'We just would like a bit more context around Karen shoving the glass up her a***'

28 Jul 2025 · 59 min · 26 chapters

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In short

The hosts trade stories about “me days,” burnout and summer wind-down, then pivot into listener segments. Major discussion includes a hypochondria/tetanus panic after a rusty nail injury while on holiday, a slang “grass” (informant) listener fact, and a long advice segment about a woman whose boyfriend won’t say “I love you” and whether to wait for commitment. Later, they tell a disastrous wasp-nest removal story involving hairspray and a shed fire, and read news about three men receiving suspended sentences after livestreaming/filming sexual abuse of a 15-year-old.

Guests/backgrounds

No named guests. Main voices are the hosts (Luana, Anna, Mo/Imo, Becca, Emma, etc.). Guest-like content comes from listeners: “Doris” (child protection social worker) and “Maureen” (relationship advice letter).

Key claims

Words aren’t the only measure of love; actions and shared life goals matter. In your 30s, waiting too long can cost fertility time. Suspended sentences still come with conditions.

Notable examples

rusty nail/tetanus confusion; “grass” rhyming slang; Karen allegedly shoving glass up her anus (requested more context); wasp nest removed with hairspray leading to shed destruction; Rivington teen abuse case with suspended sentences.

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Chapters

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Anna Reflects on Turning 44

0:21 to 1:40

Anna shares her thoughts on turning 44 and how she feels about aging.

“Anna, your birthday has been and it's gone.”

Importance of 'Me Days'

1:40 to 3:54

The hosts discuss the value of taking personal time and 'me days'.

“We've got to close the curtain behind us.”

A Day of No Obligation

3:54 to 5:41

Anna describes her ideal day without obligations, enjoying brunch and relaxation.

“I just only do Luanna and a bit of content in my dressing gown.”

Work-Life Balance Challenges

5:41 to 6:38

Discussion on the challenges of balancing work and personal life, especially for freelancers.

“But stress and burnout is at an all-time high.”

Planning for Summer Holidays

6:38 to 8:00

The hosts talk about their plans for summer holidays and the joys of downtime.

“Because my 10th wedding anniversary, which we celebrated whilst on La Yacht, Andrew said as a gift, like, what am I going to get you?”

Festival Experiences and Expectations

8:00 to 10:44

Anna shares her family's festival experiences and thoughts on safety.

“No, I've gone direct now through some different contacts.”

Anna's Tetanus Incident

10:44 to 14:00

A humorous tale of Anna's run-in with a rusty nail and the subsequent first aid experience.

“I was just sending these to Lucy That's cute Let's get on shall we Oh, can I just say that?”

Discussing Tetanus and Medical Concerns

14:00 to 16:30

Learn about the importance of tetanus shots and personal health issues.

“Can I just say, guys, there it is, GCSE.”

The Meaning of 'Grass' in British Slang

16:30 to 19:10

Discover the origin and implications of the term 'grass' in British culture.

“Did you know why someone is called a grass?”

Personal Stories of Grassing

19:10 to 21:40

Engage with stories about personal experiences with informing on others.

“I'm just trying to think if I've grassed on someone.”
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Traffic Cone Wars

21:40 to 22:40

Hear about the humorous conflict over missing traffic cones.

“Yeah, fuck off my cone would be quite good.”

Listener Message: Relationship Dilemmas

22:40 to 27:00

Listen to a listener's struggles with love and relationship expectations.

“I just drive around in my car and I just stop.”

Advice on Love and Communication

27:00 to 28:00

Gain insights on navigating love, communication, and emotional baggage in relationships.

“I think give it a year and then if he hasn't fallen in love with you after a year.”

Understanding Love and Relationship Goals

28:00 to 34:31

Explore the nuances of love beyond just words and the importance of communication in relationships.

“Anyone can say I love you and not actually mean it.”

The Reality of Women's Fertility

34:31 to 35:10

Discusses the biological realities women face regarding fertility and the urgency of relationship decisions.

A Cautionary Tale: The Wasp Nest Disaster

35:10 to 37:29

A humorous recount of a friend's failed DIY attempt to remove a wasp nest that ended in disaster.

“Okay, men are luckier than women and they just can reproduce that spunk over and over again.”

Comedic Antics and Hairspray Stories

42:00 to 43:03

The hosts share humorous anecdotes about household mishaps and renovation ideas.

“a thoroughly singed tree in his garden, nowhere to store his motorbike and to compound his misery, a mob of furious wasps nesting somewhere nearby.”

Trigger Warning for Distressing News

43:03 to 43:31

The hosts prepare listeners for a serious news segment involving sexual abuse.

“So let's see what Imo has popped in today's episode.”

Shocking Case of Sexual Abuse

43:31 to 47:40

A disturbing report on a court case involving the abuse of a teenage girl and the leniency of sentences.

“This happened at night in Rivington, which is a popular beauty spot in the West Pennine Moors near Bolton.”

Discussion on Reporting Abuse

47:40 to 48:00

The hosts emphasize the importance of reporting abuse despite discouraging outcomes.

“Sorry, I keep looking at my phone because my daughter is at the gallops with people.”

ASOS's Controversial Return Policy

48:00 to 49:25

The conversation shifts to ASOS banning customers for excessive returns and its implications.

“Sad times had to work instead of go going.”

Environmental Impact of Returns

49:25 to 51:24

Hosts discuss the environmental consequences of clothing returns and the need for mindful shopping.

“and said they had no choice but to return the garments says the brand sizing was so unpredictable.”

Weirdo of the Week Stories

51:24 to 56:00

Listeners share quirky behaviors and oddities, leading to light-hearted discussions.

“from the consumer's point of view, from the consumer's point.”

Conversations About Gender Perspectives

56:00 to 56:32

Exploring the differences in experiences between boys and girls through light-hearted conversations.

“But if it's just resting in the pants it's not going to be dandy.”

Upcoming Personal Events and Plans

56:33 to 57:13

Discussion about personal plans including traveling for a wedding anniversary and home renovations.

“Because currently today I'm flying to Spain to go shopping for my 10th wedding anniversary present.”

Seasonal Preferences and Weather

57:14 to 57:46

Debate about the pros and cons of different seasons and personal weather preferences.

“I don't like wearing five pairs of trousers.”
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Transcript

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0:02This is a Global Player original podcast.

0:05Anna Williamson:Be warned. Oh, there you go. Accompanied by the Zissman's guts. Be warned, it's Luana. This podcast contains a very, very burpy Zissman, but honest upfront opinions, rants, bants, general explicit content, but you know you love it and we love you. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Oh, that was high. Anna, your birthday has been and it's gone. It has. It's been and gone. I don't have the cake for you. It's fine. I don't need the cake. I ate all the cake a few weeks ago on the yacht. Yeah. But yes, I have had my birthday. I have kept it, you know, just nice and chill. To be honest, Lou, I just like to, you know, flow around on my birthday.

