JILL SCOTT: What Football Can Teach Us | GREAT MOMENTS

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1:35Hello everyone, I'm Jamie Lang and this is Great Moments. Hey everyone, I hope you're well and welcome back to Great Moments. Now if you're new here, this is the place where I'm going to bring you a standout moment from one of my favourite great comedy conversations. These are the moments that have stayed with me long after the recording and I hope you can take something away from them. Now, if today's conversation leaves you wanting more, you can find the link to the full episode in the show notes. So sit back, settle in, and here it is.

2:10You've had 161 caps. Yeah. For England. Yeah. It's a lot. That is mad. Yeah, I can't believe it, actually, sometimes when I sit and talk about it, because when I was a young girl who just fell in love with the game of football, I never thought I'd play one game for England Never mind 161 So yeah, I am very, very proud of that stat When I reflect Are you actually proud? Because sometimes we just kind of say I do this occasionally Which is where I think it's the Britishness in this But also being a Northern Brit as well It's even more so you don't do it right Which is where someone goes, are you proud?

2:51And I go, yeah, of course I'm proud of myself But actually I don't really know if I'm proud of myself I just kind of said, are you truly proud of yourself? Yeah, with that one, I am. I think because, and maybe it's because you're still going in your profession, whereas that part of my kind of life is over now, football. So I feel like I've closed the door on it. And maybe when I played, I was like, wow, I'm playing for England. But I was so focused on just giving it everything that I had to put in good performances to try and contribute to a team win. But I think now that that chapter has been closed for three years, I think I've been able to reflect, kind of seen little clips back of like tournaments, the Euros win and stuff like that.

3:33And I think I can probably finally sit here now and say, and I am proud that I did that. And don't get us wrong. I mean, I'm proud of the whole team. I'm proud of women's football, especially reflecting back on the journey to getting the Euros win. But probably just proud of being part of such a big thing like that. When you have to close the door on something. Yeah. How hard is that? It wasn't as hard as I thought it was going to be from the sense that it was the perfect ending for me. The fact that we got that gold medal at Wembley, I think it felt like the right time to close the door. I felt like if I was closing it after that, it would have been like a rusty close where my body couldn't go anymore.

4:16My knee was starting to swell and I was carrying a lot of injury. So it was just nice to probably just give that door a little push and be like, right, it's time. for the next chapter. And I knew deep down that tournament, I didn't play a lot. I was on the bench and in training. I felt like the game was just starting to get away from us a little bit. Can you feel that as a professional? A little bit. You can start to go, wow. Yeah, I think when you've got players like Ella Toon, Alessia Russo, Lauren Hemp, who were younger and they're coming through and they're dancing around you at times, like you're not there.

4:47And I'm like, my head really wanted to do something that my body probably couldn't anymore. But I just felt extremely lucky that I'd made that squad. And the fact that I played about 35 minutes in the final, I kind of liked that. I was involved to a certain extent. When you went onto the pitch for that final against Germany, did you know in your head, you're like, right, I'm just going to, you had three things down, I'm going to run, that's okay, but I'm going to just be a bit aggressive. I'm going to get someone to know that they played against me, they're going to feel a bit like roughed up.

5:21I was dying to get on because Kira Walsh, Georgia Stanway, they'd literally ran every single minute in midfield. So they'd done about six, seven games. And my legs felt fresh because obviously I hadn't played a lot and I could see they were starting to cramp a little bit. And rightfully so, they'd covered so much ground, probably 11K a game they'd covered. So I was like, get us on. Like, I want to help. I want to help. So I was excited to come onto the pitch and I was like, I'm just going to run as much as I can, get in people's faces, make it difficult. And I think that was my game, really. When I look back, I played against some of the best players in the world.

6:01Alexia, who plays for Spain and Barcelona, Bon Matty. And these were players that were absolutely brilliant. But my mindset was, you know what, today I'm just going to try and make you average, just get in your face, rough you up. And that was kind of my game plan, really. So, yeah, to get on the pitch in that final, I just wanted to run for the girls that had ran for so long. When you win something that big. Yeah. It's like an out-of-body experience, right? Yeah. It was just, it was ridiculous. I remember me, Lucy Bronze, Demi Stokes, I think was sat on that pitch for about an hour and a half after, just looking at the fans and just thinking, wow.

6:40And I remember thinking, we're never going to get this moment again. and then the girls go and do it again three years later. God, this is the best team ever. No one's going to do this again. I think I remember seeing to them, girls take this in because this is once in a lifetime. And they're probably thinking, we're going to go and win it again in three years time. So maybe I was just talking to myself then. But yeah, best feeling in the world. Do you think that looking back at it, is that proudest moment of your life? Yeah, yeah. And I think whatever happens, I said to my, I actually said this in my speech the other day when I won this award and my partner Shelly was there and I said it was the best day of my life and it definitely will be.

7:22And I actually said to her on stage, I am sorry, Shelly, like if we want to get married or have children, hopefully, I was like, it'll probably still be the best day of my life. Is that a bad thing to say? No, not at all. I know you've mentioned this before, but you got caught on camera. Yeah. Although that sentence could go anywhere So I'm glad it's going where it's going Oh I don't know what you were thinking Yeah You were caught on camera doing what? How did you get that video?

