"Nearly arrested at Marrakech Airport over a Ryanair suitcase"

20:05Anna Williamson:When was that? Last Friday. Did you go with Sam? No, she didn't come. Did you go on your own? Yeah, I knew people there, though. I knew some of the other people that were in there. So we were invited. Lou couldn't come, but we were invited by our friends at Canis Menno, who had a very nice hospitality box. And I fucking love a bit of take that. Did you love her? It was such a good show. Who else was in the box? I don't know if you'd know them. They were all kind of lots of influencers and sort of other people. But a friend of mine called Attie was in there, which was lovely. So it was really nice.

20:36Anna Williamson:I sort of hung out with her quite a lot. That's good. See, Anna's so good at that shit. I just don't like things like that. Don't like mixing and mingling. I actually don't really like Take That, to be honest with you. You're not my type of Take That fan. I'm not a big Take That fan. Do you know something, though? I mean, I do like Take That. I wouldn't say I'm like a diehard. But, you know, I quite like Take That. I quite like the music. I saw them at the summertime ball at Noble Capital's summertime ball. Can I honestly say, I've been to a lot of gigs. I like to take that. Like I say, you know, and I thought, yeah, you know, I'd really like to enjoy that.

21:03Anna Williamson:That bougie bitch. I quite enjoy it. A little hospitality where you can stand there with your little glass of fizz. This was honestly, and everybody else, I saw so many people chatting about it. They're on three nights in London, London Stadium. This was one of the, probably the best show I've ever seen of a live show ever. And I've taken so many videos for us for inspo. Ask who we think we are with our million pound budget. And do you know what? I've then gone down a bit of a Gary Barlow rabbit hole because they were just Brilliant. Does Robbie Williams take that? Yeah, but he's not in it anymore.

21:33Anna Williamson:Yeah, but he will take that. Because sometimes I get take that and boy zone mixed up. But when I say they put on a show, you didn't even have to like take that to love. Really? It was a circus. All the stagecraft, they had like this bloody animatronic elephant and they just came out and walked all the way along the stadium and they're all standing on top of it singing. They had a full circus. Do you remember Zoe Burkitt from X Factor? Yeah. Zoe Burkett's the lead ringmaster-esque person. And it's like, when I say a supporting cast of fucking loads, hundreds of casts, and it's like, think of the, everyone I know that's been to take that will say the same.

22:13Anna Williamson:I was like, fucking, what a production number. And you move in different, they start in the middle of the whole stadium and they do the first sort of songs there. And they've got water. Where was it on at? The London Stadium, West Ham's ground. And so they do all the songs there, But also what I loved about them is these dudes, what, in their 50s now, right? They looked amazing. And they were, when I say throwing out those shapes and doing all those, they were dancing like they were 20. There was no lazy standing on a stool and making everyone. They were so in it. Because I went to see Phil Collins once and he did have to sit down for most of it.

22:48Anna Williamson:Phil is getting on a bit, to be fair. But honestly, these guys, they were dripping in sweat. but the level of production was just amazing the whole stadium was just buzzing like it was the most incredible show so nostalgic if even if you hated take that you would love it for the all the shit they had the circus all the trapeze artists and everything else it was amazing and then um and then i was following gary barlow afterwards and they were doing lots of schmaltzy you know whatever and he said i remember and he made me think of us actually a little bit girls because he was like i remember he said i just want everyone to know that we never take i've never taken any day for granted in what we do and take that and he said i remember and it was a picture of him on his piano in the middle of the thing at one point and he said i remember doing the working men's clubs you know doing he said and no one would listen to me like i'd literally be playing to like a load of old geezers having a beer and no one would clap or anything goes and i kept saying one day people will come just to see me not just because i'm playing he went i remember our first tour budget we had of take that was 27 000 pounds for an entire tour budget they said and even that was scraping the budget.

