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11 Mar 2026 · 1h 16m · 31 chapters

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MILLIE COURT: “Lucinda Was Totally Misunderstood in the Love Island Villa”

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MILLIE COURT: “Lucinda Was Totally Misunderstood in the Love Island Villa”

In this episode, Jamie Laing interviews Millie Court, the winner of Love Island Series 7, discussing her experiences on the show, her life after reality television, and her insights into relationships—both past and present. Millie openly shares her journey of navigating fame, love, and public scrutiny.

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Chapters

0:45

Insights on Reality TV Pressure

Millie shares personal experiences about the stress of reality TV and public scrutiny.

“So you go into the USA villa and then you see Zach.”
3:18

Millie's Arrival on Love Island

Millie discusses her experiences and thoughts on being on Love Island.

“All the things that you want to know, we find out in the episode.”
4:19

Navigating Confidence in the Villa

Millie reflects on the challenges of confidence and identity in the villa.

“Enjoy this episode of Great Company with Millie Kool.”
6:53

The Pressure of Reality Show Editing

Discussion on the risks and realities of being edited on a reality show.

“Yeah, because it's an intense thing, isn't it?”
8:06

Applying for Love Island: A Personal Journey

Millie recounts her journey of applying and preparing for Love Island.

“And I thought, oh, I really thought I was this confident person.”
11:58

Understanding the Production Behind Reality TV

Insights into how reality TV is produced and the role of producers.

“But it was obviously the best thing ever.”
14:02

Reality Show Friendships: The Producer Dilemma

Understanding the complex relationship between contestants and producers in reality shows.

“Because when you're upset or you're going through something, all you want is advice from your mum or like my sisters.”
15:00

Creating Drama for Entertainment

The necessity of drama and entertainment in reality TV and its impact on participants.

“I think, to be honest, if you think about that too much, that's where it will show.”
16:05

Expectations vs. Reality on Love Island

Discussing the differences in expectations and experiences in competitive reality shows.

“I'm trying to relate to this because I know exactly what you're saying.”
18:50

Coupling Up and Navigating Relationships

The dynamics of relationships formed in the villa and the challenges faced.

“I'm probably going to have a great time again this time.”
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21:48

Romantic Gestures and Emotional Connection

Exploring the importance of romance and respect in relationships.

“Well, we all have our own little apartments on the night of the final.”
24:39

Navigating Love and Public Pressure

The challenges of maintaining a relationship under public scrutiny after reality TV.

“He'll walk around like a gentleman and like, won't let me go.”
28:00

Navigating Post-Love Island Relationships

Learn how to handle the pressures of public relationships after reality TV.

“And people think as well, like, oh, well, what's the thing to do now?”
29:10

The Impact of Family on Relationship Choices

Discover how family dynamics influence relationship expectations.

“I just really want to make the right steps with him so that we, yeah.”
30:48

Understanding the Effects of Divorce

Explore how experiences from a divorced family shape views on marriage.

“Like one Christmas I'd be with my mom, the next Christmas I'd be with my dad.”
32:36

Clinging to Toxic Relationships

Understand the reasons behind staying in unhealthy relationships.

“You can just be like That's my dad It's amazing Yeah But also in relationships, it's interesting because when you come, I came from a divorced family.”
34:29

Coping with Heartbreak and New Beginnings

Learn strategies for dealing with heartbreak and embracing single life.

“I don't regret being with him for seven years.”
36:28

The Dynamics of Public Relationships

Examine the unique pressures and expectations of public relationships.

“Because what you're saying is when you become a, you become, you become a brand together, you become a brand.”
42:00

Millie's Relationship Dynamics

Millie shares her perspective on the dynamics of her relationship with Zach during the show.

“If he's feeling something or like, don't get me wrong, he says every day like, wow, you're so beautiful or whatever it is.”
44:54

Producers and Relationship Concerns

Millie discusses her concerns about producers potentially bringing in her ex Liam during the show.

“Were you worried that the producers might bring in Liam?”
46:36

Friendship and Arguments in the Villa

A deep dive into the friendships among contestants and the arguments that arose during filming.

“Can we also mention some of the arguments?”
49:59

Misunderstandings with Lucinda

Millie explains her friendship with Lucinda and the misunderstandings that affected their relationship.

“But I know for a fact that didn't happen.”
51:50

Handling Trolling and Public Perception

Millie opens up about dealing with online trolling and public perceptions of her.

“so if you can't understand then you're not going to have an It's very mature Yeah exactly that Yeah Are you confrontational?”
56:00

Self-Love and Acceptance

Millie discusses her journey with self-acceptance and the importance of surrounding oneself with supportive people.

“I think the thing that I struggled with the most as well is I had really bad acne.”
58:08

Reflections on Love Island Experience

Millie shares her thoughts on participating in Love Island and the positivity it brought to her life.

“And then in your 30s, you suddenly go, okay, maybe I kind of get this spot.”
1:00:21

Living with Chloe: A Fun Friendship

Millie talks about her close friendship with Chloe, their living situation, and their shared experiences.

“I just want to talk about Chloe for a second.”
1:01:53

Plans for America and Travel

Millie shares her excitement about upcoming travel plans with Zach in America and the adventures they will have.

“me and chloe are not the type to clean if anyone would clean it would be chloe she's better at than me.”
1:04:14

Juicy Love Island Trivia Game

A playful game where Millie answers Love Island questions while also tackling USA trivia.

“Well, on that note, I have a, uh, I have a game that I want to play with you.”
1:10:00

Introduction to Misleading Fortunes

Learn about the new podcast 'Misleading Fortunes' and its unique approach.

“celebrity tarot reading drag queen and in my new podcast, Misleading Fortunes I sit down with a celebrity guest to lift the curtain to see what the universe has in store for them.”
1:10:26

Eight Questions with Millie Court

Millie shares personal insights in response to eight unique questions.

“Can I just say, listen, when I speak to you, what I love so much is the openness and the honesty.”
1:14:30

Fan Moments and Justin Bieber Obsession

Millie shares her fandom experiences and childhood obsession with Justin Bieber.

“And then I put a TikTok up and everyone was like, it's disgusting.”
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0:00Jamie Laing: Coming up on Great Company. Who was the most annoying person to live with in the villa? Which couple would you avoid going on a double date with outside the villa? Snog, Mary Pie, Curtis, Charlie, Scott. Who was the biggest game player on All Stars?

0:14Millie Court: Right, okay, here we go, this is what we're doing now.

0:17Jamie Laing: Who was the bombshell guy that you were desperate to come in? Are you ready for this? No! So then, do you love him?

0:30Millie Court: Hi, I'm Lily Call and I'm in great company.

0:36Jamie Laing: Were you worried that the producers might bring in Liam?

0:39Millie Court: I was, yeah. And I said to the producers, if he was to come in, I would leave the show.

0:45Jamie Laing: So you go into the USA villa and then you see Zach.

0:48Millie Court: Yeah.

0:48Jamie Laing: He's a good looking dude.

0:49Millie Court: So fit.

0:50Jamie Laing: We asked him to write you something. Shall I read it to you? Yeah.

0:56Millie Court: Oh my God, that might be the sweetest thing anyone's ever said to me.

0:59Jamie Laing: People, I think, forget is that it's an entertainment show, right? Of course.

1:02Millie Court: Just wanting to constantly make sure that you look good because if you don't, you're going to get trolled on it and it's going to give you a complex. They would troll me on if I put weight on. They'd like question me having respect for myself. They would troll me about my chin. So I got filler in it to get rid of that. And it just absolutely consumes you.

1:20Jamie Laing: What about Lucinda? Because you and Chloe were good friends with her, no? Yes.

1:24Millie Court: Yes, we were. And online, everyone's going, oh, she slept with Toby or she slept with Liam. I don't think people really understood Lucinda. What was the real reason behind it?

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2:52Jamie Laing: We know death is coming for us all But what happens between now and then? Let's see what the cards have to say I am misleading the nation's favourite celebrity Tarot reading drag queen And in my new podcast, Misleading Fortunes I sit down with a celebrity guest To lift the curtain to see what the universe has in store for them Love, career and the chaos behind the scenes Because there is really nowhere to hide When the cards are on the table Listen and watch now wherever you get your podcasts.

3:47Jamie Laing: about all the tea from the villa. All the things that you want to know, we find out in the episode. And we have a special letter from Zach, the boy she left the Love Island villa with. So get ready for that. All of that is coming up in the show. Now, before we start, if I can ask you one thing, that would be if you could subscribe to our show. I can't tell you how many things it does for us. It keeps making the show better, getting better guests for you each week. And we want to keep making the best show for you guys possible. If we could do that one thing, I thank you so much. Okay, this episode's a winner.

4:18Jamie Laing: Let's go. Enjoy this episode of Great Company with Millie Kool.

4:24Millie Court: Hi, I'm Millie Kool and I'm in Great Company.

4:31Jamie Laing: Millie, I'm so excited for you to be here.

4:33Millie Court: I'm so excited. Thank you for having me.

4:36Jamie Laing: Get out of here, man. Okay, so with TV, right? For me, because I have a baby now, I come home and I would scroll social media or I look on my... whatever. When Love Island All Stars was like, I sat every night watching. It was like the greatest TV I've ever, I think I've ever seen. I was obsessed.