0:45Anna Williamson:Grow old gracefully. I guess how old I am now, though. When you have that face left? Two years. You're 43. No, I'm not. Are you 44? Yes. Isn't that awful? Oh, you actually look really good for 44. Thanks, mate. I'll take it. You really do. Thank you. You don't look 44, but does anyone really look 44? Oh, yeah. You do look really good. Well, you're kind. I would put it down to a very good skincare routine and jeans. I don't think you need your upper face lifting. You've got nice wide eyes, a smooth forehead. It's just the jowls. The jowls, isn't it? And the chin. The little jowly jowls. You could just get a little half, a little lift up.

1:23Anna Williamson:A little Cinderella lift. Oh, I've just farted. It stinks. Oh, I just farted. A little Cinderella lift. No, I actually, I think I said this the other week. You look brilliant. Thank you, honey. Gorgeous. I surprised myself because I didn't genuinely forgot. I've now reached that age where I forgot how old I was. I thought I was 43. Sorry, the curtain's not closed, Bex. Oh, no, it's fine. Bex will just close it. Close it. We're going to keep all this guff in. Smoke some mirrors. We've got to close the curtain behind us. But yeah, all I've wanted this year for my birthday is... All I want. Well, it was the first day that the kids broke up from school.

1:57Anna Williamson:So I sort of felt like doing something with the shits. Yeah. You know, being a good mum. Although, can I talk to you about probably, you know, I'm a simple creature. Okay. And I like simple pleasures. Yeah. I had the best, and my friend Al called it this, day of no obligation the other day. You know, I like my little me days. My little me time. She has a lot of me time. I love my me time. And then she'll pretend that she's busy and she's not. I am busy. I'm busy having me time. Yeah, but. Never apologise for me, actually. Just because you're free doesn't mean you're available. Wow. Exactly. See, I wish I was like that.

2:30You have to do that, Lou. But I actually never do this. I literally schedule every day. I don't have a free day.

2:36Anna Williamson:But do you like doing that? Do you like scheduling stuff? Well, no, it just happens. Because we were talking about something for work the other day, and I was like, no, I actually don't have any free days. Why don't you schedule a day? It's not that I've scheduled a me day and I'm unavailable. I literally don't have a day to give. But what are you doing? What do you schedule in then? Well, to be fair, I say that. I do do a lot of horse things. Yeah, so what are you scheduling in then? Work? But I have like, well, no. So you're scheduling in fun stuff. I'm scheduling work. Summer, babes. I'm off.

3:05I'm off now. So it's me time. Well, I do like a lot of horse things. Yes, so that is your me time. That's your version of me time. Yeah, that is my me time, but I don't spar and shit.

3:17Anna Williamson:No, I don't spar and shit all the time. Ain't got time for that. No, my me time is exactly as you say, Emma. I've got a good turn though. You have. I just like to spend a day of no obligation which is where I literally just do whatever I want to do it's just like free association thinking go with the flow I love it oh I do that I go and get my nails done and I ride my horse that's a day of no obligation but I'm not doing nothing well that's it oh I thought you meant you're just sitting no you do whatever you feel like in the moment oh I do that every day then well there you go you have a permanent me day I think I do you do I've just had a moment of realisation.

3:54You do.

3:54Anna Williamson:I do a lot of work. I have like eight jobs. So I have a lot of work. I don't. Obviously looking after my kiddies. But that's by my design. And I, you know, I design. I just only do Luanna and a bit of content in my dressing gown. So then that's a good system for you, your dressing gown. But my day, I'll tell you about my day. I got up. I got up. Kids have been dealt with. Al had dealt with them. They'd gone to school. And I was like, what should I do today? I mean, my kids have been off for a month now. They have. And I just wafted around. And I thought, what am I going to do? So I went for brunch by myself.

4:26Anna Williamson:There was a really nice new brunch place. Let me tell you now, guys, there was nothing more fun and liberating than taking a magazine and just going into place for brunch. I had my little Juevas Francheros. I love my little Mexican eggs. Oh, I love, I don't like the eggs, but I like all the guff, the Mexican guff. All the guacamole and the chorizo. Yes. And I sat there, I had my little mocha, and I sat there, I just read my little Maggie, which was lovely. again can just do it my own time then i walked on i thought what do i fancy now you know what i fancy getting my nails done oh but then just popped into the nail bar wait didn't mind waiting because i was on my day of no obligation which means that no one is clock watching me because i spend my life 99 of the time yeah having to watch a clock being in a routine and i knew i had this six hours of just whatever honestly it's freeing did my nails yeah then i got home yeah right al had done a bit of batch cooking had cooked a lovely little curry so that's all done I mean can I just say there is nothing more pleasurable than a day off now I do know I'm very fortunate but I do make sure that because I'm a freelancer and I have been for 25 years I often don't take that time off because I do think you never know always chasing that next dream but I do make a point now and I always prattle on about it a me day is cathartic honestly it felt fucking brilliant well I actually thought that when you meant like me days I thought you just put like you did fuck all and you just sat around at home so I have had a revelation but you can do that on a me day every day for me is a me day well there you go you do, there you go except when I do Luanna that's a work day or content, then that's a work day or like life admin of like managing all the stuff I just think in life and managing houses in different locations I mean you have a very busy it girl lifestyle but the thing is we do know this is with my life planning yacht trips Yeah, planning your shoes.

6:17Anna Williamson:Planning plastic surgery. Buying a horse. But stress and burnout is at an all-time high. And it's because just because we can do it all, I don't believe it means we can do it all, so to speak. And that's why, well, no, but as in, it doesn't mean we should, exactly. And I think some, I very much recognise that I burn out and overwhelm very, very quickly. And my calf. Hello, ADHD today. My calf. What's wrong with it? I see those bruises. Oh, yeah, why? What's that from? Horse riding? No, parties. sex addict that was I'm junior oh it's because you were clambering up a wall anyway so take more time for yourselves guys even if it's 20 minutes on the bog taking a shit with some earplugs in just do what you need to do when I go on holiday with the kids I always take gym stuff oh because you're doing you've got your family holiday now so I've got my family holes what's the plan no I'm back now yeah but what oh god because obviously guys this is summer so we do slightly bank a few of our episodes Been on my family holes.

7:17Anna Williamson:Yeah. I'm now going to Spain. What's Spain got in store for? Because my 10th wedding anniversary, which we celebrated whilst on La Yacht, Andrew said as a gift, like, what am I going to get you? Obviously, I said a new horse. Obviously, she did. Anyway, so I did go to Spain and I looked at a horse and then the vet didn't pass it. So I didn't get that horse. I still got to pay, actually, I've just reminded me, two grand to a vet for that. Ouch. That's a spenny horse that you're not going to get. I know. Ouchie. So now I'm going again. To look for another horse? Yeah. For my wedding anniversary present.

7:55Anna Williamson:Will, do you remember you had that horse lady, the horse estate agent that really didn't cut it for you? Have you got a new horse estate agent? No, I've gone direct now through some different contacts. Love that. Love that for you. Yeah, so I'm just going. I'm going with my friend Amanda. I'm going with my trainer Nikki. Nikki lives in Spain. And we're going to stay at her lovely house. It's really nice. So Amanda and I are flying out and then we'll go on a little recce horse shop here and we'll have a few cocktails together, a little chill by the pool. It's very fun. This is the summer. I think we very much adopted over the last couple of years.

