In short
The episode argues that J.D. Vance is hypocritical and “imploding” after leaked pre-Trump texts resurface, and that the Trump administration and allies incite political violence while blaming the left. It also claims “words don’t cause violence” and points to gun culture and right-wing radicalization as drivers.
Guests/backgrounds
The hosts are unnamed in the transcript; one speaker (“Pumps”) says they found “examples” of Vance hypocrisy. Another speaker mentions Kash Patel and Fox News. A third speaker discusses Vance’s ties to Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin, and compares Trump/Vance to authoritarian tactics.
Key claims
Vance lied about stopping political violence; he blamed “radical left rhetoric” without evidence; leaked texts call Trump’s rise the party’s fault and compare Trump to Nixon or “America’s Hitler.” The episode alleges Vance’s cruelty/immigration shift stems from Peter Thiel influence. It cites Trump’s comments about ICE detainees and “terror” for ICE agents.
Notable examples
Vance’s speech urging people to “look in the mirror” and stop calling dissenters Nazis; Trump’s alleged Oval Office remarks about an ICE facility shooting and “anti-ICE” engraved bullets; the FBI director’s social media about engraved bullets and a handwritten note; Stephen Miller’s claim that language incites violence (responded to by the hosts).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCritique of J.D. Vance's Character
0:05 to 1:26
Discussion of J.D. Vance's actions and statements, highlighting his hypocrisy.
“Vance is just the biggest ass kisser, sycophant, psychopath in the federal government, aside from Stephen Miller.”
Examining Vance's Texts About Trump
1:26 to 2:39
Analysis of leaked texts from J.D. Vance discussing Trump and the GOP.
“But this is a man that this that these people, the hypocrisy and did did they ever say it was the detainees that were shot?”
The Role of Rhetoric in Political Violence
2:39 to 6:27
Exploring how political rhetoric contributes to violence and the blame game in politics.
“without due process, there would not be comparisons.”
J.D. Vance's Shift to Authoritarianism
6:27 to 8:34
Discussion on how Vance's proximity to power has changed his political stance.
“He married someone that was a first generation American, and now he goes after these people relentlessly.”
The Impact of Governance on Civil Liberties
8:34 to 9:37
Discussion on how current governance affects civil liberties and protests.
“I don't know with Peter Thiel or with others, but, and then he comes back and Trump is their vehicle to do this.”
Gavin Newsom's Opposition to Authoritarianism
9:37 to 11:22
Examining Gavin Newsom's actions against the current regime and his role in opposition.
“Radicalization on the internet cause violence.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04Smoky-eyes, sociopath, failed drag queen, vice president of the United States, we call him here at Ihipnews, Lil Smoky. J.D. Vance is just the biggest ass kisser, sycophant, psychopath in the federal government, aside from Stephen Miller. And he is so quick to try to blame the left for an uptick in violence. And there's no evidence that any of these shooters are leftists. in my opinion, is to the contrary. Everything I look at seems to be MAGA gun culture that they grew out of. But Pumps has found some examples of Lil Smoky's hypocrisy. Pumps, what can you share with us? Okay, so J.D. Vance yesterday, as we know, absolutely lied his ass off.
0:54You cannot trust a word this man says. And this is what he said when he gave a speech surrounding the issue of political violence. Stop political violence. Stop attacking our law enforcement as the Gestapo. If you want to stop political violence, stop telling your supporters that everybody who disagrees with you is a Nazi. If you want to stop political violence, look in the mirror. That's the way that we stop political violence in this country, and we've got to do it. Little Smokey needs to look in the mirror first. That eyeliner was way too heavy. But this is a man that this that these people, the hypocrisy and did did they ever say it was the detainees that were shot?
1:36No, of course he didn't. He kept saying it was law enforcement officers. OK, this is a private text that J.D., before he went to Peter Thiel's gay camp and got queer, this is what he had to say about Trump. J.D., quote J.D. Vance, but I'm surprised by Trump's rise. And I think the party has only itself to blame. We are, whether we like it or not, the party of lower income, lower education white people. And I have been saying that for a long time, that we need to offer these people something and tell maybe even expand our appeal to working class black people in the process or a demagogue world.
