'If you were on the jury, what would your verdict have been?'

24:18Anna Williamson:Isn't it space docking? We talked about this, where you freeze a shit in cling film and then use that as a dildo. Yeah. I could have done that with that one. Anyway, after that plug came out, it was bad. Non-stop. I had the shits really bad. I had a poorly tummy. I was stinking the plane. out and I could tell that this guy next to me, he knew it was me. And I just kept hiding in my little seat. And anyway, then I had to go to the toilet. Well, three flushes and there were still skiddies. It was bad. Then we came into land. Dangerous territory on a plane. Seatbelt sign was on and I thought, oh no.

24:56Oh no, I've got to go.

24:58Anna Williamson:Oh, you really did have the old shots. I couldn't go. Seatbelt sign was on and I just thought, I'm clenching, I'm clenching. And then I let one out and then I felt it. It was wet. You did a wet fart. And then I had to sit there. What sort of pants were you wearing? Just a thong. Oh. So it would have spread around the cheeks. Anyway, so then I'm off the plane first. And then before passport control, there's a toilet. I'm dashing in that toilet. Taking those knickknacks. Right. Go to the toilet. More shits. It just didn't stop coming. And then, obviously, everyone has got off the plane and they're going to the toilet too.

25:35so I'm trying to flush and flush and flush and it just kept on going brown backing up the water and then I just had to after three flushes I just put a bit of bog roll in there always the bog roll lid we all know I put my hair in front of my face and I'll just walk out quickly wash my hands and then do a dash for it

25:57Anna Williamson:I'll Barry from my Ryan Air Flight would have been proud of that yeah that's my girl that's my girl it was bad and then I got home and I've still been shitting, even this morning. And I had soup. I had tomato soup last night and it's been red. Oh. And then I thought, I've got colon cancer. Well, it's red. Then I realised, no, it's just tomato soup that I've eaten. I once went to, of course I did, went to the doctors because I pooed what looked like blood. Also, I must just say, guys. Was it beetroot? It was beetroot, yeah. We all know to be careful to check our poo, which we all must. But yeah, it was actually beetroot.

26:30Anna Williamson:It was quite common, that. Anyway, enough about sharting. Yes. A lot of people, I'll just talk about this. Oh, yes. Are invested in my Mrs. Markle. Brilliant. You were like Miss Markle. I was like, Miss Marple, babes. Miss Marble. Marple. With a P. Okay, Miss Marple. But it's you, so I love it. My mystery. So just quickly bring everyone up to speed if they haven't seen your Instagram. So if you haven't seen my Instagram, I got, like, everyone in Dubai has cameras. And my car got done for speeding. it was doing 136 in 100 at 12 25 a.m on the 6th of february on shakeside road okay now i was like who's been driving the car andrew and i are in bed nanny c that lives in she'd been out and come back my filipino driver has gone back to the philippines to get married have a lovely time francis getting married if you're listening not that he'll be listening but you know send in love and so he left on the 5th and then I've got the housekeeper who lives in which is Frances's mum Lani and then I've got temporary driver because Frances is away Sharif and then I've got another driver a Hamid right so there was 6 potential suspects in this crime it's like Cluedo me Andrew Hamid Sharif Lani housekeeper Nani C I asked Nat but she was in bed at home she's moved out now anyway so it was really weird I said to Hamid go to the police station see who's driving the car so off he trots to the police station and he messages me ma 'am it's not clear I was like is it definitely our car he's like it's definitely our car same car same make same model with our number player I'm like this is really weird like was it I said to the new driver was it you no I said to the nanny was it you no then I'm like has Andrew been sneaking out why would he take my car though weird really weird so then I thought well maybe the housekeeper doesn't drive Lani so I thought maybe she's got like one of her mates to come and take her somewhere and they're like rushing back could not figure out, everyone's denying it, said to the new driver he's like no, really isn't me, check the cameras, anyway I asked our community security and I'm like can you look, can you check the cameras I've been done at this time, the car was in the garage, so basically I got home at 10 30 that night yeah okay and then the driver said to me can i take the car to go and pick my things up because he's moved in for a bit while francis is away and i was like yeah so he went to get the other driver and then they brought his things and so they used the car well the nanny got home from the cinema at 11 30 and she saw ahamid the driver walking home so it couldn't be him right because he's like he's been seen walking home custody and then the nanny's come in at half 11 and then she said and the other driver said both cars are in the garage so i knew that the car had to have left the garage between 11 30 and then it's been done at 12 25 so i got the security and i'm like can you check the cameras and they messaged me back and they're like we've looked at the cameras the car didn't leave the community it got back to the community at 11 01 and it didn't leave again until 6.55 the next day.

29:46Anna Williamson:Bingo. So it couldn't be my car. Couldn't be your car. It's a doppelganger. So I think that in the land of no crime, I've moved to Dubai, boasting, it's so safe and there's no crime and that's why I'm moving there. Within two months of moving, my car has been cloned and some reprobate is speeding around Dubai and I'm now getting done for it. Like you said, this is fucking brilliant. It's not. But 38 years in the UK, how many crimes have happened to you? Quite a few. Okay, fair. To be fair. But nothing like this. Nothing significant in the last few years. So now I'm like, she's been in Dubai two months.

30:28Anna Williamson:Fucking car. She's got a proper police fine and everything. Terrible. So, but... Well, now I'm back in England. I actually need to message a Hamid and say, like, go. And then we checked our CCTV and the car is genuinely in the garage. It can't be my car. oh fuck so you can prove that's what genuinely like what happens in this they're quite good so we'll just how tolerant are they no they're really good they'll just be like because they know that it happens loads of people if you follow my Instagram sent me the TikTok of a girl called Emily Abrahams and it's happened to her as well fucking longest TikTok in the world I had to watch that shit for five minutes before she actually got to the point listen don't knock it love that could be your alibi do you know what I mean yeah well anyway so basically now Hammond's got to go back to the police station and show them that the car was in the garage because if not, they impound the car.

31:12They'll just take the car if you don't pay the fine. How much is the fine? 700 dirham, which is 100 and something pounds. Oh.

31:21Anna Williamson:And do you get like, is there any like extra like, I was going to say, is there like something else? It's not like here there. Like you can get loads of black points and they don't take your license. You just keep getting black points. It's just like little black on the lucas. You can get like 100 black points, I think. It's like ridiculous. Don't really understand it. So don't actually drive there that much. But it's quite good when you get a fine, like it notifies you straight away on an app and then you can see that it's, I have to say, very efficient there. But anyway, so that is the car mystery.

