'He left his wife for his own mother!'

24:11Well, I live in a small city famous for being one of the worst places to live in the UK. Is it Jaywick? Jaywick's famous for being crap. Is it? Yeah. I booked a colonic in a local salon, left baby with dad for the day and went off to get magically skinny. When I walked in, I was greeted by a lady who barely spoke any English and also offered leeching treatment. That's very olden day. Isn't it? To give you an idea of what kind of establishment it was. she proceeded to open a cupboard door and shuffle me into a tiny room with a fold-out bed and an open waste pipe in the corner of the room she locked the door behind her for privacy and at this point i realized things are about to take a turn she started the treatment and i got so anxious that what was being pumped in my body was not letting back out my tummy got rounder and rounder and she started to push down to try and make me release when i finally told her i don't think this was working she relented and agreed that maybe i just need to go to the toilet and let nature take its course at this point my body was telling me i could not hold on for long at all and i was desperate for her to leave the room as i was still naked from the waist down clenching with all my might she then went over to the wash basin slowly removed her glove washed her hands at least three times the running water sound was not helping the situation i was laying on my side thinking that I'm about to pop like a fire hydrant all over the white wall behind me.

25:37I'd be so anxious. When she finally left, I went into the toilet and can only compare it to giving birth a second time round, but with much less notice. Oh, no. I quickly dressed, made polite goodbyes and shuffled down the road, leaving behind all my dignity and what can only be described as the most traumatic shit of my life. Zero out of ten, I do not recommend.

25:56Anna Williamson:No, I've only ever had one colonic and I have to admit it wasn't, it was not a great experience. I had one at Aquatux. Oh, did you? I didn't have mine there. And then I've also had a couple years ago with another lady. And I've had good colonic experiences. It's not the most enjoyable thing. I tend to find I get a bit sweaty and like hot. And I don't. Yeah, I didn't enjoy it. Have you ever had one? No. I thought it was going to be more cleansing than it actually felt at the end of it. Made me feel a bit hot and dizzy. Yeah, I wasn't crazy about it. Do you need to do afterwards? Straight away. Straight away.

26:32You literally shake your pants. Yeah, you need to be near a toilet. And is it just water? Brown water. Brown water.

26:39Anna Williamson:It's like gravy coming out your butt. Wow. Yeah. It is something. Do you feel better after? I can't remember really. Marginally. So, no. It's not for me. It's not for me. It's not for me. Message from Anonymous next. So, Maureen Titsworth. Hi, Luanamo. Please, may you keep me anonymous. Of course, babes. It's taken me 64 days. exactly to write this email as things keep getting better and then get bad again oh okay i'm going to be completely honest in this email because i think it's important you have all the facts before you give me some advice okay i know what parts i will come across badly but i'm okay with that i've been with my partner three years i have a daughter who's seven from a previous relationship and we have a daughter together who's one back when my partner and i first met three and a half years ago it wasn't serious just a quick visit round in the evening for a quick shag and that was it.

27:30Anna Williamson:No strings, no feelings, in and out, see you later. Wham bam. Because I thought I knew this wasn't going to go anywhere, I lied about one part of my life and that lie was that I could drive, when in fact I didn't even have a licence. Now I cannot tell you why I lied about this, it just seems totally bonkers now and I get that. Well we all say and do weird things, don't we? Yeah, quite a big lie. Things actually ended up developing quickly and I ended up falling pregnant so our relationship actually ended up blossoming and we fell in love. Sadly, that pregnancy ended in an early miscarriage. I'm sorry.

28:01Anna Williamson:But our relationship was on the right track, and we continued to stay together. While this is all happening, I haven't even thought about my lie. It never came up. It was a distant memory in the back of my head, but clearly not for him. Eight months in, he asked about driving, and I admitted to them that I had lied. Oh, okay. Fine. And I never had a licence, and I apologised. Admitted I didn't know why I did it. He was upset, but chose to move on. Okay, well, that's fine. Fair enough. We are now three years later and have our beautiful baby girl and I have just gone back to work at a new job after maternity leave.

