Nobody Wants This Costume Designer on LA Style, Uniform Dressing, and the Perfect Going-Out Top

0:00Negar Ali Kline: I remember when I was watching Nobody Wants This, I was just like, God, this is some of the best, like, everyday wardrobe I've ever seen on a show. Ultimately, the idea behind the design of this show and every project that I work on is to reveal the inner world of a character. In our show, everyone's beautifully tailored. In our show, everyone's beautifully dressed. If you went out in LA and looked on the streets, that's not necessarily the case, but this is the slice of LA that we are showing. We do use athleisure, but we put it in the background. As someone who styled an entire show that is representative of LA, what do you think about LA style?

0:38Negar Ali Kline: I'm not down on LA style. Everybody likes to talk shit about LA style, but I have to say, I'm so inspired. Say, hey, I'm going out this weekend. Where should I go find a going out top? Well, that's a great question. What are some everyday outfit formulas that you love? I really believe in uniform dressing. I'm sure for this show, you did a lot of sourcing. Give us kind of your rundown of your favorite places to shop in LA. Welcome back to Let's Get Dressed. Before we dive into today's episode, make sure that you're following the show, both on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, so that you don't miss a new episode.

1:13Negar Ali Kline: In case you want to watch today's episode, you can head over to YouTube. The full episode is available there too. And when you're done, leave us a review. I always love to hear what you guys think about the episodes, and it really helps the show go. Now, let's go get dressed. Welcome to the podcast. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to have you. It felt very kismet as well because I was binging the show, as I'm sure so many people who are listening have just done. And I was sitting there being like, God, this is some of the best everyday wardrobe I've ever seen on a show. Like I want so much of that.

1:50Negar Ali Kline: And usually I feel like sometimes when you're watching a show, when it's not a fashion geared show, the wardrobe just kind of falls into the background almost. This, I was like, wait, what is that pink sweater she's wearing? And then the next day, Kismet, your agent and I were emailing and she was like, what about Nagar? And I was like, actually, I have a lot of questions for her. Oh, amazing. I'm so happy to be here to answer some of your questions. So tell us how you are going to help all of us get dressed a little bit better today. The main thing is to find your silhouette and to kind of reduce the cognitive overhead is sometimes what I call it.

2:23A lot of women have a lot of decision fatigue around getting dressed. A lot of women feel like it's a lot of work to go into their closet and put together a look. you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time you get dressed. I think once you find the things that work and you feel great in and you feel like it's the way that you want to express yourself and present yourself to the world then you can sort of find iterations of that. You know a lot of women have a lot of decision fatigue around getting dressed. A lot of women feel like it's kind of a lot of work to go into their closet and put together a look and to kind of reduce the cognitive overhead is sometimes what I call it is once you find what works and once you find what you feel great in more importantly then you can build on that and yeah how does that apply in

3:18Negar Ali Kline: practice like it's interesting you walked in and I was like oh wow she looks perfect just everything fits you so perfectly. And down from like the sweater, the button down, it's just so well tailored. And we just spoke about this on the podcast recently about fit and proportions and finding what works for you. And there's definitely a camp of people that are like, wear what you love, who cares? Which I believe. I do too. Totally. I really do too. If you love wearing something fully oversized, do it. Love it. Like I think of so many like Billie Eilish outfits and I'm like, oh, I could never wear that.

3:52Negar Ali Kline: But she looks amazing and she feels like so confident in it. For people listening who are going into their closet and do feel that decision fatigue, I'm kind of in that right now. How do you recommend like, okay, let's, we're going to find your silhouette. What's the best path to that? I'm definitely not here to tell anyone how to dress. I do feel like getting dressed, and this is something that we explore in costume design, is a self-expression, right? Like in design, I find that it's where style and psychology intersect. I don't want to dictate to women like this is what you have to wear if you have this type of body.

4:25If you know wear a cropped sweater if you feel like you want to lengthen your torso or whatever it is. I mean sure there are those tools that you can sort of manipulate a silhouette similar to you. I think you should wear what makes you happy. Ultimately the whole idea and the idea behind the design of this show and every project that I work on is to reveal the inner world of a character. I think that's so much more important than a silhouette that's flattering. I mean, of course, we all want to look great, you know, and I can sit here and tell you, well, get a tailor. I mean, we've heard that so many times from, you know, all the experts.

