Recreating “Psycho” shower scene 15x per day | Forward Progress

26 Feb 2026 · 9 min · 5 chapters

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Episode Title

Recreating “Psycho” Shower Scene 15x per Day | Forward Progress

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Summary In this episode, actress Cheryl Hines discusses her humble beginnings, her journey to becoming an actress, and the challenges she faced along the way. She recounts her experiences with early jobs in acting, particularly a demanding role at Universal Studios where she recreated the iconic shower scene from Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho." Cheryl also reflects on her supportive family, the struggles with self-doubt, and her eventual move to Los Angeles.

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Key Discussions

Early Life and Background

  • Humble Beginnings:
  • Grew up without much money and shared a bed with her mother.
  • Attended cosmetology school initially to fund her college education.

Academic Journey

  • Shift in Focus:
  • Changed her major from acting to film and television production, allowing her to bartend at night to support herself.

First Job at Universal Studios

  • Recreating the “Psycho” Scene:
  • Performed the shower scene approximately 15 times a day.
  • Wore a flesh-colored bodysuit and worked with a volunteer audience member acting as a murderer.
  • Described the experience as both "crazy" and "fun," allowing her to gain confidence in her craft.

Challenges and Rejections

  • Audition for "Swamp Thing":
  • Auditioned four times and faced feelings of inadequacy after repeated rejections.
  • Had a pivotal conversation with her sister, who reminded her that rejection is inherent in the acting profession.
  • Shifted her mindset to focus on being a good actor rather than just securing roles.

Family Support

  • Mother's Encouragement:
  • After losing her stepfather, her mother encouraged Cheryl to pursue her dreams in Los Angeles.
  • This conversation was pivotal in Cheryl’s decision to move and pursue her acting career.

Emotional Sentiments

  • Sibling Support:
  • Cheryl shared heartwarming notes from her siblings before leaving for LA, which provided motivation during her journey.
  • Described the emotional weight of these notes and their lasting significance in her life.

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Key Takeaways

  • Resilience in Acting:
  • The acting profession is fraught with rejection, and learning to cope with it is vital for long-term success.
  • Importance of Family:
  • Support from family can be a crucial element in pursuing one’s dreams, especially during tough times.
  • Emotional Connections:
  • Personal stories and connections play a significant role in shaping an individual's path and can be a source of strength.

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Conclusion Cheryl Hines’s story is one of perseverance, familial love, and the realities of pursuing a career in acting. Her reflections serve as an inspiration for anyone facing challenges in their journey and highlight the importance of maintaining a positive mindset in the face of adversity.

For more in-depth interviews, listeners are encouraged to explore the show's extensive library on YouTube.

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Cheryl's Experience with Psycho

1:10 to 2:18

Cheryl Hines shares her memories of performing the Psycho shower scene repeatedly.

“I think your first job in acting was at Universal Studios.”

The Challenges of Rejection in Acting

2:18 to 4:26

Cheryl discusses the emotional struggles of auditioning and dealing with rejection.

“And then there was the Swamp Thing audition, which I think you tried out for four times.”

Encouragement from Family

4:26 to 5:53

Cheryl recounts a pivotal conversation with her mother that influenced her career path.

“audition can't be to get that job or you're not a good actor or you're not a good person.”

Moving to Los Angeles

5:53 to 8:18

Cheryl reflects on the emotional journey of moving to LA and the support from her siblings.

“Looking back now, how pivotal was that conversation that she had with you?”

Siblings' Support and Love Notes

8:18 to 9:59

Cheryl shares heartfelt notes from her siblings that motivated her during her move.

“Travel with the knowledge that I love you as much as anything in the world.”
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0:52Cheryl Hines:Sip for yourself. Shop Virtuo Up exclusively at Nespresso.com. Hey, it's Thursday, which means we're coming at you with a short, feel-good story from a past guest. Hope you enjoyed the clip. This week, Cheryl Hines. I think your first job in acting was at Universal Studios. What do you remember from having to perform that, I think it was a shower scene from Psycho, like 15 times a day?

1:24Graham Bensinger:Yeah, yeah. What do I remember?

1:29Graham Bensinger:Well, it was crazy. It was fun. So I wore a flesh-colored bodysuit, and then they had a shower set that would roll out to the middle of the soundstage, and then they opened the walls, and then they would show how Alfred Hitchcock shot the shower scene, and it was a camera trust with different cameras and me and a volunteer from the audience that would act like he was stabbing me with a rubber knife. Yeah, and that's what I did for a few years. I couldn't have been happier to do it.

2:11Cheryl Hines:But that was, it was motivating.

2:14Graham Bensinger:Very motivating, yeah.

2:16Cheryl Hines:Getting your foot in the door kind of with that. And then there was the Swamp Thing audition, which I think you tried out for four times. But after the third time, when you just aren't in a good place, you have a conversation with your sister. What does she say to you? Yeah, I said to my sister, I said, I don't, you know, I don't know what to do.

2:39Graham Bensinger:I mean, maybe I'm not a good actress. I can't even get, I can't even get cast in Swamp Thing. And I'm so depressed. And she said, yeah, you should probably quit.