31:47Well, that is a mystery. So really what we've come up with is someone has cloned your plates, right? Yeah, but the plates are on like exactly the same car, like same model, same make, same colour. But I guess genuinely though, a sophisticated,

31:58Anna Williamson:they do that here, don't they? Yeah, well loads of people said it's happened to them in England. It actually has. I've never heard of this before. Yeah, no, it has. Years ago, my mum and dad's house got burgled and the car that was used for the burglary was exactly the same car make model clone plate just a professional burglar which they then go and ditch you know somewhere else in the uk but it's quite common i think i mean i remember hearing about it then but how do they know that that's the car and the make and the model like to i guess they just target it and i don't know if you can look it up because in the uk you can look it up yeah like because i could put in like say any And no T-text.

32:35Anna Williamson:You can put in any number plate that say, make, model. And you just get the same car. So I guess they just buy that car and then they... Find a plate that matches the car model. Crazy. Well, at least you're not going to be done. No banged up abroad this month. No banged up abroad this month. Hooray. Right, shall we move on? Yes, two. It's the Rekos Erko. The Rekos Erko. It's the Rekos Erko. Ba-da-bum. Okay. Strong. Shall you start, Lisa? Okay, I've got a Rekos Erko. It might look like I'm drinking pond water today. Actually tastes quite nice. It actually is really nice. Total transparency. I only come up with this this morning and I've just filmed an ad for this company.

33:18But it tastes really good. It's called Freesoul and it's like a drink. It's like a powder. What does it do? And you add it to it. Well, it's just good for you. What's it got in it? Ashwagandha. Ashwagandha. Ashwagandha. and other good things. So it's like a health drink. It's a health drink, but it tastes so good, right? Actually, you know how health... You have all tried it. I made you all try it. It's really good.

33:41Anna Williamson:Normally it tastes like shit, these things. Normally they taste like a field. Do you know what I mean? And I'm not into that shit. Like matcha tastes like earth. I like matcha. See, I like that earthy taste. Can't bear it. That I could drink. Anyway, it's really good and I really like the cup they sent me. That's me drinking it and it's not pond water. It tastes like mango. Put a few drops of fresh lemon in it too. Bingo. So a bit of a health drink from Lou today. that's my recosecco that's really prepared my recosecco is a TV show I'm a bit behind everyone did this over kind of Christmas but last week I finished Heated Rivalry have you seen it?

34:17Anna Williamson:no what is it about? Heated Rivalry is a drama-y program-y love-y thing, romance about two... Have you seen it, Bex? Gay hockey fans. I've heard about it. Apparently it's very spicy. Two gay what? Two male gay ice hockey players. Oh, I have heard of this. And there's much raunchiness. Yes. Does it turn you on watching gay porn? I mean, it gave me a bit of a tingle. I don't like guy on guy, but I do get turned on girl on girl. But this is why a lot of people have been talking about this, because it is really sexy. I don't know if I could watch it, because it gives me a bit... I don't know I just go a bit like oh it doesn't I think we should try it what platform is that on?

35:05Anna Williamson:it's on Now TV Now TV oh I've got your account you do can I have your account? yeah of course you can so it's on Now it's on Now it's well good it's not that long I think it's only like six episodes or something for the series and it's not all just sex like there's like there's a really lovely storyline through it and I actually cried it's very heartwarming are they hot guys? yeah they are really hot There's like four really hot guys in there. Do they have an orgy? No. Everyone has been talking about this, to be fair. They've got excellent bottoms. Oh, have they? What, do you actually see like arses shagging?

35:40You see the bum bum.

35:42Anna Williamson:You've seen Brokeback Mountain though, right? I've never seen that. Haven't you? No. That's really good too. Anyway, that's my recommendation. Good Reco Seco, Ims. We will watch that. I do fancy that. My Reco Seco is a show. I do like dinner and a show. How many times have you been to shows recently? This is mine. I love theatre. It galvanises me. Cirque du Soleil. It's been on since Christmas, but it's running through until March. Lots of people like Cirque du Soleil. Some people have never been, but I can really recommend this one. It's Cirque du Soleil at Royal Abbott Hall OVO. It's very bright and colourful.

36:18Anna Williamson:It's quite Rio Carnival-esque. Some of the acrobatics on it, I thought, were some of the best I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of Cirque du Soleil shows. So yeah, that really is my record circuit. fancy a family day out or a date night Royal Albert Hall is such a gorgeous venue go up to the champagne bar like it's just a really nice night out darling the kids would love it as well like it's just really good so I think yeah there's tickets for the next couple of weeks if you want something to do especially while it's a bit drizzly at the moment go and watch that it's full of sunshine and joy sweat love so that's the Reco Seco Evening buyer's remorse buy a new car I'll be moving in Let's get started.

37:00Sorry, I think there's been a mistake. I bought it from Carvana.

37:03Anna Williamson:You what? Yeah, great price. I even have seven days to love it or return it. So there's no... No, no buyer's remorse. More like buyer's rejoice. I guess I'll let myself out. Congratulations. I mean it. Buyer's rejoice. Buy your car today on Carvana. Limitations and exclusions may apply. See our seven-day return policy at Carvana.com. Who says Halloween only lasts one day? With Wayfair, one night of Halloween becomes a whole season at home. From larger-than-life yard decor and moody lighting to festive accents for every room in the house, Wayfair has what you need to make Halloween feel like magic all in one place.

37:39Anna Williamson:Because the best Halloween memories aren't made in just one night. They're made all season long. Shop Halloween decor now at Wayfair.com. That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R dot com. Wayfair, every style, every home. Hey guys, full disclosure, we have recorded today's ep on Friday, just gone. So a couple of hours before we actually did a big Galentine's night in and we couldn't not address it on today's episode. Now I'm not going to lie, if you didn't watch it, you did miss out. But the good news is you can watch it on catch up as well. So if you just head to everythingluanna.com, you can still grab yourself a ticket to watch all of the fun and the antics that went on on friday night it was chaotic and thank you to everybody that joined us we had thousands of you all over the globe actually that tuned in and lots of you saying it was our best one yet so we're just so thankful to you all i don't think we've ever laughed and wet ourselves so much uh lou is still recovering from a massive quadruple loss on the guff game if you don't know what i'm talking about please do get a ticket it's everythingluanna.com and yeah we had the best night and i'm sure that you've seen it all unfold on the socials right back to today's episode just to move on with some messages we've got one from anon we've called you hairbrushinmafani hairbrushinmafani yes there it is uh hey luannamo i was listening to the pod when you spoke about the nature's dick pic calendar i really want that and it reminded me of a story about my amazing crafty artistic nephew who is seven years old that I've been meaning to send in so it was daddy pickup day at school and when my brother-in-law stood in the playground patiently waiting for the kids to come out at the end of the school day there was a table with all the kids clay models they'd handcrafted ready and waiting to be taken home now being a late 30s mature man he instantly spotted the one that looked like an erect penis Another daddy had also noticed and they had a little joke together.