5:00Millie Court: Congratulations, by the way, on the baby. Thank you very much. Secondly, can't believe you watch that every night. Every night. So the baby was in bed by that point. Oh yeah, yeah.

5:08Jamie Laing: But sometimes I was rocking the baby and I was still watching.

5:11Millie Court: Screaming on the telly. That didn't wake the baby up. No. None of it? No. Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It was quite a roller coaster in there. Intense at times. But I had a bit of a sort of a rocky start as well. Like I wasn't sure what I was doing, who I was with. And yeah, ended up meeting Zach halfway through, which was, I think that's what made my journey better. And I then after that fully enjoyed it. But before was, yeah.

5:39Jamie Laing: Is it scary going into one of those situations?

5:42Millie Court: I think I was more scared the first time I went on, like four or five years ago. Like that series, I remember just being a nervous wreck before I went in. And the walk-in, I just, I couldn't wrap my head around what I was doing. I remember in Holding, you're in quarantine because it's right around COVID when I first went on. Oh my God. Yeah, so we had to do quarantine for two weeks to make sure you didn't have COVID or anything. We were all like clean. All like clean. Yeah, clean, yeah. no germs no COVID and I was all good and we yeah that whole two weeks I was just I couldn't sleep I was just like what am I doing I'm about to go on one of the biggest shows in the UK like this is crazy luckily I was walking in with someone I walked in with Lucinda and I think having her to lean on really helped but then going through that whole experience this time around I was definitely more confident I'm older I'm sure of myself now and I was like okay I know how it works the first time I was like I'm actually on a show, all these cameras, you're going on these dates and you're on a date and there's 20 people all with cameras watching you and you've got a flirt.

6:48Millie Court: And it was really quite awkward and I was embarrassed and I was shy. So this time around it was easier.

6:55Jamie Laing: Yeah, because it's an intense thing, isn't it?

6:57Millie Court: So intense.

6:58Jamie Laing: Also, because you were in Series 7.

6:59Millie Court: Yes, I did.

7:01Jamie Laing: And so when you walk in then, you know you have to do that walk in and you have to be confident and flirty. And that's really un-British as well. like as soon as as soon as someone says to you like be confident you're like i can't

7:17Millie Court: can't tell me to do it it has to come naturally but it was like i think because the first time not being on tv before the first couple of weeks i was it was just such a weird feeling and everyone in there i felt was so much more confident than me and then around my friends i'm super confident and then being actually around other people who are naturally confident i was like oh i'm not but i'm i thought i was and i'm not and it took me a while to sort of get to grips with it all and you know you have to make friends you've got to make friends you don't know anyone that's

7:51Jamie Laing: funny how that happens sometimes when you're when within your group you're the the loud one or within your group you're the funny one or the smart one or whatever it is and then when you go into another group you actually have to become saying sometimes it can make you like lose your identity a little bit. Question yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

8:06Millie Court: And I thought, oh, I really thought I was this confident person. And actually, I'm around people who are way more confident than me. And I kind of probably lost myself a little bit for the first couple of weeks the first time. And then once I was comfortable with people, I realized I think I'm different in scenarios when I'd know someone when I don't. And I think I maybe fake the confidence around people that I don't know whereas with my friends I'm naturally confident but this time around I'm I was naturally I think because I kind of knew what I was doing getting into and I've done it before.

8:39Jamie Laing: Did you did you ever practice your walking at home?

8:43Millie Court: Well no because I don't have a long enough like pathway to practice it. Did you ever look in the mirror? Yeah I did try on my walking bikini with my heels and I was like does this look good will it look good on telly let's see but I had to give them five different options of what my walking outfit would be. And I had one in my head that I was like, yeah, this is the one I want to wear. And yeah, they chose a different one. And I was like, okay, I'm not wearing that one now. But my chaperone, she was like, yeah, you look hot in that. It's great. She was, she was bigging me up. So I felt confident going in.

9:12Jamie Laing: But it's one of these things, right? Because I did reality TV.

9:15Millie Court: Yeah, of course. I've watched every single series. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

9:20Jamie Laing: Very glad. But it's one of those things, right? Which is, it's like, it's like a real risk to go and do a show like that because you don't have control of the edit you don't know how you're going to come across yeah you know your family friends you're great but your friends may judge your parents may judge you it's kind of like an isolating place to be why did you decide to go and do the first series i was single for about a year and a half and

9:46Millie Court: to be honest i applied for it i didn't get scouted or anything and it's a funny story i was at work I've got a bunch of friends that I'm friends with when I worked at ASOS. And we were all sat at work together. And one of my friends was on Facebook ad, clearly not working. And she's just scrolling through Facebook. She was like, Mills, there's an ad on here for Love Island. You should so apply it. And we're all laughing, joking about it. And then I said, oh, yeah, go on then. Why not? Let's do it. So we all sat around the table applying for this, all these questions. And we were thinking of all these funny things to say.

10:21Millie Court: It weren't even me. like some of my friends were inputting into the answers I'm thinking what could we say to that so it weren't even really my personality and sent it off not really thinking much of it and yeah and then but I'd say probably about a month later I got a call and it from my tv and then I text my friends straight away saying no way they've actually just rung me like is this actually happening and they were like well just go along with it and see what happens there's so much you have to do to get onto the show like you have to do a psych test you have to do like a full body check at the doctors you have to have loads of interviews then you meet the execs and you have to pass all those stages so what are you thinking what do you think you're just like i'm just thinking this this isn't going to happen but we'll just go along with it like i don't know i just didn't i kind of maybe because i was so like nonchalant about it that i just thought if it happens it does it if it doesn't it doesn't matter yeah it doesn't matter nothing to lose but nothing to lose i'm having fun my life's great like if this happens whatever and uh yeah then i got the call saying we want you to be on it you need to leave on the 7th of june and you're coming on the show and i just i think until i walked in it didn't feel real because they always say to you as well you're not going on the show until you're in those doors because there's people who get flown out and they don't need to go on it yeah yeah they get taken out to holding with a chaperone and if they don't fit the storyline, if they don't think that there's a match in there for you, they won't put you in there.

11:48Millie Court: So even when I flew out, I was like, I still couldn't go on. Like, I might not go on. And then, yeah, so when I actually was walking in the doors, I was like, right, this is actually happening.

11:57Jamie Laing: Had you watched Love Island before?

11:59Millie Court: I've watched every series. I love reality TV. I literally love it. It's so fun. So that was like a pinch me moment. I was like, am I here? I'm here. What am I doing? I'm crazy. But it was obviously the best thing ever.

12:11Jamie Laing: So you had watched the Live Atwood ones? Yeah, all of them.

12:15Millie Court: And I'm such a fan of the show, which actually altered the kind of way I thought of it afterwards. I didn't like watching a couple of the series afterwards because I knew how it worked. And I was like, oh, I think they've been produced to do that. Or that storyline has been made out to be this way when it probably actually isn't like that in person. So it kind of changed the way I viewed it. then I kind of forgot about it and just enjoyed it for what it is.

12:43Jamie Laing: Because that's the thing which people I think forget is that it's an entertainment show, right? And so what happens when you go into the villa you have to kind of be in some ways produced because you're otherwise just going to sit around and just say like the weather's good.

12:55Millie Court: Yeah.

12:55Jamie Laing: So you have to make this conversation. You have to make... So it's exhausting at the same time. It must be for you guys, right? It's...

13:01Millie Court: Well, I think it sounds so silly because we are just sitting in the sun sunbathing and talking all day but your social battery... gets really low at some points. And you think, we're doing this day in, day out, just chatting, getting ready every single night and going out in the garden. The garden that we live in and we spend all day in, in heels and dresses. It's such a bizarre thing. But after, I think, towards the end of the series, especially if you're in there for the full stint, we all get a bit restless, I think, because we're like, we just want to go home now. And that sounds a bit ungrateful.

13:36Millie Court: And obviously, we're all very grateful to be there.

13:37Jamie Laing: No, it doesn't, but you would do, 100%, because it's exhausting. And you were in there for how long?

13:41Millie Court: So this series was six weeks, but the first one was eight. It's a long time. Yeah, to be like no friends, can't contact your friends and family. And even before that in holding, you have no phone. So I think the first time I went like three months without even speaking to anyone that I know. And that was, I think, something I struggled with a lot. Because when you're upset or you're going through something, all you want is advice from your mum or like my sisters. and like if I can't get that and you're you've got to lean on the producers and I I think I fell for that them being my friends in there and then I realized this time I was like you're not my friends you are the producers and I kind of like I clocked it a few times and they knew that they knew that everyone had done it before and this time it was harder for them to be like right you've just got to do this for the show we're trying to create a good show and they would tell you that like it's going really well like you know whereas the first time I really thought that they

14:38Jamie Laing: were my friends I know yeah I kind of know I mean it's the same when I you know because they're they needed to do their job right which is create a show and so what they want is they they have to weigh up this balance with like being your friend and helping you and doing but also producing you in a way so you're creating good content and a good show and I think that's the hardest thing for lots of people to on the outside to understand because on the inside you have no idea what the outside is thinking.

15:03Millie Court: Yeah.

15:03Jamie Laing: Do you? So how nerve wracking is that? I think, to be honest,

15:10Millie Court: if you think about that too much, that's where it will show. Because there's certain people that I think if you worry about the way that you look, you might change the way you do things. And if you're not authentic to yourself, people see straight through it. But I think this time round, you knew who was trying to create a good show and like who wasn't. I don't know, like some people have been on Love Island a few times, like Scott and Lucinda, and you know that they're good at it, right? And they have created some really good TV, whereas I don't think that I was sort of put in there to do that.