2:17We are now at that point. Trump is the fruit of the party's collective neglect. I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon, who wouldn't be that bad and might even prove useful, or that he's America's Hitler. How's that for discouraging? And I just want to remind everybody, if you weren't acting like the Gestapo, if you weren't putting the military in cities to pick up trash and intimidate people, if you weren't shipping people off to Alligator Alcatraz without due process, there would not be comparisons. But this is a part of the play. The play is to do Nazi shit, to consolidate power.
3:05And then at the same time, they're playing offense and say, you can't call out what we're doing. This is psychological warfare on their part. They're doing all of Nazi shit, authoritarian shit, Gestapo-like shit. But they're also at the same time trying to blame the left and also saying, you can't call us that. That's what's inciting all of this. Them doing this as a part of the propaganda plan. This is all a part of the plan to say that. Well, and do you think that's why they go off immediately and say, this is somebody from the left that did that? Oh, immediately. Immediately. So that they can then say, see, they're the problem and only we can save you from them.
3:46You're right. And Kash Patel is a willing participant in all this. And so after you hear on Fox News on wash, rinse, repeat, how terrible the left is, and you have to tone down the rhetoric. rhetoric. Just tone down the rhetoric. This is what Trump says in the Oval fucking office. There was another shooting at an ICE facility in Texas yesterday. Detainees were killed. The FBI director posted on social media bullets that were engraved with the message anti-ICE. He just posted another thing on social media saying they recovered a handwritten note from the subject that read, hopefully this will give ICE agents real terror to think, Is there a sniper with AP rounds on that roof?
4:26Who do you hold responsible for the uptick in the left-wing violence? Radical left rhetoric. The radical left is causing the problem. They're out of control. They're saying things. And they're really dumb people. I mean, I look at Crockett. I look at some of these people. They're very low IQ people, actually. But the radical left is causing this problem. Not the right, the radical left. And it's going to get worse. and ultimately it's going to go back on them. I mean, bad things happen when they play these games. And I'll give you a little clue. The right is a lot tougher than the left. But the right's not doing this.
5:04They're not doing it. And they better not get them energized because it won't be good for the left. And I don't want to see that happen either. I'm the president of all the people. But the radical left is causing this. The radical left Democrats are causing this problem. And it gets worse. It's worse. And it'll be a point where other people won't take it anymore. And that will not be good for the radical left. To me, that sounds like a man who knows that all he has to do to rile up his Second Amendment proud boy gun nut base is he just has to say the word. And, you know, this this man is so unlikable.
5:47unlikable. And the fact that so many people like him, I guess we can look to history because a lot of these, you know, dictators have this personality. But the collapse of J.D. Vance is more interesting to me. Trump has always been like this. He's unchanged. People have known him forever, so there's zero change in him. He fails businesses. He's a compulsive liar. He's incredibly insecure. He's a cheater. All of that. J.D. Vance and the Marco Rubios, Those are the people that it's more interesting to me that once they got around such a villain like Trump, they themselves will help execute this man's evil plans.
6:25J.D. Vance wrote in the law review about protecting immigration. He married someone that was a first generation American, and now he goes after these people relentlessly. Is it the proximity to power? is that once they get into the cruelty, they just like it. Do they want his praise? Do they want these MAGA people to love him? Like I can't wrap my head around it. I just, I think he got radicalized by Peter Thiel. I mean, my personal opinion is JD Vance is probably bisexual and, or, and, or gay. And, um, and he, even he thought he was gay when he was little, that's in his book. and there's he then he goes to Peter Till Peter Till has put on a seminar about the Antichrist a four-part which is a really weird thing to be obsessed with but Peter Till has this really weird combination of like psycho Christian out of the closet gay man that's married with children he and his husband have and then he had a lover that it that was a part of the situation that This lover killed himself because he was so tortured by this relationship with Peter Thiel, allegedly.