23:53Anna Williamson:That's like us. Exactly. And he went, and now he said to have, I mean, this is multi, multi millions of pounds worth. He went to have the budget we now have. We've always said we wanted to put on the biggest show for what we could afford for all our fans. Did it remind you of us? Yeah, it did actually a little bit. And he said, the three of us, he said, we never take any moment for granted like every time we're on stage and you could tell they weren't just ringing it in, taking the money. You know, it was like they were living and breathing every second of it. So take that, absolutely well done bloody loved it it was such an amazing evening and thank you to all of our friends at Canis Mano for having us oh and just a quick call as well also last night as you will know we're award winning over here oh yes I never win awards Celebs Go Dating won Best Entertainment Show at the Broadcast TV Industry Awards so very proud of our team at Celebs Go Dating as well well done thank you very much that's all my news for the week very good right shall we move on to some it's the record the record the record it's the record Wreck-O-Sek-O Right.

24:54Anna Williamson:What are we going for? Shall I go first this week? Yeah. It's a bit of a weird one. But it's kind of a Wreck-O-Sek-O slash shout out slash reminder for those that don't know. NHS eye appointments for kids. Right? You're always going to eye appointments. Well, my kids always... I'm sure this was a Wreck-O recently. Have I done this? Something about an eye appointment. No, no, no. You haven't done this. You did like some boots eye appointment or something. Oh, that's in me bleffy eye. Yeah. Oh, my bleffy eye kicks in. This is something wholly different. Okay, right. Let's go. But the boots bleffy eye treatment, that's also fantastic.

25:26Anna Williamson:This is something else completely entirely different. I might sound really thick here, but I didn't realise until one of my children had really bad eyesight. We're in the opticians a lot because of it. About the free NHS appointments you get for kids. Every child gets free. Oh, I didn't know that. This is it, Lou. And I don't know if it's that known or widely talked about. They probably don't want it to be that known. No, but the provision is there. Every single child gets free eye tests under the age of 18. And you can go to any opticians, private opticians. No. Any opticians. We go to private opticians, but you can go to any opticians.

26:07Anna Williamson:And they bill the NHS instead of you. Yeah. And you go in and every child gets free eye tests. And it's only since my child, and my little Enzo wears glasses, and so I have to do a lot of checking in with him. He's got an astigmatism and all kinds of things and bits and pieces and these glasses. So obviously I do pay a little bit on top for the lenses and the, sorry, for the frames he wants. But every single eye test I take him to, and Elle now as well, and I think so many parents don't realise this because it can be really costly, but the frames and also they're not, you know, like when we were kids as well, like you go in and it's glasses.

26:40Anna Williamson:But they've got such lovely frames now. Like, I just wanted to sort of flag it as my recoseco that if you haven't taken your kid for an eye test, take your kid for an eye test because it's on the NHS. You're entitled to it for your children. I don't have taken mine. Yeah, and I took Elle recently because I hadn't taken hers just to get her eyes done. The eye tests are free. The frames are free. The lenses are free within a certain amount as well. So NHS eye appointments for your kids. Go and do one if you haven't. That's my reco. Okay, have I done this reco before? Voltarol. No. Voltarol. So if you're going out, we're coming into wedding season.

27:19We've got a lot of events. People are going out more now. Slather your feet in Voltrol. I thought they were a bum suppository. No, it's like ibuprofen gel. Yeah. Slather your feet in that and then put them in your heels and your feet will not hurt. Really? Yeah. Or if you've put your heels on without putting the Voltrol on, then they start to ache. Take your shoes off. Slather your feet in Voltrol and put your shoes back on. Genius tip. Did you come out with this? Natalie told me about it. Nanny Nat. Well, let me tell you this later. I tried it at her wedding. Does it? Yeah, because my feet were hurting at her wedding.

27:55So I'd had heels on all day. She said to me, go and put Voltrol all over your feet. She told mum and then literally did Voltrol on my feet and just put the shoes back on. All night I lasted. Well, obviously trying that. Great record. It's a very, very good tip.

