. And this is a weird question, but it's like a uniform, right? Because you put your uniform on. Yeah. And you go to work. Yeah. And then when you take it off. I don't have to make a decision. I always think like, you know, if you're Alan Davis or, I don't know, Jack Whitehall or something, you've got to choose a suit or you've got to choose a tie. What am I going to wear on my feet? I don't have that decision. I just, boom, there it is. A whole rack of them.

40:31130 big collar shirts. Which one shall I wear? Always white? Well, I've got a few colors. I've tried with, you know, when I do junior bake-off and they were keen for me to be a bit more brightly colored for the children. so I've got some like you know a red one a pink one and a brown one but when you also an advantage because when you then take off your uniform you become less recognisable exactly it's brilliant also you know you can divide your life up not just for tax purposes but you but you can divide your life up so you have your you know real friends who call you Matthew he's revealed it Matthew is that the headline that we're going to get there is it Harry Hill is not called Harry Hill.

41:17And then there's the other people, like yourself. No, I wanted to call you Matthew, and you said no. We're not there yet. Okay, fine. So what are we just podcast friends? I'm not a real friend. This is a transactional. So when I save your number, do I have to put it as Harry Hill? Just put big collar. So, yeah, it is good, and it's good to have that divide. I mean, it's, you know, it's a funny thing. I do think of myself as Harry Hill. I mean, it's because I've been doing it for so long. I don't, you know, and sometimes if I'm, I don't know, I might be on my way to a gig and I might say to myself, come on, Harry.

41:55Or, you know, I might, you know, I do refer to myself. Yeah. Is it easier to almost play a character in a way? Because then you can turn that off and turn it on rather than actually living in that existence. Because that's quite exhausting, maybe. Yeah. I mean, I know comics like that who seem to be always on. I mean, I think if you want to be a comedian, you don't really have any choice about what kind of comic you're going to be. It just emerges. You know, when I started, I wanted to be a deadpan comic. I was a fan of Jack D and Stuart Lee and Arnold Brown, people like that. So when I first started, I was sort of doing an impression of them.

42:37So I had good jokes. So they would get laughs, but it was like me. it wasn't really me it was what i you know and that's quite common when comics they sort of do the person they like and that is why and then you have to find your own identity i think gradually you you hopefully you if you stick at it long enough you'll find the thing yeah that's a big you know a lot of being funny is not about i mean i don't know what the percentage is maybe 80 % of it is about you, not about your material. It's about your confidence and your funniness. Has anyone ever tried to do you? I have seen. I was on a bill.

43:22Someone turns off with big collared glasses. That looks familiar. No, not that. But I have been on a bill, and I was on a bill with this guy, and I'm thinking, you're doing, this is me. You're doing like me. I thought, wow. You ran off stage, you're doing me. I thought, wow, you're doing me in front of me and I'm me. I was thinking, God, it's hard enough to do it and I'm me. And you're doing me. Everyone knows I'm here. It's like, yeah, it was funny. But I was thinking, it's not helping you. I've done stand-up comedy before. I did it as a, I both were charity gigs. Yeah. And I did it at the comedy store.

44:10Wow, that's into the deep end. 300 people. First one I did, I... But they knew you were Jamie Lang, some of them. Yeah, they knew it because I wore a t-shirt for the first gig saying, as seen on E4. Okay. Quite funny. Yeah. Like that? Yeah. Well, you know. I think that's funny. I got approval from you. That's good. I did the first gig and I... It's not going to get you out of jail, that T-shirt, is it? I did the first... I was so nervous. I did the first gig. Yeah. And... What was your opening line?

44:44I can't remember. I made a... I tell you what I did. I made a very funny joke, which I thought was a funny joke, and I'll give it to you, really. So you can use this if you want. Thank you, yeah. Don't worry. You can use this. I said... Wait till I tell all my comedian friends. You never guessed who's writing for me now. Jamie Lang. Who? you know from E4 you can tell Shuttleworth very well remembered yeah that's called that's called a callback yeah there you go now you're thinking it's there the bare bones are there what did I say I said I I made it I can't remember my joke but anyway the first I just told stories oh okay and I told stories and because I think I would say that I'm an okay storyteller so I told funny stories.