39:48There's always one kind of thing. While he and the other dad stood there sniggering like little boys at the schlong-shaped masterpiece, the children started to come out of their classes, collecting their sculptures and proudly presenting them to their parents. My nephew, proud as punch, came out and collected his model. And yeah, you guessed it, he'd made the dick sculpture. My brother-in-law, whilst attempting to show pride and admiration for his little darling's his piece de resistance was inwardly dying of embarrassment around the other dads. When he asked what the model was, my nephew laughed and said, you know what it is, daddy.

40:22A little bit more mortified, my brother-in-law waited until my nephew then said, it's your favourite, daddy. It's an ice cream. Luckily, my brother-in-law styled it out. And to this day, my gorgeous, creative, sweetheart nephew does not know that he made a penis-looking ice cream. And it sits on the sidebar display in that lounge. I've attached a pit. I love the pod and all the socials you girls keep me going as I drive about doing my jobs as a community children's girl

40:48Anna Williamson:oh well done you it is quite dick light it's very dick light you can see the bell it almost looks like a hand around the base of it as well it looks like a dick being wanked that is very much a penis model congratulations to your nephew brilliant great story thank you message from anonymous Scarlet Flapjoy Brilliant.

41:42Anna Williamson:I feel constantly angry and on edge. My mind spirals into questions I don't even have answers to. Does she excuse racism? How does she reconcile the sexual assault allegations? Where does she stand on Ukraine and Russia? I don't know her views on these things, but the fact I'm always questioning her values makes it hard to relax or feel close to her. Well, what really tipped me over the edge was something that happened yesterday. I saw on Google Reads that she'd added Trump's book, The Art of the Deal, as her current read, and it made her support feel very present and intentional. rather than just a background difference I could ignore.

42:14What are they, friends on some reading thing? What is that?

42:17Anna Williamson:So Goodreads is like an app where you can log your reading and you can follow your friends and see what they're reading and stuff like that. Oh, okay. She'd also previously announced quite seriously that she wants to move to America. Oh, so they are English. I wondered if they're American. This was back in September 25, even though she's never been there and it felt more like an idealised daydream than a realistic plan. still it unsettled me because it seemed tied to the same world view she's also said that she would feel safer if she were able to carry a gun which really stayed with me especially because she's genuinely one of the clumpest people i know okay and it made the gap in how we see safety in the world feel even wider i also know she's already lost several friends because of her trump support which adds another layer i don't want to be judgmental but i also can't ignore how strongly all of this is affecting me i feel torn between finally having an honest conversation about it quietly distancing myself or accepting that this friendship may have run its course.

43:11Anna Williamson:I keep asking myself whether this is just politics or whether it's actually a deep values clash that I'm allowed to take seriously. How do you know when avoiding a topic is healthy and when it's slowly eroding a friendship instead? Thank you. Wow, that's really interesting. I don't really excessively talk about politics with my friends. No, me neither. We don't really talk about it. I actually, quite honestly, this is... I don't avoid it. I just think I don't care that much. Well, I think there is an element of I care, but equally, I do think it is. I mean, it's one of the biggest rules, I believe, is to bring politics around the dinner table.

43:45Anna Williamson:Because everybody does have different views. But this, to me, it does play a lot into the value system. And obviously, it sounds like her friend is very much having different values and a different way of thinking to her friend. And actually, yeah, sometimes if that does play into things more than, as you say, just, you know, water cooler politics chat. Because I would say, like, all four of us in this room probably have quite differing opinions on politics. Yeah, I'd say we probably do have differences. But we're all still like, mate, I wouldn't fall out with Imo because she thinks, like, something different to me.

44:17But I also think that, like, I was talking to Naomi about this.

44:21Anna Williamson:And, for example, like, I voted in Brexit to remain and a friend voted to leave. and i respect that opinion yes that's different political opinions etc etc but i can doesn't mean no one's a bad person doesn't mean you're a bad person something yeah but when it's something that um a political opinion that also reflects someone's values and their morals and what they hold to be homophobic abortion rights women's rights then i think that it does become a valid question to ask yourself yes why are you why are you what have you got in common and i also think that this is this kind of dilemma is happening quite a lot everywhere i'm hearing it with friends with family members with parents with grandparents with uncles aunties like a lot and it's very hard especially when it's someone you love i don't know how close you are to this friend to sometimes park it because sometimes sometimes you are like i just need to not go there with you because i love you and we are just it's not gonna we're not gonna reconcile this which i think is one route to go down depending on the severity of the friendship but if you're not that close and you it depends how much you value it it's really difficult so so i'm thinking now i've got a friend i'm 44 now a friend who i've been friends with since you know primary school and i would say that over yeah over the decades our political views um have become you know very different i'm a bit i do classic fence sitter and i do have my political views but genuinely it's not something i ever want to wear publicly because you it's very personal and private i also flit around quite a bit depending on you know what's going on but i know who i am and i know what my values are i think i'm a bit of a bit of a bit of it but my friend one of my friends in particular has very strong views very strong views of which some of them i don't align with yeah now this is a friendship that is steeped in history and there is a genuine love and i don't but i also respect her opinions and i think opinions come up I'm sorry to interrupt.

46:26Anna Williamson:If they come up, do you talk about them? Do you discuss it and stuff with her? Or do you just let her talk and then just leave it? I leave it. Do you just let her say a piece and you just think, oh, whatever. Not even that disparaging. I just think that's fair enough. That's her opinion. I know of her to know that it's not a conversation I want to get into because I think I don't feel that strongly about it. Yeah, that's what I'm like. to get into a bit of a tete-a-tete, which probably would end up in a bit of a scuffle between us. Not a physical one. I think I'm like that. I just kind of be like, oh, well, if that's what you think.

47:05Because also I am a bit of the opinion and I know that people think I'm really opinionated and stuff, but I just sort of think, well, what difference does my opinion make anyway? It makes no difference. So why bother like even having like the discussion between two parties that don't agree? like say if we didn't agree Anna and we have like this sort of discussion of like disagreement it actually achieves fucking nothing because none of us have any influence in it anyway so what's the bloody point in even talking about it? That is kind of how I feel about stuff I just feel like what's the point because you can't make a difference so why even discuss it?