5:03And it really does make a big difference.

5:05Negar Ali Kline: If you have the time for it. If you have the time for it. If you have the resources for it. Yes, absolutely. But I think ultimately, if there's a takeaway for the listeners is that the point of getting dressed is to reveal how you want to present yourself to the world. Because you'll walk into a room and the cut of your blazer sometimes says so much before you even get a chance to say a word. And so keeping that in mind, when you're out in the world looking for things, you know, I feel like energetically you put something on and you know, this is me. I feel great in this. And that's how I get dressed.

5:46I actually get dressed based on my mood. And when I put something on and I feel great, that's basically the sign that it's a good look for me.

5:58Negar Ali Kline: I love what you said earlier about fashion and psychology. That really makes me light up inside because it is so intertwined. I remember when I was studying fashion in school, they made me take a psychology class. And being able to kind of find those connections was really fascinating to me. And I am so excited to hear how that plays a role in character building and wardrobe building. I binged the show, as I said. I'm sure so many people have. You guys are in your third season now. Who is the most exciting wardrobe for you to build out? You know, working with actors, it's different with every single actor.

6:31The process is different with every single actor. And I think it's my job to tune into that. I mean, obviously, I have a great time with Bina. I, we get in the fitting room and we love just, you know, trying on all the outfits and the jewelry and all the things, you know, Tim Simons, who's actually spoken to this a few times has said that, you know, he sort of came in and figured out who his character was in that first fitting, you know, so we're there to help the actor embody this character that's on the page for them. and sometimes actors come in and they're you know they're in their zone and really just want to know what they're wearing for the day and that's perfectly fine and other actors have you know it's a much more collaborative process they have their opinions and you know what they're bringing to the character and it's my job to listen and to incorporate those ideas and so it's a very collaborative medium.

7:36It's very important to us that our actors are very comfortable and that they love what they're wearing because I think that supports the performance. And so we do have conversations about that. We make sure that they feel good in what they're wearing. In our show, it shows a slice of LA and it's a contemporary show. In our show, everyone's beautifully tailored. In our show, everyone's beautifully dressed. If you went out in LA and looked on the streets, That's not necessarily the case, but this is the slice of LA that we are showing.

8:07Negar Ali Kline: I love that you brought up Bina because for me, I just felt so much obsession with everything she was wearing. I think for me, she represents kind of this older mentality. Like she always had a blowout. The hair was always fabulous, no matter what. Hair done, nails done. Always. Jewelry on. Full glam, jewelry. And sometimes I do feel like in LA, it's a little bit of a lost art. and I loved seeing the contrast between Bina and Joanne sometimes. It really felt representative of some of the older and newer LA. Just that difference of what LA is known for now. You know, I feel like in LA, people are like, it's all leggings and sweats and et cetera.

8:42Negar Ali Kline: And then you have someone like Bina who's just bringing the fashion. Totally. You know, Bina is similar to you, she's sort of based on my aunts as well and a bit of my mom and women that I know and my friends' aunts. And so I'm really drawing from my personal life with Bina. And yeah, we did want to draw those contrasts between this Russian immigrant family, the Raklovs, and then Joanne's family, the Williams, where we designed them in sort of like these coastal colors and the pastel colors. And so right when you go into their world, you can immediately feel that, you know, these are two separate worlds that are coming together, you know, through their children.

9:25She's very much based on women that I know.

9:28Negar Ali Kline: Absolutely. I felt that. It resonated. Yes. I was like, wow, I'm kind of nostalgic for that. I think I need to be dressing up like that every day again. Or like that's just what I want to be when I'm older. Like that's—I need to make sure that we're still doing that. Same. Yeah. Representation for that. Well, if you go to Neiman Marcus at lunchtime, you will still see that. It's unbelievable you just said that because I did that yesterday and I haven't done that in years. I love Neiman's and I love going there and people watching as well. I'm sure there's a lot of good style inspiration to be had there.

10:01Just go sit and people watch and figure out the style. Yeah.

