Champions League changes explained; why Relevent replaced Team; and how Zuffa is giving boxing its latest shake-up

5 Mar 2026 · 37 min · 18 chapters

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Episode Title

Champions League changes explained; why Relevent replaced Team; and how Zuffa is giving boxing its latest shake-up

Hosts

  • James Emmett, Editorial Director
  • David Cushnan, Content Director

Episode Overview

In this episode, James Emmett and David Cushnan delve into significant changes in the sports industry, focusing on UEFA's new commercial strategies, the emergence of Zuffa Boxing, and the Premier League's direct-to-consumer approach. The discussion combines insights from their interviews with UEFA officials and reflections on ongoing trends in sports marketing and promotion.

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Key Topics Discussed

  1. Tribute to Matt Cutler
  2. The episode opens with a tribute to Matt Cutler, a prominent figure in the UK sports industry, who recently passed away after a battle with cancer.
  3. Emmett and Cushnan reflect on their shared experiences with Cutler and acknowledge his contributions to sports journalism and podcasting.
  1. UEFA's New Commercial Entity - UC3
  2. Overview of UC3:
  3. A joint venture between UEFA and the recently rebranded European Football Clubs (EFC).
  4. Aims to manage the commercialization of UEFA's European club competitions.
  • Key Insights from Interview with UEFA Officials:
  • Charlie Marshall and Guy-Laurent Epstein discussed how UC3 seeks to enhance the marketing and commercialization of competitions like the Champions League.
  • A shift in strategy from consultancy to management, emphasizing cooperation between clubs and UEFA following the failed European Super League.
  • Media Rights Changes:
  • Transition from individual country rights to a pan-regional selling strategy.
  • Move from a three-year to a four-year cycle for media rights, providing long-term stability.
  • Sponsorship Evolution:
  • Increase in the number of commercial partners from 9 to 12, with a tiered structure to enhance brand visibility across competitions.
  • Flexibility for sponsors to activate different brands in various markets.
  1. Zuffa Boxing's Entry into the Market
  2. Key Players:
  3. Dana White, fronting Zuffa Boxing, which is backed by Saudi Arabia's Sela.
  4. Turki Alalshikh emerges as a dominant figure, uniting rival boxing promoters and pushing for significant changes.
  • Market Disruption:
  • Zuffa Boxing aims to create a centralized league structure, potentially transforming the traditional boxing promotional model.
  • Notable boxer Connor Benn's switch to Zuffa Boxing and Tyson Fury's upcoming fights under this new banner raise questions about the future of established promoters like Matchroom and Queensbury.
  1. Premier League's Direct-to-Consumer Service
  2. Launch Details:
  3. Premier League confirmed the rollout of a D2C service in Singapore, aiming to combat piracy and adapt to changing media landscapes.
  4. Focus on technological innovation, with a controlled environment to test and refine their approach.
  • Strategic Implications:
  • The move represents a significant shift in how rights holders can control their broadcasting and content distribution.
  • Discussion around the potential for increased revenue and viewer engagement through tighter control over production and storytelling.

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Conclusion

The podcast episode provides a thorough analysis of critical developments in the sports industry, particularly focusing on UEFA's new strategies, the disruptive entry of Zuffa Boxing, and the Premier League's innovative steps towards D2C broadcasting. The insights into these evolving landscapes underscore the importance of adaptability and collaboration in the sports marketing and management sectors.

Key Takeaways

  • The UC3 entity represents a new era of collaboration between UEFA and European clubs.
  • Zuffa Boxing's approach signals a potential shift in how boxing is promoted and organized.
  • The Premier League’s D2C strategy marks a significant move towards greater independence and control over media rights.

Next Episode Preview: The hosts plan to cover more developments from their upcoming Leaders Meet Innovation event, with insights from industry leaders.

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Tribute to Matt Cutler

0:45 to 2:14

A heartfelt tribute to Matt Cutler, reflecting on his contributions to the sports industry.

“Matt, well known to many of you in the UK sports industry, well beyond that as well, died last week after a remarkably courageous battle with cancer.”

Transition to Main Topics

2:14 to 2:30

The hosts prepare to shift the conversation back to sports industry topics.

“And one thing that Matt definitely always loved to do was talk about the sports industry.”

Overview of UC3 and Its Role

2:30 to 4:06

Discussion about the new UC3 entity and its influence on European club competitions.

“Now, we were together, weren't we, on Friday?”

Formation and Purpose of UC3

4:06 to 6:02

Explaining the formation of UC3 and its role in the commercialization of European competitions.

“And not necessarily just in an under the radar way either.”