15:45Millie Court: I'm not in there to create drama. I was very drama free in there. I don't like that stuff, so I very much stayed out of it. And I probably could argue that was quite boring on there, but I was just there to find someone and I did with Zach so we just stayed out of it, you know?

16:00Jamie Laing: Wait, so that's... Yeah. Do you know what's so funny with it is that I... It's hard... I'm trying to relate to this because I know exactly what you're saying. When I used to do Chelsea...

16:11Millie Court: Yeah.

16:12Jamie Laing: Spencer and I were really good at the show because we would hold everything for camera.

16:16Millie Court: Exactly, yeah.

16:16Jamie Laing: And we used to walk into scenes with each other and we'd call them scenes because there'd be cameras set up and whatever we knew were being filmed.

16:22Millie Court: Yeah.

16:22Jamie Laing: And I used to look at Spencer and I go, and he'd look at me and go, how bad is it? And I go, it's not good. And he would then say, all right, let's bring it. And I'd be like, okay. Because we knew you had to create the entertainment, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is kind of weird from people on the outside because, well, why would you bring drama or things to a show? But you're doing it because you know you have to create an entertaining show.

16:43Millie Court: Of course. And there's a few people that would do that in there. And they'd be like, okay, so we know we're playing this game tonight. We've got a text. and whatever, myers come in and they would be like, okay, don't say anything I take to heart because let's just do this. Okay.

16:59Jamie Laing: You know? Okay, I need to ask you, so on All Stars, right? Yeah. Which by the way, you smashed, I just want to say, you were so great.

17:07Millie Court: Oh, thank you.

17:08Jamie Laing: And like, I just think everyone, I thought you were going to win. Did you? I was like, hands down, even when you didn't win, I was like, what the fuck? Like, are you kidding me? I mean, did you think you were going to win? No Get out of here No Was there a moment When your name wasn't called Were you like Sorry

17:27Millie Court: I think I thought There's no way That they would That I would be able To get a double win Because I'd already won Because you won Series 7 Yeah And I thought also Like If I did There would be a case Where probably people Would be fuming That I did as well Like because they're like Oh she's already won Like give it to someone else I honestly didn't care About that Like that's not really you get paid to go on there right and obviously 20 you get 50 000 pounds it's shared between you two but like that's great but like i am still getting paid it doesn't really matter whether i win that bonus or not like my life is amazing and i'm going to come out and there's going to be all these opportunities which i'm so grateful for anyway it weren't about that it was just

18:09Jamie Laing: that's interesting because what happens is oh so it's not about that because you going into series seven you're you're not famous you don't have a profile you're kind of just new to it all and then you come out and because you you win it and you do so well and yeah you you've built your career you're now you're famous you're a celebrity so you're then going into this

18:25Millie Court: news series as a as a celebrity kind of and it doesn't actually matter because I've still got my career and if anything like wherever I place I knew that I would come back to have the same thing so it wasn't important for me to win or even be in the final you know it was kind of just let's do this experience again. Like it was a crazy, I thought that'd be a once in a lifetime experience to then sort of do it again. I was like, how can I not really? Like it was amazing the first time. I'm probably going to have a great time again this time. Hopefully it's not always good for everybody, but yeah, I wasn't bothered.

19:02Jamie Laing: So you didn't mind when you were coupled up with Curtis? Because man, I was rooting for you guys. He was quite naturally funny.

19:13Millie Court: He was really easy to talk to.

19:15Jamie Laing: Good looking as well.

19:16Millie Court: I said to him in the villa, you're better in real life. You are. And I think because at that point I'd been single for like four days. And so Curtis came in and it was very quite natural between us. But yeah, I think after two or three days with him, I was like, no. But obviously I didn't get a chance to actually, I kind of said it. I was like, we need to slow this down. I'm not sure how I feel. And then we went to Villa USA. So I didn't really have a chance to call it off with him.

19:48Jamie Laing: So you go into the USA Villa and then you see Zach.

19:51Millie Court: Yeah.

19:52Jamie Laing: He's a good looking dude.

19:53Millie Court: So fit.

19:54Jamie Laing: He's fit.

19:54Millie Court: Yeah. Fit.

19:56Jamie Laing: He's fit.

19:56Millie Court: Unreal. I was like. And such a soft. Yeah.

20:00Jamie Laing: Like just calm.

20:01Millie Court: So he's so different to anyone I've ever dated in terms of like, I'd say, not personality, because his personality and eyes match so well. But I'm very much quite like, over exaggerating and like my facial expressions or I'm loud. And he's the opposite to that. And I've never had someone like that before. and it's really quite nice the way we level each other out because I excite him and then he brings me down when, not brings me down when I need to but I like it. The vibe that we have is really good and he's really cool. He's just cool, calm, collected. He'll never raise his voice. His morals are great.

20:43Millie Court: His vibe is good. Like, yeah, it was weird. When I met him, I was like, yeah, that's who I want.

20:48Jamie Laing: So you're in the villa together? Yeah.

20:54Millie Court: um how uh you kiss right yeah does anyone does anyone does ever does anyone ever

20:59Jamie Laing: does anyone ever sleep together in the villa

21:04Millie Court: does anyone um yeah there there were people do they yeah in actual in every series like what you're not thinking i always think there's a camera like what i think now because it's quite a family TV show. They don't show too much of it and I think we all know that. I can confirm me and Zach didn't. You didn't? Or me and anyone. No, no. Congratulations. Thank you. I think I was, I don't know, it was a decision between both of us that we were like, okay, this is something that I want to do.

21:39Jamie Laing: Did you both explode on the outside? Because that would be, you'd be like, well, there's no cameras here now, so I guess.

21:47Millie Court: Yeah. Well, we all have our own little apartments on the night of the final. So like, yeah, that's, thank God. Anyway, so it's a great experience once you leave. But I think everyone enjoyed leaving. But there was...

22:03Jamie Laing: Also, I suppose you're a great kisser.

22:05Millie Court: Yeah. It followed through. You know, it was great. Great, great experience.

22:14Jamie Laing: Is it not? Because you've obviously like sustained for that long. Yeah. And then is it a bit awkward? You're like, here we go. It's like a plane taking off.

22:23Millie Court: Do you know what? And also it doesn't last very long, which is understandable. But it's like, I felt like, oh, we've been waiting so long for this moment that it's like, I've put loads of pressure on this now. Now I feel shy. Like, what the fuck? How do we do this again? Okay, right. Here we go. No, we had a few wines and it was great.

22:55Jamie Laing: Speaking of Zach, so we asked him to write you something.

23:01Millie Court: What, really? What do you mean write me something? No, you didn't. Oh God, what is this?

23:11Jamie Laing: So he wrote you a letter.

23:12Millie Court: Okay.

23:13Jamie Laing: Shall I read it to you?

23:14Millie Court: Yeah.

23:16Jamie Laing: Hey Millie Grace.

23:17Millie Court: Oh.

23:19Jamie Laing: First of all, just want to say I miss you loads. I'm currently on a plane home and separation anxiety is already going crazy. It's so weird to be leaving you right now. We've had over a month straight of each other 24-7. And even though I'm thousands of miles away from you right now, I never felt closer to you. The past few weeks have been nothing less than perfect. Every new experience with you is something I'll remember and hold on to forever. You have no idea how excited I am to travel the world together. And that all starts in T minus 10 days from now when I'm writing this. Just remember that the absence of each other right now sucks, but it's going to make being together again so damn good.

24:06Jamie Laing: I'll see you soon, MG, your American boy.

24:13Millie Court: oh my god that might be the sweetest thing he's ever said anyone's ever said to me he's so romantic he's like a hopeless romantic he just says all the right things he does all the right things like it's not even just words for him it's actions too he's just so but explain

24:30Jamie Laing: that to me right because you've been in relationships right and they haven't quite worked out so but why is this one different maybe because he's american

24:40Millie Court: i don't know it's like he's so emotionally mature and he he understands women like and i don't know whether he gets it he gets women he he's like so respectful to women um it was weird we've had these conversations and he's like even like down to i was saying i was i was due on or i was i had cramps and stuff and he was like oh you know like are you you know do you take anything for it are you on an iud i don't even know what it is but he was asking me about like birth control and he knew all of this stuff about birth control he was um what else was he saying he he will be he the american guys respect women so much that the smaller things they do like he literally will not let me open a door like they're so chivalrous is that the word yeah yeah and there was times where I'd go and open a door and he would run in front of me, but what are you doing?

25:38Millie Court: We'll get into a car. He won't let me open that. He'll walk around like a gentleman and like, won't let me go. I'll scooch over. Like most guys I've gone into cabs with, like get in, scooch over. He'll open the door for me, sit me down, you know, push the door closed. He will make sure that I've always got a drink, like silly little things where they're like little actions that mean a lot. And yeah, I just think that... That respect. It's a lot of respect. And he has so much respect for his mum as well. Like the way he speaks to his mum and behaves towards his mum. Like he loves his mum so much.

26:15Millie Court: And I know that his parents have brought him up really, really well. Like when I met them, they were the sweetest people I've ever met too. Like it runs in the family.