28:10Anna Williamson:You've gone very medical today. Eye tests, Voltrol, Imogen. Mine is not medical. It's a watch. It's not a watch. It's a pod. It is a pod. It's one episode of a pod. It's either a watch pod or a crisp with you. I like that. That's basically my whole personality, yeah. It's a podcast. It's one episode of a podcast in particular that I recently listened to was, Jay Shetty has a podcast called On Purpose. And recently, a few weeks ago, he had on a lady called Emily Kaiser, who we've actually spoken about before. I've heard that. She's the influencer, TikToker, who really sadly her little boy Trey died.

28:47Anna Williamson:Yeah, that's it. He drowned. When she was out. And this is like the first time she's really spoken about it publicly. And I think we covered it on Luana ages ago. Yeah, we did. We talked about it. It was a big thing. Can you tell me? Sorry, how did he drown? He drowned in the pool. She went out and her husband was looking up. she had like a five week old baby and her husband was tending to the baby and at the time just like didn't have eyes on the three-year-old and then found the three-year-old and he drowned in the pool that's right how tragic and it was awful terrible obviously she got quite troubled yeah and they all they got a lot of like hatred of like you should have done this compassion people for christ's sake they lost a child and this is the first time she's spoken about it and i just thought i listened to it yeah go on and her composure really and like the she was just so articulate and so like i think she's only like 27 but she's so like beyond her years in like how she thought about it all and it was all just like it was very moving uh but and with jay was she yeah just um just a really interesting uh chat about it all and how she's dealt with her grief and Because she was quite public, wasn't she, with what she put online?

30:11And then it was a bit like, well, what content is she going to put now? Because she basically did like Days in a Life and stuff like that. And with the kids. And now it was just like one's obviously died. And how do you navigate that? Because it was her income as well. So how would she then navigate that? I don't follow her, so I don't know what she puts up. But I would like to listen to that. So thank you. I enjoy your pod recos.

30:31Anna Williamson:It was really interesting. And I just thought she, like, what a woman, really. and she like spoke about it was it was really honest and she like spoke about how it had affected her relationship um and stuff like that but they've come out stronger i think and they're still together and stuff because there was obviously he was looking after the kids so there was like a whole thing around that and people commenting and people just with like the public lens on it as well exactly and this is this is the problem with the public lens everyone's got opinions you know and i think it's so to lose a child is just the worst thing i think that can happen to anybody yeah and then for people to then opinionate we can all think about what we would do in that moment but my god no no one ever is she still content creating then yeah she is yeah she's she's come back has she pivoted in any way or i don't actually follow her um emily kaiser yeah okay but check her out I'm not sure but but yeah so Jay Shetty the what was the name of his it was On Purpose On Purpose that's right with Emily Kaiser great okay great reco well that is the Reco Seco for this week it's a Reco Seco no reco treco crumbles on my lap sorry it's a dog dog playpen right messages let's smash in shall we so first up message from anonymous so Derry Hair very good oh that is good hi girls love your work why thank you um i had to write in after the train etiquette piece on the uh in the other mondays episode that was you wasn't it loranting around that yeah i think you said people are peasants i think they're peasants was just how we we proceed that i'm english and i've lived in western australia for the past 20 years last month i went back to the uk with one of my aussie besties no kids no husbands the best 10 days ever showcasing our beautiful country, catching up with family and friends and seeing Harry Styles at Wembley.

32:27Anna Williamson:Oh, you went, didn't you, Em? I did, yeah. Was it amazing? Yeah, it was amazing. I don't like Harry Styles. Okay, whatever. But again, everyone that went to Harry Styles and Take That all went, what an amazing show. But, she says, I was left feeling sick to my stomach after a train journey from Edinburgh. Not only did three pissed-up prepubescent teenagers hop on the train drinking bottles of hooch, I didn't think that stuff still existed. I'd quite like one, actually. And snorting poppers, classy, that was the light entertainment. But the three guys on the table next to us took off their shoes, oh, please, took off their shoes, picked their toenails off like a little manicure.