7:55You were caught on camera Shouting something at a German player Yeah Can you repeat it? Is this podcast allowed to? You can say anything you want on this podcast So I did say, fuck off, you fucking prick. And you know what? I don't even swear in day-to-day life. Honestly, I used to live, my house used to be right on a park. And if the kids were swearing in the street, I'd be like, what's your language? There's smaller kids around and you shouldn't be swearing. So I hate swearing. But in that moment, I felt like the camera did not do me justice that day. so basically she had my leg trapped and I couldn't get away so I was just getting so angry and then I stood up and I don't even think them words are in my vocabulary I actually don't know where they came from but I must have just been so passionate so emotional and then yeah and I remember getting home a couple of weeks later I was probably partying for that amount of time and I think I told one of the kids on the park I was like what's your language and they were like you can talk so I was like I won't be seeing that ever again um but yeah I think it was just a outburst of passion has there ever been a time when you felt like you did let yourself down um probably when you've just asked us that question suddenly like there was a couple of times in my career when I got sent off and that was probably more the case of letting myself down but also the team so I remember we had a cup final at Wembley it was actually when Covid was so there was nobody there but we were playing this game Man City v Chelsea in the cup final and I actually got sent off and we lost that game and it's a long walk down the tunnel and back to the changing rooms when there's a crowd there I tell you now it's so long when there's no crowd there it felt like the longest walk of my life and you're just hearing your stars go down oh honestly and then you sat in the changing rooms and usually you can't hear anything because of the crowd but I could hear every kick of the ball every goal that went in and yeah I think that was a moment where I was like I've let the team down here because if we'd kept 11 on the pitch I believe we would have won that game so probably when you ask that question that's the first thing that comes into my head.

10:10Wow it reminds me and I don't know why I know you're one of your heroes David Beckham. Yes I love David Beckham. Oh man he was yeah the him and Johnny Wilkinson because obviously I'm a rugby player as you know. number 10 did you do the kicks I did the kicks number 10 fly half it was a fullback just you know just I was multi-talented just on the field put me anywhere but that moment I still remember when he got the red card yes in the world cup yeah and you know he spoke about his document he's went through a whole hell of it but just forget about what fans think and what everyone thinks outside of the media letting your team down in that moment when you make a mistake and you know it's just a moment of frustration or anger or and you lash out or do something stupid yeah and you just realize that why have I done that I must say this shouldn't have been a red card just to just to clarify it was a really bad refereeing decision what did you do one of them was actually I did do that once actually that was my other sending off but I didn't put my head back and forward I just kind of put it forward I don't know if that's any better but yeah

11:20I wasn't going to bring this one up. That's why I went to the other one. Let's park the other one for a second. Okay, yeah. It's a bit boring, that one. So you headbutter someone? Yeah. But again... Like Zidane style? No. Again, the girl was kind of like punching us in the stomach at the time. And then she put her head towards me. And I must say, it is a natural human reaction. If I put my head to you now, you would meet my... I'm not saying you'd headbutt us, but you would meet my head. So in some kind of contact, I'm not getting out of this. But yeah, basically I got sent off. That was against Arsenal, but that's my only two sending offs.

12:00That's not too bad, is it? Do you think you've always been competitive? Because I say that because you were a cross country runner when you were younger and you won the London mini marathon when you were 14 years old. Yeah. you obviously played a lot of football where does that competitive nature come from I'm not too sure I grew up with an older brother who was I was going to say about three years older than us he still is three years older than us because it does change when we get older yeah exactly he's now younger than me everyone thinks we're twins and I'm like he's three years older than me but um I think I always wanted to be better than him and he was fast he could play football and whatever he could do I wanted to do better even if we were playing like FIFA on the computer or anything like that I was a really really bad loser but I think when I speak about being competitive I always wanted to win but I think it was more I just wanted to do the best that I could do I never wanted to like let myself down and that's something that's probably stuck with us like I put a lot of work in to whatever I'm doing because I just want to do the best that I can do and I remember a football manager saying to us one year he said whatever you do just look yourself in the mirror at the end of the day and think could I have done any more today and that stuck with us it was Nick Cushion who was Manchester City women's manager and and that stuck with us so I like to think like I don't actually stand in front of the mirror every night and go Jill could you have been better today but it's something it's something that I always think did I prepare right um did I do the best that I could and yeah so I think it's a competitive kind of nature with myself in a way as well the healthiest one yeah I think so yeah I think so I because I I remember speaking to a therapist and the therapist said to me um and I said I think the problem with like life at the moment is like and I was probably around 29 30 I was like I'm comparing myself to so many people yeah and like people who I work with or people who I know and people are doing better or worse I'm constantly looking what people are doing and she said why are you doing that I said well because that's that I compare I see what I'm doing she says no you just got to compare yourself to yourself yeah if you're doing better than you were doing yesterday or better than you were doing last year that's the most important thing that means you're doing better so keep doing that yeah and I think we can get caught up because of social media now like constantly thinking our lives aren't good enough and comparing to everybody else like somebody does a post and you think oh they had a better week than me or they'll put something on you think oh well I haven't got that but I think I've always been quite good at like I love to see other people doing well I'm like oh that's brilliant and I think in football I used to always say you don't compete with each other like if we all do well we can get to whatever you perceive to be the top together and yeah it might happen at different times for different people but I just always wanted to be a better version of myself and I think in society today we probably could be better at supporting others and that I hear loads of people when they say um oh so-and-so did really well and oh so-and-so looks great and I'm the person that I'll go and find that person and tell them like I'll meet people and I'll go you know what somebody said to me last week like how beautiful you look and you're doing so well and because I think we're not very good at actually telling the person sometimes so I think when people meet us for the first time I think I'm a bit weird because I'm like you know so and so from down the road they said you look beautiful last week on telly that's amazing though so I my buddy told me the same thing he said what I do now if I'm talking about someone yeah with someone I always message and say we've just been talking about you oh we think you're amazing at this then I was like that's such a nice thing because we love being told nice things and we don't really we forget to say to people oh my god a friend was saying you're looking beautiful the way you played was amazing or the fact that you inspired me here that's a really and that knock-on effect is so nice yeah i do think it's an important thing and i don't know why we don't do it as much now i'm not too sure but i do try to

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