2:53Cheryl Hines:And were you really, like, genuinely depressed at that time?

2:56Graham Bensinger:Yeah, that was, Swamp Thing was the only show shooting in Orlando at the time, and it was, you know, I felt like I really needed a role in that.

3:09Cheryl Hines:What are you thinking about when you're in that moment?

3:14Graham Bensinger:I was just tying my self-worth to not getting an acting job. so then it's not just with everything so oh I'm not I'm not a good actor I'm doing everything wrong you know you just feel like what am I doing and yeah my sister said you've chosen a career where most of most of the things that you audition for you are not going to get. It's going to be rejection. You've chosen a career of rejection. And if you're going to get so sad every time you don't get an acting job, then you shouldn't do it. That's a terrible life to live. And I, you know, really listened to her and I thought, oh, she's right.

4:10Graham Bensinger:That's going to be a long life. And so then it really switched my way of thinking.

4:18Cheryl Hines:How so?

4:21Graham Bensinger:It helped me understand that the rejection is part of the process. The goal of every audition can't be to get that job or you're not a good actor or you're not a good person. So I started, it just shifted. So I was like, oh, right. It's really about being a good actor. And it kind of doesn't matter if you get the job or not.

4:44Cheryl Hines:Why did your mom basically say she'll never forgive you unless you move cross country?

4:52Graham Bensinger:Wow, you're really doing this. Okay.

4:55Cheryl Hines:We can skip that.

4:56Graham Bensinger:No, no, it's sweet to think about it because I haven't thought about it in so long. Well, you know, my mom and my stepfather and anybody who knew me knew that I wanted to move out to L.A. And so I had I mean, I had basically sold everything and was ready to go. And then my stepfather, Dan, was diagnosed with liver cancer. So I stayed, and I stayed to be with them, to be with my mom. And then after he passed, she was so sad. And, I mean, I was sad as well. So after a while, my mom said, you know, she said, you have to go to Los Angeles, and I'm going to be okay.

5:50Graham Bensinger:So I believed her, and I did.

5:53Cheryl Hines:Looking back now, how pivotal was that conversation that she had with you?

6:04Graham Bensinger:It was very. It was very because, you know, when you're young and you lose a parent, that's all you can see for a long time. And so to have my mother say, you're still doing what you said you were going to do and what you've wanted to do, it was a good encouragement, to say the very least, just to remind myself, oh, yeah, my life is going on and I should move forward.

6:44Cheryl Hines:Tell about the Toyota Tercel and the notes that your siblings wrote you for the ride.

6:51Graham Bensinger:I'm so close to my siblings. I lost one of my brothers. But I have two brothers. Chris has passed away. And my sister, Becky. Chris, Becky, and Michael. And, you know, it was hard for me to move. It was really hard for me to leave. I didn't have much money. And I was leaving my family. I was leaving everything I loved. And they were so cute and sweet. And they wrote notes to me. And so every day on the road, I got to open one of the notes from one of them. And I have them framed in my office because it meant so much to me at the time. Okay, this is for my sister Becky. It says, share. Be safe, happy, and motivated in LA.

7:47Graham Bensinger:I'll be seeing you. Okay. I'll be seeing you soon. Okay. I'll be seeing you soon. I can't even read this. Okay. But until then, I'll carry you in my heart. as always and see your smile in everything beautiful. Travel with the knowledge that I love you as much as anything in the world. And it's for my sister. Oh, yay, yay! Why did we do this? This is ridiculous.

8:28Cheryl Hines:What about that all these years later still gets to you? Um, I mean, because we were pretty young.

8:40Graham Bensinger:you know, when she wrote this and she still, she, this still captures her. Like this is who she is. Oof. She, you know, gives me superpowers. Oh no. Oh, God. Okay, what am I doing? Okay, this is from Chris and April. Oh no, I haven't read these in so long. This is gonna be hard. Uh, Cher. Good luck and hope all your dreams come true. We are going to miss you, but you know we'll always be as close as the nearest phone. This will be a good reason for April and I to make it out to LA. We are already halfway there. Remember, you will always have, you will always, you will always be in our hearts. Love, Chris and April.

9:42Graham Bensinger:And it's interesting because when I was driving, I couldn't wait till the next day to read the notes.

9:46Cheryl Hines:It's cool that you have them all these years later too.

9:50Graham Bensinger:Yeah, they still stand the test of time. I still need to read it. I'm glad we just read those. It's been a while.

9:59Cheryl Hines:That's it for now. But if you're hungry for more in-depth interviews, head over to youtube.com slash Graham Bensinger. You can dive into our deep library, which includes more than 2000 clips spanning 12 plus years. Thanks again for listening.

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Actress Cheryl Hines reflects on growing up without much money and having to share a bed with her mother. She also discusses her interesting route to college, first beginning at cosmetology school so she could work at a salon to pay her way through college, and having to change her major from acting to film and television production so she could bartend at night. Cheryl recalls her first job at Universal Studios and the tough decision to move to LA that was encouraged by her family.

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