Unity Between UEFA and Clubs

6:02 to 7:48

Analysis of the newfound unity between UEFA and club associations following recent changes.

“Last year, I think it was incorporated last year, and it definitely switched its philosophy from consulting to management.”

Changes in Media Rights Management

7:48 to 9:39

Overview of the shift from Team to Relevant in managing UEFA media rights.

“significant change in the way that the European club competitions are being commercialized right now by Relevant.”

Sponsorship Strategies in European Competitions

9:39 to 11:22

Discussion on the evolving sponsorship strategies within UEFA competitions.

“direction of travel for how European club competitions are going to get commercialized, which is on a much longer term basis.”

Evolution of the Champions League Model

11:22 to 14:00

Exploration of how the Champions League model is evolving with new sponsorship and media strategies.

“Some action, definitely, some reporting of deals, partnerships in the works.”

Changes in European Club Competitions

14:00 to 15:19

Learn about the structural changes in the Champions League and other European competitions.

“The Europa League and the Conference League.”

Commercial Partnerships in UEFA

15:19 to 19:08

Explore how UEFA is evolving its commercial partnerships and sponsorship models.

“So there's a lot of new product and there's a lot of new participants in this structure.”
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Impact of Technology on Sports Governance

19:08 to 21:57

Discover how technological advancements are changing governance in sports.

“A very sort of, again, you might say, you know, somewhat inflexible, certainly very established program for global partners to get involved.”

Industry Signings and Moves

21:57 to 22:35

Get updated on notable signings and movements in the sports industry.

“More control, more revenue, bigger packages, more storytelling opportunities for rights buyers, basically.”

Boxing's Evolving Landscape

22:35 to 24:50

Understand the recent changes and new entities shaping the boxing world.

“Well, Formula One, starting this weekend, of course, has renewed and expanded its partnership with Salesforce.”

Turkey Al-Asheikh's Influence in Boxing

24:50 to 28:00

Learn about Turkey Al-Asheikh's role and impact in the boxing industry.

“about his hopes for Zuffer Boxing, this new boxing entity that TKO was going in, unfronted by Dana White.”

Zuffer's Ambitious Boxing Vision

28:00 to 30:15

Explore Zuffer's unique approach to boxing and its potential impact on the sport.

“the rug from underneath, seemingly both Matchroom and Queensbury, and really going in with Zuffer boxing.”

Premier League's Direct-to-Consumer Strategy

30:15 to 31:29

Understand the Premier League's direct-to-consumer service launch and its implications.

“And one thing you can absolutely guarantee is that Frank Warren and Eddie Hearn won't go down without a fight here.”

Challenges in D2C for Premier League

31:29 to 33:37

Learn about the challenges and elements to consider for the Premier League's D2C service.

“He talked about the work being done out of the Premier League office in Singapore and how it was hugely important and more to come there.”

Formula One's Successful Broadcast Model

33:37 to 36:27

Discover how Formula One optimizes its broadcast and sponsorship revenues.

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Transcript

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0:04Charlie Marshall:Hello and welcome to Worth Knowing, the sports industry podcast from Leaders, where we talk about what's worth knowing in the business of sport this week. I'm Leaders Editorial Director James Emmett.

0:15David Cushnan:And I'm Content Director David Cushnan. On the show this week, how European football's club competitions are being sold and marketed as we reflect on our chat with Charlie Marshall and Guy-Laurent Epstein.

0:26Guy-Laurent Epstein:Why Saudi Arabia, TKO and Zufa are shaking up boxing.

0:31David Cushnan:And Premier League Plus, why now and what's next as the Premier League goes direct to consumer? This is Leaders Worth Knowing. Well, there's a lot going on in the world this week, but we did want to start today's show by saying something about our friend Matt Cutler. Matt, well known to many of you in the UK sports industry, well beyond that as well, died last week after a remarkably courageous battle with cancer. He was a friendly rival to James and I back when we worked at SportsPro and he edited Sports Business International. That was 16 or 17 years ago, part of what was then a small and merry band of sports industry trade media.

1:14David Cushnan:We went to the same events, we compared notes and we exchanged lots of gossip.

1:18Charlie Marshall:We took lots of pictures as well, and it has been really lovely and very, very sad to look back at a lot of those photos over the last few days. Matt went on to do a brilliant job at Two Circles and then embarked on a varied and very successful freelance career, launched his entertainment podcast company, and he continued to be a confidant and a friend. And he, in fact, launched, I think, one of the first sports business interview podcasts back in the day. And something that I will always take from Matt is the approach to just do what you want to do. As long as you think it's fun and worthwhile, just do it.