47:42Might as well just be mates for the reason why you are mates and then be like okay well we don't agree on that but we don't need to extensively discuss it and try it because neither of us are going to change our opinion.

47:53Anna Williamson:Yeah, exactly. I think it matters, like with this person writing in, it's how strongly you feel about your views and how that possibly ties into, and I do get that. I mean, they're names, but you've got, we by proxy have got friends who've left America because of the Trump regime is very much against their lifestyle, their choices and what they stand for. I also know other friends of mine that have also left, ironically left America and come to the UK for reasons I've had friends go to America exactly the one that lived in your village she's gone she's gone yes because they love Trump I mean she's shooting guns and loving life and then I'm not that close to her to be fair and then you know I've got friends that are living in sort of Trumpy areas that are now coming back to the UK because they're just like fuck that and people that they are friends with they're like oh my god like I didn't I didn't know and they've actually actively now sort of avoided people that do have a difficult at the different political opinion to them I think it's so personal and I think with this friendship here it's really difficult to know what best to do without the gravitas of the relationship but I do think yes some friendships do distance because of very strong political views because it does tap more into a values-based system and as you say if this comes into women's rights abortion rights and you can't align even friends and vaccines and stuff exactly you know like i was in the hairdresser yesterday and the lady's pregnant and she was like oh i just don't know what's doing they were having a discussion about and i was like look it's so personal she said well did you vaccinate and i said yeah i did and i said and you know people who don't vaccinate rely on people like me that do vaccinate for their child not to get sick because you have this majority immunity and so then the ones that aren't vaccinated yes they're not getting measles mumps and rubella because most of us have vaccinated against that i was like that's why and then we're seeing massive outbreaks of mumps and and measles and things because people are now choosing not to vaccinate and the influx of people coming from countries with that is now greater anyway and you've got you've got close friends who don't believe in vaccination oh yeah But you've not fallen out with it.

50:05Anna Williamson:And I think this comes, I mean, it's kind of one of those old age rules, you know, not rules, but suggestions, you know, don't bring politics, you know, around the dinner table. It's kind of, I always say if I'm doing relationship counselling, you know, when it's kind of around marriage and stuff like that, there are some off table topics when it comes to, you know, in-laws, for example, where you're never going to, you know, you're having to make the best of a situation. So if you are very wildly politically different, just don't go there. I mean, I'm quite different to my dad. politically some not everything some of the things i i agree but my dad's quite like my dad can be a bit of a challenge and i just don't talk i'm like dad please i'm actually just not interested just don't want to hear about but i think it comes down to really the bedrock of our podcast here is i think we're very aligned in the sense that we respect everybody having an opinion yeah and i don't think any opinion is right or wrong it is just an opinion however it's in the eye of the beholder if they how strongly they feel about that opinion if it's whether they want to align with that person or not and it is very difficult when it is a very long-standing friendship and in this person's case here I get the impression that actually this is now going to tip you over the edge and you're thinking this isn't someone I actually can align with.

51:16And friendships do run their course sometimes you know they they just do and you you come in and out of seasons with friendships and then you might revisit that and you and I just think that if it is affecting you that much and if it does bother you that much then just don't be around them. That's also, you know, I'm quite easy come easy go. And just accept that that friendship

51:35Anna Williamson:is possibly one that needs to be on the peripheral now. Yeah, I think it's very, very tricky. But you're right, Imo that it's very much become such a hotbed now. In friendships you say families and all those kind of things. And Trump is so divisive. And the thing is, it seems like even if you might, it seems like you can't with Trump. You either have to be full on MAGA or you're not at all. And actually there isn't really this in-between of like, do you know what, some of the things he does, I'm all right with because that kind of does make sense. And then that one I'm not all right with. And that kind of annoys me as well because I feel like you can be okay with some of what he does and, you know, like, and then be okay with not some of what he does without having to be then accused of being like full on, oh, you're MAGA, you're this, you're that.

52:25because actually some some things to me make sense and other things i'm like oh what the fuck no way but the problem is the what the fuck no ways is so what the fuck no ways it then is hard to be like well that bit makes sense because it's kind of feels like a slippery slope it's also like

52:43Anna Williamson:um a little bit about i mean not that he's an artist but like the whole thing about like separating the art from the artist right because yes you might agree that some of the things that he has put in place might actually not be that bad might be quite good but then it's like equating that with who he is i was gonna say the overarching person and the things that he may or may not have done the things that he may or may not have said etc and the values that he holds how can you put those together that's the challenge i feel a bit like that with nigel Farage and I feel a bit like it is happening here you know we're talking about Trump in America and actually it's highly likely we might be having this conversation about Nigel Farage and some of the things I I think you know what some of it yeah I probably could vote reform and then I hear other things and I think well there's no fucking way I could vote for that that coming in and you know it's so it's so hard and then I think it's a real risk you know potential massive risk of Nigel Farage getting in because it probably could be Trump Mark II.

53:51And then it's like, but then you kind of feel like, well, the alternative doesn't feel much better over there,

53:59Anna Williamson:possibly, because it feels a bit airy-fairy, wafty-wafty, and this is the challenge. It's really tricky. And I kind of feel like America is a bit like that. Like, what was the other option to Trump? And then they did Trump, and now it's a bit like, oh, fuck, we shouldn't have done that. And I feel like we might be like that with reform. I do. It is quite worrying. Feels like it. Definitely in recent weeks. And I know so many people that are going to vote reform that previously would have voted Labour, that would have voted Conservative, that would have voted Lib Dems. So it's like, it's not just the Conservatives are going to reform.

54:34It's like Labour. What is it you're laughing?