45:36It's important to believe in yourself. Yeah. And they loved it. Oh, okay. This is the twist I hadn't expected. And I walked off stage and I was like, I am Harry Hill. Yeah. Yeah. I can do this. So I did my second one and I thought, well, I'm a comedian now, so I'm going to write jokes. Yeah. It was so bad. and the audience would just look to me in this weird way quite rightly and I was like, oh my God, this is not going well. And so what I did then was I wanted to get through my 10 minutes as quickly as I could. Yeah, well, that's another mistake. 10 minutes is a long time. It was so long. There was a joke that was coming up which was about having sex and I realised it wasn't going to land.

46:20So I mumbled the punchline and someone in the front row said, say it again. because I didn't hear it. So I had to repeat it. Yeah. Well, you see how the control has moved. You're no longer in control. They are. But, Harry, I didn't realise that someone could say you could lose the rule. I didn't understand that. But for anyone who hasn't done it, can you describe what is it like? Well, people have, you know, people have done it in a way probably. They'd have to do a speech at an office party or, you know, a conference or something. And, you know, you can just feel it, can't you? You just feel it go.

47:01And, you know, those first few moments are so important for a comic because they make their mind up so quickly. And, you know, if you haven't got them, you've got to do a lot of work to get them. What do you do if you realise you've lost the room? Well, there's two things you're supposed to do, and it's very difficult. I mean, it sort of amuses me. It must be a regular occurrence for you. it amuses me now if it's not going particularly well does it really yeah i kind of have a slightly out-of-body experience because actually those ones that are the bad ones are the you get better stories from you know because no one wants to hear you say oh yeah stormed it again last night you know it's just some boring success is boring and there's another so you you lean into the awkwardness you almost enjoy it uh i think yeah yeah because you have to get if you're if it's not going to be a great gig then who's all you can get out of it is something for yourself i mean i i look on gigs really as for me yeah this is about you the audience are in you know i think what am i going to get out of it you know you have to sort of have a like a goal and and usually that's a you know i'm trying out a new bit or a new gag.

48:15But coming, what was your, you asked me a different question when I went off on one. Well, when I said that how, when you lose the room, what do you do? Oh, yeah. So what you should do is slow down, not speed up. Because speeding up, they're less likely to hear it. They sense your panic. As soon as they see fear, it's up. The game's up. Yeah, yeah. And you think they can sense it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's animalistic. Yeah, it's just like, well, you've been in an audience probably where a comic's been struggling. Yeah. When I started, I'd be on the bill and it'd be like four comics and a compere or something.

48:59It's always someone would die. I mean, die, die, you know, like silence. I mean, you don't tend to get heckled off. This idea, you know, this kind of popular idea of hecklers. Oh, you know, get off. Or, you know, there'd be some smart heckle. I mean, I don't think I've ever had a smart heckle. I mean, I've been heckled off before. You've been heckled off before? Yeah. The best one was it was a benefit for sick kids. It was a benefit for sick kids. And this guy goes, get off. They have a low growl. Get off. Right? And then another one. Quite aggressive. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, I know. I think, oh, hang on, I'm not getting paid here.

49:41This is raising money to save children's lives. Is that what you said on stage? Hang on, I'm not being paid here. No, no, I said, he goes, get off. And then another guy joins him, says, yeah, you're shit. You're shit. And I go, oh. I say, oh, heckled off at a benefit for sick kids. I said, that's what I'm going to call my autobiography. And I had done about the. I quite like that. And I had done about the time. So I thought, well, yeah, okay, fair enough. I mean, you know, I'm thinking I'm not getting paid. You know, I couldn't turn it. I didn't have the energy to bother to try and turn it around.