26:25Jamie Laing: But this is really interesting because, you know, there's this whole idea that men have to like be a certain way in order to be liked by women, right? maybe that and it's a male point of view right maybe so you've got to like bench press like a hundred kilos and like treat them a little bit like you know whatever it is right but actually what you're saying is no a way to a woman's heart is to be respectful to be kind to be chivalrous to understand

26:53Millie Court: what women go through what women go through certain times exactly like he

26:58Jamie Laing: that's what's sexy

27:00Millie Court: yeah not having a crypto wallet no or bench pressing 100 kg or whatever the hell you do like yeah okay you might look fit whilst you do it but that's just surface level like what you look like I care about what's inside like don't get me wrong he's I think he's so attractive but the thing that attracts me more to him is what's in in here and how he acts and behaves like that is so attractive to me and I think that's probably as well what he said to me too like we're so emotionally connected and our personalities and the way we look at things are just like very much the same so it's probably the most emotionally mature relationship I've ever had where we're on the same level so then do you love him right Jamie it has been only three weeks I know like these these these things can go if he okay

27:56Jamie Laing: If he was to say to you, I love you, what would he say back?

28:01Millie Court: Okay, I don't know. I don't know yet. Yeah, why would you? I don't know yet, no. I feel like I am so conscious about rushing things with him because after Love Island, a lot of people, especially the first time when you haven't done it before, a lot of couples, I think, break up because of the intensity of what comes afterwards and how much pressure you have as a public relationship. And people think as well, like, oh, well, what's the thing to do now? Move in together, right? Or you've got to spend all this time together because if you're apart for two days, people are like, oh, they don't like each other.

28:38Millie Court: They've broken up. And it is quite a lot of pressure. I know the difference this time. So I don't want to fall into those ways. Yeah, we're going to go traveling together, but we're not, like I saw an article, there are plans to move in. We have no plans to move in together. we're gonna we're very much free spirited people we love travelling we're really adventurous and that's what we're gonna do together but I've got my life he's got his life and I think we're very much focused on that I don't wanna rush all of those special moments like I feel like it's been three weeks even if I felt like I loved him I probably would just hold off

29:10Jamie Laing: you would lock that in yeah so basically we're saying you love him but let's lock it in for a bit

29:15Millie Court: yeah don't say it no no I don't know it's like it's going that way you know Like I'm so close to that, but I don't know whether in my head I'm like, oh, is it too soon to say that? Or is it too soon to do this? I just really want to make the right steps with him so that we, yeah.

29:33Jamie Laing: Isn't it cool though that that's what a like sexy, fun, attractive man should be like?

29:39Millie Court: Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

29:40Jamie Laing: That is what a man should be.

29:43Millie Court: 100%.

29:43Jamie Laing: Kind, loves his mom, respectful.

29:46Millie Court: All the right things. Honestly, I haven't had one red flag with him.

29:51Jamie Laing: But I remember you, there was in the villa, you were talking about how one of the big things for you is that your boyfriend has to get on with your dad.

29:58Millie Court: Yeah.

29:58Jamie Laing: Which makes me think that you have a really close relationship with your father.

30:01Millie Court: 100%, yeah.

30:01Jamie Laing: And your father obviously taught you, to go deep, but in psychology, right, they always say that if you, especially with daughters, if you have your father's love, you know how to be loved yourself. And so your dad obviously taught you what real love is like. so you know what someone how you should be treated yeah and you probably won't take anything less

30:20Millie Court: than that no that's true I mean I have in the past I think you know going through life navigating your 20s like sometimes you think things are right when they're not and sometimes you try to make things work when you think if you think deep down like this isn't right and probably what I want and I also think that I something that's probably come from my parents like they broke up when I was like three years old. So I've lived in, you know, a split family. Like one Christmas I'd be with my mom, the next Christmas I'd be with my dad. And I put this pressure on myself that like, I want to be with someone.

30:57Millie Court: And when I have a child with them, like that's my one. Like I don't want to break up and my child not have their family together. Not because I've had a bad life growing up with them being separate. Like I think that's also what grew me and my dad so close together because he was always so prevalent. Is that the word? Like in my life and me and my sister's life, like he was always there. He wasn't a distant father. He was reliable

31:23Jamie Laing: always there.

31:24Millie Court: Yeah, always, always. And, you know, I had a great relationship with both of them, but there's something in my head where I'm like, I don't want that for my child though, which is weird. And so when things are going wrong in a relationship, I try, I want to make it work. Like if we've liked each other at one point, loved each other, like we can, we can do this, but actually sometimes that's not right. And you kind of accept things that you shouldn't accept. So I put a lot of pressure on that myself, but like my dad's has, is so reliable. He's a brilliant dad. Like he's shown so much love towards me and my sisters and he, you know, is a, just a true gentleman in my eyes.

32:04Millie Court: So that is, yeah. Like what I would want my partner to be like, Rob. Rob Rob yeah Oh love him Miss him

32:13Jamie Laing: It's funny when When you Because I do so many of these right When you speak to people about like Relationships and stuff in life Their tone changes sometimes Yeah And when you speak about your dad Your tone

32:25Millie Court: Oh really?

32:26Jamie Laing: Yeah but in the most beautiful way

32:27Millie Court: Oh good yeah It's a bit more calm then Wasn't it? Yeah it's like It's like because

32:31Jamie Laing: It's funny right It's because that's your like Obviously your safe space So you can feel that You can just be like That's my dad It's amazing Yeah But also in relationships, it's interesting because when you come, I came from a divorced family.

32:43Millie Court: Yeah.

32:44Jamie Laing: And what that made me think is, is that separation and breaking up and divorce is a possibility. And so I went through my life link, well, I can always break up. I can always do that. And before I got married to Sophie, I always thought in my head, well, if we get married, I can always divorce.

32:59Millie Court: Yeah.

32:59Jamie Laing: And my best friend, this girl called Georgie, who's, she said, Jamie, the thing with you, she said, you always think that like breakups and divorces is like a possibility. is it possibility but you have to realise it's not you've got to fight for all these relationships you fight for these marriages whatever you go into and so when I was like dating a savior I was like right no that's so right I'm going to change my mindset

33:18Millie Court: and the fact that

33:19Jamie Laing: I've changed my mindset now is like you become a team

33:22Millie Court: yeah exactly

33:24Jamie Laing: but you did say that sometimes you've clung on to relationships because you wanted to make them work maybe they're not right yeah

33:32Millie Court: definitely probably I mean my first relationship I was with him for seven years. I was 16 when I met him. Yes, seven years. And I thought that was like my early, like my whole early teen and early twenties. Like it was a long time and that shouldn't have gone on for nowhere near as long as it did. But I clung onto it. And I think that's probably something that I tend to do because I have that thing in my head that like I want to make it work. Like it's weird, but actually I'd say the last four years of that relationship was so toxic. I think we all have had a very toxic relationship and that was toxic and it shouldn't have lasted as long as it did.

34:16Millie Court: But I also do believe in, you know, everything happens for a reason and I wouldn't be here or in this position now if I hadn't have gone through all of that. Like everything makes us who we are today and I would never regret anything. I don't regret being with him for seven years. But yeah, I think there's ways that I look at relationships. I mean, I've been to therapy and talked about my relationships a lot.

34:40Jamie Laing: And the reason why you cling on, you can't let go.

34:43Millie Court: Yeah. And she told me everything stems from your parents. Yeah, and your childhood. And you don't realize that you kind of mimic like what your family or your mom or your dad have done. and yeah.

34:59Jamie Laing: So how do you deal with breakup?

35:01Millie Court: To be honest, I'm very good at blocking out negative feelings and emotions.

35:08Jamie Laing: Because you're such an upper, you're such a great energy.

35:09Millie Court: Exactly, and I really don't like being around negative people or feeling negative and I just think that I want to make the most of every single day that I live, right? So if I'm sad, that's going to ruin my whole day and I don't like that. So I just want to be like, right okay let's just navigate that in my head i feel sad today but let's not let it ruin my day push it back and try and do things that are gonna like uplift me and or see my friends and have a chat with them mood will change and up i go like i just i'm quite a happy person so when i do feel

35:45Jamie Laing: sad i don't like it and what do you like with heartbreak so okay so my last one was

35:55Millie Court: how I dealt with that how did I deal with that I very much spent a lot of time with my friends and my family because being alone doesn't help um I probably partied quite a lot but as you do when you're single distract yourself yeah yeah distraction yeah that's I think a big thing for me is distraction because I think if I'm not thinking about it and I'm blocking that out I'm doing something else with my friends where I'm out and I'm drinking I'm socializing whatever it is and that's not always the best way to deal with it I think you do have to probably talk about how I feel and I think that's why therapy is good I mean I didn't go to therapy after my last one but before that I did and um yeah event it's time time's a healer right 100 % because I think that's

36:42Jamie Laing: I would imagine that's the scary thing for you right so you're going into this new relationship with with Zach right and that is now a public relationship yeah which is tricky right yeah and with your last relationship, that becoming like a public relationship as well. That's tricky, right? Because what you're saying is when you become a, you become, you become a brand together, you become a brand. And then there's so much pressure because you feel like if you're not together, then who are you? So you have to stay together, especially people from Love Island, that happens, right? Because you're stronger together.