54:38Anna Williamson:Oh, Becca's, yeah. Yeah, but it's like, you know, and that's the problem. And it is like a massive worry because you might, we might put into power someone that could change the country. This country needs a big shake-up, right? And it might be great. But what shake-up, yeah. But there's a huge kind of like... Potential giant slippery slope. Yeah. Big time. Massive, massive, massive. And I just am a bit like, oh, God, I don't... It's squeaky ass. And I think in, you know, sort of, you know, final response to this woman is, I think really underpinning a lot of all of this, it's fear. you know fear and uncertainty because nobody knows which way to go with any of it as you say there doesn't seem to ever be any clear front runner which I think is mad in this world like Kemi Badenoch and that Leila she's good but Leila's reform isn't she I'm pretty sure Leila Cunningham's reform she's brilliant Kemi Badenoch was like I fucking love that Kemi who did she take down in parliament that other week it was Teresa no not to reason Rachel Rees that was it and she proper went in and I fucking I let the kids watch that and she was like you're spineless you're shameless and you're totally aimless oh she did didn't she she was brilliant and then in a way I just think well look she's probably a much safer bet than Nigel Farage you know but then that's conservative again and how much change how much change will that make you don't like Kemi Badenok Bex no pulling her face but i think you know what but i think what is good is that we're probably quite reflective of a lot of conversations going on in all families friendship groups at the moment where and i what i would say is i mean this is me in me and my glass half full i think it's a shame to let politics ruin a friendship that is possibly deep-rooted so i do think there is possibly a a world where you can have a conversation having a conversation just saying yeah i'm you know i'm this is something that does concern me, does make me feel awkward.

56:43Anna Williamson:Have we got anything in common anymore? Yeah. I think you can be open with her and be like, you know what? I've got to bring this up because I'm going to start distancing myself from you. And it's bugging me. You feel like this. I feel like this. Or do you feel like this? Are you actually into the anti-abortion? Are you into this? Or are you just curious? Or is it just a little bit of I kind of agree with this but not that? I think hash it out before you lose a friend. I think so. It's worth hashing it out before you lose a friend. If it's bugging you that much, I think because you say Assumption is a mother of all fuck-ups.

57:13Anna Williamson:I mean, it does sound like, yeah, she is loving a bit of trunk. But you don't really know until, like, to lose point. She might just be really bloody curious. You know, I like to read certain crime things. Someone might think that I'm really into some, like, dodgy fucking crime. I'm not. I'm just curious about it from a psychological point of view. So I think ask the question before you make the decision. Good luck. Message from James. James says, hi, girls. Please do not keep me in on. I'm James, West Wales gay boy and a huge fan of the pod. Something about that, James. Set the scene, post-lockdown 2020, and I meet my now husband.

57:49First sleepover, and I'm given an amazing blowjob. When I completed the deed, he said I was like a Dyson vacuum hoover. I took it as a huge compliment, and I settled my head on the pillow. Then the snoring starts, and when I say snoring, I mean the house vibrating. A plane is coming through the window, chance to sound. five years later I've been badgering my husband that he has sleep apnea I must book a doctor's appointment after a small chat with his best friend and six months of us sleeping in separate rooms sex unknown because this condition affects those type of things the appointment is booked, tests have been done and the machine mask arrives I've given him a couple of nights to get used to it but then Friday night comes he's popped off to bed while I sit with a glass of wine catching up on Netflix shows he doesn't like then suddenly the biggest horn I've ever had comes to me So I make my way up the stairs where he's quietly sleeping, creep into bed, lay my head on his chest, and I start the classic playing of the balls.

58:44It's amazing. Within a couple of minutes, he's rock hard. This type of session could take up to an hour pre-sleep apnea machine with neck and jaw aching. After this precious couple of minutes, I am there, dice and suction, head bobbing up and down, and feeling he's at climax within minutes. He's keeping on brand. As he notifies me, he's about to come. I look up. Oh, no. No. Oh no Oh no I see it Please give me a kink I am giving a blowjob To Darth Vader Heavy breathing While oxygen Is making its way To his lungs The machine then Detects there's a problem And it starts beeping at me All the while My husband is having The time of his life And I'm there thinking He's going to have A heart attack While telling him I'm your father I am your father Or him telling me I'm your father Safe to say My husband enjoyed himself And reminded me I'm like a Dyson not Luke thank god I hope this gave you a giggle and makes it to the pod as I didn't keep myself a non please feel free to say my husband's name too he's called Rob and we both love listening to the pod love you girls James

59:50Anna Williamson:oh thank you so much you sound like you give great blowies by the way I think I need a bit of a lesson honestly I've been lacking in my wifely duties I have babes remember if you want to get in touch just email us it's Luanna at everythingluanna.com Or you can drop us a WhatsApp. 075-215-64640.

1:00:15Evening.

1:00:15Anna Williamson:Buyer's remorse. Buy a new car? I'll be moving in. Let's get started. Sorry, I think there's been a mistake. I bought it from Carvana. You what? Yeah, great price. I even have seven days to love it or return it. So there's no... No, no buyer's remorse. More like buyer's rejoice. I guess I'll let myself out. Congratulations. I mean it. Buyers rejoice. Buy your car today on Carvana. Limitations and exclusions may apply. See our seven-day return policy at Carvana.com. Right, everyone's talking about, everybody is talking about this, the Lucy Letby documentary on Netflix. So it's the investigation of Lucy Letby, the neonatal nurse.

1:00:58Anna Williamson:in July 2024 she was found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder seven more. She is now in jail and she is serving 15 whole life terms for her crimes and the trial was over 10 months. 10 months. 10 months. Imagine being on that jury for 10 months. 10 months. You can't go to work. Yeah. Like who were these people? But what a landmark jury to be on. So Netflix number one loads of people on our Facebook group were talking about it before I even saw that I'd also watched it I bored Becca to death the other day talking about it as well because I mean let's throw it open to the floor girls you've all watched it as well we've all watched it Emma you started there were elements of me falling asleep at times I'm not gonna lie tried to watch it over three days so I mean if you haven't watched it I mean probably a bit of a spoiler now if you don't want to know about it maybe skip five minutes we'll probably skip about ten but it starts And it starts, the kind of the documentary starts with kind of why she was all, you know, went to jail, all this sort of circumstantial evidence.

1:02:04Anna Williamson:And it was very heavily weighted the first half in that she's guilty. She did it. Prosecution. Prosecution. And then, because I was thinking, well, where's this going to go? That's what I thought. I was like, where's it going to go? I thought we've got 25 minutes left. It wasn't very impartial. No. But then you suddenly get the however. And when the defense lawyer is then kicking, once she's gone to jail, once it's all been done, then suddenly the whole reasonable doubt started to kick in and it was a defense lawyer that suddenly went well actually actually are there possibly some other explanations for some of the evidence that was put in place and then that started to unpack and i have to say guys i mean my honest opinion if you were on the jury what would your verdict have been my gut says she's done it i don't know other than my gut yeah but when you look at the other because i and i think it ended the documentary when um one of the the experts that was you know one of the talking heads said if she is guilty with your she's really bloody exactly if you're on a jury but this is it you have to absolutely know be sure that she's done it because you're fucking with someone's life exactly so as he said at the end he went if she um isn't guilty she is one unlucky person because of the weight of circumstantial evidence against it, which includes things like she was on all the shifts when all the babies in question were affected.