28:32Anna Williamson:The day I started that job is where it started to go downhill. From day one, he had an issue. We would be communicating with no issues and then his text tone would change and he would fly off the handle over absolutely nothing. Well, that mood would carry on into the evening and I, being the taller, being the taller... Like a bigger person. Oh yeah, being the bigger person that I am, would try to fix it by communicating. the outcome would be that whatever he was in a mood about stemmed from the fact that he cannot trust me because of the lie about the driving licence I would end up crying and apologising and then we would be fine.

29:04Anna Williamson:I thought this would be the end of it but oh how wrong I was most days if not every day it was the same. I would end up grovelling and he would end up telling me how that lie is really mentally affecting him and he can't trust me. He feels like he can't trust her. Strictly one I would sit at work an anxious mess not knowing if his good mood was temporary and that something was set him off in his head. I'm not an anxious person. It takes a lot to change my mood and I very much have the mindset of shit happens get over it. But these were new feelings that I didn't know I had. Accusations started to become more crazy.

29:34Anna Williamson:For context, I got a job in the office of a meat factory which was completely female dominated in the office and male dominated in the factory. According to him, the only way I could have got the job was because I was sleeping with someone in the meat factory. Oh, he just doesn't trust her, does he? No, yeah. And he got and he asked me to go and work in the office. when in reality I saw the job advertised on Facebook, emailed in, got the job that way. I had to show him the email thread to prove that. Another example, he came home one day at lunch from work and the washing machine was on. He flipped out and went into a mood because I'd obviously been home and I turned it on and I was hiding something from him.

30:05Anna Williamson:Oh my God. When in reality I put a timer on the washing machine in the morning so the clothes would be ready to hang out when I got back from work. That is good washing machine. Yeah. But because I didn't mention that to him, I was automatically lying. Why would I tell him anything to do with the washing? The boys never touched the washing machine the whole time we had been together. Now, because of that last situation, I decided we should get Life 360. Bad idea. It apparently showed me on a road next to my work when I was sat at my desk. However, he doesn't have any proof of this. Yet I'd proof in my Life 360 where I was and for how long.

30:37Anna Williamson:But he said I'd probably manipulated it. Oh, he's gone too far now and he needs to get over this shit. Well, let's see how it ends up. He states all of this is because I lied about the license for so long and then eventually told the truth. So what else will I hide from him? What lengths will I go to? And honestly, I do get it. To me, this was innocent, a small lie that went on too long. But I could understand and appreciate why he felt this way and I have been doing all in my power to make him feel better. The issue is that I'm doing nothing, quite literally nothing. Yet I am being blamed for crazy accusations that sometimes make no sense.

31:08Anna Williamson:Every time he's one of these moods, I feel sad. I'm being told the whole time I'm a shit person. So my self-esteem is really being knocked. The final straw was Monday last week when I was at work and he found something else to kick off about. I couldn't take it anymore. I got up from my desk and I left. I quit right there on the spot. I told him that evening that he clearly had an issue with me working there. It's now two weeks later and guess what? No arguments. It's crazy. It's done a 180. I have been out sorting dinners, wandering around town, grabbing coffee at the gym, etc. But yesterday was the first day that I was in a major change mood and rotted in bed with iPlayer on the tablet and scrolled through my phone for hours.

31:49Anna Williamson:It felt good. The kids were at school and I hadn't done it in ages. Cue the mood. He kept sending me things up on Facebook message every single time I was active. I thought it was a joke at first, but then, yeah, you guessed it. He was a dick. He started messaging me about all my new friends. What new friends, you ask? The ones I've obviously been, I've obviously made doom scrolling through social media. Basically, I was far too active on social media for him yesterday, so he had a mood of, oh, dearie me, this is fluggy as hell. Oh, because she's been on social all day. He came home in a mood, making it seem like it was all my fault.