8:29Anna Williamson:I think just kind of, I think UK does do this a lot more. We're doing the European thing. We do this. We're all starting to now, I think, wind down. Not everyone. I appreciate not everyone can do it with their jobs. Emma's like, fuck cocktails. I'm in a full-time contract over here with Global. I don't break it must quieten down for you a bit MO because we don't is it not MO is it not at all okay fine we will make an exception to that then but I think because a lot does it for you Becca a little bit must do a bit because we don't we're not here I mean I do know in the telly industry which I mean all celebs go dating will be coming out very soon but typically telly tends to take a bit of a wind down over the summer so it's a good opportunity that if you can take a break take a break I appreciate not everyone we like to do We don't have to caveat it so much, but fuck it.

9:15Do you know what? We can and we fucking do. And we like the European style of we have a little, most of August we won't work.

9:22Anna Williamson:Yeah, exactly. It is nice, isn't it? We don't really. Did you book a summer holiday? Yes. Yeah, we're off to, well, we're going to keep it staycation because we've got the Renault that we're keeping an eye on. And because I've been away filming celebs the last few months. And also the weather has been glorious in England. I haven't been very present with the Renault. And we've got a lot of key decisions now to pull through. So we're going to be around, but we're going to, you know, we like a bit of the lakes. We're going to Lake Windermere again, which we're looking forward to. The kids love a bit of Beatrix Potter.

9:47Anna Williamson:So we're doing our little Beatrix Potter hike. Very wholesome. And, yeah, I think we're going to just do a few little staycations. Bit of Devon, bit of this, bit of that. Someone is ringing the door in Dubai. Oh, there you go. Let them in. Husband's there. So, yeah, so whatever you might be doing for your summer holes, guys, hope you enjoy. And, of course, the good thing is, is that every single week, Luanna, the podcast will be here in your ears. It's still here. By the way, actually, I've just realised that this ep is going out the weekend after I've been at Latitude. So Dixie dying to go to Latitude Festival.

10:20She's 15. I don't know about other parents, but I wouldn't let her go on her own. No, I wouldn't. Picked Latitude because I felt like it's quite a safe one. I don't really know anything about festivals. So been in the horse box since Thursday. Thursday to Sunday. I'm desperate to know about this, actually. Horse box vibes. Yeah. and then yeah so I don't know how that's gone I'll update you once I've been I'm curious to know if you're going to be like

10:44Anna Williamson:oh my god I've decided I've loved festival and you're going to turn to Bridget Jones I bought a lot of outfits from Sheen of course you have for it you love new Sheen don't you I do like a bit of Sheen I've never bought a thing off Sheen it's actually really good I bought like this really nice little crochet let me show you a picture little crochet waistcoat what can I say guys I just use boutiques in Santa Pana wanker yeah Boutique and Sun Trop Put loads off there And it is good I know that some people do say It's a bit controversial isn't it Sheen I think that is a bit controversial Look at this little crochet waistcoat That's really nice to be fair £6.50 She's now showing me her norks in a crochet Are you going to wear a vest under that?

11:28I was just sending these to Lucy That's cute Let's get on shall we Oh, can I just say that? I forgot to mention this last week and it fucking made me laugh so much when we were away. I have realised some of the source of your hypochondria, see. Do you know your hypochondriac? Big time. I've realised someone feeds it. Who? Alex. Does he? Yes, he does.

11:53Anna Williamson:Does he? Is he an abler to my hypochondria? Yes, I feel that actually he might be to blame. Go on. Right. we got out of taxi oh my god okay oh mic down I'm blocking my beautiful face anyway so we get out of taxi can I just say he is the most unsympathetic person normally and we're going to a beach club oh yeah and there was like a plank of wood and there was a nail coming out of it and Anna stood straight on it she did have shoes on but it went in the side like in her foot checking my foot now and it did bleed like a tiny bit not that much quite a lot but and then Alex is like rusty nail you might need a tetanus.

12:33Anna Williamson:He did! He did! He went full Anna psycho on me. And I was like I think she'll be fine. And Anna was like do you? Do you think I need a tetanus? And I was like oh have you got tetanus? I've got tetanus. I think we've all got them haven't we? I don't really know. I mean I have I'm up to date on all my boosters I think. Don't we have that as a kid? Does it wear off? Anyway. Tell us medical professionals. It was in that moment and Anna was like oh I'll go and get the first aid. Do you think I need a tetanus? And Alex was like you might. It is a rusty nail. And I was like I think it'll be fine and we got in that beach club and straight away, Anna, to the first aid.

13:05Can I just say, she's got a little anti. I forgot to tell you this actually. Normally, Alex is the most unsympathetic person you've ever met. It was in that moment that I thought, he fucking feeds that hypochondriac. It's fucking rusty nail and tetanus. Just get on with it. Have a shot of tequila. And I went to her, just rub a bit of tequila on it, babe. It's pure alcohol. We'll be having bottles of it in a minute. Anyway,

13:25Anna Williamson:you'll be fine. Well, do you know what? Normally, I'll be honest, I was quite pleased in that moment because it was a rare moment of him being very sympathetic. I was like, I milked that shit to death from him because he's never known me like that. But I forgot to tell you, obviously guys walk straight in and then walk straight to go and find a medical professional. I'm going up to this security guy, like lifeguard-y person. I was like, who is le docteur, le médecin? And he went, I'm English. No, he was actually speaking English. So then I'm then having to explain. I'm like, pied, pied, mal pied, bad foot.

13:59Anna Williamson:Malapied. All right with the French. Can I just say, guys, there it is, GCSE. Quite impressed. GCSE. Found my way, of course I did, to find the lady. Right, there it is. Found my way to the lady and it was the toilet assistant. Right. Went into the toilet assistant's cupboard of dreams. She opens up that bad boy and in there is a basket, a cocktail, a buffet of medical stuff. Well, I sat in there on a little wicker chair and knocked myself out on the antiseptic spray. I mean, she was coming at me with so many different sprays. She was nice that toilet tender. I gave her 10 euro in thanks because I was nicking her spray.

14:31Anna Williamson:I medicalised myself. And have you been okay? You've not died, have you? I have been fine. What does tetanus protect you against then? Tetanus. Right, okay. So tetanus is a thing. I thought it was just called tetanus jab. What is tetanus? Tetanus is a serious bacterial infection that affects the nervous system causing painful muscle spasms and stiffness, particularly in the neck and jaw. That could be me. You could have been like... A little bit stiff. Locked door. Well, I would like... Can someone please tell us? I know we have a lot of doctors, nurses, medical people. We do. When would I have...