2:01Charlie Marshall:We've lost a really good one in Matt, a superb writer and interviewer, a brilliant podcaster, and someone who was great company, a great gossip and a funny, warm spirit, a lovely person. We couldn't be more sad.

2:15David Cushnan:Yeah, rest in peace, Matt. And one thing that Matt definitely always loved to do was talk about the sports industry. So let us take a beat and we'll come back and do just that.

2:30Charlie Marshall:David, how are you doing?

2:32Guy-Laurent Epstein:Yes, I am. Okay, James. How are you?

2:34Charlie Marshall:Yeah, not bad.

2:36Guy-Laurent Epstein:Thank you. Not bad. Now, we were together, weren't we, on Friday? Do you know what? We had a little trip into London.

2:41David Cushnan:We went into town to a rather snazzy hotel, actually, where holed up, well, quite a number - Hold up.

2:48Guy-Laurent Epstein:Quite a number of UEFA and relevant staffers. Do you know what? When I went into that room, David, there were more people in there than I was expecting.

2:57David Cushnan:But two of the people in that room were Charlie Marshall and Gilo Epstein, who are together the co-MDs of this new UC3 entity.

3:12Turki Alalshikh:If you have a look back on the feed, dear listener, you will see that we spoke to Charlie Marshall and Gilo Epstein, the co-managing directors of UC3, for the interview podcast this week. I think there was some danger of us sort of selling that in a description as a little bit technocratic. Like, what is this almost ethereal European football body, which is neither this nor that and doesn't quite have any kind of clear set of responsibilities, but is somehow now something to do with the marketing and commercialization of the Champions League and other club competitions. But what we found, I think, David, in the course of our conversation with Charlie and Gilo is that UC3 is sort of quietly under the radar, potentially one of the most influential bodies in

4:05James Emmett:European, if not world, football. And if it can stick together, or at least if the current situation of relative stability in football governance can hold, then this entity can have a

4:23Turki Alalshikh:real influence on shaping what football, what club football becomes in the mid to long term future.

4:32David Cushnan:Definitely. And not necessarily just in an under the radar way either. One thing, I mean, we were sitting in front as we were recording the podcast of some very prominent, very colorful new branding, which you can look up. And we talked about it briefly early in the episode. But I do think that in itself is fascinating that they have spent the time to create a brand around this UC3 venture, which just as a reminder for people, in case you haven't yet listened to the podcast, is the joint venture managing the sale of media and sponsorship rights, the commercial program for all the European club competitions, men's and women's.

5:14David Cushnan:And it's a joint venture between UEFA as the governing body, as the organiser of those tournaments, and the organisation that was known as the European Club Association, but has now relatively recently been rebranded as the European Football Clubs EFC.

5:33Guy-Laurent Epstein:Correct. Yes. And some background context for this.

5:36David Cushnan:Love a bit of background context.

5:37Turki Alalshikh:Well, is that tautologist? I think it might be. Some context for this. In the background.

5:42James Emmett:So this joint, UC3 was formed in 2017 as part of an effort between UEFA and the ECA to get the clubs more up to speed and in the know about how European club competitions are commercialized.

6:01Turki Alalshikh:And it was started as essentially a consulting body. Last year, I think it was incorporated last year, and it definitely switched its philosophy from consulting to management. The context is that in between 2017 and now, there has been a failed attempt at a European Super League breakaway. The clubs who were involved in that very much brought back around and into the fold. UEFA, in the meantime, changed the format of the Champions League in part to allay some of the objections from these most powerful clubs who are wanting to break away. There is now a new spirit, whether it has been legally enforced or otherwise, of unity between UEFA, the governing body and the event organizer of these tournaments, and the clubs in general who form the European Club Association, now EFC, and are the participants in these tournaments.

7:06Turki Alalshikh:This is now this new unity and it is no longer critically, it is no longer UEFA commercializing the UEFA Champions League, the UEFA Europa League, UEFA Conference League, etc. It is UC3, which is a JV between the clubs and UEFA. Spirit of unity, which predicated the change of commercialization agency from team to relevant, which happened last year.

7:32James Emmett:And as Charlie especially was very good at explaining in the episode that we published this week, this new unity and this new sort of reinforced body of UC3 has actually opened the door for quite significant change in the way that the European club competitions are being commercialized right now by Relevant. And we're maybe not going to see the impact of this until 2027 when the new cycle starts.

8:01Turki Alalshikh:But there are some pretty fundamental changes.