32:22Anna Williamson:And you guessed it, it all stemmed from the driving license. Oh, he needs to get over the driving license thing. He's using that as an excuse to be controlling. Well, exactly. I don't even think the driving license is even the issue. Now, look, she's being worn down even more. She moves on to say, I feel like I'm meant to just get rid of my phone, not get a new job and just sit here doing nothing. Darling, I want you to pause. He's chipping away. Yeah, you've already given up your job and your financial independence. This is emotional control. I recommend a couple therapy, which he was not on board with a month ago, but now has said he wants to go to.

32:54Okay, I would actually encourage this because this will all come out in it,

32:57Anna Williamson:but I'm not feeling in the same headspace as I was a month ago, and so I desperately want to fix it. I think he believes a therapist will completely agree with him and beat me down along with that's why you need to go because they won't. They won't. I am that therapist. They won't. They're unbiased. I've told him this isn't the case, and I actually think he may not like what they have to say. You're right. Seriously. I feel so low at the moment. Every single day I'm walking on eggshells. I've sat down and spoken to him multiple times. I even quit the job I love to help our relationship. He's the love of my life.

33:25Anna Williamson:I just do not know where to go from here. Nothing I do or don't is right. I am not this person and I feel like I'm being mentally dragged down because, darling, you are being mentally abused. Any advice you have, I'm willing to listen to. You're honestly the best and I love listening to the pod and the backlog every single day. Darling. You know what we're going to say? What I'm going to say is he's, regardless of this lie or not, he is controlling. Whether you told that lie or you never lied in your relationship, he's actually using that as an excuse to be controlling with you. Well, it's his trump card every time.

34:03It's his trump card every time. He is the way he is. Like you've already, if you just take a step back, you've quit something that you love to try and placate him. not just in that quitting your job you've given up your financial independence which is so major when you're in a relationship like this because he strips you of that and then he'll strip you of your friends and which he's already doing so saying should i give up my phone absolutely not he has got a shitty personality and shitty traits that he needs to change for this relationship to continue because what he's doing is chipping away at you bit by bit by bit and you are going to become a shell of yourself to constantly constantly try and placate him and you should go to the therapy because he's not he isn't going to like what he's got to him i am really happy that you

34:49Anna Williamson:have messaged us now because i'm hoping we've caught you before this goes down a very dangerous path you did tell an untruth and you know what i think therapy is a brilliant idea because i suspect that there are things in his past where he has had his trust broken maybe from other people who knows maybe not but it might be and he and he is over sensitive to trust issues and i think that is an important thing to bring up in a in a therapy with mediation to unpack where this comes from it may be and or um a result of him being um manipulative and emotionally controlling which he is um to lose point he is starting to erode your self-esteem and the control and you're doing which we hear many times i've been in this position myself the next thing will be you'll just think oh i can't be asked to speak to my friends now for fear of the wrath oh i might just delete my instagram account because i can't be bothered to deal with the and gradually what he is doing is he is isolating you i think that you this i think you're in too deep to be able to handle this yourself because i don't think his response to you will be um an emotionally safe one.

35:59Anna Williamson:I would absolutely now suggest that it is do or die, you need to have therapy. What a couple therapists will do is they will listen to, you don't have to be in person either, you can both do it remotely, you don't even have to be together remotely, you can be on separate video calls in separate rooms, separate houses, wherever it may be. And what a therapist will do is in an unbiased way, they will mediate between the two of you. It is a way to have constructive conversations, but for a very well-trained therapist to unpack what they are hearing what is going on and to reflect back what is okay and what is not okay and if this was me in couples therapy and i am often in this position i will reflect back to that perpetrator and say what you are describing here and what you are doing is wrong yeah and i would ask them to then reflect on what it is but then to ask them to to figure out you know where that's possibly come from and then to build a healthier framework now it may be that you can't get through this relationship and i have to say my experience tells me i don't think it even needs experience i think it just needs gut instinct like lou has as well this is quite a flaggy relationship and i would suggest you proceed with caution but i would say before you throw that baby out with the bath water i would suggest that therapy might be um one i would suggest getting a job because yeah you will feel as time goes on you say it's only been two weeks since you quit that job you are going to feel a lot worse not having like a monthly income and being so dependent on him financially like you you cannot be financially dependent on somebody that is like this in a relationship but he just can't no you're absolutely right and also he will always find something whether it's a job whether it's you scrolling on instagram whether it's you you know walking to a coffee shop even if you're going to bloody soft play with your kid.