15:09Anna Williamson:I can't be bothered to ring my GP. So when would I have had my tetanus? How long does it take to kick in? No, no, no. But the boosters. Because I know you'll have a jab, don't you? I've definitely had tetanus. I've definitely had tetanus in the last 10 years. Yeah, I've had tetanus in adult life. I don't know if I have. Well... Do you get called up for it? Or do you just have to opt in for yourself? If you do something or go somewhere, something happened to me and they gave me a tetanus shot. I don't know what it was, some injury along the way. No, you probably aren't up to date with your tetanus.

15:36I'm going to ring up the doctors.

15:37Anna Williamson:Hang on, I'm just going to do a note, admin for Anna. Let's just write myself because I'm going to actually, I feel like my jaw is getting a bit stiff now. So I'm going to do it. Ring, doc. Are you for real? Re-tetanus. I've just put anus in there. Re-tetanus. I need to go for my hep A or B though, because I had it when I went to Africa. And if I have another one soon, I think I'm out of date. Most people get like a three in one booster. It's like tetanus, diphtheria and polio. I think I've had that. You get it all at the same time. But you don't get called up for it, no? No. No, you normally go like if you're going on holiday or whatever and you need it.

16:14You probably haven't had it. Mind you, you did go to weird places when you were younger doing like these teas.

16:20Anna Williamson:Well, twice over. So I've had shit loads of stuff over my time. I just don't know in the last 10 years.

16:28Anyway, let's crack on. With time for Did You Know, Widthim, Opected, dun, dun, dun.

16:36Anna Williamson:This was sent in by a listener. Oh, hi, listener. Whose name I didn't write down. Brilliant. So thank you. Did you know why someone is called a grass? Oh, this is a good one. Oh, yeah, this is a good one. Go on. In British slang, grass or grasser... Grassy ass. ...is used to describe an informant or someone who informs on others to the authorities, particularly the police. This usage likely originated from rhyming slang, grasshopper, which in turn rhymed with copper, a slang term for a police officer. Therefore, grass became a shortened way to refer to someone who tells another to police. That's a brilliant one.

17:17I never knew that, actually. Would you be a grass to get yourself out of jail? Yeah. I 100 % would too. Oh, totally grass. I would. If I was facing years in jail, would you grass on me then? Oh, it depends on what it is.

17:33Anna Williamson:Actually, it does depend on who I'm grassing up, because I wouldn't grass up my kids. You wouldn't grass up your mate. You wouldn't grass up your mate. So actually, I don't know if I'd be a grass. I'd say it's very subjective, actually, whether I'd be a grass or not. I think it also depends on what they've done. What they've done, yeah. If I murdered someone and I was like, Anna, help me hide the body. Yeah. if you said no, I would respect that. Yeah, I'd say no. But, would you then grasp that I'd murdered? I'd probably just pretend that I didn't know anything. Pretend that you didn't have that conversation.

18:09Anna Williamson:I'd just get, no, amnesia. Just be like, Like I do a lot in life actually, I forget a shit lot. I forget all the time. I forget all the time. I'd probably forget if I killed someone. I probably would forget that actually. Yeah. Well, I forgot I was 44, I thought I was 43, I lost a whole year. There we go. Would you, MO? Would you grass us up? No. No. I'd say ignorance is bliss. No. So we wouldn't be a grass. Well, I would grass on someone if I didn't like them or didn't know them. I'd be like, excuse me, copper, I saw that crime. Here's something. If you saw something and then they were like, oh, can you be a witness?

18:47Then you would be like, yeah, I saw him stab her.

18:50Anna Williamson:Yeah. Like if it was some random little scat boy stabbing. I guess it was going to put you in direct danger to do that. Yeah. Like, okay, here's one confession zone. Has anyone like, even like a minimal level, like or maximum level, anyone like done a proper grass? Like even back in the day, even when you were a kid or as an adult. I'm just trying to think if I've grassed on someone. Well, actually, I haven't. Such a good word, grass. I don't think I have. Because what is the actual non-slang term for grass? Informant. Oh, informant. Yeah, of course it is. right Lufallians over to you I've never been like I've never like let's throw it open to Lufallians we bet you've got some absolute corkers up your sleeve of when you've grassed on someone maybe you've never confessed it before maybe you're taking it to the grave bring it to us, you can have a granny name obviously Luanna at everythingluanna.com let us know any of your best grassing up stories some good illegal activity I'm trying to think now because in my village I'm a little bit cross because someone's moved me traffic cone that I've put outside my granny pad.

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19:57Anna Williamson:Someone's moved my traffic cone, right? No, it's not. I've put it on my village spotted to say give me my traffic cone back, thank you. It's there for a reason. Thank you very much. Yes, yes Becca I have. So I would quite like someone from my village to grass up. I know who you are but come and grass them up to me who's nicked me traffic cone. Who has it then? There will be a reward. You know you're just going to take it back. Have a traffic cone war. Lou, it's on. You're going to take it back? Yeah. And I would like a reward. Where did you get the traffic cone from, Anna? I bought my traffic cones.

20:30No, you didn't. I did. Why would you buy them when you can just rob them from the side of the street? Because I am an honest... You didn't buy them. I did. You bought them. But there's so many on the road. I couldn't find a traffic cone. Oh, I could find you. I've robbed so many traffic cones in my time. No, I bought some... They're quite heavy. Yeah, I bought some sand-weighted ones. Yeah. Sand-weighted traffic cones. Why would you buy them? Because I didn't rob any. Well, I just drive along, and then if I think, oh, I need a traffic cone, I just pull over and take it and put it in my car. Casual robbing from Lou.

21:02No, I... Well, there's so many. They discard loads of them. Well, I...

21:06Anna Williamson:Mine got removed, so I bought some. I am quite impressed. Thank you, babes. But someone's robbed my traffic cones. They're private property. I've bought those. Why do... Do you want me to get my cricket machine and put Anna's cone? If you wouldn't mind, actually. On them, so they're not robbed. Yes, please. And I could do it with permanent vinyl. Yes, please. I'd quite like that. I could actually even do a design. Yeah, I would quite like that. They're protecting my property from farm traffic at the moment. I could do a finger. Yes, please. And then, or put your house name on it. These belong to here.

21:36Or Anna's cone. Actually, no, the house name. Fuck off my cone.

21:40Anna Williamson:Yeah, fuck off my cone would be quite good. Mind you, you don't want kids in the village doing that. That's true. But hands off me cones. All right? Yeah. There you go. Grass is all welcome. I cannot believe that you bought, I mean, I guess there is a business for that. Of course there is. I've always just robbed them. Guess how much four traffic cones, four high quality weighted traffic cones cost me. How much? £64. Oh, that's cheaper than I thought. No. What are you laughing at, Bex? That's quite cheap. Karen is such a... It's the most Karen thing I've ever heard. Bex is calling Anna Karen. Well, bringing my traffic cones back.

22:12Anna Williamson:It was only£64 for four. Yeah, that's why I bought them, though. I didn't rob them. I wanted brand nice new ones as well. I just do get a thrill out of robbing. Well, I don't. I got a thrill out of buying them and then I got really pissed off because someone nicked me cone. Do you want me to rob one for you? Well, I'd quite like me cones back. How many do you need? Four. What? All four of your cones have been taken? No, but I'd just like to get surplus in case someone else has to rob them. So now you're just putting my life at risk being greedy asking me to rob you four. But guess what? I wouldn't grass on you.