33:06Anna Williamson:Like a little mass toenail. And then displayed them on the spare seat at their table, like a little collection. It was vile. They looked like normal people. And they were going all the way to London. The whole thing is fucking rancid. There needs to be some foot rules on these trains. Otherwise, the trip was amazing. Love you, girls. You make me feel like I'm at home, even when I'm a gazillion miles away. Well, thank you for that. See, 20 years in Australia, she's not experienced that. Three weeks back in London. Train foulness. Vile.

33:41Another message from Anon. So, Annette Bull. Oh, that's a good one. She's so happy with herself. Dear Luanamo, keeping an on due to confidentiality requirements. Oh, go on. After listening to your pod about parents who refuse to pay child maintenance being refused World Cup football tickets, it's prompted me to write, as I've nowhere else to vent, I'm a foster carer and there is something that frustrates me enormously that I never hear anyone talk about. Why is it that when parents fail so badly that their child has to be taken into care, They are under no obligation whatsoever to contribute financially towards that child's upbringing.

34:22That's really interesting. I never thought about this. If they're working part or full time, why aren't they expected to pay anything towards their child's keep? There are over 50 ,000 children. Oh my God, that's huge. In care across the UK. Taxpayers fund their care. Foster carers dedicate their lives looking after them. Yet these parents are free to carry on exactly as before. They can keep their jobs, go on holidays, have nights out, have more children, drink, take drugs or simply spend their money however they choose, whilst contributing fuck all toward the child they have brought into the world.

34:55I find that completely backwards. If a relationship breaks down and one parent raises the child, the other parent is rightly expected to pay child maintenance. The legal and moral responsibility doesn't disappear because that relationship ends. So why does it seem to disappear when the state has to step in because the parents couldn't or wouldn't provide a safe home? If anything, surely that responsibility should be even greater, not less. We're constantly told there's no money. Local authorities under huge financial pressure, foster carers are desperately needed and children's services are stretched to beyond breaking point.

35:30Yet we appear to have created a system where parents can completely abdicate responsibility emotionally and financially while the taxpayer picks up the entire bill. And how can that possibly be justified? As a carer, I work my ass off to provide the child with a happy, safe, loving environment. And I'm paying out of my own pocket for horse riding lessons, holidays, and generally trying to keep up a happy, normal life because the local authority does not cover this. and more importantly the child is being refused access to the mental health services they require because there are no funds there's no money while i see parents on social media out getting pissed night after night it really boils my piss i'd love to hear your thoughts on this because from where i'm standing it seems like an issue that nobody is prepared to ask difficult questions about listening in the car to keep me sane in this crazy world firstly yeah and also well done for the work

36:23Anna Williamson:that you are doing with children. And it's really interesting. I don't know why recently this is sort of foster carers have been in my ether a little bit recently. I've been dealing with some foster carers, funnily enough, just with some other work that I'm doing. And I hadn't considered this point of view. And to your point, I also know that, yeah, CAMHS, the mental health services for children and children services are at breaking point. The threshold is ridiculous to get any form of intervention. And carers are, I mean, it is a career for foster carers, but also it is a vocation as well. And to your point there, I know every foster carer I know or carers are putting their own money, their own hand in their pocket to provide not only stuff, you know, and a roof, but also it's the emotional support.

37:06Anna Williamson:And I know we've had recently with little baby Preston in the news, that poor little baby boy. I am so, as a mother myself, but I think as everybody, you know, I'd like to think the majority of people, you know, we care about children. I am so passionate. And as a child line counsellor as well, and have been for many, many years. Children are the innocent party in all of this. And I'm sick and tired, quite honestly, of grown-ups fucking it up for them. You know, at the end of the day, children are completely vulnerable and dependent on their... Yeah, totally dependent. Totally dependent on the wider world.

37:44Anna Williamson:And it is pot bloody luck where you're born into, how you're born into. Now, I'm not taking away from the fact that many parents, there are some parents who will have difficulties. A lot of those difficulties aren't their fault. Some of them are, but I do think, as you say, the point we made about Argentina bringing in, you know, dudes that aren't paying the child support, aren't going into the football. There has to be some level of accountability, and I'm sick and tired of this accountability just being completely negated. There has to be some level of responsibility. But do you think a lot of the kids that are in foster care are there because the parents can't afford to support children anyway?