10:05Negar Ali Kline: Something that I've loved to watch in the show and that I really geek out over is the ability to tell a character's evolution through clothes. And what's amazing is I feel like all of the key characters are evolving in a really big way. Like no one is not going through something really big, whether it's breakups, moving in with each other, divorce, they're always going through something quite big in their life. Is there a moment wardrobe-wise that you feel was extremely successful in being able to showcase someone going through a transformation. Absolutely. All of our characters this season are sort of finding themselves in new territory.

10:39Well, obviously with Sasha and Esther, Esther is finding herself on the apps for the first time. So here she is dating again. And so you definitely see a pretty dramatic shift in the way that she dresses, certainly from season one until now with the color and the necklines and really the silhouettes. And she's wearing a midriff bearing top to the housewarming party. And with Joanne, she's experienced growth. So we wanted to show some maturation in her wardrobe. Here she is, she's living with someone. So there was definitely an opportunity. We want there to be some like cozy looks. And also she's starting her conversion journey.

11:22and that was an opportunity for us to you know lean into the whole like sort of preppy you know academic those types of looks that felt like they would work well in a classroom setting and here she is representing Noah at the temple and with Morgan I mean with Morgan she's she's such an interesting character to dress because you can have sort of an idea of what the costume should be. You know, when I'm reading the script, I'm sort of visualizing and thinking about what that costume would be. But then you really have to think about the actor that's going to be wearing that costume and how they're going to wear that costume in terms of their physicality and their posture.

12:03And there's something about Morgan and the actress Justine Loop that can wear, you know, like a red Alex Perry gown with cutouts. And just because of the way she holds herself, and she has this sort of like loose, effortless, cool way of like, you know, her posture and body language that she can make a gown like that look like it's just like not a big deal. Totally. So that's really, really fun to be able to put looks like that on her and the way she carries it off is really cool. In terms of nailing it for me this season, I would say the Valentino gown that she wears to watch what happens live.

12:44Because in that moment, it was really important to me for Sasha to see her sort of in a new way. Like we knew the dress had to be, you know, it's scripted that it's devastating. So it had to be like this mic drop moment and it had to be sexy and it had to be, you know, have Morgan's energy. But I really wanted it to be soft and romantic and have a fairytale quality to it. And that dress really checked every single box because I thought it was beautiful and sexy and all those things, but there was a real ethereal quality to it. Even the color was sort of like the Cinderella color, you know? And so for her to wear that in New York just really did feel like there was just like this sort of fairytale element to the to the night the way it unfolds it was so unexpected was it for me it was yeah

13:39Negar Ali Kline: in a good way yeah I think we're so used to seeing Morgan and you know something a little bit more revealing that's right and when she came out in that and that was what she ended up wearing it to me I agree with you that felt like the most transformative moment in the season because I was like oh he is seeing her soft side and I thought that was such a great moment where fashion could tell the story of what was happening between the two of them. Whereas if she was just going back to her old ways, it wouldn't show that she was evolving. That's right. That moment was just, it looked beautiful on her.

14:10She looked like an angel. And she looked, even though it was like, had these cutouts again, she just looked so like vulnerable in it.

14:18Negar Ali Kline: I would love to hear how you tackled styling dating in LA. Because as we mentioned earlier, everyone in the show is dating, right? Or in the process of it. And it's so interesting. I don't really know what to wear on a night out anymore. When someone asks me, like, what do I wear on a date night? I actually, like, don't have a complex answer. I'm usually like, wear your favorite pair of jeans that hug you in all the right places and, like, your favorite leather jacket and a great top. But as a wardrobe stylist, I would love to hear how you tackled the idea of what people are wearing when they're dating in LA.

14:50Yeah.

14:51Negar Ali Kline: I mean, you want to look like you didn't, don't really care. Right. You always want to look like you don't care. Right. You know, it's like the most, you look so effortless. That's right. It's so much effort. That's right. We're getting ready for hours. It's like the no makeup makeup. Yes. You know, but yeah, she, well with Joanne in season one, I think the outfit she wore on the first date, I think that resonated with a lot of women because there was a real simplicity to it, but again, it was the fit. So, you know, Joanne's silhouette is quite tailored. And you see that just throughout like all of her costumes.