8:04David Cushnan:Yes, absolutely. And we've heard a lot more publicly, I think, about the media side of things. And already, including some fairly seismic news for the UK market, UC3, via Relevant, has sold the next cycle of UEFA men's Champions League rights in the big five European markets. And that process was completed fairly swiftly and in the UK resulted in Paramount winning those rights. And they will begin their coverage in whatever form of the Champions League from the beginning of next, no, the season after next, 2027.

8:41Turki Alalshikh:So two significant changes there. You're absolutely right to spell that out. So first of all, and this has been much publicized in the trade press, the relevance approach to pan-regional selling.

8:53James Emmett:so rather than a team team marketing in the past had gone market by market selling to individual countries relevant took a pan-regional approach by and large trying to clump together territories

9:07Turki Alalshikh:that might appeal so the the speculation went in the trade press that might appeal to a more globally focused broadcaster and paramount which you mentioned david actually took the rights not just in the UK, but also in Germany. And they are, of course, currently the US broadcaster of the Champions League. The second big change that that entailed is a switch from a three-year cycle of media rights, which the Champions League currently is, to a four-year cycle, which I think brings it in line with a couple of other global properties, but is sort of a direction of travel for how European club competitions are going to get commercialized, which is on a much longer term basis.

9:46James Emmett:What UC3 does is it brings in the clubs to be able to look to build value in the long term and not just think about how much money is going to be on their

9:56Turki Alalshikh:books for this current cycle. There's some stability and some longer term thinking there. So those are the two main changes there.

10:03David Cushnan:Yes. And I thought Charlie and Gilo were both very good in explaining some of the rationale behind this move from team to relevant. Big move, big industry move, of course. Team has commercialized, marketed the Champions League since its inception and relevant coming in. And it was interesting. I think it was Charlie who was talking about the challenge of telling a new story when you're the incumbent and actually engaging a fresh perspective, a fresh story through a fresh agency was part of this thinking at a point where, as you say, the UC3 entity was being created. The clubs were coming in a little bit more closer and have been folded into the process more formally.

10:44David Cushnan:A time of change in terms of the format of the competitions, as you talked about, but also this change in the media market. The media market looks very different now to the way it did five years ago. And new global players, the rise of streaming, all sorts of different ways to package up, carve up your rights and maneuvering in a way that feels aligned to how the media market is changing was pretty key to this. That's the media bit. The other bit of the commercial programme is obviously the sponsorship, the commercial partnership side, about which I think we have generally heard a little bit less over the last few months, a little bit less visible.

11:22David Cushnan:Some action, definitely, some reporting of deals, partnerships in the works. But there's some interesting and quite nuanced changes there that Charlie and Guilherme certainly touched on.

11:33James Emmett:Yeah, there are. And it's strange. It's a good leaders anywhere in any industry that, you know, change while you're ahead is often the best approach because people across the sports industry still refer to the Champions League model as a market leading sponsorship structure. And broadly what they mean by that is a limited number of partners, strictly limited number of partners and a takeover of visible inventory, at least from participating entities.

12:07Turki Alalshikh:So Arsenal, for example, playing in the Champions League would not have the same sponsorship boards as they would for their regular domestic football competition, because they're taken over by the Champions League so that there is a uniformity in how those sponsors are presented. They're also integrated into the broadcast.

12:24James Emmett:That is the model. That's what people refer to as the Champions League model. Well, that's being change, David. So not revolutionized, but evolutionized, if that's a word. So it's been talked about again in the trade as an increase in the number of partners from nine to 12.

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12:43Turki Alalshikh:The folks at Relevant would rather think about this as a decrease in partners from 14 to 12, because they consider licensees as global partners.

12:55James Emmett:It's all semantics, really. Essentially, 12 partners is the name it's the number of the game here but there will be an elevated level of four premium partners that will cover all of the european men's club competitions anyway it's worth saying that relevant commercialize the men's competitions two circles do something similar for the women's competition so an elevated tier of four premium partners across all of the competitions, which probably eliminates the challenge, or at least is an attempt to eliminate the challenge that team and UEFA have had over the last few cycles, which is, yeah, the idea that the Champions League is the top product, the Europa League is a secondary product, Conference League

13:40Guy-Laurent Epstein:is even worse.

13:42David Cushnan:It also taps into the increased inventory in terms of the volume of matches that are played as these competitions have been reformatted, and I think in all cases expanded. So now 531 matches per season across those three men's clubs competitions, the UEFA Champions League. The European Cup. The Europa League and the Conference League. 342 games in the Europa League and the Conference League. 189 in the Champions League. And visibility for those four premium partners across every single one of those matches. And obviously the associated broadcasts.