7:41But I mean, the lover did kill himself. But and friends say it was because he was so tortured by this relationship with Thiel, this affair with Thiel. And then J.D. Vance gets in Peter Thiel's orbit. Peter Thiel owns Palantir. and Peter Till and this other guy, Yarvin, Curtis Yarvin, they have this plan for the United States to be like this super techie country that's ruled by an executive, a CEO, aka a king. And they have decided that they don't think democracy is good. And they know that it's such unpopular opinion that they could never win an election on that. So in my opinion, J.D. Vance, because of his own personal brokenness, fell prey to this crazy ass thing, money, access to probably the type of sex that he wants to truly have.
8:32And he was able to do that out with Peter Thiel. I don't know with Peter Thiel or with others, but, and then he comes back and Trump is their vehicle to do this. I think that's why Trump is always so preoccupied with all these decorating jobs, which I just saw that over a shoulder. It was so bad. I also think it was a threat to the people that are protesting. We're going to come in pistols blazing and we're going to police you. And it's just a way to peel back civil liberties, protest, free speech. I mean, we see it. They're not scared to do it. They're dying to do it. I agree. They're waiting for a reason to do it.
9:10And if they can't, if people can't get out and vote and protest, then the midterms can't happen. And we know ultimately authoritarians don't like to leave power. And then I just, I want to just say this, Stephen Miller, I find him to be so repulsive. And in my opinion, words don't cause violence. Guns cause violence. Radicalization on the internet cause violence. The data says 75 % of these people are right wingers because they like the cruelty. So Stephen Miller has this to say in response to Gavin Newsom pointing out, like Jennifer said, pointing out what they're doing is the issue, but they, because they don't want to talk about what they're doing.
9:58So Stephen Miller, who is, he says the language incites violence and terrorism because Gavin Newsom calls ICE arresting illegal aliens, authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government. Okay. Authoritarian government. If you don't want to be called an authoritarian, do not use Hitler's playbook straight down the list. Do not go the way of every authoritarian and Stephen Miller, shut the fuck up. You love the violence because you love the cruelty and you love the hatred. And I'm just, I'm enraged by people. Nobody's talking about gun legislation. So that's never going to happen in a Trump administration.
10:38That's so abortion rights, healthcare, the gun problem, none of that shit we're going to be able to talk about because we have to fight for democracy. Their whole plan pumps is to dismantle it. Their number one thing is getting the enemy from within. They really don't have any foreign policy except for bailing out Israel and bailing out Argentina. And then their domestic policy is breaking as much of America as we possibly can, complete isolationism, and then incarcerating liberals, the president's enemies, incarcerating them. I believe Kash Patel, that bullet thing, I think he went like this.
11:25I agree. You guys, I think he went anti-eyes. Oh, here, guys, take a pick. And it's up in 25 minutes. I don't believe one fucking thing coming out of this administration. And they want it that way. And they're going to keep doing this. And I think you had a really good point about us being scared of protesting because they want to be able to shoot out it. We know that Esper, I think his name was, and Trump 1.0. there were people protesting in front of the oval office i'm in front of the white house and trump asked the guy i think he was the department yeah he was he asked him he asked him can i can you just take these people out like shoot them below the knee yeah and the guy was like no you cannot shoot people that are peacefully protesting so they like did tear gas and they cleared it out and that's when trump walked across the street and held the bible up upside down down And so this is, you know, Trump 1.0 was a rehearsal.
12:22And now this is the real thing. And I have to say about Gavin Newsom, there's certain things like right after Trump one where I was like, God, Gavin, what the fuck? Right now, the bar for me and loving any person is what kind of fire and opposition do you show this regime? And Gavin Newsom is fighting. J.B. Pritzker is fighting. And anybody who's fighting, I will put whatever political disagreements we have in a normal democracy completely on hold. And I will join your team to fight this because that's how urgent I think this is. Absolutely agree. Speaking of holding the Bible upside down, here is the Life is a Lazy Susan of Shit Sandwiches right side up.
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