15:24But of course, denim, I mean, denim is a staple, right? For women, that's something you could put on and you just instantly feel like yourself. I have to say, it's really difficult the going out top, you know? Like where? You as a wardrobe stylist now. Yes. No, it's difficult for us too.

15:40Negar Ali Kline: That's what I'm saying. If someone comes to you, say, hey, I'm going out this weekend. where should I go find a going out top? Well, that's a great question. It's the million dollar question. We're all dying to know. Well, this is clearly we are, there's a white space here because this is something I talk about with my team all the time. They're like, what should it be? And I'm like, well, maybe just jeans and a cute top. And it's like, well, where's the cute top? Where are all the cute tops? Personally, as like a woman in my thirties, the hardest category for me to fill is great tops in my closet.

16:12Negar Ali Kline: I have no idea where to go. Absolutely. I mean, the top that she wore in season one, that black button down, I don't know if you remember when they go out on their sort of first date and they end up at the sex shop. That was an Etern top. You know who has great, like, just as like, if you're in LA, there's a boutique that I love and I always find something there. It's called Switch. Oh my God. Switch is an original LA. Like, Like that place has been around since I was in like young, young, young. Yeah. At the Beverly Glen Center. I always find something when I'm like looking, you know, so you're like, where should I go to get a going out top?

16:49Go to Switch. But yeah, I mean, it's difficult. It's actually, there is sort of a lack.

16:56Negar Ali Kline: I have such a hard time with tops because again, I have the knits, I have the button downs, but sometimes I just want something really fabulous with jeans and like a great belt. Is that like a silk blouse? Is that a blouse or is that? It's something sculptural, I think. It's something that maybe either has like a great collar or a big arm. Like the other day, randomly, I saw SRG, which is Sophia Richie's label for Revolve, had a really great like black button down collar. It looked like silk-ish. It wasn't fully silk, but it had these like black kind of dangling embellishments all over it. Very dreasy.

17:33Negar Ali Kline: And I bought it right away because I was like, that feels like something that I would wear at night with jeans or I would wear with black trousers during the day and a diamond in the rough. It's nice when you can find something that you can like style a few different ways, you know, as you just said, like with jeans and with trousers and like with a meaty skirt even. But it's a challenge. As someone who styled an entire show that is representative of LA, what do you think about LA style? Like I feel often, you know, I lived in New York for a long time. And that has its own fabulous identity in and of itself.

18:07Negar Ali Kline: But I do hear frequently that people are like, the style in LA is so bad. Everyone's in athleisure. And what I loved about this show is there was hardly any of that. Yeah. I mean, you know, if you see, like, in the background, I actually, we do use athleisure, but we put it in the background because that is so very LA. Like, you just can't go out and not see a woman in athleisure. And so when I'm talking to my background costumers, I'm like, make sure there's people, you know, like, if there's a cafe scene, that there's definitely women in athleisure. But I think, you know, everybody likes to talk shit about LA style.

18:42But I have to say, like, if I just look at sort of my friends, I'm so inspired all the time. I feel like there is some incredible, you know, fashionable people in LA. It's just like a very big diverse city. So it's hard to say, but I'm not down on LA style at all. At all. I don't. Yeah, I think there's good style here. I mean, there's great shopping here. I think there's amazing shopping here. And I feel like the women in LA, they take their style pretty seriously.

19:16Negar Ali Kline: And you're born and raised in LA. I am. Which I love. A fellow Angelino. That's right. I would love to hear how you even got into this because I think wardrobe styling for me is, it's not niche, but it is such a specific role. And everyone I've ever had on the show that has gotten into it has had a very different path. So tell us a little bit about your pathway into it. It wasn't really until I was in college and I was roommates with Shana Honeyman, whom you've had on your pod. Who we love. And actually Heidi Bivens, whom we've also had on the pod. I always love that. I love that. And Heidi wasn't the last wardrobe designer we had on the show, actually.