14:16Turki Alalshikh:They're also going to be six-year deals as well, which is another change. So you mentioned the increase in the number of matches. That's the switch to the Swiss model. It's also a really significant increase in the number of clubs involved, something that goes under the radar in the discussion around the shift in the model. Sure, people talk about the increased workload and the increased number of games.

14:39James Emmett:It's a huge increase in the number. If you take women's and men's together, it is a huge increase in the number of clubs

14:45Turki Alalshikh:involved in top tier domestic European club competition. So before the format change to the Swiss model, 96 clubs took part in the last cycle, the last sales cycle. So 80 from the men's side and 16 in the women's champions league.

15:04James Emmett:So that has moved to 169 clubs. That's 108 on the men's side.

15:10Turki Alalshikh:And now that there are two women's tournaments as well, that's gone to 61 women's teams. And that doesn't include all the qualifying rounds that take place in the summer as well. So there's a lot of new product and there's a lot of new participants in this structure.

15:23David Cushnan:And as Charlie was saying, they have managed to increase the volume of teams competing, the number of matches, in such a way with the way these tournaments have been reformatted, that it doesn't necessarily mean a huge increase in the number of match weeks. So that's the that's the positioning to answer. I think it was your question, James, around balancing up the need, the desire, the demand for more inventory, more games, expanded tournaments with the very real challenge of player burnout, fitting and operating in an increasingly congested global football, but certainly European football calendar as well.

16:02David Cushnan:I thought another interesting piece around the commercial program as it develops is the potential to add regional partners in the right circumstances. And I think the plan is to try and do that. And as you hear that, my mind instantly goes to North America, where obviously Relevant has its home, has its origins. And there's clearly, although Charlie, I think, was very keen to point out that North America is one of many important markets and strategically important markets that they think about. There's a clear opportunity, I think, for the UEFA men's and women's European tournaments, but I suppose primarily, first and foremost, the Men's Champions League, which already has a very, if not sizable, then very established footprint in the US through CBS and Paramount's terrific broadcast coverage, much admired and much envied broadcast coverage.

17:00David Cushnan:You do feel that that would be a likely market for potential regional partners to start to come in. And I assume that they would have to do so whilst not clashing with any of the other partners from a category perspective.

17:14Charlie Marshall:It's worth saying that another change implemented by Relevant has been, they say, going through very competitive processes for these partnership slots, a process that has already brought in a renewal for one existing partner in Pepsi, but a new one to Anheuser-Busch InBev signed ostensibly

17:34Turki Alalshikh:to replace or effectively to replace Heineken. And they say flexibility is the watchword, I think, of this new structure because they say, unlike in previous years, sponsors, partners will be given the right to activate different brands in different markets should they want to. So Anheuser-Busch obviously has lots of different beer brands. And I think we're not just going to see one official beer of the Champions League.

18:01James Emmett:There's also flexibility or an intended flexibility in the model. You mentioned the regional partnerships that they might start signing. Intended flexibility with how the clubs can be involved. So Charlie, very keen to point out that in this new sort of long-term approach, there will be an effort to bring the clubs closer to the partners. And in some instances, to use certain clubs and certain territories to activate,

18:32Turki Alalshikh:to dial up activity with particular partners, how that works in practice in terms of what clubs

18:37James Emmett:receive for additional inventory or additional work, additional storytelling opportunities, as they always build these days, remains to be seen. But current model for the Champions League, although it is very lauded, is inflexible.

18:53Turki Alalshikh:New model sounds like it's going to be much more flexible, probably challenging to pull off and there'll be teething problems. But yeah, definitely scope for negotiation all over the place it feels like that commercial relationship

19:08David Cushnan:and dynamic with individual clubs is going to have to be very bespoke and very piecemeal and very case by case in terms of how that works if you consider the you know the very different models the different markets the peculiarities of particular clubs particularly those very top end clubs who might be competing in the knockout stages of the Men's Champions League, for example. It actually gets me thinking about something that we've talked about over the last couple of weeks, which has obviously been in the, well, before, during and after the Winter Olympics, the continuing discussion about how the International Olympic Committee's top partnership model might evolve.

19:49David Cushnan:A very sort of, again, you might say, you know, somewhat inflexible, certainly very established program for global partners to get involved. And I would suggest that a lot of this work is sort of happening unseen within the IOC's commercial department, but they might be looking at what UEFA is doing here and how they have managed to fold in the clubs and thinking about the relationship, for example, between the IOC and National Olympic Federations or even International Sports Federations as well, and how some of what's happening here, some of the flexibility that seems to be being dialed up in this through EC3 might be applied in such a way that it impacts any future Olympic commercial programme.