37:15Jamie Laing: So maybe you stay in the relationship

37:17Millie Court: longer because you think it's better is that right i think so yeah there's but then i do think a lot of relationships break up because of that as well because it's too much to handle and i think you either fight against it or you and stay together or you don't and i think a lot of relationships come out and crumble at that point because it is too much and if you don't like each other enough or if there was a slight potential that you were in the show and you kind of was not faking it but like pretending to like them more I don't know there's a lot of relationships that don't last very long then you will fail at the first hurdle and I think what I found with my ex was that it was very true it was like we that was meant to happen and we managed to get past that and also when you're in there that kind of bond that you have especially the first time when you're no one before and now all of a sudden you're someone and like you're in the public experience together you go through it together and you've got yourself each other to lean on because my friends don't understand my family don't understand that I can't like they can't really relate to me in that sense so you lean on your partner with that and so you have this bond that no one else has other than you you're only two have just experienced that in that as a couple together obviously there's other couples but they have then they have that person it's like we could lean on each other over that and that very much made us quite strong.

38:44Millie Court: And yeah, probably things that, again, I clung on to because you think, oh no, this is meant to be because we met in such an extraordinary circumstance that I thought everything happens for a reason. I was meant to be with him. But yeah, the relationship was, I think we tried and it wasn't working. Yeah, so that ended.

39:05Jamie Laing: That was Liam. When you broke up, was it daunting being single again?

39:10Millie Court: I was quite excited.

39:13Jamie Laing: I was really excited. Because before you're not famous and then you're now famous but then single.

39:21Millie Court: Yeah, and I thought, wow, let's experience what this can be. I don't know. I think because I said on the show, it was kind of over before it was over and we tried to make it work and it just wasn't. So then at that point, I felt like I'm in the right place that I'm supposed to be right now and I'm single and let's have fun with it. Like, I was dating.

39:43Jamie Laing: Do you use dating apps?

39:45Millie Court: No, no. They were actually just people that I'd either met out or Instagram-diums. Yeah, someone slid in.

39:56Jamie Laing: Someone slid in?

39:57Millie Court: Yeah, yeah.

39:58Jamie Laing: What do they slide and say? Look, I know. Look, Zach, if you're listening, don't worry. It's all good, all right? This is just historical we're talking about.

40:09Millie Court: Exactly. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Well, actually, the one that slid in was sort of an ex, not an ex, but someone I used to see before the show the first time. All right, and what did he say? So he said, welcome back to the dark side. And I was like, oh, hey, yeah, I am back. Want to come over? Yeah. And I thought, well, if I'm going to see someone, then it might as well be someone that I already low-key know and I've met before so it doesn't feel awkward. and, you know, he kind of knew me before all the madness. So, yeah.

40:39Jamie Laing: And you want that home comfort a little bit, right?

40:41Millie Court: Yeah, exactly. And I didn't want to think, oh, I've got to meet someone new. But then after that, I dated someone else and it was a guy that I met in the bloody white horse in Parsons Creek. Was it really? It's amazing. Yeah. So I had fun with it. Like it was, I mean, I am a relationship person though. Like I very much am a lover girl. And when I'm in a relationship, I'm so focused. and I'm so on you and it's so exciting and it's like the best feeling in the world. I just think when you have a partner, it's amazing. So I can feel that on you.

41:13Jamie Laing: Honestly, I'm not just saying this to like, but I can feel your attention and your energy. It's so here.

41:21Millie Court: Yeah, yeah. It's so here.

41:23Jamie Laing: So I can feel you'd be such a good friend and such a good girlfriend or partner or whatever it is. Yeah, because you're there, innit?

41:30Millie Court: In it.

41:30Jamie Laing: But then that means you demand the respect from the other side as well.

41:35Millie Court: Yeah, of course. Because obviously there was that whole thing in the show, oh, does Zach like me as much as I like him? And everyone online has been saying that. I think that's because the way that I am in relationships, I'm so focused and I'm probably quite vocal about it as well. If something's on my mind, I would say it. Even if I think you look fit today, I'd be like, wow, you look so good today. I will just say what I think. And Zach's not as vocal as me. If he's feeling something or like, don't get me wrong, he says every day like, wow, you're so beautiful or whatever it is. But I think when we talk about the way we feel about each other, maybe I'm more vocal and I definitely was on the show and he's just so much more like, he's more nonchalant.

42:23Jamie Laing: And then what happens is the narrative becomes like, they go like, well, Millie's more keen.

42:26Millie Court: Yeah.

42:27Jamie Laing: She likes him more and he's not quite into it.

42:29Millie Court: Yeah, but I don't believe that at all because as well, a lot of my family said that towards the end when you coupled up, you wasn't getting that much airtime as a couple. I think probably because we stayed out the drama. So, you know, that was what was focused on. And actually, everyone in the villa, when that question came up, they were like, that doesn't make sense. We can all see how much Zach likes you and what he does. and you know there was one a couple of days I was a bit unwell because I had a bloody South African stomach bug and it was really bad yeah everyone got it

43:03Jamie Laing: how bad was it?

43:04Millie Court: bad both ends? no actually just one just yeah just that one just just down there the southern one and I actually slept in the beach hut one night which is the the worst one to get when in a new and I'm sleeping in bed with Zach I think I got up like five times throughout the night and I thought I actually have to sleep downstairs downstairs because if I shit this bed this is going to be awful like how and I actually said to him what are you going to do if I poo the bed and he was like probably laugh and announce it to the room and I was like yeah okay yeah I'll sleep downstairs then um but he wouldn't care but also I'd be embarrassed but like it was awful but anyway so I was going through that so when we'd have like a bit of like when we'd have lunch or maybe we'd have a bit of a break I'd go upstairs and have a nap because I wasn't sleeping very well and like he'd come bring me my water he would kiss me all over my face I was sleeping and I like I don't know he's just so forward with his emotions actions wise rather than speaking it and way better right yeah because it's showing you what you need exactly he's looking after me like he cared about it and of course he did say say it too but I think they didn't show those moments so then but they were showing me be all over him so it's like it's this narrative that was creative that's just kind of not there

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44:59Jamie Laing: Were you worried that the producers might bring in Liam?

45:03Millie Court: I was, yeah, worried. But I knew that he was focusing on creating a gym. He's just opened a business and I just didn't think that it would be something he would do. I don't think that we kind of would know that that wouldn't have worked on there. Like if he had gone on it, I wouldn't have gone on it, you know? And I think that we would have telepathically thought the same thing. Like it would be hard for me and it would be hard for him. So I don't know whether he knew whether or not I was going on it. So I'm not sure whether he maybe thought about it or had those chats. But yeah, I was worried.

45:47Millie Court: But I did say to the producers.

45:50Jamie Laing: I ain't got...

45:50Millie Court: Yeah.

45:51Jamie Laing: Yeah, fair enough. I did. Because you don't want it to be...

45:55Millie Court: You don't want it to be about that.

45:56Jamie Laing: I get it.

45:57Millie Court: I've already lived that. I've already done that together, the first series. Good on you. Yeah, and I just thought, that's not what this experience is about for me. I don't want to get back with him. I also don't feel like I need to be in the same... That's just a weird thing to do. Some people have done it. But I think hats off to you if you can do that and be in a villa with your ex. But for me, I don't want to do that. I just don't. And I said to the producers, if he was to come in, I would leave the show. Like if I was in there already and then he walked in and I made that very clear that I would leave.

46:34Millie Court: Yeah. So.

46:36Jamie Laing: So, put that in your pipe.

46:37Millie Court: Yeah.

46:41Jamie Laing: Can we also mention some of the arguments? because some of the arguments were.

46:44Millie Court: Yeah. Well, oh God, a lot of arguments.

46:47Jamie Laing: Lucinda argues a lot.

46:49Millie Court: All the girls, apart from myself and probably Leanne kind of stayed out of it as well. Everyone else, and Whitney as well. She tried to stay out of it as much as possible. Everyone else argued.

47:00Jamie Laing: They didn't, they? Yeah. But do you think a lot of it is down to because they want to create a great show or actually because they want to argue?

47:07Millie Court: Do you know what? It's hard, right? because the aim of the show is to meet someone. So if you're a bombshell and you come in, you have to tread on toes. And I think because the problem with all stars is we all low-key know each other. So then you have this thing like, oh, we're friends. So you shouldn't do that to a friend. But you have to realize who you actually count as a friend fully, as a true friend, or are you just someone that I see at events and we're influencers and that's just our job. So I feel like everyone sort of had this, like, you shouldn't do that to a friend mentality, but, like, we are actually in there to find someone.

47:47Jamie Laing: Totally. So you kind of got to do it, right?

47:49Millie Court: I think, like, for me, before going in, Sammy and Whitney were really close friends of mine. So I would never... They're great. Yeah. I love them both so much. I would never tread on any of their toes if it came to a guy.

48:03Jamie Laing: Because it's proper friendship.

48:04Millie Court: Because that's my actual friends. Everyone else, I was like, yeah. but I am a girl's girl so I think even being in there and after a couple of weeks or a week getting to know the girls I felt a bit awkward but luckily I was in a position where I met Zach in Villa USA so that there was no like I didn't have to tread on anyone's toes but like for other girls who come in and you do so then it brings tension

48:28Jamie Laing: but then what about Lucinda because you and Chloe were good friends with her no?