19:53Yes. Yeah, I love her. It was actually Heidi who got me into, you know, while we were in college, Heidi was already styling. And she asked me just to help her out on a couple of shoots. And I did. And that sort of is that was like my entry into the world of styling. I started my career in print, editorial and fashion styling. I was a contributing editor at Teen Vogue, at Vanity Fair, at GQ. And eventually I moved back to Los Angeles. And then it sort of evolved into celebrity styling and music styling. I did countless music videos. And in 2005, I designed my first film called The Living Wake with Jesse Eisenberg.

20:43And really, since then, I've straddled the styling world and costume designing for commercial and TV and film. And so it's interesting that I get to do sort of both because I do find that one sort of informs the other.

21:00Negar Ali Kline: It's really world building, I find. And one thing, I remember when I was watching Nobody Wants This, there was one look that Kristen Bell came out in, in season three, where I was just like, oh, that feels so her, but so great. And I knew there was so much intention behind it. And it was when they went to Bina's house to walk through the backyard for the first time, the corduroy pants, the pink sweater, there was just so much intention there. And I think, again, it tells so much about the person. The second that outfit came out, I was like, this is really good. There's a lot of inspiration here.

21:31Negar Ali Kline: So if someone listening right now is looking to kind of rebuild their world, how would you recommend someone build their closet around their personality? This might sound like basic advice, but the most important thing is to have those foundational pieces, right? Like the essentials. So you've got to get those, like the building blocks down first. So what are those pieces? You know, like a great blazer, perfect white t-shirt, the perfect black t-shirt, the perfect pair of jeans, perfect black trouser. So once you have sort of these pieces kind of, you know, as the building blocks of your wardrobe, and then you can kind of build on it back to what we were talking about, just like kind of finding those fun tops that you can work into your wardrobe and then leaning into some trends if you want, you know, every season.

22:22But it's really, really important to have those sort of essential fundamental pieces to your wardrobe because those are your workhorses that when you open your closet, you're not at a loss. You're like, OK, let me build on these great pair of trousers. You know, I'm a big fan of knitwear like the cardigans and the v-necks because I just feel like those pieces are, those are pieces that live in your closet for a very, very long time. You know, you don't need to keep buying those every season once you have like the beautiful navy crew neck that you can, you know, work in and out of so many different outfits.

22:59So that would be my advice is to focus on those pieces. Make sure you have those pieces down before you go off and start buying like all the printed dresses. And, you know, I have a girlfriend who's like, I, there's like an embargo on printed dresses. I'm like, no more. You can't buy it. You're like, we've done it. You have too many printed dresses. Like, but you don't even have one LBD. You're a good friend. Like you don't have one, you don't have one like pair of like beautiful black trousers. Like stop buying so many printed dresses, you know? And honestly, we all have our thing.

23:30Negar Ali Kline: That's our thing. You know, I have my thing too. Like where I have yours. Yeah. I have so many, like every variation of like a blue poplin shirt. If you looked in my closet, it's like I have a whole section. I mean, I'm wearing one today. Right. And I could have a whole episode on button downs because as I've like really started to wear them more, I'm like, wait, there are like 10 different variations you need to have. You can have a silk one. You can have a cotton one. An oversized one. A fitted one. Yeah. You know, so there's an art form there. The ones that you wear unbuttoned with a t-shirt or a tank top underneath.

24:05Yeah. One that you wear buttoned, but it doesn't have much volume so that you could wear it underneath a sweater or underneath a cardigan. I know everybody throws the word like invest in them, but just do what you can, whether it's if you're buying them at cost or if you're getting the Celine version. But those are the pieces that I think every woman needs to kind of streamline the process.

24:28Negar Ali Kline: What are some everyday outfit formulas that you love? I know you talked about knitwear and that for me is kind of an easy go-to, but sometimes I have a hard time making it feel elevated. So what are some formulas you feel like you rely on that are really helpful? Again, I was like so inspired by just the everyday looks in the show that I really want to break it down and kind of get some of the knowledge that you had and took into building those. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, I really believe in uniform dressing. You do. Say more. I have, that's the way I get dressed every day. But again, it's because I want to just take one more decision off of my list.

25:04Right. So do you have like four to five looks that you are constantly oscillating between?