1:03:28Anna Williamson:The hospital claim that since she's been removed, there has been no more deaths. But you know the hospital's been downgraded. Exactly, which you get all of this encounter evidence once you see the second half of it. So, but to your point there, Lou, not one person in that could say that she'd done it. The majority jury did think she'd done it. She's gone down for it. And seven counts, they found her guilty of. But they didn't have the second part of the documentary evidence when she was sent down. It was all done based on the first prosecution, on that doctor evidence person that said, these are the circumstantial evidence.

1:04:04Anna Williamson:Or the second part of the documentary was not used in court. Why didn't they use it? So, my view on it, on the documentary, on the situation is... Wait, sorry, you're guilty. You would say guilty. can't say for sure so you'd say not guilty if you're on the jury I guess if it's not a hell yes it's a hell no I don't think she's guilty I if I were on that jury for that trial I would have said guilty with the evidence that was put forward to me knowing what I know now I would question if there is even a crime to have a trial for and if there isn't a crime or a murder to be on trial for, then the rest is, there's no point discussing the rest.

1:04:54Anna Williamson:However, if there was a murder and there was a trial, with all the information, if there was like a new trial, which I know they're pushing for with this new information, I don't think it would go past the threshold of reasonable doubt. I think that's the threshold. I think that's the threshold. I think that I would agree that since all that extra evidence has come through, which was suggested in the documentary, I'm with you in that. And I think if it's not a hell, yeah, it's a hell. It's a no, because it is someone's life you're playing with. But then I'm just going to throw it over there. But then you've got all these parents over here who are going, all right, but what about my baby?

1:05:36Anna Williamson:My baby died. And has it been? But these were very vulnerable babies. Like they weren't healthy babies. And babies are vulnerable. But then a lot of the evidence was saying that the babies who were getting better were expected to get better. So I've done much of deep dive. You've gone deep diving more than we have. Like really, really deep dive. And I feel about the documentary is that I think it was really good because I think the wider public did not know that this, what they call it, thing, press conference thing with the doctor who refutes the evidence. I don't think the majority of the public knew that that had happened and hadn't heard that evidence.

1:06:22Anna Williamson:And therefore, I think the documentary is good in bringing that to light and will put pressure on the people calling for a new trial. Do you mean the doctor that wrote the paper? So that press conference, you mean? Yeah, so rewind. So basically what happened was there was a expert witness doctor called Dr. Dowie Evans. and he was the prosecutor's star witness expert person. And he was sent all the unexplained kind of crashes and deaths and stuff that were happening in this hospital. And he looked through them. And basically what he did was look, I think he was given, he picked out 61. And from those 61, he put into two piles of like suspicious deaths and non-suspicious deaths.

1:07:13Anna Williamson:I think he found 25 suspicious and 30 something else, 32, 36 non-suspicious. We don't know how he decided what was suspicious and non-suspicious because he didn't put down his findings. Was he the doctor working at the hospital as well? No, no, no. He was an... Impartial. External fella. So we don't know how he decided that, even though some of the deaths in the suspicious and the non-suspicious are almost identical. So we don't know what made him put it in the suspicious pattern. It's been like weight of the baby, like blah, blah, like different stuff. Stuff like that. But there was one thing in common with the 25 that he found suspicious, and that was Lucy Letby, which is interesting.

1:07:56Anna Williamson:Had you taken all the 61 deaths and picked out any 25 and picked out one nurse, you could have put 25 to any one nurse, basically. Anyway, rewind, rewind, rewind. some of those uh suspicious deaths um they uh put their deaths down to like air embolisms that's it the embolisms yeah and he said that uh you could show it was an air embolism because of mottling of the skin they had like a rash discoloration discoloration of the skin and that's what he put it down to citing a paper from this doctor called dr shoo lee yeah and so rewind rewind rewind she was then that was all then used in court um and stuff to put forward as evidence and then once uh she was she'd been she'd gone down for it dr shooley actually found out about this has all happened and he was like hold up a second how has it been interpreted how's my paper he said well actually uh in my paper that i wrote that you're now using as evidence we only found on our sample size that only 10 % of those babies that had air embolism showed skin discolouration.

1:09:14Anna Williamson:So for all of those babies to show skin discolouration is quite rare. And he also said that in his paper he only looked at arterial air embolisms where air is put into their veins. Is that how they're saying she killed them? By injecting air? That was one of the theories, wasn't it? So, sorry, his paper was looking at arterial air embolisms, but all of Lucy Lepby's were injected into their veins via an IV, which, so that's like a venous air embolism. So it's a different type of air embolism, period. So it shouldn't have been used as evidence. Anyway, there was many things. Then he was like, I'm not like happy with what's going on.

1:09:59Anna Williamson:That's right. So Dr. Shuli. So then he put together basically the Avengers of doctors. He brought together the top doctors in their fields. I think I really fell asleep during this. He put together a committee basically. We're going to take a whole look at this. The leaders of neonatal units like from some of the most prestigious institutions around the world, including a doctor who was a professor of neonatal medicine at Imperial College and the former president of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health in the UK. Was that the Chinese guy? That's Dr. Shuli. Yeah, that's Dr. Shuli. Oh, Dr.

1:10:34Shuli is Chinese.

1:10:35Anna Williamson:So then he put together the Avengers and they looked at all of the deaths and in no cases did they find murder. They found a different reason for the deaths of every single one of the babies. Which they then presented in a press conference. Yeah. But there's been no retrial. Not yet. There must be. She's got a right to appeal. They're trying to use that. Well, in the UK, getting an appeal is extraordinarily difficult. Oh, really? You can only get an appeal if there is new evidence. It's not like these states where like... You can do the same evidence. And if you've got shit representation, you can go again, which she, in my opinion, did have.

1:11:18Anna Williamson:You need new evidence. But this wasn't counted as new evidence because that paper was open for anyone to see. it was used as evidence it was just a different interpretation and her defence didn't do a good job of defending yeah and her defence never brought forward any witnesses any experts or witnesses even though even though that professor of neonatal medicine at Imperial College and Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health who was on Shuli's panel she contacted the defence and they never got back to her isn't that crazy it's like they'd already made up their minds made up their mind and the defense just sort of went through the motions and i'm guessing it was legal aid i don't know who knows my my other thing that um that i found really interesting about it was the um because one of the big pieces of evidence that they used to convict her was her letters which they found and i suppose probably because i have a psychological interest in in things like that but when again the alternative explanation was given to that i started to go I could see that be plausible because that is what I do with some of my therapy clients which is free association which is just writing down your thoughts and the reason for that so if you haven't seen the letters she'd written sentences saying I killed them it's all my fault but then they didn't give the other letters where she wrote the opposite to that like I'm this is a set up I'm using a scapegoat exactly but on that damning letter okay now yes it could be an admission It could be an omission of guilt, but it also could be because I use it, this method and technique, when someone and they explained it that when she'd been sort of sacked off, she was given occupational health, whatever it is, and a therapist to be able to help support her during the trial, which is kind of, you know, what you have to do.