48:32Millie Court: yes yes we were yeah yeah yeah well so Jamie

48:41Jamie Laing: Don't make me cut something But it's interesting

48:43Millie Court: No It's not It's funny because Do you know what I've seen Online Everyone saying Or trying to think up Why Why did we Think we've fallen out Like We didn't fall out Like it was There was no falling out I have friends that You just distance from Because life happens Right You're maybe not on the same path she lived hours away me and Chloe lived in Essex she lived in Brighton and she travelled a lot so it was kind of that thing where oh we haven't seen each other three months oh now it's been six months and it wasn't anything bad and then online everyone's going oh she slept with Toby or she slept with Liam like it's all shit it's literally bullshit

49:26Jamie Laing: because that's what they say because your homie is Chloe right yeah exactly and Chloe is mad she's the greatest as well she's the best she's the best and the chat online is because she slept with Chloe's ex Toby.

49:38Millie Court: Yeah, like that is just so beyond the truth. It's a joke. Like that has not happened. And if that did happen, I wouldn't have been friends with Lucinda because that's not a girl's girl. That shit doesn't happen. Like you can't sleep with your best friend's ex. Like that is so against the rule. And if that was the case, like, yeah, I wouldn't have even entertained Lucinda. But I know for a fact that didn't happen.

50:02Jamie Laing: why do you think lucinda had a tricky time with relationships in there with other girls

50:10Millie Court: um i don't think people really understood lucinda um because i was friends with her before we were best friends like genuinely like we had like we left the show we had been on so many trips together we spent a lot of time like me her and chloe but chloe was a lot busier going to shoots whereas we did more like content Instagram style stuff so we could go on holiday and it would benefit us because of that's if you do holiday content if you're away that content always does really well so we use that a lot to go away and spend so much time together and I feel like I fully sort of I get Lucinda I do think that there was obviously things that she did wrong right and maybe maybe could have waited to a different like point or like pulled someone to the side to say it or or maybe just gone about things in a different way.

51:03Millie Court: So whenever that would happen, I would say that to her. I was never like, you know, oh, you're okay. That's right. It was like, okay, maybe you could have done this differently. But I just think that it was the way that I approached things. And some people wouldn't approach it in that way. Other people's approaches may be to raise their voice, you know, and that's fine. That's their personality. Everyone's different, right and it just clashed because I don't think Lucinda was scared to have an argument and she clashed with that and I think sometimes she thought what she did was right and that's the thing is when people argue it's because they don't understand each other's perspectives you they don't she doesn't get you you don't get her and like you both have different values or opinions on what should have gone on there and that's why you argue because you're clashing so if you can't understand then you're not going to have an

51:54Jamie Laing: It's very mature Yeah exactly that Yeah Are you confrontational?

51:59Millie Court: No

51:59Jamie Laing: Not at all Never have been

52:01Millie Court: Never I don't like arguing Really? I don't like If I feel a certain way I'd probably get more upset than angry I'd never get angry I'd be upset And then I would talk about it in a calm way like this You know It was like Okay let's talk to her about how I'm feeling Like you've This is my You've upset me These are the reasons why I'm having Yeah Are you sensitive? Yeah I am sensitive

52:24Jamie Laing: really definitely quite emotional so then so then how do you deal because when you put yourself out there into the public eye there's always there's good there's bad yeah there's ugly there's all these different things how do you deal with that if being a sensitive person i actually do really

52:40Millie Court: struggle with like the trolling and the comment side and it's something that i've spoken to my therapist about and she was right she put it into a good perspective she was like the people who are writing these things aren't happy people because if they were she was like she was are you happy and I'm like yeah she was like would you ever write something like that under someone's comic like photo no I never would and you when you think of the trolls I don't understand them because I never would right it's like they're probably not happy or they're going through something taken out on you they've woken up on the wrong side of the bed that day and she was like basically you know they're saying all press is good press she was like the people who are trolling you are are paying you basically like the more comments you get the more this and that the bigger you're gonna be right she was like you also can't be the person that you are now without the good and the bad she was like you can't have everything it can't all be perfect you can't be loved by everyone exactly she was like so of course you're gonna get the the negative and you're going to get the trolls.

53:47Millie Court: But that's making you who you are today and you're still getting jobs, you're getting paid.

53:51Jamie Laing: But what kind of things are they saying?

53:53Millie Court: It's been different over the years, but I think when I was with Liam, I'd get a lot of trolls of people saying that because of the whole Casa Amor situation, they'd say that I've got no respect for myself being with a guy who kissed another girl in Casa Amor and it was like, I'd known him three weeks, it wasn't even in a relationship. They'd like question me having respect for myself. They would question, they would troll me on if I put weight on. Like you get the, I think a lot of women probably go through that. Like she's pregnant, but no, I just like put on some weight. I get trolled. I got trolled for, I have like a bum chin.

54:34Millie Court: So like they would troll me about my chin. So I got filler in it to get rid of that. So I give into things and that's annoying for me. I shouldn't do that but I am sensitive to it and they'll even travel like my hair colour like oh that hair doesn't suit you so like change it and it's annoying and it does get to me so that's something that I need to deal with

54:56Jamie Laing: Firstly you're a beautiful amazing person right and what these trolls are saying is horrific and but when it's battering towards you every day it hurts right yeah of course I don't want it's very hard I know Where you just block it out and you're being brave and saying, well, I'll change this and change that because I have to try and believe what they're saying. And maybe then I start noticing it on myself. It's like, no, are you kidding me? That's just some very sad individual who's not having a happy time, who's making you feel bad because it makes them feel better.

55:26Millie Court: Yeah, I know. And if they're saying it over and over again, you're going to listen. You're going to be like, well, if a lot of people are thinking the same thing, if everyone thinks I'm pregnant, obviously I wasn't pregnant, It's like, oh, everyone thinks that I've put on weight or that I've got a belly or whatever. And you believe it. And it's really hard to then not, it's hard to not listen. Like, I don't really know how to not listen.

55:49Jamie Laing: Does that lead to then you maybe being unhealthy in that space or having an unhealthy relationship with your weight because you're just going, you know, he's good? Yeah, probably. Yeah, it's tough, right?

55:59Millie Court: It's really tough. I think the thing that I struggled with the most as well is I had really bad acne. and I would get trolled on that for having bad skin. And the only thing that I can say about that, right, is that when I see other people who have acne or whatever, like I don't focus on that. You see past whatever this is, right, and what you look like. The only thing I care about is that you're a nice person that we get on, that we're friends, or I love you because you're my family. Like you just don't see that. Like the people who pinpoint those things to you are one, not nice people, two people you shouldn't align yourself with or be around.

56:40Millie Court: And if anyone has anything bad to say about you, like that's not your person, you shouldn't be even interacting with them. So if you have friends who put you down, they're not your friends. If I have trolls, I shouldn't listen to them because the people that do care about you and love you who actually are important in your life, they would never say anything about the way that you look or the way what your weight is that's your decision if you're unhappy change it but if you like your weight and you like the way that you look don't let other people change that and make you think any different you just have to learn to love yourself you really do so how are you in that journey at the moment working on it you know I don't I wouldn't say actually I'm really close I think I think the older I've got I'm 30 this year and it's giving me a bit of a complex because I'm like I need to do all of this stuff before I'm 30 I need to sort my life out I want to see the world I'm going to travel with Zach but I also want to make sure I've got like I'm settled in with a partner because I don't want to be too you know be in my like mid-30s and not have someone or not have children or not be married right and then actually I'm just looking into perspective it's like I'm just putting I am putting this pressure on myself and I think in your 20s you just spend your life worrying about so much that actually you just need to live yeah

58:11Jamie Laing: trust me your 30s are the best years really I think so because 20s you're just you're clinging on

58:17Millie Court: you're all over the place

58:18Jamie Laing: you are all over the place and you don't know where you're going left, right, you have no idea. And then in your 30s, you suddenly go, okay, maybe I kind of get this spot. And then you, I mean, 30s for me have been amazing.

58:32Millie Court: Oh, good.

58:41Jamie Laing: If someone's thinking now that they're thinking, they're watching you and they're loving your career and you're an inspiration to them, to like follow in your path, would you say go and do Love Island?

58:50Millie Court: so it's funny you say that I put up on my snapchat one day and I was like I'm so grateful for Love Island everything that that they have done for me right the life that I've they've created for me basically and I would say anyone who wants to do it 100 % do and I got trolled by this woman who was like you should be influencing young girls to go and be doctors and nurses and like get these amazing jobs and like you're just influenced them to go on tv and be a slag I was like fucking hell I can't do anything right but I was like no I yeah be a slag I was like you're actually calling me a slag right great be a slag on tv whatever but like I thought that was laughable I think I said that to Zach and he was like what's a slag yeah oh my god what's a slag Yeah, there's some funny words I've been teaching him.

59:50Millie Court: But yeah, and I just thought, actually, it's okay. Those people who want to be doctors probably don't want to go on Love Island. I'm not telling everyone you should go on Love Island. But if it's something that you want to do and something you think would be a good experience, do it. Like, it's been amazing for me. It's changed my life in such a good way that I'm, yeah, I would say to anyone.

1:00:13Jamie Laing: I love that.

1:00:14Millie Court: Yeah, do it. I love it.

1:00:15Jamie Laing: I think it's so great to be such a supporter of something that has given you the roots, right? Everything, yeah. I'm completely like that. I just want to talk about Chloe for a second.