25:08Negar Ali Kline: How does that look like? I feel like I have a template. Okay. And then I sort of have the pieces that I kind of just interchange all the time. For me, layering is really important. I mean, in Los Angeles, it's also because it's just, you know, practical because of our climate here. And so I typically layer throughout the day. And so I'm like taking on, putting off. I always feel like I need a jacket because I don't feel like I'm fully dressed without that final piece. So I would say for me, the uniform really consists of denim or a great pair of trousers. I do love Celine trousers. I love high sport trousers and button downs with just like a nice kind of like, you know, with the perfect kind of crew neck t-shirt underneath.

26:00And then I'll have a sweater, whether I'm like draping that over my shoulders or putting it on like a cardigan sort of with like, you know, the cuffs out. Yeah, that's kind of my uniform and jackets. You know, I feel like jackets really go a long way. so that's the thing that I feel like I really kind of invest in are the you know the outerwear pieces you have a beautiful jacket or coat on and you look fabulous I remember watching the show

26:29Negar Ali Kline: and there were so many moments where I saw really like intentional outfit repeating like I feel like we saw Joanne in the leopard coat a lot what for you is kind of like okay this is something that is a staple in someone's wardrobe. Well, I love the Rebecca Laura Piana. We were talking about my most worn shoe. I love them. I just keep re-soling them and buying them in every color. Yes. They're for sure a splurge shoe, but they're ones that I get the most wear out of. Same. Yeah. I have them in that caramel color that I love too. I love Jude heels. I've been into very much so lately. I love their silhouette.

27:08Sort of reminds me of like 90s Prada. And I sort of like a hiking sneaker. I'm quite outdoorsy actually. And so I really love the Miu Miu hiking sneaker right now.

27:21Negar Ali Kline: Oh, that's cute. Yeah, it's really cute. I love that. Are you wearing that with athleisure or are you wearing that with jeans? Oh, no, I don't wear athleisure, but I wear it to work like with jeans and she never wears off leisure. I mean, when I'm working out. Yes. But you're never in normal life. No, of course not. No. I mean, I just don't have that kind of, this just doesn't fit my lifestyle. Like I'm either at work or, you know, so I mean, not to say that I don't have like a sweat pant day at work because some days it's just like, I can't put on the hard pants and I will have a sweat pant day.

27:52But so yes, I'll wear them. I wore this summer with like mini skirts and it looked really cute. Cute.

27:59Negar Ali Kline: I always have a hard time with sneakers and jeans. I feel like it has to be like a perfectly tailored cropped jean. Yes. So that it doesn't feel too heavy. Yes. You have to show like maybe like a tiny bit of sock and then I think it works. I feel like wardrobes on TV and movies have inspired so much of what I wear now. Like I think of all the things I watched growing up that are like so, so, so influential to me. If you could trade places with any TV or movie characters wardrobe, who would you trade places with? Oh my gosh. There's so many that, I mean, for me, Diane Keaton has just been an inspiration forever.

28:40She's on every single mood board. And so I would say Annie Hall, of course, is something that I always go back to and reference. But also Holly Golightly. I mean, those Givenchy dresses, you could wear them today. I love that like night shirt she wears. Looks like a Charbet shirt. And you know, Audrey Hepburn was like the most elegant. So whatever she wore, she was just impeccable.

29:05Negar Ali Kline: I love that you said Diane Keaton, because as we were prepping this, I was thinking to myself, I was like, I feel like, you know, one of the most common answers is Carrie Bradshaw, of course. Right. And for me, I was like the first Wives Club. Diane Keaton, Goldie Hawn, like those costumes to me. And of course, that movie was like one of my favorites growing up. Oh, it's such a fun movie. I watched it a million times. And I just feel like the white suit, the tailoring of the time, all of it for me felt so fabulous. Well, Diane Keaton had personal style. Oh, yes. And she, you know, I actually read that a lot of her costumes that she wore and Annie Hall were her own clothes.

29:40But there's something about the way she wears her clothes and it's just incredibly inspiring.