37:47If you're ringing

37:47Anna Williamson:your mum, there will be an issue with that. And this is really what happens. So, Lou's right. You need to hold on to your independence. You need to hold on to speaking to friends, to reaching out, to keeping that support network. And you need to get hold of it now, my darling. You do. Keep us posted. Please give us updates. I really hate reading stories, guys, and then we don't get an update. It makes me lose sleep at night. So please update us. Right, we've got another message in from and on. We've called you Winifred. Hi, Luanamo. Funny story for you. But I feel I need to paint a picture for you first.

38:19As Anna would say, settle in, Pete. Here we go. When I was growing up, I quite frequently, especially at weekends, got woken up by my parents shagging. Oh, great. Before I really even knew what sex was, they were headboard. Wow. Headboard, banging, moaning loudly, randy and extremely loud. My first boyfriend's parents were loud.

38:39Anna Williamson:Really? We would be like the teenagers in his bed, literally looking at each other coldly as his parents were absolutely going for it in the next room. And they didn't care? No, they were really sexually liberal. Stop. Literally, the pair of us, like two 17-year-olds. You'd never say anything. His mum was always walking around in her sexy nightie. No. I love that. Maybe I should get more sexy nighties. We always used to hear him shagging on a Saturday morning. Stop. What did his boyfriend say? He was like, he was quite like chill about it. He was like, oh, it's so disgusting. I mean, it worked because it meant we didn't have sex.

39:17Anna Williamson:Because we were like, that's so icky. He was like, oh, God. You know, we used to put the telly on. That was the cut. Turn it right up. Oh, Monty Don gardener's world. We'd sit there with our cup of tea and our bicky listening to his parents shagging. Oh, God. Anyway, so this person also got woken up by the parents shagging. He says, before I really even knew what sex was, they were headboard banging, moaning loudly randy uh i used to dread sleepovers with my friends in case my parents would make my friends up too and then my life would be unbearable if work got round at school social suicide i was far too embarrassed to ever bring it up with my parents so it just went on and on for years anyway one night when i was about 20 and still living with my parents i'm in my 40s now i'd gone on a night out with my friends met a lad and we'd copped off at the end of the night he very kindly offered to walk me home.

40:08As we approached my parents' house, I could hear noises. Oh my God, they were at it. Oh no.

40:16Anna Williamson:I mean, I'm here for the sex life though. I tried my best to say my goodbyes to the lad I was with, but he kept walking, obviously wanting a snug on the doorstep. Unfortunately, it was summer and my parents' bedroom was at the front of the house and the windows were wide open. He heard... he heard then roared with laughter exclaiming oh my god your mum's getting ghosted stop it I wanted the crown to swallow me in the end we sat on a wall a few houses away and waited for their bedroom lamp to go off which it eventually did after him saying that my dad was a stallion oh no the next morning I told my mum what happened and she thought it was hilarious and everyone who rang up that day got the story.

41:06I never did meet up with this lad again, but we still live in the same town and sometimes we bump into each other and he always has this knowing little smile plastered across his face. Needless to say, as a parent of two teenagers, I have never and will never put them through the trauma of hearing their dad and I have sex. Please tell me I'm not the only one who had rampant parents. Call me Winifred after my amazing nana. I love the pod. Keep doing what you're doing. Wow. I love the healthy sex life. I've never heard my parents. No. I mean, I've heard enough stories about my parents shagging. So have I about your parents.