1:00:23Millie Court: Yeah. Aw, lover.

1:00:25Jamie Laing: You guys are besties, right?

1:00:27Millie Court: Besties.

1:00:29Jamie Laing: And your friendship, like I see online, is just like...

1:00:32Millie Court: Aw.

1:00:33Jamie Laing: Are you guys still living together? Yeah.

1:00:35Millie Court: Yeah, which is quite funny as well because we literally say that we're sisters. like it's like the relationship we have sometimes what's the saying ships passing in the night yeah like she'll be she'll be really busy working during the day and then I might have an event in the evening and they might go like a day or two where we don't see each other especially when she I had a long distance relation before so when I'd go to Wales and we wouldn't see each other then but we'd come home and it would be like it's like my sister's at home waiting for me and vice versa and it's just we have this amazing relationship honestly I don't know what I don't want to leave her I don't want to move out and we have no plans to do that anytime soon you know like she said because our rent is up like our tenancy is up in when was it March I think yeah she was like we're extending right I was like yes of course like I'm not leaving you I'm not ready to do that yeah but um yeah we've lived together three years she said that um your house is really messy yeah it is i've been trying no it's both of us i am actually quite messy so is she but that's why it works as well because we're both the same we just have a lot of stuff with inorganized messy places you know it's one of those i wouldn't say our house is dirty we do have a cleaner

1:01:57Millie Court: me and chloe are not the type to clean if anyone would clean it would be chloe she's better at than me. I don't actually know how to mop a floor because it goes streaky.

1:02:11Millie Court: But Chloe knows. She doesn't. Chloe knows. Yeah. But we just are metty people and also we are party girls so we go out a lot. We hung over. The takeaway bags probably have stayed there all day and don't get put in the bins until the next day.

1:02:28Jamie Laing: What do you guys go for?

1:02:29Millie Court: Or a lot of different ones. I think the most amount of times we've ordered on Uber Eats or Deliver Room one day was five. So it was breakfast, lunch and dinner and then in between that I think we ordered some like nice desserts and like some other snacks go like get some go puff for like Tesco's get some crisps and chocolate and sweets. Yeah, we're on a hangover. We just slob about watch films and eat.

1:02:52Jamie Laing: Has she met Zach?

1:02:53Millie Court: Yes, she has. She met him the day that we landed. Yeah, Thursday. So that was quite funny. I pre-warned Zach about her. it's like Chloe is crazy but we all love her for it and Zach he would never say a bad word about anyone though so yeah I'm not sure what he truly thinks but we're nutters together he hasn't seen me and Chloe properly yet but he's coming back

1:03:21Jamie Laing: because that is like intense yeah

1:03:24Millie Court: we are intense together we're just crazy together like I would say that she influences me to do bad things and it's the other way around too so us together we're just nutters like I think we just love life right and we love to drink so when we're together whereas Zach's not like a big drinker he used to be when he was like in his frat era but I don't know we'll see so

1:03:48Jamie Laing: are you going to go to America and see it? yeah

1:03:50Millie Court: we're going to so basically he's going to come back to the UK in a week and he's staying for like a month and then I fly to LA to go to Coachella and he's going to try and get tickets to. So then when I'm in LA, we're basically, I'm just going to stay in America and we're going to go to Arizona, Oregon, Vegas. I wouldn't just tour America throughout the summer. So it's going to be amazing. I can't wait.

1:04:14Jamie Laing: Well, on that note, I have a, uh, I have a game that I want to play with you.

1:04:18Millie Court: Oh, okay.

1:04:19Jamie Laing: So the game is I'm going to ask a sort of juicy Love Island question.

1:04:22Millie Court: Yeah.

1:04:23Jamie Laing: Okay. And you have to answer the question or risk it and take the USA trivia question instead.

1:04:29Millie Court: Oh, God. Okay. Yeah.

1:04:30Jamie Laing: Because you're dating an American. You need to know this trivia. Yeah. Okay. So if you get the USA question right, you don't have to answer the Love Island question. But if you get it wrong, you have to answer it.

1:04:38Millie Court: Okay. God, I'm so bad at pub quizzes.

1:04:42Jamie Laing: You already get this. So I'm going to do the Love Island question first. Okay. And then I'm going to say the USA question and see if you get it right. Okay. Who is the most annoying person to live with in the villa? Okay. And the question is, who won this year's Super Bowl? Seattle Seahawks or New England Patriots

1:05:02Millie Court: that's so bad as well because Zach loves Super Bowl and he actually said it the other day and I what's the two answers

1:05:08Jamie Laing: the Seattle Seahawks and the New England Patriots

1:05:10Millie Court: what happens if I get it wrong

1:05:12Jamie Laing: you have to answer okay

1:05:14Millie Court: so I'm going to go with the first one

1:05:17Jamie Laing: Seattle Seahawks

1:05:18Millie Court: yeah

1:05:19Jamie Laing: you're right

1:05:20Millie Court: yes I knew it and that rung a bell Yes.

1:05:27Jamie Laing: Okay, here we go. Who was the biggest game player on All Stars? The question is, which US city is known as the wedding capital of the world?

1:05:37Millie Court: Wedding capital of the world? I'm trying to think of cities.

1:05:40Jamie Laing: Yeah, city. Just one city.

1:05:43Millie Court: I'm going to take a guess. New York?

1:05:47Jamie Laing: Las Vegas.

1:05:48Millie Court: Oh my God, of course.

1:05:50Jamie Laing: Yeah, of course. Of course. Of course. Yeah, of course. It's not New York.

1:05:55Millie Court: Why did I say New York?

1:05:57Jamie Laing: New York.

1:05:58Millie Court: But yeah.

1:05:58Jamie Laing: Biggest game player in All Stars.

1:05:59Millie Court: So I answered that question in the show and we voted for Scott. Scott, love him. I think he is great, but he has been on loads of times. Could argue that could also be Lucinda. But I think he got the game better than Lucinda did. And he kind of would figure out timelines and things. And yeah. Not that he did everything in there to play the game, but I think if anyone would be, it would be him.

1:06:28Jamie Laing: Do you think him and Leanne will last?

1:06:31Millie Court: I actually do. Oh, nice. Yeah, I think that they had a really good connection in there. They were basically coupled up since day one. Don't get me wrong. Obviously, he, you know, went off with whoever. But him and Leanne just make sense. And you can just see the connection that they have. So I do believe that.

1:06:50Jamie Laing: Do you think Lucinda will last in her relationship? Yes.

1:06:54Millie Court: Yeah. Yeah, they are literally boy and girl version of each other. Like, they are perfect for each other. Honestly, every single one of the finalist couples, I believe, truly like each other and are great matches for each other. Yeah.

1:07:11Jamie Laing: Like that. Okay, who got the worst edit in the series? Your question is, how many stripes are on the American flag?

1:07:23Twelve.

1:07:24Jamie Laing: Close. 13. Oh, that's so annoying. That's not bad. I would have no idea. Who do you think got the worst edit?

1:07:35Millie Court: Belle. Really? Yeah. I feel like she obviously is quite loud, you know, but I do think that all of the hate and stuff that she's getting, it's not fair. like just because someone's louder than than someone else like she shouldn't I don't think it's

1:07:59Jamie Laing: nice I hear you and I know that it's I thought she's great yeah I just I love her I honestly

1:08:05Millie Court: love her and I think she's so emotionally intelligent as well like that's think something that me and Zach really got on with Belle with like we could have such a mature conversation about lots of things and she's very intelligent. She's just really lovely and I will definitely see Belle after the show. I think certain people might not see each other but she's someone that I'd like to see. Okay, last one.

1:08:34Jamie Laing: Who was the bombshell guy that you were desperate to come in?

1:08:37Millie Court: Okay.

1:08:38Jamie Laing: What do Americans celebrate on the 4th of July?

1:08:42Millie Court: Thanksgiving. No.

1:08:46Jamie Laing: in Independence Day. Similar. Similar.

1:08:53Millie Court: I know nothing about America. I'm so sorry, Zach. He can teach me. Fuck's sake.

1:08:59Jamie Laing: Bombshell, who are you hoping? Go on.

1:09:05Millie Court: Okay. I said that I fancied Jack Fowler. Yep.

1:09:13Jamie Laing: Better about that.

1:09:17Millie Court: But like, he's like my type, right? Yeah, yeah. Like he's tall, he's grown out, he's fit. Good looking, yeah. Yeah. But a lot of the girls requested him. What?

1:09:26Jamie Laing: Like an Argos catalogue?

1:09:30Millie Court: You have to write it in your form.

1:09:32Jamie Laing: You write it in the form?

1:09:34Millie Court: Yeah, yeah. You have to write who you want to come in. Yeah. So we were all asking everyone, who did you write? Who did you write? Who do you want to come in? So we all thought, because then the girls were like, oh yeah, I wrote him too. but they never did.

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1:10:26Can I just say, listen, when I speak to you, what I love so much

1:10:30Jamie Laing: is the openness and the honesty. That's why you do so well on these shows because who I'm seeing across from now is exactly who you are on the show. That's so amazing.

1:10:41Millie Court: Thank you for having me.

1:10:43Jamie Laing: Oh my God, you're amazing. Listen, we like to end the conversation with eight questions. Are you ready for this?

1:10:47Millie Court: Yeah.