22:41Oh, right, anyway, let's move on. I'll get you four cones back. Thanks, Babes. Thanks, Babes. I just drive around in my car and I just stop. I just put it in the boot. There you go. I thought everybody did that. You know, like if I have a party or an event and I need a cone. I genuinely never crossed my mind. Really? Our brains are very different. They are. Right. Messages now. I've got a message from a non, so Doris. Hi, Luanna and Imo. Please keep me a non. Call me Doris after my nan. I'm a child protection social worker, the least glamorous and what feels like the most hated job in the world.

23:13I disagree.

23:14Anna Williamson:No, I think you're amazing at what you do. Very necessary job. It's the little things that keep me going, including the interesting and sometimes amusing sentences I never thought would leave my mouth. The highlights of this week include... Oh, here we go. So he took his poo out of his trousers and ate it like an apple. Was this before or after lunch? Oh, my gosh. Be honest with me now. Why are there nine dead cats in your freezer? Oh, my gosh. I know divorces can be really upsetting but if Karen wants to shove glass bottles up her anus she's an adult and there is nothing I can do to stop that I'm afraid oh my god that was not her real name by the way oh my gosh this job honestly baffles me sometimes Doris we just would like a bit more context around Karen shoving the glass up her anus because she's getting divorced what was that what was the more guff give us the context I want the guff around that you could please write back in thank you and we don't hate you we commend you for your job it's a very very very difficult job to do brilliant brilliantly worthwhile needed job and very difficult well done you right message oh yeah so many questions message from anonymous so Maureen next hello my lovely Luanimo hi lovely Maureen this is a long shot and I doubt it will make it on the pod but here goes nothing guess what Maureen you've made it you've bloody made it mate if by some miracle it does make it I'm Maureen I've been with my boyfriend for around 10 months my previous serious relationship ended 3 years ago after 7 years together, owning a property holidays, major life events and discussions of marriage and children he one day, completely out of the blue after work, on the sofa whilst watching TV and talking about our upcoming holiday told me that he didn't love me anymore and I lost everything that's so heartbreaking I was broken, both emotionally and mentally now I realise it was the best thing that could have happened and I understand that we just weren't right for each other.

25:11Anna Williamson:I spent the next two years navigating a lot of change and trying to build myself up again. Something I couldn't have done without the support and love of my amazing colleagues, family and friends. And of course, incredible podcasts that had me wheezing and crying whenever I needed that comfort. I now own my own home again. Good for you. Yeah, I have game promotions at work and feel really happy in my independent life. Yes. Well, back to today, I realised that I have developed feelings of love for my current boyfriend. I have realized I have not lost my anxiety and emotional scarring from my previous relationship where I was kept in the dark and practically abandoned without what felt like a care or thought or discussion.

25:47Anna Williamson:Both my boyfriend and I aren't great at communicating our feelings and he has never been in a long-term relationship. We're both in our 30s. Today we had a conversation where I plucked up a courage to say that I have developed strong feelings of love but I'm waiting until he is ready to say these three little words. I should say that his previous relationship ended because he was not ready to say I love you when she was. They argued and then broke up. He told me today that he isn't ready to use the word love. I feel conflicted because straight away my brain goes into overthinking mode. What's wrong with me?

26:19Anna Williamson:Have I done something wrong? Am I annoying to be around? What if he doesn't love me? What if this is a waste of time again? I guess I just don't know if it's normal for someone not to love another after being together for 10 months. I know it's not actually a long time and I'm well aware of that after my previous relationship but it's a long time to be with someone if it's not going anywhere being in my 30s I feel pressure to have my relationship figured out and at least know it has the possibility to provide the future I want my friends are all now pretty much married or having children with their partners they aren't afraid to show their emotions I'm also feeling my own maternal pool and it makes me feel sick to think I could end up in my 40s and childless am I silly for waiting to see if maybe after a year his feelings might have changed or am I just wasting my time again?

26:59Anna Williamson:I love you ladies. Do you know what? I think give it a year and then if he hasn't fallen in love with you after a year. Another year? No, no, it's been 10 months. Give it another two months. I would say after a year of being in a relationship with someone, you would know, especially in your 30s, whether you're going to have a future with them or not. And I do just feel like so many women are in their 30s wasting time on relationships that aren't going anywhere that are never going to be or they do feel like they're going somewhere and then they're like caught off off guard and they're not when actually you are having that maternal pull you do know what you want with regards to children and marriage and if you want that go and bloody get in get it with somebody that wants that too and that feels the same way about you and I I think a year is a good enough chunk of time for someone for two people to get to know each other enough to know what they want in life so that's my opinion on it but I have been engaged both times after only a year in a relationship so what I would say listening to to this message is I think you're obviously carrying a lot of emotional baggage from your previous relationship which is understandable but just to throw into context here love is an action it's a verb it isn't just words it sounds like the words are really important to you and it sounds like you have a lot hinged on that from your previous experience not going well and also now from his experience that hasn't gone well because he didn't say I love you those words my advice to you would be really focus on the action actions like I say speak volumes is he showing you he loves you as it demonstrated is there trust is there transparency is there emotional intimacy all of these things go towards love also intimacy passion and commitment is what makes up love are you emotionally physically intimate passion is it passionate you know do you have shared interest shared passions and commitment are you each other's friends you know do you have trust and loyalty if all of those ingredients you can say yes we have those then that my friend is love and I want to possibly give you a different reframing of how important is just saying I love you to you if someone is showing you because you know what Words are cheap.

29:12Anna Williamson:Anyone can say I love you and not actually mean it. So I would just hang in there and look at the actions and maybe do a little bit more reframing around the words. The thing is, you're in your 30s. You need to have some open communication about what you both want out of life long term. You do, yeah. Because he might be just poddling along and doing all these things that you think you're trying to read into it. Is that action love? Isn't that action love? He's done that. Does that mean he loves me? Does that not? I think you're better off just not beating around the bush and saying, look, give it another couple of months.

29:44We've been in this for a year now. Where do you see this going? Because in my future, I see marriage and children. That's something that I would like to achieve before I'm 40. In your 30s now, you have got time to quit this relationship and meet someone that's absolutely committed to you and in love. And you will meet someone else that wants the same things as you. So I do think, although you can try and be cryptic and read into the, and I don't disagree with what you're saying. but you've got to talk about it.

30:13Anna Williamson:You do need to have the clarity in actually where your goals are going hand in hand. You can't second guess every action and whether that, because does that mean for him, like cooking you dinner and making the bed and doing your washing or picking your mum up and, you know, for you that might be like, oh my God, he really loves me. Like he took my mum to X, you know, and he's thinking, oh, it was just a ride. But you're right, but there needs to be the clarity around the life goals as well, exactly where you're heading with it. I think there's like a mix between the two. Someone very, very close to me went through a very similar situation where she was with someone for an extended period of time.