29:47Negar Ali Kline: So lived in. So lived in. So personal. Yes. I want to get a little deeper into your personal wardrobe. Obviously, you mentioned Switch earlier, but I'm sure for this show, you did a lot of sourcing. So give us kind of your rundown of your favorite places to shop in LA? In LA, I do love Switch. I love a boutique called Mameg. So I've heard so much about this and have not gone. They're sisters, the owners, and they're Persian as well. And they were the first boutique that carried original Helmet Lang. Oh, wow. The first pair of Helmet Lang I remember buying like black Helmet Lang shorts was from their boutique on Montana.

30:27And then they moved. They were on Santa Monica for a little while and now they're in Beverly Hills. And I love them. And it's so artful. And it's a boutique slash gallery. And they're so lovely. I also love Dez Cohen, one of my best friends. I love her boutique. She's also just, you know, she's had a boutique for such a long time and she's such a great eye. And she carries a lot of sort of under the radar designers and European designers. So if you're looking to find something that like, you know, just to discover a brand, I would go there. And Neiman Marcus. I love Neiman Marcus. I love going there and having lunch on the fourth floor at the bar or at Mariposa.

31:10What about good jeans?

31:11Negar Ali Kline: I feel like LA is the capital of epic jeans. Yeah, I think, you know, obviously everybody loves the vintage Levi's and sourcing that has become a thing, you know? I feel like you say that with a little bit of like hesitation or I mean, no, no, I think it's, you know, well, everyone knows about all the, the Love Lenny and the RLT and all of those places. I mean, if you dare go to the Rose Bowl and try to do that. What are your jeans today? They're very good. These are A-goldie. Love. Yeah. And I do love them. And these are just like, I know I can count on them. They're so reliable. So they're always on my fitting rack.

31:47And I love Kate jeans. I love, you know, Superwoman makes great jeans, actually, that brand Superwoman. And recently, I actually bought beautiful jeans that had some like, I love jeans that have like a little bit of interest, you know, from Givenchy.

32:05Negar Ali Kline: We talked about knitwear earlier. Where are you getting some of your favorites from? I know Eternay was one of them that you said. Yeah, I think they do a great job. Guest in residence. That was what that pink sweater was, right? That was Jill Sonder, actually. Oh, fabulous but styled with doan corduroys they were so those were so cute so cute but for knitwear that british brand i think it's called i think it's really yeah they make beautiful knitwear i think kate makes beautiful knitwear the row obviously makes beautiful knitwear this season we used like a lot of knitwear from a brand called b-sides are there any brands that are kind of under the radar that you're loving right now I don't know if I would say they're under the radar, but I guess I would say they're still independently.

32:51Their owned is High Sport. I love High Sport.

32:54Negar Ali Kline: I haven't tried High Sport, but I've had so many people on the podcast rave about it. It's just getting better and better, too. Is it the fit material? What is it? The material. I mean, she has this material that it's like proprietary to her. That's cool. And it's really, it's just a very flattering fabric, the way it sort of holds you in. They're so comfy. I mean, I joke and I'm like, these are my like going out to dinner pants because you can wear them and just like feast and still feel really like comfortable in them. It sounds like my pair of pants. Yeah, they're great. Again, I don't know if this is under the radar, but I love that brand Rohe.

33:29Is that how you say it?

33:30Negar Ali Kline: I just got two things from them this morning. I love that brand. I think they're great. As someone who is always looking, as I mentioned before, for like things that are a little sculptural. I feel like they do such a good job of that. It is pricey, but I love that brand. It's very cool, like chic, but something with a little bit of a twist. Yeah, it's interesting. It's like if you're not gonna, if you can't quite buy the roe, you could buy roe. I know. No roe? Roe. It works. I know. It's really beautiful. Do you have a moment where you had a wardrobe malfunction and you were able to save it? And what was the thing that saved it?

34:07Oh my gosh. There have been so many where we're just like sewing on set, you know? And I don't think people fully understand the speed at which we're working. And so I really, you know, I have a great set team that's very skilled and they're able to, you know, address it quickly, calmly.