50:23You know, the best person at that was, that I've seen is Sean Locke. You know, our old friend who died. Not your friend, but mine. Did you ever meet him? Oh, my God. I did I was very lucky to 8 out of 10 cats a couple times I did Countdown as well and I did it with Sean Locke yeah how did he treat you? he could be like scum and I liked him even more for it and do you know what's so funny what was so brilliant and I kid you not this is how amazing it was we did 8 out of 10 cats that's funny we did 8 out of 10 cats yeah the next and we spent I don't know five, six hours together. The next night.

51:07Yeah, because you're there all day. Yeah, the next night I met him outside the Groucho Club in Soho. Right. And I went, Sean, and he went, oh, come on, we can have a photo. And I was like, no, I was with you. I was with you last night. He didn't even recognise you. He didn't recognise me. It was literally like 12 hours later, didn't recognise you. I said to him, because I did it, I only did it a couple of times because he said, oh, why don't you come on? Because, you know, this is when he was not very well, and it was just a sort of chance to hang around with him. And I said, Sean, I said, I've noticed that when the other comedians are doing the, you know, that dictionary corner thing, which is often like new comedians getting a little five-minute bit, I said, you don't laugh at them if you don't find them funny.

51:59I said, you know, and it kind of looks a bit awkward. I said, you know, it wouldn't hurt just to laugh. And he goes, I don't want to encourage them. And that was sort of his. So good. Yeah. It was like he wasn't, I mean, he was interested in what people thought, I guess, but not to that extent. Not like me when I'm thinking, how do I look? You know, I'll laugh. Yeah. Where do you want me to laugh? Which camera do you want me to laugh down? I'll do that. I'll do that. So eager to please. Yeah. I'll do that. It's unusual in a comic because most of us are kind of at heart people pleasers. When he died, I mean, I think for many of you guys who are such good friends with him, that was pretty tough, wasn't it?

52:47Well, yeah. I mean, this is the reality of getting older, unfortunately. Someone said to me the other day that it's the dull people that die. No, it's the interesting people that die and you're left with the dull people, which is like a really awful prospect, isn't it? I mean, obviously that's not true. Yeah, it was awful. I mean, he was, you know, he was unwell for a long time and he kept it hidden and was very kind of funny about it, you know, in a way. You know, I mean, I've told this before, I think, that when he was, he went into a hospice briefly just to kind of, just sort of, you know, get on top of his sort of paint and stuff.

53:30And which is, you know, you probably never had a friend in hospice. It's like a weird thing. So I phoned him up and I said to him, oh, he said, yeah, I'm in this hospice. I said, oh, what was, because they're still, you're still the same, Sean, you know. I said, oh, Christ, what's that like? He said, well, the sex is brilliant. He said, they're just so grateful.

54:01so good yeah so good yeah i think it's that that's what i find scary about life is that and i've got i'm at the ripe old age of 22 35 where suddenly i i i sort of you know i think about parents and all these life suddenly goes yeah it speeds up certainly yeah it's suddenly I feel like age of like more to 15 years took ages. And then it just gets quicker and quicker and quicker as we grow up. And it's scary. Yeah, yeah, it is scary. But that's why we have to enjoy the moment. And on that note, goodbye.

54:48One of the great gifts to me was, although I wasn't, you know, I wasn't cut out to be a doctor. what I learned from being a doctor for, you know. Seven years. When I was in medical school for five, but then I was only really a doctor for two, three maybe, was seeing people dying. You know, people who had saved money all their life, who had, you know, been jogging and were fit. And, you know, it seemed to me it was completely random when your moment came. Really? And I thought, and it was clear to me, you've got to make the most of it and you've got to, you know, life is short. And that was, and everyone learns that lesson, actually, and you're beginning to learn it, you know, I can hear.

55:37But often it doesn't come till you're 50, 60, whatever. What is important in life? The important thing is not what you think it is when you're younger. you know it's not money it's not uh houses and uh stuff it's a success it's not even it's not success it's i mean you know you need enough of this stuff but uh you know it's it's actually the process it's the day-to-day it's the you know um you know one of them uh my wife and my sort of happiest times as we, for some reason, it's stuck in our mind. We were sitting on a bench in Nice, eating a cream bun, sharing this massive cream bun. I love that.