30:48Anna Williamson:They never said that they loved her. The relationship ended up finishing. But like, I get that actions speak really loud, right? But how long do you go on? Like, if he's after two, two and a half years, still displaying these lovely emotions, but saying, I can't say those words. I don't know if I just wouldn't stick around for two and a half years what do what do you do then because you say he hasn't been in a long-term relationship before so maybe because when I was having conversations with the person that went through it I was like maybe he has he doesn't really know in his head what love is everyone has different versions of what love is in their head and he could have like an inflated idea of what being in love is and obviously you're influenced by like movies and and tv and like if your parents have a gorgeous relationship you could be influenced by them and even though you don't see all of your anyone's relationship and so you could be like i have this which i really love and it's or i really like and it's really great but but is it love and he could be like questioning it um so many people do question it well I think but I think it's it's it's how open and communicative you can be within that I mean my point to this is don't hinge everything just on the if he says I love you I don't say I love you by a certain time I wouldn't say that is an indicative of whether this is a loving relationship or not it's so much more nuanced than that to your point this comes into everything intentions what what do you love about me you know it's things like it's it's looking it's it's expanding from that very trauma point they've both got around the I love you so for this particular couple if I was coaching them I'd say take the pressure off those three words look outside the box to see where there is love to ascertain your clarity around do you want to be together what is your life plan and then from that you will hopefully come back together to actually establish to your point Emo what love actually is to you because it is to different people i think i do think after a year you know someone enough to know whether you see your life intentions yes and your future especially when you're in your 30s like less so maybe when you're in your 20s and you know everything's a bit more carefree but by the time you get into your 30s you've seen enough of life to know what the fuck you want out of it and whether that person's giving it or not yeah and she needs to be clear with him to your point I'm just quite cut through but she needs to say but to your point very important look this is what I want the marriage the kids please let me know if this is in your horizon if you don't see me like my character my morals the way like you know how I feel about families and like if you don't see that if that doesn't align with your views on how you'd like to raise a family or if you want to raise a family then that's fine then that's great but just fucking part ways because you're not right for each other exactly because also So in her mind, the way she receives love could be words of affirmation.

33:49Anna Williamson:Exactly. She needs that to feel loved, but she needs to communicate that to him. Exactly. All about clear, concise communication. Exactly. What do you need to feel love to show that expression of love? And if lots of people do struggle with words, some struggle with affection. You know, people do. You know, my Alex isn't very affectionate. He's just not. It doesn't mean he doesn't love me, but I've had to figure out a different way that he displays his love. figure that out and that's what I've said but you're right don't let it linger on and on and on and on but you have to have these markers of clarity as you go along.

34:20Anna Williamson:Good luck my lovely I think it is a big one. What is love is a big question. Give it a couple of months babes and then find you're Mr. Right. If you haven't yeah. Because what's the point in wasting time? Your eggs are gonna die. Oh lovely. Well it's true that's what I say to all my friends I'm like you're fucking wasting your time with this dude that won't commit to you that you're hanging in there on it just happened to one of my friends now she's just got to 40 she spent seven years with a guy who then announced oh I don't see that with you anymore right well thanks for fucking telling me well I've just wasted seven years of my life on you and I'm now 40 and by the way might not be able to have kids because you are 40 like I know that I bang on about this and I was lucky I had my children when I was young I always wanted to be young when I had kids But the reality is that people are having to have so much intervention now with fertility because you are born with your eggs from day one when you land on this earth.

35:19Okay, men are luckier than women and they just can reproduce that spunk over and over again. We're not. We're born with these eggs that stay with us. And by the time you get into your, you know, after, what is it, 35, your class is a geriatric mother because your eggs are of lesser quality. Like, it's a really important thing. And I know that people are like, oh, we can have it all. And, you know, I read an article about a woman who's 49 and is just having a baby on her own in The Times this weekend. And that's great if you're one of the lucky ones that can do that. Yeah, but that's not the majority.

35:52The reality is that if you're with some dickwad that's wasting your time and you then hit 40 and you haven't achieved your life goal, you've got to be selfish in life, right? You've got to be selfish. You have to go after what you want. You only get one chance. Yeah, if you know what you want, go and fucking get it. Because otherwise you might then really struggle to have the children that you so wanted in your 30s. And I've said before, haven't I, my relationship prior to Alex.

36:18Anna Williamson:You were lucky having L with no intervention at your age. No, I was 38 when I got pregnant with her. But my previous relationship before Alex, like I said, we had that relationship. And then five years in, he was like, actually, I don't want this. It's heartbreaking. And it was hard, but I am grateful he told me at 32. Do you know what I mean? Not at 42. How your life then so quickly changed. Oh, my God. I married Alex, had first baby in 18 months. Exactly. I mean, wham, bam, thank you, ma 'am. But that does happen. And that happens often to people. So don't feel like you should stick it out because you're going to be left on the shelf.

36:49No. Because you will be fucking left on the shelf if you stick it out for too long. Right, a message from Steve. Sorry, depressing butchery. Well, you know.

36:57Anna Williamson:Best thing that's ever happened to you financially. Go. Easy. Sold my car on Carvana. Amazing offer. Really? I hit 200 on a scratcher. Did the scratcher come to your house and hand you a check? No. How many scratchers did you hit to get that? I hit a button on Carvana.com once. Okay, that's fair. It's like the lottery, except you always win. Not like the lottery at all, actually. Exactly. Inexplicably good. Offers worth bragging about. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pickup fees may apply. Hi, Luana, Imo, and the ever-expanding Luana crew that keep this crazy heyride of a show going. Hey, gang.

37:34Anna Williamson:A fairly long one, so as Anna would say, strap in. I'd actually say, settle in peeps. You do say strap in as well. But I will say strap in as well. This happened to a friend of a friend. Yeah, right. So I am now officially the third generation to be dining out on this wonderful tale of misadventure and terrible decision making. This series of unfortunate events begins with said friend of a friend spotting a wasp's nest in the tree in his garden, right above the shed in which his motorbike is stored. He has to access the shed somewhat regularly, so a nest full of aggressive little arse-daggered thugs in close proximity is not ideal.

38:09Anna Williamson:Oh, don't I hate wasps. He decides that the nest's nest needs to go. But rather than choosing the rational route of, I should probably call in a professional, he decides that he could probably deal with this situation himself. And so calls out to his wife with the following fateful words. Hey, Lynn, got any hairspray? Hairspray? Can I just say, we have had a wasp's nest removal person come round, and that shit is about as professional as it gets. You do not want to go near those things. Apparently, though, if you get some petrol in like a Tupperware, and you put that up, it gases them. They all drop into it.

38:41Do they? Yeah, and then you can just go like that and swipe it and it goes into the tub and the petrol's good. Well, we get rid of them ourselves here. Do you? Ian puts on a bee outfit. Does he? Yeah, always very good, Ian. He's got outfits for everything as well. He's got the beekeeper outfit to tackle the wasp nest. Then he puts on his diving outfit and he fixes leaks in the lake. I mean, there he is. Always got outfits, our Ian.