34:30Negar Ali Kline: yep I like I'm trying to build like my perfect kit for emergencies yeah nipple covers boob tape band-aids and I don't leave anywhere without it I go everywhere with it see I'm like the cobbler without shoes because I have that I have that for you know for projects right of course and I make sure like for example that all my actors have like the best like shoe inserts that's so comfy and I make sure that they have, you know, the perfect underpinnings for everything. But then when it comes to myself, I'm like, never even think about it. Do you have a sewing kit? Can you sew? It's funny. When I was younger and I was like first trying to like get into fashion and I was going to events and pulling things for the first time, I would like tack the bottom of pants and then I'd see pictures of myself and be like, whoa, girl, what do we think we're doing?

35:21Negar Ali Kline: Well, you need that stitching gun. Are you familiar with that? Oh, of course. Okay. That's what we use on set because there's no time to thread a needle. You're just tacking things together. I love it for other things than just a hem. I love it like if I want to like wrap a scarf around my neck, I want to tack that scarf down. That's right. I want it for like placement. I'm going to buy it today. I've been thinking about it for a while and I don't know why. Oh, it's very useful. Yeah, but see now that's going to be in my car and I'm going to be tacking everything. Everything. Watch out. Yeah, watch out, Los Angeles.

35:48Negar Ali Kline: She's got a tack gun. We wrapped the show with a couple of fun segments. one of them being called receipts. So I would love to know what is the best investment you've ever made for your probably very fabulous closet. So you would be surprised to hear that I don't shop that much. I mean, I'm extremely discerning because I think I sort of scratched the itch because I shop so much for clients and my projects that when it comes to me, I'm extremely edited. Maybe that's like my background as an editor. But I guess I would say I have a beautiful Christian Dior coat, like this gray wool coat that I plan on wearing when I'm, you know, like 80 years old at Neiman Marcus.

36:33Perfect for lunch. Dream. So that's going to be me, you know. But yeah, that's something that I'll have forever. I think as far as investment pieces go, I have definitely purchased some pretty major coats.

36:47Negar Ali Kline: Interesting for someone who's based in LA. Yeah. But I... It gets cold here. It does. People need to stop saying LA doesn't get cold. Yeah, it gets cold. We see 50s, okay? It's cold. I think I have a beautiful product coat that I'll always, you know, I just feel like amazing when I put it on. I feel powerful when I put it on. So, and most recently I bought a beautiful cake coat. I'm so pro. And Angelino being on this show telling me that they're buying coats. Bring it on. Please. Do you not buy coats? I do. I have quite a few. I've missed them in this heat wave that we've been in. I also just don't feel dressed.

37:25Negar Ali Kline: Without a coat on. If I'm going out at night and I have on like, even if I'm, I have to wear a coat. Absolutely. Even if I'm going to remove it the moment I walk in. Yeah. It's not about, we're not dressing for temperature. Right. I just don't feel fully finished until I put on that last piece. I know. We also have another segment called Let's Get You Dressed. I'm excited to hear from you on this. A lot of people are wondering, what are we wearing for the holidays? Like, what are we wearing to Thanksgiving dinner? I think tonal dressing really takes the guesswork out of so much, right? Oh, yeah.

37:53Like if you just do an all-navy look or an all-brown look where it's like beautiful brown sweater with a brown slip skirt, likewise, like a beautiful navy, you know, blouse with navy trousers, it takes the guesswork out of it and you look instantly polished and it works. So when sort of like when in doubt and you're kind of like, oh my god, what am I going to do today? That's definitely something that you could go to that easily solves the, you know, the dilemma.

38:22Negar Ali Kline: Absolutely. I tried that this morning, actually. I remember I had like a pair of brown Prada pants on and then I just pivoted and then we ended up here. But it is true. And I love an all brown look. I love it. I mean, navy for me is like everything. So an all navy look just always works. You know, an all white or an all ivory look is beautiful. I always, I feel my best in white. Yeah. Always. I feel really bright and just light. Yeah. I gravitate towards it all the time. Not the best idea for Thanksgiving. Do not wear all white to Thanksgiving. But I love a winter white. Me too. You know, for the holidays, a winter white could work depending on the texture and like the weight of what you're wearing.

39:01It could work.

39:02Negar Ali Kline: Thank you so much for all of your advice today. Thank you. So much fun to hear a little bit into the background of the show. Again, I loved it. we both binged it in one night and felt so inspired by what we were seeing on the screen. So thank you for your work with that and for coming today.