1:10:47Jamie Laing: What's the saying or phrase that makes you smile or cheers you up? Carpe diem. Seize the day? Yeah. Okay, I like it. Best compliment anyone's ever given you?

1:10:57Millie Court: Probably Zach saying the thing, one of the things he loves most about me is my brain and my way of thinking. I was like, no one's ever said that before. That's really nice.

1:11:07Jamie Laing: Because you're level.

1:11:08Millie Court: Yeah.

1:11:08Jamie Laing: I think you think about things in like a diplomatic way. I do.

1:11:11Millie Court: Yeah, and he likes that, so that's nice.

1:11:14Jamie Laing: What scares you most about yourself?

1:11:17Millie Court: My insecurities of, you know, the way that I look and sort of listening to those trolls online, probably.

1:11:24Jamie Laing: But you know you're beautiful.

1:11:26Millie Court: Oh, thank you.

1:11:27Jamie Laing: But you do, right? And you're funny and you're smart and all those things. So why would you believe these random people who don't even, they know nothing. I know. They know literally nothing. and they're just sitting there just typing away because they just feel like Silly Yeah

1:11:42Millie Court: It is really silly

1:11:44Jamie Laing: When was the last time you cried?

1:11:46Millie Court: Last time I cried was at the airport when I came home and saw my mum and my sisters Really? Were they waiting for you there? Yeah they were waiting and I just had missed them so much and I just had burst into tears Yeah What did they say

1:12:00Jamie Laing: when they saw you?

1:12:01Millie Court: We just screamed and cried for about a minute two minutes and my mum oh bless her if my mum cries I will cry like my mum and me my mum and my sister so I've got my sister who's my mum and my dad and then I have my step sister but she's been my sister since I was like four so she's my sister she's a sister yeah when I'm at home when it's my birthday or my sister's birthday my mum we always take the day off and we'll always in the morning have Bucks Fizz do presents and cards right and every birthday without fail all three of us will cry by reading each other's cards like we get so emotional I cry on my birthday every year and it's because mum will write this lovely message or I'll write a lovely message to my mum and we just she cries I cry then my sisters cry and we're all crying so we're just quite emotional people I think that's amazing yeah bless them

1:12:54Jamie Laing: what's something you can't let go of?

1:12:58Millie Court: my pineapple ice lost Mary wait what?

1:13:07Millie Court: do you know what that is? it's a vape

1:13:15Millie Court: how good is it it's good it's the pineapple ice favor and the brand is Los Merri

1:13:20Jamie Laing: okay nice

1:13:20Millie Court: and that's on me at all times

1:13:22Jamie Laing: and if you wake up in the middle of the night to take a pee no

1:13:25Millie Court: I don't wake up in the middle of the night you don't no I sleep when I'm asleep I'm out but it is one of the first things I do when I wake up in the morning do you know what I'm so annoyed with myself though because I quit. Yeah. I was the only person that vaped in my series four or five years ago. Right? And I was bad with it, but I stopped probably for about a year.

1:13:51Jamie Laing: Congrats.

1:13:52Millie Court: Last year. And then on the show, the only time you get a bit of peace and quiet is if you vape or smoke. So I said, yes, I vape. So that I could go outside and just be alone. So then I obviously had to tell them. They got me vapes and I got back vaping again. I'm going to stop. Okay. Yeah.

1:14:12Jamie Laing: What's your guilty pleasure? Marmite. Out of nowhere? Are you serious? Marmite. Marmite. With butter or straight up?

1:14:23Millie Court: I love it so much.

1:14:24Jamie Laing: I like it. Just Marmite straight up butter? No.

1:14:27Millie Court: Loads of butter with it. Yeah, butter, yeah. Yeah, but I got Zach to try it. He hates it. He didn't like it. And then I put a TikTok up and everyone was like, it's disgusting. How do you like it? Love it. I'm like, I don't know that many people that like Marmite. I love Marmite. Me too.

1:14:39Jamie Laing: With peanut butter?

1:14:40Millie Court: No. No. No, no. I would actually eat Marmite out of the jar. That's how much I love it. Really? Yeah. Sometimes if I'm peckish, I just get a little spoon and lick it and eat it. Yeah.

1:14:53Jamie Laing: What turns you off?

1:14:55Millie Court: Short people.

1:15:02Millie Court: So you, Jamie.

1:15:07Millie Court: no I'm joking but I honestly I've got this thing with like like with guys if you're sure I'm not even entertaining you it's so good there was this one guy how short

1:15:22Jamie Laing: how short are we

1:15:23Millie Court: just anything shorter than me so I'm five foot eight yeah and it's actually the same height it has to be has to be up there

1:15:32Jamie Laing: so Danny DeVito

1:15:35Millie Court: No.

1:15:35Jamie Laing: No, that's not.

1:15:36Millie Court: No, hell no. Okay. No, no.

1:15:38Jamie Laing: But what about, so where was Curtis? He was quiet.

1:15:40Millie Court: Curtis was taller than me. Yeah, by a bit. Charlie was shorter than I'd like.

1:15:45Jamie Laing: What turns you on?

1:15:49Millie Court: Emotional maturity. Let's go. Yeah.

1:15:52Jamie Laing: Okay. What do you like most about yourself?

1:15:58Millie Court: Probably.

1:16:02Millie Court: What I like most. probably that I am a happy person and I feel like I'm good to be around.

1:16:09Jamie Laing: 100%. Bonus, who's your hall pass? Justin Bieber. Short. Well, that's completely against your rules. Are you joking? Are you joking?

1:16:21Millie Court: Justin Bieber? Do you know why? Yeah, but he was like, I would say he's my first love.

1:16:28Jamie Laing: Are you one of those people like when you see him on TikTok with Hayley, you're like, no, that's unfair. Yeah. Like low key. Low key like, why are you with my fucking boyfriend?

1:16:37Millie Court: I'm like, I need to ask my husband one day. But I've literally loved him since he's began. Like I'm his number one OG fan. I had a Twitter fan account of him. What was it called? He followed me. Yeah. Followed me on it. It was called. Actually, I'm not going to say what it's called.

1:16:58Jamie Laing: No, go on. Say what it's called. No,

1:17:00Millie Court: because he's going to find out. No, because the public will find out and then you'll go through my old tweets and it's embarrassing. It is not something that I want out there. People actually found it when I was on Love Island the first time because I said it on the show when someone found it. Anyway.

1:17:18Jamie Laing: But how obsessive is it?

1:17:19Millie Court: It was obsessive. I had not one single white space on my wall. It was filled with posters. I even had a poster of him on my ceiling. Yes, I'd wake up in the morning, here's the first thing I see.

1:17:30Jamie Laing: Would you know it? were you one of the fans who knew everything about him? Like, everything? Everything. Do you know what time he was born?

1:17:35Millie Court: No, I don't know that, actually.

1:17:36Jamie Laing: Do you know what hospital he was born in?

1:17:38Millie Court: I know he was born in Canada.

1:17:40Jamie Laing: Okay, that's good. Yeah. Because he is Canadian. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:17:44Millie Court: I'm sure I know, I should know the town that he's from, but it's been a while since I brushed up on my Justin Bieber, you know, knowledge.

1:17:52Jamie Laing: Millie, thank you, man. Honestly.

1:17:53Millie Court: Thanks for having me.

1:17:54Jamie Laing: Yeah, everyone who's listening, like, obviously a big fan, if you've just, like, come across me, go and check out your Instagram, go and check out your Twitter, Go and check out everything you're doing. I can just see you going to heights. So congratulations. And you're just the best. I really appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having me. I really enjoyed this. You're the best. Thank you so much.

1:18:09Millie Court: Thank you.

1:18:15Jamie Laing: Guys, I hope you enjoyed that episode. I mean, I'm a huge Love Island fan. Honestly, one of the things you get to watch every single night. Honestly, all year around Love Island, I would watch. Millie, if you're listening, thank you so much for coming on, talking about what it's like in the villa, talk about those relationships, talk about the insecurities that you feel as a human, right? Sometimes I think we see people online or on TV and we forget that they're actual people. So just try and be nice. Also, if you really enjoyed this episode, you should go and listen to Chloe Burrows episode, who is Millie's best friend.

1:18:48Jamie Laing: It's amazing. We'll leave the link in the show description. Go and click on that. And also remember to subscribe to the show. And we're going to see you next week on Wednesday for another episode of Great Company.

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From the publisher

Millie Court first captured the nation’s heart when she won Love Island Series 7 back in 2021. Since then, she’s built a successful career while navigating a relationship and a break-up, all in the public eye.


She won us over all over again when she returned to our screens for this year’s Love Island All Stars. I was obsessed with the series, so you can imagine how excited I was to sit down with her for her first podcast interview since leaving the villa.


In this episode, Millie shares:

  • Her take on all the drama in the Love Island All Stars villa
  • What really happened between Chloe and Lucinda after Series 7
  • Navigating a public break-up and how she came out the other side
  • Dealing with online trolls and comments about her appearance
  • Why things feel different with Zac and their plans for the future


Millie is a ray of sunshine and this conversation shows exactly why so many people fell in love with her in the first place.


Millie Court is Great Company.


If you love Millie's episode, you'll love Chloe Burrows' episode too. Listen HERE!


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Executive Producer: Ewan Newbigging-Lister

Producer: Helen Burke

Assistant Producer: Issy Weeks-Hankins

Video: Jake Ji & Josh Bennett

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