20:33James Emmett:Totally. And another thing to consider here is what this change in this new entity means in the context, the background context, of the wider sports industry and where we see this happening. Technology and governance structures

20:49Turki Alalshikh:are evolving in sport to the extent that rights holders can have, if they are well resourced enough, full control over their own product and therefore the ability to commercialise on a different level. And what I mean by full control is obviously control over the nuts and bolts of the production, what they're producing and how they're selling that, but also control over the participants and how they tell their own stories within that production as well. There's something that links the Premier League, obviously bringing its global feed production in-house. It's arguably no surprise that at the same time as they're doing that, they are also A, starting, well, doing a D2C experiment in Singapore.

21:38Turki Alalshikh:And did I say A or what?

21:40James Emmett:A, doing the D2C experiment in Singapore, but B, making noise about how they could generate a lot more revenue centrally for the clubs through a more unified central sponsorship model. More control, more revenue, bigger packages, more storytelling opportunities for rights buyers, basically.

22:06Turki Alalshikh:So we're seeing that with the Premier League, seeing that now with UEFA, EFC and the Champions League model.

22:12David Cushnan:It's a good conversation. There's lots of other stuff in it as well. So I would urge you to just scroll down the feed slightly and find that conversation with...

22:21Guy-Laurent Epstein:Includes a reference to a 2011 Instagram photo.

22:24David Cushnan:Yes. Which, are you going to repost it as part of the promotional efforts? I don't know how to do that. Okay. Shall we tackle a few of this week's big sports industry signings, James?

22:34Guy-Laurent Epstein:Yes.

22:35James Emmett:Would you like to begin or should I? I think you can start this week. Okay. Well, Formula One, starting this weekend, of course, has renewed and expanded its partnership with Salesforce. New season starts, as ever, in Melbourne. Blackstone executive Prakash Melwani and Sir Lucian Grange, who is the chair and CEO of Universal Music Group, have made investments into the holding company of Brentford FC, that holding company, Best Intentions Analytics, which was set up by Matthew Benham last year. And Sam Piccione III has left Oakview Group to become managing director sports and entertainment at private equity advisory firm Concello.

23:21David Cushnan:Which is the company that lists Tom Brady, Serena Williams, and I think Gary Neville as partners or certainly involved players. Manny Neville, I'm going to say it, friend of leaders, has left the Football Association and has joined Chelsea in a director of people role. Big move for another friend of leaders, Gerry Newman, who is the new CMO at Brighton & Hove Albion, having left his role at PSG.

23:48Charlie Marshall:That's, of course, my local Premier League team.

23:49David Cushnan:Indeed. And a move at the Aviva Stadium in Dublin, where Alan Gallagher has taken on the role of CEO.

23:58James Emmett:Jamie Weston has been named as the first commissioner of Major League Volleyball. And Claire Giacometto is the new chief financial officer at Crux Football and moves over from the European Tour.

24:13Guy-Laurent Epstein:Those are this week's signings and congratulations to one and all. James, can we have a little talk about what's going on in boxing? Yeah, tell me about this, David.

24:21James Emmett:There's never not something going on in boxing, caveat. But again, it seems like seismic change is afoot.

24:28Turki Alalshikh:Now, I want you to tell me what's up in the relationship between Turkey, El-Sheik and the various boxing entities that control world boxing.

24:39James Emmett:But before I allow you to say anything, some background context. I spoke to Nick Khan from TKO, the president of TKO, when was that? September. And he was talking

24:50Turki Alalshikh:about his hopes for Zuffer Boxing, this new boxing entity that TKO was going in, unfronted by Dana White. And he was talking a big game, very ambitious, very bold, very, we're going to take over the world of boxing, just you wait and see. And I just thought that's Bravado, that's classic boxing talk. You wouldn't set up an entity in boxing and not talk like that. But dot, dot, dot.

25:17David Cushnan:Well, they're making moves. So here's what we believe to be the state of play. So Zuffer boxing, as you say, a product of TKO, but also crucially Saudi Arabia's seller group, have really ruffled some feathers when it comes to the global fight scene. It's fronted by Dana White of the UFC, of course, but Nick Khan, Mark Shapiro, key players involved in what is proving to be a pretty disruptive new entity, new promotional entity in boxing. Now, Turkey Al-Asheikh is the guy who, for the last few years, has become the dominant figure in the global business of boxing. Funding fights, pulling strings, bringing together previously rival promoters, and generally riding roughshod through any sort of historic disagreement, disharmony, by really trying to make the big fights happen.