38:16Anna Williamson:Some are, yeah. Some are completely not able, but I think the some that... They are working. But I think it does depend. And actually, so I... Maybe it should be like means test. Yeah, that's what I'd like to say. I think on a case by case, but of course, I'm not... This is before I get massively trolled. If you're in any kind of employment, something should be deducted. But also I know, so an example here. So before I get trolled about this, my parents are like, of course, of course, let's use our common sense here. We're not talking about parents who are completely incapacitated or have addiction problems or are in abusive relationships or they can't work.

38:48Anna Williamson:Of course, we know that we get that. okay and if they can't physically financially support absolutely fair enough but there are a big proportion that can and i know anecdotally as well and i'd be careful i don't speak out of turn here some of my friends um around sort of just people i know i know uh who work in the care sector work in uh children's services work in social you know and all of those um who work with parents um of children who have been taken away i do actually have firsthand knowledge of this a lot of these parents are are yes um functioning in normal society as in they have jobs they have they have a lot of additional needs but there are reasons why their children have been taken away from them perhaps they let's just say they've been mixing with people that like pedos and stuff there we go exactly because if you like welcome you know like some women they'll meet someone and then they've got like a record for like child yeah like kiddie fiddling or something then they will then what baffles me is when these women choose that person over their kids but it really does happen well i i know first it really does happen i am i've been having conversation with someone about this recently taken away because you can't be near that no and i know this firsthand and experience that's happened recently some children that are consistently having to be removed because of the choices of one of the parent to be associated with yeah people that are on a sex register or abusive, whatever.

40:11Anna Williamson:And to that point, those children are now all in full-time foster care being provided by the state. And those parents have got jobs. They are working. Both parents are doing jobs. And they are not contributing. And I think to this lady's point here, I don't think that's right. I don't think that's right because you're making some terrible choices. Yeah, the kids suffer. The children are suffering anyway. And this is what makes me really sad actually about it. There's quite a few high-profile people as well that our kids have been taken into care. There are. But what makes me really sad, I was speaking to this friend of mine who is actively involved in this work at the moment and she said to me, she went, at the end of the day, these kids, they just want their mum.

40:50Anna Williamson:And I said, and she went, that's not, she went, that is fact. From her anecdote, she went, it doesn't matter how much support they get given. They just want to know that their mum and their dad give a fuck. Whether that is, and I think even if that is saying, we can't look after you because of our circumstances, but we are even paying for something. At least it shows that child that the parents do care in some way. They haven't just absconded the responsibility. But maybe they don't do it because then the parents might still lay some kind of claim over the child so it's better for just all ties to be cut for that child.

41:24Like safety point of view, maybe if you were paying, you'd be like, well, you're taking my money. Well, they often have visitation.

41:30Anna Williamson:I mean, they can often have access. There are so many different ways of the care system working. And at the end of the day, no one wants to remove a parent and a child from each other, you know, unless there are absolute reasons for it. I know. And I just want to shout out. I know so many people in the care sector, people working children's services. I know that how hard you all work, how shitty you are all paid. And I feel so passionately about it because I've seen it firsthand in some of my friends that do this work. And it is a vocation, actually. They are being they are being stretched beyond stretched.

41:59Anna Williamson:They don't get the supervision, I don't believe, and the support to actually support them emotionally with the caseloads that they've got. And something does have to give. It is a wider problem. So I just want to say thank you for all your work. I know so many care workers listen to this. Something does need to give. And I think this isn't parent bashing. It is. And it's not parent bashing at all. I also appreciate people have problems. But something does have to give. We can't just go, okay, let's shove it on and overload his services already and people that are doing their best and there's not enough support out there.