56:27The simplicity of it. Yeah. And that, uh, and it's actually those things. It's, it's, it's not even like, you know, everyone says, Oh, I've seen my baby being born. It's, it's not actually even those. it's just a laugh, you know, with the kids in the car or, you know, you know, breaking into song when you, you know, hearing a song on the radio and you, you will sing, you know, it's, it's just, it's actually a lot of those kind of mundane things. Why was that moment with the bun so great? It just seemed kind of, I don't know, perfect, I suppose. Yeah. That's so sweet. Can we do this again? Jamie, I would love to.

57:11I would love to because we've only scratched the surface. I think we, honestly, I feel like we have only scratched it. And what we could do is in part two, we could do the rap and we could start it with the highlights of the last one and your show and then do a bit of trickery and kick it off. Yeah. And it would be something like... Something started here today, Jamie. Is this the beginning of the rap? No, this is me trying to be commercial. something started here today

57:42Harry we end with eight questions you ready for this? oh gosh these eight questions here we go you ready for this? what's the saying or phrase? you don't need this in your podcast you don't need the Jemima bit at the top it's really upsetting you don't need the eight questions no we do we do it's nice cut your overheads smaller shelves two covers smaller shelves you don't need the shelves to go up so high we didn't actually that was that was my fault sorry Cole what's a saying or phrase that makes you smile or cheers you up yeah so I like the phrase so my intro when if a compere asks me what they want me to say they say what do you want me to say when you get when I introduce you and so to really make it hard for them.

58:36I say, can you say, plucked from the womb of his purposeless splendor, please welcome Harry Hill. And I say, if you get it wrong, I won't come on. You'll just stay in the wings just waiting to get it. That's not what I said. So that's, yeah. Plucked from the womb of his purposeless splendor. I don't know where I got it from, but it's a quote from something. Best compliment anyone's ever given you? I get a lot and it's very touching. is no this isn't a funny one is i i get a lot of sort of 25 maybe the 25 late 20s saying to me oh you were my childhood very sweet as they say oh i used to watch you with my nan or my dad who's no longer with us and you know so that's i mean there's nothing more i mean actually i get quite emotional when people say that to me and uh and there's nothing nicer than that is there that's a bit of vulnerability right there yeah yeah it's my elephant man you discover the inner I have made made some people happy Mr.

59:44Treves the breathing and voice I have made Christ I think you inhaled something a fly or something you cleaner No. I have. Anyway. Next question. Others will never get out of there. I don't eat it. I have to eat at one o 'clock and look at them 40 minutes past. What scares you most about yourself? Oh, dear. I don't know. I don't know. Why do you have to eat at one? It's lunchtime. If you push that down the road, when you're going to have tea, the whole thing, concertinas. um what scares you most about yourself oh I don't know I'm not a very good driver I think my wife does tell me that I do drive too fast two chevrons she shouts two chevrons

1:00:44two chevrons two chevrons when was the last time you cried and why oh gosh I cry quite a lot it tends to be as much happy moments as sad moments, I think. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, there was a really sad thing happened to me in February when my friend Steve died, who I wrote two musicals with. And so that was, you know, I'm still sort of recovering from that. truth that was true yeah what's something you can't let go of what can I let go of like what what have other people said oh like a physical what object can't you let go of this table like what past music comedy I tend to hang on to stuff.

1:01:52Yeah, my house is full of stuff and my wife is the same. We just, we got stuff piled up. What's the most important, what is the most important object that you have, the sentimental thing you have in your house?

1:02:06I don't know. I don't know what the fuck that would be. What a stupid question.

1:02:15Where is this getting us? No I think it would be Alright I'll make one up I'll make one up Big collar shirts There you go There's realness in that What is You're usually going to hate this one Favourite One liner joke One liner joke Or a joke I think my best joke And it's not of a well-known one, but I think for some reason I do really like it. First, we were hunter-gatherers. We collected nuts and berries from the woodland floor, and then we learned how to eat another animal's kill. So we would eat the raw meat, and the blood would drip down our face. And then we'd discover how to make spears and arrows, and we would kill the animals ourselves.