26:18David Cushnan:and I think to a large extent has won the support of boxing fans along the way, because so often in boxing, the big fights don't happen. He has, in particular, managed to, over the past few years, unite the two big British boxing promotional vehicles, Matchroom Boxing, Eddie Hearn and Barry Hearn's boxing division, but Eddie Hearn very much the front man these days, and Frank Warren's Queensbury. Zuffer Boxing has arrived, and it appears as though Turkey Al-Asheikh through the seller and Saudi backing for Zuffer Boxing, has new attention, has a new focus for his attention and seems to be hitching his wagon to Zuffer Boxing.

26:59David Cushnan:So the big moves that you referenced, headlined by Connor Benn, one of Eddie Hearn's star fighters and a boxer for whom Eddie Hearn really went into bat for when Connor Benn failed drugs test, has switched, somewhat surprisingly, to Zuffer Boxing. In fact, very surprisingly to Zuffer Boxing. You also have Turkey Allah Sheikh now promoting Tyson Fury's latest comeback fight, which is taking place in London next month. Frank Warren has traditionally been Tyson Fury's promoter or certainly part of the promotional machine around Tyson Fury. So suddenly you have a situation where it is reported that Frank Warren and Queensbury are taking legal action, citing breach of contract against Seller and TKO.

27:49Guy-Laurent Epstein:Well, Frank Warren famously doesn't Zuffer fools gladly, does he? Very nice. Very nice indeed.

27:53David Cushnan:But you have Turkey Al-Asheikh at the heart of this, who seems to be moving in a different direction. And the suggestion is that in suddenly pulling the rug from underneath, seemingly both Matchroom and Queensbury, and really going in with Zuffer boxing. There is an element of him maybe looking to cut out the middleman here. The other thing to say about Zuffer boxing is they're coming into a boxing space with a vision, with a mission of doing things very differently. So they have this idea of creating their own belt and largely ignoring or moving away from the multitude of other belts, very historic belts in some cases that have traditionally sustained boxing and interest in boxing through the years.

28:39David Cushnan:And there seems to be a suggestion that actually what they are keen to do is bring in a sort of UFC style centralized league offering, as opposed to the sort of matchmaking exercise that has traditionally gone on in boxing. So there's a lot of things happening here, all of which is sustained by this sort of hourly, daily diet of never-ending content that every promoter is serving up. You're seeing Dana White increasingly being interviewed about boxing. You're seeing Frank Warren and Eddie Hearn and Frank Smith, who's the CEO of Matchroom Boxing, hit back on various YouTube channels across DAZN, who have a big contract, multi-year contract that they've just extended with Matchroom through various media channels, as well as all their own in-house media channels, this sort of absolute noise around the sport.

29:29David Cushnan:And I think it's a fascinating time in that world, because if Dana White can come in and revolutionize boxing in the same way as he revolutionized mixed martial arts, that is a significant and sizable change. And doing it, he seems to, at the moment, have the corporate might of both TKO, very significant organization, the sports industry, of course, but also the backing of Saudi Arabia. He's got a very compelling mix of ambition and funding with which to move this forward. And I suspect we're only at the start of what could be a number of very big moves and potentially some very big fights that are being promoted under the Zuffer banner.

30:14Charlie Marshall:Fascinating stuff. And one thing you can absolutely guarantee is that Frank Warren and Eddie Hearn won't go down without a fight here. But yeah, watch this space.

30:25David Cushnan:Indeed. One thing we should also touch on, which came out last week, was Richard Masters, the Premier League CEO, announcing the, I think much anticipated, but formally announcing the launch of a Premier League direct-to-consumer service, which we rolled out in Singapore as the sort of testbed market for this. He announced this on stage at the FT Business of Football Summit. I think it's fair to say he gave a top line on this and gave some top line rationale for why the Premier League is doing this and why now. Obviously, it is a big, you know, it's prompted a lot of analysis and a lot of discussion already across the industry, because this has been a long time coming.

31:12David Cushnan:What do you make of it? What are you hearing? What's, What is going on here?

31:17Charlie Marshall:He filled in, he put some meat on the bones of what had been anticipated at the FT event last week. But he actually trailed it, David, it's worth saying, at Leaders in October. Remember the Leaders event? He talked about the work being done out of the Premier League office in Singapore and how it was hugely important and more to come there. but the big focus is on broadcast innovation and piracy.

31:45Turki Alalshikh:It's no surprise that Singapore is sort of chosen as a testbed for this type, and it very much is a testbed for this type of service. It is the Premier League's sort of anti-piracy outpost. It's their most sort of controlled environment in an exotic international part of the world. They've got a fantastic relationship with StarHub in the market. It's a small but significant market, technologically advanced, et cetera, et cetera, good middle-class, big-ish English-speaking market for English-speaking media rights. It's a test and learn scenario, and it comes at the same time. Well, it's two. Well, when did Alex Willis join?