42:27Anna Williamson:There just isn't. and what's happening 50 000 children are struggling basically crazy and that's not okay that's not so many and then when they get to 18 what happens well then that's that's a whole new ball game that we get so when i worked at child line that's another that is a problem you try and do an agency referral after that but it's like they're just you go in then you're adult now you go into the mental health services which are already stretched as well and i think i feel and i'm being really passionate about this and i just feel so strongly that everyone just yeah parenting's fucking hard and I get people have problems but at the same time children are children and they cannot look after themselves people just shouldn't have them though I mean I know people that have had kids and I just think why have you had those kids like you just shouldn't have had those kids like and it's it's just it's wrong or people that have had like I know one of my friends has adopted a baby and it's like the fourth baby that's been taken off this fucking woman I mean at what point do you get to that?

43:25I mean, if that was me, I'd sterilise the mother. I would. Well, I think, haven't they? Because to have four babies taken off you, you've shown time and time and time again that you are not able to have responsible safe sex. You are not able to be a responsible mother and you are not allowed to be a mother. So therefore, why even allow that person who clearly is not able to make good decisions, even allow them that decision? But then you get into this kind of like Nazi state. Well, human rights. But then at the end of the day, I just think we're too lapsed with human rights. I do. I actually think we're way too lapsed with human rights.

43:59Anna Williamson:But I always do. And I probably because it's, you know, people might disagree with me. I don't really care to be honest because I feel so strongly that at the end of the day, an innocent defenseless party is the one that always ends up suffering. And if a child who cannot look after themselves, a baby cannot feed themselves, you know, they have to rely on a caregiver. And that is fucking potluck. And I think it's, I think there's a real issue around that actually. And I just, yeah, I don't know what I'm trying to say, but it's a great story and I think well done for all your hard work yeah well done right next up message from Anonymous so Mavis disclaimer a VOM warning brilliant it's too early brace yourselves right my then boyfriend and I were guests at a family wedding we got smashed to say the least we were staying at a cottage with six other couples from the wedding party paid for by the bride and groom and we missed the first dance the cake cutting and both of us got put to bed at 9pm this is not the most mortifying part this reminds me of having to be put to bed at your Bridgerton party got so pissed yeah like 10 o 'clock that was it she was in bed it was 1am it wasn't it was it was yeah it was actually 1am I promise you it was but still after climbing the most ridiculous set of old cottagey ladders to get into the loft room when we were sleeping we both felt a little unwell thanks to the kind person who put us to bed still to this day I have no idea who it was there was a sick bowl placed perfectly next to the bed he was chucking his guts up into said sick bowl while I was being the good girlfriend and holding it and rubbing his back.

45:26Anna Williamson:Until I felt the urge to be sick as well. Oh, it's like contagious. It's so bad. This is where the story takes a tumble. I think to myself, I can't be sick in the bowl as well because two heads won't fit in one bowl. I look around and I see the window wide open. I lean over, still holding the sick bowl for him, and I chuck my guts up out of the window, mid-window vom. I lose my balance and I stack it onto the floor. and yeah you guessed it that sick bowl spills all over me oh god i would have been so oh i hate the sick bowl empty not having too many sober brain cells i just put my hair in a hair turban and i go to bed six hours later a very unwell me wakes up stinking of sick so i crawl to the I had the most mortifying shower of my life.

46:20Anna Williamson:I go downstairs to the morning after wedding breakfast the following morning, acting normal and as if I'd had a very uneventful night. Until I walked out of the cottage and saw the state of the cottage, Cotswold stone walls plastered in my sick. Oh no! You can see the bottles of Chateau Nerve de Pap. This is a lovely red wine. I had drank the previous night all the way down the front of this beautiful cottage. That shit's going to stay in that Cotswold Stone as well. Worse yet, the whole wedding party saw and it was the hot topic of discussion at breakfast that morning. I don't know what I was more embarrassed by.

46:59Anna Williamson:The fact that I'd slept with sick in my hair or the full wedding party that saw. I've never walked with such shame. But now I think back, fuck it. What a story. Thank you, Luanimo, for the pod. you give us girls a space to share stories without judgment. You're welcome. You get me through my very long commutes to Belgium, to the UK. Belgium to the UK? That's a commute and a half. Isn't it? Keep me mildly anonymous. Call me Mavis, a Brit currently residing in Belgium. Wow, thank you, Mavis. Love it. Remember, if you want to get in touch, you can email us at Luana at everythingluana.com. You can also drop us a WhatsApp on 075-215-646-646-646.