41:39Anna Williamson:Oh, God, they love telling me a good old sex story. I am forever grateful that that is never a topic that has ever nor will ever be discussed with my parents. What about your parents? That is a complete line cross. I don't remember ever hearing them. No. But they did break up when I was 13. Oh. Did you hear any of the relationships after shagging? like your dad's girlfriend your mum's boyfriend no but I remember one time I had my best mate Ellie was over after school and we must have been like 14 15 maybe and it was like my mum's first boyfriend after my dad I don't know if she didn't like me saying this but I'm gonna say anyway fuck it anyway and I we came down to get a drink from the kitchen and he was over and my mum was sat straddling him in the kitchen.

42:32And it was really, I don't know if I've changed this memory in my head. What, as in dry humping? No. As in he was sat on the chair and she was sat on his lap straddling him. Facing his face. Facing him. Yeah, but were they naked? No, they were fully clothed. They were having a little snog. Oh, she was just having a little kiss and a cudgel. Yeah, but I just remember going down there with my best friend thinking, What the fuck? Oh, this is so embarrassing. They were pretty having a little snoggy. I know, but I was just like, Alright mum. What's happening? Mum's nun was throbbing. She was just like chatting to us and I was like this is very weird.

43:06Anna Williamson:But it's also I think it's so nice to like show your children that you have affection for each other as well within a boundary. Yeah but you didn't like it because it was a boyfriend I didn't like yeah it was very soon after I think it was a bit much. But don't you remember a bit too much a bit soon. If Alex and I like kiss in the kitchen and stuff like the kids like get really really Oh Clemmie it's me and Andrew Clemmie tries to get in the middle. Yeah, they're like, stop it. They hate it. They hate it. No, they get embarrassed. Remember, if you want to get in touch, you can email us, Luanna at everythingluanna.com.

43:38You can also drop us a WhatsApp on 075-215-64640.

43:47Anna Williamson:Hey, man, you hungry? Let's order delivery. Yeah. I was thinking... Italian. Burgers? Oh. Game night, just got tense. Two bros on different sides of the fence. Burgers or pasta tonight. Why can't we have food without the fact? With Wonder, you can combine 20 restaurants in one delivery, so no one has to settle. Use code MEALTIME for 50 % off your first Wonder order. Terms apply. See wonder.com slash new customer. Right, what we're chatting about today? We're talking about dumb fuck children. And this doesn't surprise me, quite frankly, that Gen Z is the first generation that's dumber than their parents, neuroscientists have claimed.

44:33However, I would just like to say we did do year four maths.

44:36Anna Williamson:Yes, we did. And I can confirm that my nine-year-old is more smart than me. Well, this is Gen Z. It's something that no modern generation has managed to pull off before. So there's been more than a century of steady academic gains. Test scores finally went in the other direction. So for the first time ever, this new generation is officially dumber than the previous one. Oh, we've got no hope. No, this has come from a review from a neuroscientist, Jard Cooney Horvath. Don't think I've said that right. Anyway, see, I'm a dumb fuck. He spent years reviewing standardized testing results across all age groups.

45:18And he said this is the first generation in modern history to score lower on standardized academic tests than the one before it. so yeah but are we seeing in universities

45:29Anna Williamson:and GCSE or not GCSE or whatever you know the gradings are we seeing like more A's and A grade 9's whatever they're called now A stars A stars than we ever have before like genuinely I'm like I don't know why that's true well this is because basically he's saying that this is down to screen time more than half of the time a teenager is awake half of that time that they're awake is spent staring at a screen and he said that you know intelligence and human learning depends on sustained attention interaction with other people and this endless like doom scrolling condensed content they don't offer either also what I noticed especially with Dixie where she is that kind of first generation type of phone their attention span is very poor because they're just used to scroll like look at that for five seconds move on look at that for five seconds it's the dopamine fix yeah and that is proven yeah so This is what it's saying.