1:13:13Anna Williamson:Part of the technique the therapist had given her was free association. Write down your feelings, write down the thoughts in your head. So it is very plausible, in my opinion, having used the technique, that the statements of I killed them, it's my fault, is a purging of the projection that has been placed on you. Now, we will never know unless she admits that. But there is, for me, reasonable doubt on the interpretation of that letter. Because a lot of people, I myself have done it. Why would she write that down? A bit stupid. But if you're not thinking straight. To write that down. But she would never have thought that this was...

1:13:49She knows that she's been accused.

1:13:50Anna Williamson:But I guess if you've got nothing to hide, you don't think that intelligently anyway. You're just, you know, and if that is just a method of scribbling... But, you know, it's journaling. I mean, you know, I journal. And you do just sometimes offload your emotions. If I was on trial for murder, I wouldn't be journaling shit, put it that way. I wouldn't be writing anything down that could incriminate me. I'm sure she's wishing she wasn't. But I think... That doesn't make sense to me why she did that. Guilty or not guilty. It's a weird thing to do. but weird doesn't make you a murderer well no exactly but what I mean it's just bizarre but if you're not of sound mind which I don't know if she was or she wasn't but you know if you are that distraught she looks like a broken woman exactly if you're not of sound mind and you are sitting in there and your whole world has collapsed you're just purging you're not thinking straight it's her bad practice that's killing babies so I guess you would just internalise stuff but I think we also have to remember here just flipping something this is why the documentary has created so many um conversations exactly why we're doing it here today at the heart of it you know there are these little babies that are no longer here obviously sympathies with the parents who must be in hell watching this go because imagine if one of those babies was your babies and you're sitting there and you are i mean i'm thinking if now if this was god forbid one of my babies and i've watched that documentary you'd be thinking Christ like I just can't get any closure on this like did she or didn't she I think like but then what was weird as well is that baby Zoe she then looked up she said she couldn't remember the baby didn't she and then she'd looked up the parents yes Facebook and stuff yes yes which was weird because she obviously did remember the baby because why would she go and look at them on Facebook and a lot of her no comments I thought were quite interesting yeah look if you're ever arrested the smartest thing to do is to say no comment to everything and actually when they were asking her about like the job and she was answering she should never and that was bad advice as well if you're ever arrested never offer anything even if you're innocent ever you should always say no comment and wait for the trial because they use it against you and you think like oh i'm offering this info and i'm trying to be helpful they're not it's not helpful you're they're trying to fuck you up so just always should have been no comment and then obviously i don't know how it was edited but she's seen offering you know well we do this and this is the process here and then as soon as they start going to the baby she says no comment at that point i imagine she would have been advised to go no comment but she actually should have been advised to go no comment for the whole interview but sorry go ahead no no so on the flip side i'm gonna just throw in all the different thoughts in here but when i watched the initial half first half of it where again i think we are as the viewer led to believe that she's guilty before it then switches you over there i i guess you can't help but put yourself in that position of how you would react which again who the hell knows how they'd react but i guess i just is just honestly what i was thinking i thought way she's sitting there you know and being quite cold about how she's answering things you know in my head i'm thinking oh but i'm a very demonstrative person oh my god if that was me i love and i've been accused of murdering babies i'd probably be quite hysterical i'd probably be like oh my god I did not kill the baby.

1:16:57Anna Williamson:Like, please, this is awful. But see, I wouldn't do that. I would sit there, cold as ice, and say no comment. There you go. Because I'd be thinking, I don't want them to read anything about me and I'm not giving anything away. Because anything I do, they're going to use against me. And also, it wasn't new information to her. So it was not like they'd turned up and accused her of murder and she'd not, it was out of the blue. Heard this before, I see. She'd already been coming. She'd protested it, been through it, dealt with it. Got it, got it, got it, got it. Fair, okay, fair. that timeline is actually quite interesting to remember actually yeah look there we are with it i mean what are your thoughts lufanians we'd love to know if anybody has any insight are we all thinking not guilty i i can't say either way if you were called for the say if she gets an appeal and you're called up to be on the jury i i don't even know if there's a murder to be investigating if what dr shuley and his amazing panel say there's no murders then there's potentially not even a crime but it's just if there is i think i just think that there like there is reasonable doubt if you had all of that medical evidence there's so much of the one guy who by the way i'm not see i don't i don't know if it's come across but i'm not a big fan of that dr darwin evans yeah apparently he said that he's never he's never lost a trial and i'm like if you're going into like winning when it's like people's lives and i'm like yeah i agree i just i don't know i think i think you're right that there that there is and i know that look when someone dies and especially like when a child dies you want to be able to blame someone for that right you want to be like oh this is why and that's why but actually in the case of these babies they well Apparently a lot of it was malpractice, bad care.

1:18:46Anna Williamson:The consultants were meant to be doing rounds on the wards twice a day and they were doing it twice a week. Yeah, I read that. There was an infection in the water. But what if she did? But what if she did? And what if she's not around? You can't go to prison for the rest of your life based on a what if. It has to be an absolute. You have to be able to say absolutely, 100%, 100 % you believe that that person did that crime. And you cannot say, I could not say if I was on that jury, that 100 % beyond any reasonable doubt that I believe she killed those babies. So based on that, and they ended the documentary with that, based on the fact that some, as I said, the fact is nobody saw her do it.

1:19:32Anna Williamson:So based on that fact, it's beyond reasonable doubt. Yeah, I just, I think that, I think, sorry, I just want to go into, you know that a part of the evidence was that in every single every single baby she was the only one on yeah but she was the most senior yes but also that's because they were only putting in those 25 babies that that dowie fella dean does suspicious yeah not the other he had to be evidence that he had the fact that she was on shift for all of those when he picked those suspicious deaths so he could have i'm not saying he did you can manipulate that data if you had like those 61 deaths that he initially had and placed all the nurses on those 61, it would probably be a scattergraph.