39:03Anna Williamson:The ever-growing wardrobe of Ian, the estate manager. Well, anyway, so here we go. With what I can only assume were flashbacks of Ripley's flamethrower alien egg scene from Alias, oh my God, I remember it well, running through his head and no doubt with visions of a decisive flame, induced victory over his winged and weaponised opponents, he has decided that a can of hairspray and a light hair... He's going to spray it and set it on fire. ...will be just the tools to get the job done. Okay. With his weapons of choice in hand and glory on his mind, he steps into the fray. whoosh! Just as planned, a ball of flaming death hits the wasp's nest, immediately setting it ablaze.

39:46Anna Williamson:Victory! Now, I don't know if you're familiar with the way that wasp's nests are constructed, but they are, I do, because they're massive and like this big ball thing, but they are essentially made of wood and foliage that has been chewed to a paste, so it's something akin to papier-mâché. It's very clever. All of ours were carried out. And it's apparently just as flammable. So in this particular case, whilst the main body of the nest was fairly large and bulbous, the piece holding it to the tree really wasn't and very quickly burned through and broke. Now, you will note from earlier that the nest was located directly above his shed, his wooden shed, housing his very expensive and much beloved pride and joy.

40:30Anna Williamson:With its tether to the tree now broken, the thoroughly ignited wasp's nest drops directly onto the shed's wooden roof and rolls out of sight like a smoking bowling ball of doom. Too high and too far out of reach to recover, the nest sets about taking its revenge by setting the roof of the shed-alight. Panic stations! This hasn't gone to plan and now he has a fire to fight in addition to the swarm of very angry wasps who are apparently not best pleased with his efforts. Water. Water is the solution to fire. Frantic cries of, Len, get the hose, get the hose. The garden hose is hastily recovered and connected up as he races towards the shed to unleash a torrent of cooling, fire-quelling water.

41:11Anna Williamson:But the hose is far too short to reach the shed. So instead of quenching the fire, he instead gives the lawn a light spritzing. Great for the grass, not particularly helpful for the problem at hand. The fire is now spreading quickly. So he braves smoke and flames and a swarm of rather angry wasps to recover his precious motorbike out of the shed and wheels it out of harm's way. And also has to concede that the situation is rapidly getting out of hand and caused the fire brigade to come to his rescue. He has quickly turned from brave warrior to damsel in distress. The fire brigade turned up and put the fire out, but not before the shed was completely destroyed.

41:47Anna Williamson:And he had to face the humiliation of explaining how his predicament had come about. Needless to say, he hadn't really thought his plan through very well and now has a burnt-out shed to dispose of, a new shed to buy and construct, a thoroughly singed tree in his garden, nowhere to store his motorbike and to compound his misery, a mob of furious wasps nesting somewhere nearby. On the upside, I have passed this story on to several of my colleagues. Whenever our management come up with yet another harebrained idea that we can all see is going to go disastrously wrong, we simply look at each other and say, got any hairspray keep up the good work frankly your podcast should be funded by the NHS as an aid for mental health man fan Steve Steve what a brilliant story love that do you know it's made me think got any hairspray got any hairspray we had three in our loft which were all redundant ones but we got got a man round to sort them out imagine if we'd taken to it with hairspray and a lighter burnt your house down burnt the bloody granny pad down babes well that would have solved the um renovation issues and stuff wouldn't it and the lifting issues it's a new house Burn that fucker down.

42:51Remember, if you want to get in touch, you can email us, Luana at everythingluana.com. Or you can drop us a WhatsApp on 07745 266 947.

43:02Anna Williamson:Right, newsy bits. We haven't read about this. So let's see what Imo has popped in today's episode. Hello, just jumping in for a quick trigger warning. This next news story does contain descriptions of sexual abuse that some listeners might find distressing. the section lasts about five minutes, four and a half, five minutes until the next ad break so do skip forward if that's not something you want to listen to and please look after yourselves Perverts who live streamed sex attacked on teen girl in a van walks free from court, this sounds awful, pardon me three men, sorry doll, three men who groomed a girl online and later filmed her being sexually abused have apparently avoided prison She's 15 as well She was abused with sickening footage that was posted on social media.

43:50Anna Williamson:This happened at night in Rivington, which is a popular beauty spot in the West Pennine Moors near Bolton. And three men were sentenced for sexual offences against the victim. Liverpool Crown Court, these three men were each allowed to walk free from court after being given suspended sentences. Callum, Heskeith, Thomas Ray and Michael Linford. They pleaded guilty at an earlier hearing. And they pled guilty and they walked free. How? Well, because I'm suspended sentences. Oh, I see. They groomed her. The grooming began in 2018. She was 15 at the time of the grooming, messaged her via social media, asking her to take part in a threesome.

44:29She said no. And then he basically hounded her for weeks, a video call her, and then they got a lift in to meet them, basically. They picked them up in a white van, fed them alcohol, drove there. What the fuck? The police said they drove to Rivington, parked the vehicle. The victim's friend received a phone call and stepped out of the van. And in that moment, when the friend stepped out, they raped her.

44:54Anna Williamson:The statement read, while this was happening, Hesketh recorded the sex acts on his mobile phone, sent them out via a broadcast option on a social media platform with the caption, gang bang out here. The victim heard that Hesketh was talking on his mobile phone and a short while later, three more men arrived on motorbikes and one of them, Thomas Ray, approached the van, removed his penis from his trousers and orally raped the victim. Trigger warning for this one, please, obviously, guys. Obviously, the two... Oh, sorry, afterwards, the two girls got into the rear of the van and the two men, Hesketh and Linford, took them back to Adlington and bought a bottle of wine for them before they drove off.

45:29Anna Williamson:Michael Linford admitted one count of sexual activity with a child under the age of 16 in Rivington in 2018 and he was given an 11-month jail sentence suspended for 12 months. What does that mean? Does that mean he's already been in prison on remand? No. So it means that for 12 months, he can go home, but he's under a set of rules basically given out by the court. So basically he can't do anything naughty. And if he reoffends or does something against the law, he will go to jail for 11 months. But essentially his sentence is being lived out at home. That is. And they've all been given suspended sentences.

46:11How? How?

46:41that we will not tolerate this abhorrent behaviour and we will bring you to justice. We're not fucking really old PC Robert Booth. DC, DC Robert Booth. DC. Well, I mean... That's not really justice, is it? I don't think so at all. Well, because what does that... Well, you're living at home watching EastEnders. That's bad, you can shut someone in your van. Rape them. Rape them, broadcast it, say multiple offences.

47:02Anna Williamson:And then basically live out your sentence watching EastEnders at home and going to bed at 8 o 'clock at night. Yeah. I mean, that's bullshit. That's bullshit. Absolute bullshit. And that's why we have such an issue with rapes not being reported enough and sexual abuse going under the radar. Because what's the fucking point in going through all that heartache, stress, being outed in public like that, if nothing fucking happens? It's terrible. But on that, please do always report anything that has happened to you. Please always do go to the police. It's never your fault. But as you say, this is a really, really upsetting outcome.