46:22They're bouncing between social feeds and bites those explanations of material they never sat with for long enough. They're just skimming things. They're not building any depth. He says, I'm not anti-tech, but I'm pro-rigor. Rigor, in his view, comes from friction, reading full text, working through confusion, spending time with material that doesn't immediately reward you. So if you take that away, your cognitive skills are dulling down. Your brains are adapting to the environment that they're given. and this one prizes speed overstaying power. And so this decline is appearing outside of the US, roughly across 80 countries.

46:59And it's just a sad fact that our kids are less cognitively capable than we were at their age.

47:05Anna Williamson:And his recommendation focused on restraint, dialing back screens in schools and restoring depth before the next generation is doomed. And I think a lot of people are doing that. I mean, the whole world bolted way, way along ago. But I suppose, you know, as we know with Gen Z, is that this is the first generation that have accessed all of this tech. You know, we didn't have it. And I'm bloody happy that we didn't. Like, I think some of it is not their fault because they are in this sort of digital age that we're in. But I think we're all trying now, aren't we? We're trying to claw back now. And it's really hard because, like you say, the horse is bolted and we're scrambling trying to bring it back.

47:45Well, we're trying to fix it now. We are fixing it with our kit. Like say my kids, you take my three. So Dixie's nearly 16 and the other two are nine and eight. And I know that I won't make the same mistakes with the two younger ones that I have made with Dixie. That's why they don't have tech. Because I don't want roadblocks. I don't want all that shit because I know what it's done to Dixie. And I feel like the horse has bolted. And I've had that one to experiment with. I feel like other people that haven't had that advantage where I've got a big age gap, they don't have that. They're going in blindly.

48:19I have the advantage of hindsight, right? And I can see what it's done for Dixie. And even, you know, when you think, oh, it's so cute, they can message their friends on the weekends and stuff. No, my kids do not do that. Yeah, it's not cute because it's damaging.

48:32Anna Williamson:Well, I think it's everything in moderation, isn't it? And I know it is hard. I mean, I'm permanently battling it. Well, I am and I'm not. You know, I'm quite a hard... You do a lot with the kids. I'm quite boundary. Active and outside. Oh, they're only allowed an hour screen time a day. You know, Indy and Clemmie have friends at school. I haven't noticed it as much in Dubai actually, but definitely in England. Maybe they're outdoors more. They're just always being kids. You know, when they had iPads and if they had their little hour or half an hour here and there at a weekend. I mean, this one girl was just constantly online.

49:03Like the mum just fucking gave her an iPad all weekend. We don't really get that in Dubai because it is a more outdoorsy lifestyle for now while the weather's good. Well, this is it.

49:11Anna Williamson:I mean, and it is hard, but it's, I mean, I mean, we give the kids an hour screen time and then trying to give them a little bit of that control, it's like they can then choose how they want to apportion that in the day. It's like if you use it all up in the morning, you won't have any money. And they like to decompress after school. I'm fine with that. But it's also little things, I think, where schools now are picking up that responsibility. And credit to our school, they've got a new parent forum, which they started. And they just started now with meetings, which is really lovely to see parents really wanting to get involved with them because a lot of parents were saying, look, we don't want the homework that's coming back to be on screen.

49:45Anna Williamson:a lot of their times table it is all on screen but it is also even spelling and equally it is fun and they do find it a bit more fun but lots of parents are saying can we make sure we have the majority of paper homework not homework that's on the tablets and actually every credit to our school as well you know the Duke of Edinburgh award there's like a kids version now which schools can sign up for it's called the Junior Duke and our school have signed up for it and it's really lovely and they and our credit again to our deputy head they made the decision to not have it done on tech and again they opted for the physical book so every family every child gets a physical work so nice and it's basically like cubs and brownies yeah you know and like in l's one it's slightly different for which year group you're in but they've got a whole year and you know like this one's like there's a cooking challenge there's a this challenge and they're quite really quite fun and again it's things like that bringing back in core skills but it's wholesome but it's also core skills like sewing like one of them's a knitting one like there's den building there's this there's that and i and i credit the school for doing that and for making it available for all the children and i think that's what we're all trying to do now is push back we are pushing back yeah uh right this is a really fucked up story but a married man has left his wife to start a relationship with his own mother.