1:20:15Yeah.

1:20:16Anna Williamson:But just because he picked those 25... And they were suspicious of her already when he started looking at it. Because of the consultants. Yeah, so it wasn't unbiased when he looked at that. Because he already had that name in his head. Well, I think we are all very interested to see what and if will happen next. I think she deserves an appeal. I think... I think based on that. I think that she deserves a retrial. I think it would be fucking awful because, A, those jury that went through the 10-month trial, they're going to have to go through another really long trial. It was a different jury. It won't be the same.

1:20:48Anna Williamson:Yeah, I know, but like for the parents to go through that. I just don't know how those 12 jury members, I'd love to know what they do for work to get 10 months off work. You can't go to work. No, no, I don't. Well, but they have no choice. Well, unless they might not have been in court every day, but they would have been in court a lot. Well, you just have to. Yeah, but what does your work do? Like, what do you do for money? Yeah. That's a problem. My brother was on a trial for a while. Crazy. And during tax year, which is not ideal for him because it's his job. It's sort of suck it up. You can ask to be removed, but.

1:21:24Yeah, but you can't do five months and then ask to be removed. No, then you're on it. And then say, fucking hell, this is dragging on a bit. I need to pop off now. I know someone that was on a trial for six months.

1:21:32Anna Williamson:Really? And they hoped it would be two weeks. Were they employed? And what did their employer say? Nothing they can do about it. Just have to keep paying them. Just have to get on with it. Because you can reclaim some back, but it's not a lot. It's only like 60 quid a day. They just had to do it. They were on a murder trial and that's where it was. I also think that if she does get a retrial and she's found not guilty, it's like the worst miscarriage of justice we've ever seen. Yeah. And it's, yeah. Well, it's safe to say Netflix has thrown a grenade at the whole Lucy Letby. There's apparently another documentary on her, on ITV or something.

1:22:08I wanted to watch it. Oh, I don't know. I saw some discussion. I think someone said that on our Luana group. Oh, I'm not sure. Yeah.

1:22:17Anna Williamson:Right. There's no way to segue into this without it being clunky, so we're going to just do it. It's time for... It's the Widow of the Week. Right. First up we have... Anonymous. So Cece Lou Freebrush. Sorry, my mouse has got... Cece... Cece Lou Freebrush. Freebrush. I just picked a name. I love it. Cece Lou Freebrush. I mean, why not? Why not, Ims? Hi, Luanna. Please keep me anonymous. We have. Firstly, love you ladies and the podcast so much. I first listened to you in November 23 and then again in January 24. And throughout the first seven months of 24, while planning my wedding and navigating a house move, I binged the entire back catalogue.

1:22:58Anna Williamson:Yes. You are my listener of the week. Peek, go back. My friends will listen to all the episodes. I have a nomination for Weird of the Week. My friend's brother couldn't get a stain out of the lid of his toilet seat. Ew. So he decided, oh, mate, he decided to take it off and put it in his dishwasher. That's a bit icky. His sister dumped it unhinged. Quite a good idea, though. It's disgusting, James. He said it's sparkly clean and looks brand new and plans to do the other toilet seat in the house. Surely, Nintendo for Weird of the Week. That is weird, but I have heard quite a lot of people putting things in the dishwasher.

1:23:32Trainers. Oh, I just put mine in the washing machine.

1:23:35Anna Williamson:I've heard people put trainers in the dishwasher. Really? Horse hats, you can put like your helmet in the dishwasher. I think it's like Crocs and things. Because I think it doesn't like spin it and bang it around like a washing machine. I mean, it's disgusting, but I mean, I wouldn't want that in my house. But you do you, Babs. I don't think I'd want a loose seat in my dishwasher. Bog seat, no thank you. Not for my boys. Alice is next. Hi, Luanna Moe. Thanks for the shits and gigs. I'm Alice from Worcester. My dead nana's name, not my own ofs. Following on from the lady who Googles people's addresses that she heard from the pharmacy queue, I feel I must confess, when I sell an item on Vinted, I also Google where the person lives to see their home.

1:24:16I wonder how my clothes will fit into their new life and I like to see how posh they are. I get quite excited if they have a house name and not a number because these are usually posher houses. and then I wonder why they're purchasing a£2.50 Primark jumper from me when they live in a£1 million house is this weird I love that love it love that

1:24:37Anna Williamson:I think it's a bit weird but I'm quite here for the stalking side of it the dishwashing toilet seat is weirder oh yeah you berated the woman who's looking up people in the bloody pharmacy did I you did said it was very weird she's flits and flop both of you well I think we've all established I'm a hypocrite with my farting around the pool and the plane. I think, you know, imagining who's wearing your clothes. Okay, I will justify this because I feel the pharmacy, I don't know, I feel like that is like taking a step into someone's like medical history, privacy. Because you know that they've got piles or something.

1:25:13Anna Williamson:Exactly, I don't know. I think something about... This is like who's going to be wearing your Jimmy Choo's. Yeah, and the lady's in a position of authority in the pharmacy. I think if you're in your own home and you're doing it, we all do a little cheeky Facebook stalk of an ex, don't we? I think it's sort of in that category. Do you know, I tried to stalk several of my exes recently. They blocked you. I just can't find them anywhere. It's really weird. It's like they don't exist. One of mine's blocked me. Quite a few of them as well. I just don't want to see your success rubbed in their face.

1:25:40I think it might be that. Probably might be that. I actually think it might be that. That's what I'd like to think.

1:25:45Anna Williamson:So we're saying the dishwasher toilet seat. Interesting. Yes. Oh, definitely that's weird. Yeah. Definitely. Right. it's that time of the week where Lou either rants or she has a little bit of a chill what do you fancy I'm happy chilling chilling chill Bill anyone else got a rant not for this week no I'm feeling pretty chill I'll do it very quickly go on listeners can we please stop using chat GPT to write our messages for us please thank you I can tell and it's really annoying and I saw one that had left the prompt thing at the bottom oh babes where it says would you like me to rewrite this in a different tone and I was like really?

1:26:25Anna Williamson:So guys I can tell and you won't make the cut can we please stop doing it we don't need AI I know AI's tone of voice and also they spell things correctly and most of you don't Can I just say you fucking queen just saying you fucking queen we like genuine yeah don't chat we like it from your own voice it might be genuine story but because it's written not in your tone of voice it does ruin it guys it does and if you can't be asked the type. You can dictate into like notes. Anna loves that. Yeah. I'd love a dictation. Or just voice note it in. Well that is it. No use of AI please even though I use chat.

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