32:23Turki Alalshikh:So September 2022, the Premier League appointed Alex Willis, who joined from Wimbledon, and she had D2C specifically in her brief.

32:32James Emmett:And from that point, we have been on a one-way journey to this destination they're always going to go d2c what this move allows them to do is to build and roll out a product that is technologically adept secure sound that reaches people in the right way has the right front facing interfaces that deals with back and forth with consumers that is marketed in an appropriate way. All the things that a rights seller like the Premier League

33:09Turki Alalshikh:just doesn't have to deal with when they're selling their rights to a front-facing broadcast organisation. So they can iron out any kinks, learn some lessons here in a really nicely

33:21James Emmett:controlled environment that doesn't matter too much if things don't go according to plan.

33:27David Cushnan:Yeah, I will point people in the Worth Knowing newsletter this week towards Carlo DeMarcus his piece on this. And as so often on Media Matters, Carlo has a really good way of thinking things through and then committing it to, I was going to say print, but he usually does it online, but committing it into sentences.

33:46Charlie Marshall:I think he writes it out by hand and then gives it to one of his team. I'd love to think that's the case.

33:51David Cushnan:So Carlo. But he talks about, and I think one of several really interesting points he makes in his piece is that directing a human needs to be thought of as a capability and not as a product launch. And he lists out what he calls set of organisational muscles that will take the Premier League time to develop. And as you say, doing it in such a comparatively low risk environment and a small market is a very sensible way of going about this, because here are some of the things you have to get right as a D2C operator. Pricing discipline, packaging design, customer acquisition economics, churn management, cancellation flow optimization, payment failure recovery, editorial cadence beyond match day and between seasons, device quality assurance at scale, customer support staffing.

34:43David Cushnan:And every one of those elements will require, as Carlo makes the point, a very, presumably very steep learning curve for the Premier League and you can't bypass them. There's no quick solutions to these in many cases. And so, yeah, there will be an element of learning on the job, but it's going to be absolutely fascinating. We're all watching in London, of course, the construction of the new Premier League Studios building office, which will be online later this year and be right at the heart of everything that's happening over in Singapore and the result we'll see in Singapore.

35:17Charlie Marshall:It's worth maybe mentioning at this stage, a global rights holder that has also done really impressive work in this field.

35:25James Emmett:And people talk about the very visible success in sponsorship. I'm talking here about Formula One, which has been lauded in recent years for A, drive to survive and B, adding big global brands to their sponsorship portfolio and maxing out on revenues. All of that is driven by a really tight control over their broadcast product. They do have a D2C. They did experiment in D2C a few years ago, but mainly the value in the Formula One broadcast model is in packaging everything together, tightly controlling production, selling that production as is to global broadcasters. What that allows Formula One to do is to sell sponsorship inventory by the second rather than by the space.

36:14James Emmett:So they're not selling signage according to how big a bit of track branding sort of logo positioning is, but specifically how many seconds it's going to spend on exactly how many screens exactly around the world. And they can do that ahead of time. They don't have to measure it in retrospect.

36:31Turki Alalshikh:they tell this very clear ROI that they're selling to clients because they can control the broadcast and then they can control, we're a bit low, we're a bit down on how long Salesforce has spent on screen. No worries. Easy to manipulate an engineer back into the screen. So it's where all the big global rights holders are going.

36:51David Cushnan:Exactly. Shall we leave it there?

36:52Turki Alalshikh:Let's leave it there. And do you know what, David? It's a slightly different week next week,

36:56Guy-Laurent Epstein:isn't it? We've got our event. We've got our Leaders Meet Innovation event in central London. we do some podcasting from there let's get out and about okay all right see you next week see you then

From the publisher

As the Dana White-fronted Zuffa Boxing, backed by TKO and Saudi's Sela, makes its move to dethrone promotional giants Matchroom Boxing and Queensberry Promotions, James Emmett and David Cushnan consider the latest disruption in the fight game and Turki Alalshikh's role as chief string-puller.

 

They also reflect on their conversation with Uefa Marketing Director Guy-Laurent Epstein and European Football Clubs CEO Charlie Marshall, to unpack the new commercial programme being developed by the UC3 entity, a joint venture between Uefa and EFC - and the flexibility that is being built into the media rights and sponsorship sales packages being taken to market by agency partners Relevent and Two Circles.

 

And there's reaction to the Premier League confirmation it will launch a direct-to-consumer service in Singapore.

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