51:08What? So basically, Bitty. This lady, Kim Ware, she gave birth to Ben. She was only 19. She was in California and she gave him up for adoption and then she came back to the UK. And anyway, then back in 2013, Ben decided to seek out his biological mother. They stayed in contact, phone calls, letters, then they met a year later. Anyway, what obviously should have been quite an emotional meeting between mother and son, suddenly turned sexual.

51:39Anna Williamson:Ben admitted that the encounters were so mind-blowing that he felt compelled to leave his wife Victoria for two years. He could no longer be intimate with her unless he imagined she was his mother. She was her mother. Kim told the New Day newspaper back in 2016 that the lady, the mum, was welcoming, yet I couldn't warn to her. I felt a growing sense of competition. And when Ben touched her, I felt jealous. That's the mum was jealous of the wife. Yeah, yeah. I became even more aware of the fact that she thought I was spending too much time with Ben. She would constantly call him when we were together.

52:09Anna Williamson:Eventually he admitted that she was giving him grief about spending time with me and she calls you mummy girlfriend, he said. Wow. Well, obviously it's illegal. It's a totally incestuous relationship. And despite the threat of a 15-year sentence hanging over their heads, they're going to get married. How is that legal? They've even spoken about wanting to try for children, claiming that they would use surrogacy if they could not conceive naturally. But obviously, when you're having an incestuous relationship, there is a higher risk of genetic problems because it's inbreeding. They claim that their situation is an incest and rather a genetic sexual attraction, which supposedly occurs.

52:51This is relatively common when things like this happen. So it's when relatives meet for the first time as adults and they get this sexual attraction due to the intimacy they miss when they're younger. You see it often with siblings when siblings are suddenly reunited. It's called this genetic GSA. Yeah, it is. And they've said it's not incest, it is GSA, this genetic sexual attraction. We're peas in a pod and we're meant to be together, the mum Kim added. So people say we're disgusting, but you're hit with love, it's so consuming. So he admitted to his wife that he'd been, he cheated on his wife with his mum.

53:25And days after meeting his mum, moved in with her in Michigan. and then

53:31Anna Williamson:they could be prosecuted and registered as sex offenders under Michigan law the pair insisted that they were meant to be together it's not known if Kim and Ben disappeared off the radar continued to be in or not I mean obviously this is very wrong but to your point Lou it is actually it's common but it is a thing and it's confusing it's confusing around feelings, emotions oxytocin bonding and it was something i was watching the other day i may have just gone through some random like fake news or something but it was something about research coming through that a mother well actually i did know this because i know about it with miscarriage and stuff but always carries a bit of dna of her baby in in her um and which is why you know how people talk about um that kind of intuition like your baby's hurt that mother's instinct and like and And it was kind of, that's the thing for a reason.