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48:33This is actually brilliant. So basically it's this vigilante guy and he's going around Mexico and people are trying to steal like motorbikes and he stops them and he does this kind of like a citizen's arrest and he duct ties them to a lamppost and he puts the words ratero written on their heads which means thief and then he writes it on their head, ducts at them and then more often than not he leaves the bike they were trying to steal like in front of them and they're just there like totally tied up to the lamppost

49:03Anna Williamson:I'm curious to know though how like he must be a strong old dude. Yeah, and he also draws moustaches and cat whiskers on them, which I liked even more. Fantastic. So the Sun reported at least one man was left bloodied and bruised allegedly after his interaction. So there's obviously, he sees them robbing the bike, he stops them, there's a bit of a kerfuffle. Gives them a deck. He gets one over on them and duct tapes them to a lamppost, decorates their face with a sharpie and leaves them there. It's like a stag dude gone wrong. But the local police, yeah, has said that they are treating the duct tape men as victims in the situation.

49:39I mean, that's quite woke for Mexico. Five cases have been reported and all the men were cut down from the lamppost and tutored for their injuries. Oh, so they were given a bit of a decade? And he also left signs above their heads detailing the allegations. So he'll be like, it was this day, they were stealing this. And he does a little statement, sticks that up, duct tapes them, Ruffs them up a bit. And then legs it. And then legs it. Police have identified two vehicles they believe are connected to the attacks, but no suspects have been named. Now that he has been nicknamed, the vigilante has been called the Batman of Lagos de Moreno, which translates to Mexican Batman.

50:24Now this also, now vigilante justice, and I do think this is quite a good talking point, right? It is actually. Because the problem is, and clearly it's, I just thought it's mainly like a, probably like a bit more of a UK and an American thing, but clearly it's worldwide. We're now in Mexico here. Oh, for sure. And it's not the first time that vigilante justice has been issued because recently a group of women nearby, also in Mexico in a nearby village, they're carrying assault rifles to protect themselves from the Jalisco new generation cartel. This goes on everywhere, Lou. They've even got a homemade tank and they've set up roadblocks in an attempt to stop the gunmen who are said to be responsible for a rise in homicides and local murders locally.

51:05Now, this sang to me because, you know, like in hindsight, I wish that when that drone dickhead had come to my house, I wish I would have cable tied him. And I kept saying to people, I wish, and I actually had in my mind that I wanted to cable tie him to a lamp post. What I wanted to do was cable tie him up, put him in my little tractor get his camera equipment. I've thought a lot about this. And I would have driven him down to my lake, thrown his camera, not thrown him in the lake. I would have thrown his camera. I was with you up until that point. And the little SD cards in my lake. Yeah, that would have been fine.

51:39Let him watch that. Then I would have driven him back up out of my gates and there's a lovely lamppost right opposite the house. And I did want to tie him up to that and strip him naked and leave him there. That's what I wanted to do. Is that legal? well no but I would have done it well it's tip for tap isn't it this is the point right I remember years ago like 2011 2012 my laptop got stolen from my car on my driveway and the police did fuck all I tracked down that laptop did you? yeah and I got my laptop back there was a news article about it and everything how did you get it back? because I called every porn shop in St Albans and they'd sold it.

52:25But you didn't go around and nick it off the person who knicked it from you, though? No, and I got my laptop back. But that's what you have to do. You have to be your own advocate in life. And I just think that the law is too wishy-washy. We saw that recently, didn't we, like in the UK. Like Henry Novak, that poor 18-year-old boy, and the police now, they're so scared. And I'm not, do you know what? I'm not blaming individuals within the police, but we have this culture of everyone's so scared to actually do their job within that industry. Or fear of repercussions. And he'd been stabbed, he was dying.