1:03:09And we would eat them, and the blood would drip. And then we discovered fire, and we were able to cook the meat. And then my parents separated and we were taken into care.

1:03:21That's a good joke. What turns you off? Cruelty to animals. Cruelty to animals, man, you know. I hate that. I hate that. I don't mind eating them. No. Well, people losing their temper. There's nothing uglier than that, is there? That's very true. That's a good one. And if you ask my kids, they'd say, I've got a short fuse. I've got better at it, I think, because the pressure has got less. But particularly when I was doing TV burp, I was like... Because it was just so much pressure all the time. What turns you on? I like, you know what, I like different... I think I like someone taking a risk. so actually what I hate is anything that's mediocre I think I'd much rather see a kind of a failure on a kind of epic scale someone really trying something new and it failing I mean obviously I wanted to succeed is what I would you know I love a new thing there's nothing no greater pleasure to me than going to a club and seeing a comedian and bearing in mind I've done it for so long I think I know everything about it is going and seeing a comedian and just being really blown away by them and surprised and uh and it makes it makes me think wow this is what a great uh what a great job and uh there's always going to be new really funny people to surprise us all what do you like most about yourself uh i like the fact that i'm upbeat and that's a gift You know, I'm just lucky.

1:05:05My mum is very, she's had a fair bit of tragedy in her life, but she is the same. You know, I'm one of five kids. I don't know if we're all like that, but I bounce back. You know, I do, yeah, it's a real gift. I have a sunny outlook. I love that. I have a sunny outlook as well. I like it. Yeah. It's good to be. And it is. You can't control it. No. I agree. Last one, and then you're free. what is your favorite family friendly insult? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I have a heckle put down line, which I found when I started as a comedian. You used to be able to send off for a little book of heckle put down lines, which are no use to you at all.

1:05:56But I didn't know what I was doing. And one of them is the only one I've remembered is if there's a, you get heckled in the unlikely situation where you get heckled by someone with a moustache. Right? It's all really specific. It's really specific. So, and it has happened to me. And I go, oh, get off of something. You go, hey, is that a moustache? Have your eyebrows come down for a drink? It's so kind of silly and stock. When you see it, it's a man with a moustache. You light up, you're like, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Get ready for this one. Harry Hill, it's been a complete honour. Thank you for coming on Great Company.

1:06:36It's been fun talking to you, Jamie. Have you enjoyed it? I have. I've really enjoyed it. Now will you record a message from my three daughters? While we're on the podcast? No, it's got to be a video. Okay, we'll do that. Harry Hill, thank you very much.

1:06:53What do you think? That was so funny. Oh my God. But also quite different from other episodes. It was a ramble. A ramble and I really enjoyed I was I'm gonna say I was surprised By how much I enjoyed it Really? Yeah I just Because I think of him as TV burp And like you've been framed I was thinking of him like Accompanied by things And there was a moment Where he opened up And then he shut it down That story of the Doctor Is honestly hilarious So funny What did you think about him Saying he didn't like the top Where you and I chat? I really enjoyed that So good Are you gonna leave that in? Yeah I might do I felt quite Yeah quite antagonised by him but i really enjoyed him he also arrived five minutes early and um i'd gone downstairs to get a coffee and uh there were loads of flowers outside someone's left loads of bouquets they'd been someone had been doing a shoot loads of bouquets so i just went and like mad and picked up like 10 bouquets don't know why and then harry hill arrived and i'm just holding flowers for him bouquets of flowers so i said goodbye to him just now and gave him a bunch of flowers to give to his wife.

1:07:58That is genius. Weird. I also like the fact that he is our second comedian, both who have turned up early. Joe Brand just randomly turned up. Yeah. And Harry Hill now. Yeah. Got a lot of bling as well. He's great though. Like really well dressed. Like I could be his mate. Do you think? Yeah. I like, I, I, I, I felt very comfortable in his company. Yeah. You enjoyed it? I did enjoy it. Did you listen? Did you listen? Well, if you did enjoy it, remember to give us a follow and subscribe to this podcast and share it. And also you can follow us and message us on social media at Great Company Podcast.

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