54:27Anna Williamson:You are actually connected to your child. And I wonder, I don't know, it's me just making this up, but I wonder if that is a part of it. There is this sort of inherent connection that is really confusing. Well, it makes me feel sick, quite frankly. Yeah, I mean, it's disgusting. Fucking pervs, sickos. That poor wife as well. Imagine your husband leaving you for his own mum. It's embarrassing. That is off. It's very complex. Anyway, from one weird thing, let's just carry on on this weirdo train we're on. And it's time for Here's the Widow of the Week Right, anonymous so Rebecca Hello ladies, I have a massive ick about my boyfriend That I think could be a contender for Widow of the Week My boyfriend however thinks this is completely Normal so please help us settle it Every single day without fail when it's time to Pop our slacks on Pop in my slacks And get comfy on the sofa, my boyfriend Will always pull on a Toweling robe The biggest ick is like a thick robe don't actually even i find this quite i love a dressing gown uh and no i don't mean a towel dressing gown which would also be weird sorry anna no i i'm kind of with you there's a time and a place for a towel dressing gown he will wear a toweling changing robe that you take to the beach what's the difference you might be getting oh i know no i know there's like a toweling i know the one she means it's like a towel but in a dressing gown form like it is a slightly different thing he might be getting out of the shower changing out of work clothes or getting ready for bed but every evening at some point he'll pop on the toweling changing when you go to swimming pools you can get one for like swimming like if you do like swimming or something give me the ick yeah and he'll wear it for the remainder of the night often wearing it in bed and then taking it off in the middle of the night I just couldn't check him no I absolutely hate this and think it's a massive ick watching a grow man wear nothing but a dress made out of towels yes it is ick oh it's the towel dress you know the hoodie one she sent a picture Oh, right.

56:21Anna Williamson:Yeah, you know the hoodie when they give our kids. Oh, yeah. You know, the ones you wear on the beach. He claims it's so comfy and none of his clothes are as comfy as this, despite having a wardrobe full of loungewear. I'm hoping Lou will back me up. It's a towel dress. Yeah, it is a version of towel dressing gowns. For reference, please see the hideous robe. Yes. Oh, no. Can I say, actually, I prefer that to a dressing gown. I do not. If my husband was walking around in a towel dress. I would prefer that to a dressing gown. But I think you're scarred through dressing gowns from the first husband.

56:50Anna Williamson:Yeah, because that bothers me a hell of a lot more than a dressing gown. No, that wouldn't. I'd rather that. I don't want to see a man in a dressing gown. I do not want to see my husband in a dressing gown in the middle of the day either. No, that's a hard no as well. So that is weird. Let's see if Barbara is weirder. Hey, Luanamo. Currently on Matt Leave and your Rants, Bants and Explicit content is keeping me very sane. Please keep me known and give me the granny name of Barbara. I've only just entered 2025 in the world of Luana, so I hope you're still doing this Weirder of the Week in 26. We are, we are.

57:21But I need to know if I'm weird. Since giving birth to my little boy three months ago, I've developed two tiny hemorrhoids. They don't cause me any discomfort, so I haven't really made any great efforts to get rid of them. When I'm in the shower, I find nothing more satisfying than giving them a little poke and a fiddle. As I said, they don't hurt, just find it quite fun. Is that weird? Love the pod and all that jazz. I mean, I've had a couple of farmers in my life,

57:44Anna Williamson:but I definitely don't give them a poke, babes. It's painful. poking the what's that poking the fire stoking the fire stoking the fire I've never had hemorrhoids I'm very lucky yeah I've got them after giving birth to Enzo I mean even that aside it's still the dressing gown that's bothering me a lot actually I don't like that dressing gown I think that the dressing gown would bother me more than like you poking your own arse yeah no I don't because that dressing gown is affecting like her the relationship the relationship it's respecting your libido and he's wearing that in bed imagine trying to have a shag and he's lifting up his little dress.

58:16Oh, he's drifting up his little dress. Also, I think there's something quite sexy about

58:20Anna Williamson:like a nice little kind of like trackie. Like as long as it's a nice one, there's something quite sexy about a nice trackie. Yeah. Not that. Okay, so we're crowning the towel dressing gown offender. The toweling dress man. Yeah. That's the weirdo of the week this week. Well done. I'm not ranting this week because we've gone on for quite a while and also I'm quite mellow. I love that. Mellow and yellow. That's how we will be. It was all yellow. so that is it for this week's Luana the pod don't worry we will be here on Monday but you don't have to wait until then because on Thursday we do of course have Luana totally extra and for that in the words of that Winston Churchill we need you we need you you can send your emails in Luana at everythingluana.com you can also hop onto WhatsApp send us a voice note or a message our number is 075 215 5-6-4-6-4-0.

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