53:02And you've got the perpetrator, the Sikh guy, who had just stabbed him, going on about his got some fucking minor injury, knowing that he'd stabbed him and he was dying and the police are siding with him. Why did they side with him? Because he said it was a racial attack. Yeah. And it's so wrong. and it's damaging the reputation of the police. It's damaging the faith, the society's faith in the police and what they can do. And what that leads to is people taking the law into their own hands. Good chat.

53:33Anna Williamson:Right, heads up, guys. Next week, we are going to do a pod chat about Sweet Bobby and Maternal Instinct. Now, Lou did the reco for Sweet Bobby. Emma and I did the reco for Maternal Instinct a couple of weeks ago. Oh, I've watched it now. Have you? Ready for our chat. Hold it, hold it. So we have both, a bit like we did our free birthing chat, if you want to join in with, or just know what we're talking about basically, you'll still enjoy it if you haven't listened to it or watched it. But go and watch and listen to those. So Sweet Bobby on Netflix, Amateur Instinct on Netflix, and their podcast as well.

54:04Anna Williamson:So yeah, join us for that when we do a little deep dive next week. Right, it's now time for... It's the Widow of the Week! Right. we've got a non so mrs beaver hi luana please keep me a non although if you know me you'll probably know exactly who this is oh oh i think i need to nominate myself for weird of the week because i've only recently discovered that something i've done my whole life is completely absolutely bizarre i eat weetabix with butter. I know this. Who is it? I don't know who it is but butter and jam is a thing on Weetabix. Not with milk, not toasted. I literally spread butter on a dry Is it you and me?

54:53No it's not me. On a dry Weetabix and eat it. I've been eating it like this since I was little. No one's ever, never once questioned it. That wasn't until my partner told me it was weird. I honestly thought he was just being a bit dramatic. So I mentioned it to people at work. Only for every single one of them to agree with him. Then I asked my friends, hoping someone would be on my side. But they all looked at me like I admitted to eating cereal with gravy. I genuinely don't know what the problem is. I can't stand soggy Weetabix, so butter just makes perfect sense. Please settle this. Am I worthy of the weirdo of the week?

55:25Or are there any other butter on Weetabix eaters out there who have been living in blissful ignorance like me? Lots of love. Proud buttered Weetabix defender.

55:35Anna Williamson:I actually used to do this. Is it you? No, it's not. But I did Someone introduced me to my teens and it was, because it's just like a, it's just a wheaty, crunchy rye veta. Yeah, and butter and jam. And I actually did do it for quite a while and it's really tasty. Don't knock it till you tried it. Do we think we know who this is? Do you know who it is? No, I don't think we do. I think they're just saying that if you hear this. Oh, you'll know if you know. Well, let's see if Kirsty's weirder. She said, my weird of the week, I love, and I mean, oh, for God's sake. We're in straight away, you're my winner.

56:08Anna Williamson:And I mean love to suck on the pepperoni condom. Oh, the... Like on a pepperoni. You know they come. Pepperoni one, yeah. Getting all of those meat juices out makes my mouth water. They need to keep me anonymous. I accept you. I am. I'm Kirsty from Barlic. Yeah, the little Johnny, meaty Johnny. Oh, two culinary weirdos here. Who's your winner, girls? Well, I think it's, for me, it's the condom. I've done the condom I thought you had I've done it too back in my Weetabix eating era I have done it and I haven't tried the Weetabix I think you're going to try it now though aren't you so my winner is the pepper army eating the condom just because it's a bit ranker yeah that's where I'm going that's the weirdo of the week guys great episode loved it hope you've enjoyed it let us know what you think share this episode with a friend as well let us know any thoughts you've got anything we've talked about we love your feedback we're going back on Thursday we're totally extra that's your episodes we need our Lofania and community to get involved like we seriously need you so are you listening get your emails in pronto with all of your guff all your anecdotes your stories your pedipollies anything you want to share with us to Luana at everythingluana.com you can whatsapp us a voice note or whatever you want The number is 07521564640.

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