47:39Anna Williamson:And we can only hope that better is done by the prosecution service. Sorry, I keep looking at my phone because my daughter is at the gallops with people. I'm worried she's going to fall off. Oh, bless you, Tony. That's why I keep looking at my phone. You're watching on YouTube. That's why. She's not distracted. That's why. Well, she is distracted. I'm trying to make sure she's okay. Sad times had to work instead of go going. Aw. This is funny, I saw this story. So ASOS bans shoppers for too many returns. What? Go on. Do you remember another one of the online band, what was that, Pretty Little Thing or something?

48:17Oh, go on. They banned loads of people's accounts a few months ago because they were returning too much. So what, you buy a haul, send it back. You buy a haul, you send it back. Or you buy multiple sizes, you send it back. ASOS have jumped on this bandwagon now, shut down customer accounts and ban them for returning too many orders. Why? What's the issue with them? Their shopping activity has breached its fair use policy. So basically, ASOS want to maintain their commitment to offering free returns to all customers. But one girl, basically, she's saying she spent at least£100 a month on ASOS and her latest holiday shop costs£500, but she always orders two sizes and returns the one that doesn't fit because ASOS sizing, she's saying, is unpredictable.

48:59and obviously you can't try it on because there's not a shop. So she essentially ends up sending half of her shop back.

49:07Anna Williamson:Well, I do that. Another shopper, Louise Gowry, who's 27 from Glasgow, said she tried to appeal her ban but was told on live chat that the decision was final. ASOS last year began charging£3.95 fee if customers made too many returns and kept less than£40 of their order. So some were irked at the time by the change and said they had no choice but to return the garments says the brand sizing was so unpredictable. But the PR director, Frankie Allen, said that she was... Sorry, nothing to do with her. A PR director. So she was also recently banned and tried to explain to customer services on the company's live chat system that she orders clothes in two sizes and returns the one that doesn't fit.

49:44Anna Williamson:Well, I do this a lot because I'm in between a size 10 and 12. Such robotic comms have changed the way that people view ASOS and alienated a lot of loyal customers, this person said. Interesting. What do we think about... Listen, businesses, from a business perspective, you can't maintain free returns. It costs them so much. So what they'd rather people did is order a size 10 and if that doesn't fit, send it back and order a size 12, for instance, instead of doing these multiple orders. Now I get why people order two sizes. No, because it might fit you. So the return isn't guaranteed. Oh, I see.

50:22I see what you mean. So if it doesn't fit you, I see what you mean. I'm kind between a 10 and a 12. Choose the 10. Order the 10 or order the 12, whatever you may see on, hope for the best. I see. Because the problem is it costs businesses so much. So if we want the likes of the ease of these online businesses and ASOS, they can't maintain that or they charge for every return. I guess what they're trying to say,

50:45Anna Williamson:and I guess just be a little bit more mindful with your ordering when it comes to that. But I've just done a big return after we went on the yacht holiday. But I actually have paid. I don't mind it if they charge me no£3 to send them back because I'd still rather that and get my£89 refund on a dress I didn't wear. Do you know what I mean? And look, three in four returned items of clothing are dumped in landfill or burnt due to processing fees. That's so bad. So they're trying to cut because it's such a loss for them. I mean, that's for me the eco. They're dumping three out of four as well from a business perspective.

51:17They're not reselling that clothing. No, I have more of an issue with that. So I actually don't blame them for doing this because I think we always think about things from the consumer's point of view, from the consumer's point. And actually... If it's environmental, then I support that.

51:29Anna Williamson:Yeah. I think being more mindful, if that is what is happening, then I do support that, actually. So I will be more mindful when I order my clothes. I wonder if I've still got my ASOS account. Yeah. Dun, dun, dun. I'm going to say. I mean, I never return things to Sheen. I just send it to charity. It's not worth it. Yeah, it's like six quid. Yeah. Anyway, right. Well, it's time for... It's the widow of the week Right, first up, anonymous So, Ariadne Ariadne What's the name? Ariadne Okay, lovely Hi, Luana and Emma I have spotted a weirdo of the week out in the wild Oh, here we go I've treated myself to a spa day today Picture this, it's quiet and I'm really enjoying a swim in the tranquil heated pool When a lady joins me She begins the standard slow breaststroke But then I noticed that with every stroke, she's taking a big gulp of water into her mouth, then spitting a telt, gulp, spit, gulp, spit for her entire swim.

52:27Anna Williamson:That is rank. She must have done 25 laps. That's a weird habit. Fucking rank. Fucking weird. That is disgusting. I wouldn't want to get in that pool. Why is she doing that? Why would she want it in her mouth? Aren't you supposed to be breathing in air, not dumping in water? She's got a weird technique. They didn't teach her well at school. Right, we've got another one. Mibar. Maeve. Maeve Spelled M-E-A-B-H Maeve Irish spelling Lovely Isn't it M-E-A-V-E? Yeah but this is the Irish spelling Oh Irish do spell their names weird Like Neve What does this say? Dier Dweet It's pronounced Dier Hwitch Dier Hwitch Oh here we go Felt compelled to say Hello in Irish There you go After all the hellos You've runed off around the world And forgot the best of them The bloody Irish How's it going again?

53:16Anna Williamson:Dier Hwitch Diahwitch Diahwitch There you go Hello in Irish I thought they should run Fech off Hello there Hello there I have a weirdo of the week I really need to know If I'm a total weirdo If I have some sort of Undiagnosed Neurodiverse thing Or if anyone else does this If I touch part of my skin To say scratch it Or rub it Then I have to mirror That feeling On the opposite side Of my body So if I scratch The outside of my ankle On my left leg I then have to scratch The same spot On my right leg I've tried to ignore the impulsive thoughts that are begging me to match the sides up. But it makes me feel out of sorts and I can't ignore it.

53:51It's very annoying when I'm lying in bed. And I have a little itch on my arm, so I scratch it. Then I have to move from my comfortable position to get to my other arm, which is tucked under me. Oh, no. And it's not itchy. It's just they have to have the same scratch. You're making me itch now. My husband thinks I'm a total weirdo, but I don't like the feeling of leaving out one side. Does anyone else do this? Thanks for the last me from Belfast.

54:12Anna Williamson:No, I don't do this. But now you're making me itch. You're itch now. Yeah, now you're making me itch. It's like when someone talks about nits and then you start scratching your old ears. I'm scratching the old titties. Maeve, I think you're a weirder of the week for that one, having to have a symmetrical itch. I've not heard that one. Water woman is weird as well. Oh, yeah, actually, to be fair, that is weird. You're now rubbing your tits. Quite strange. Yeah, it feels quite nice, to be fair. I always go like that, like put my hand down my top. You always touch your boobs. I'm like that on my boobs.

54:40It's like your little... I just cup it.

54:42Anna Williamson:Yeah, your... If I had balls and I was a guy, I'd cup them all the time. They do. I love the feeling of like a nice soft ball. Just walk in and I always see my brothers, just every male that is in my family basically, just hand on crotch. Hand on that. Watching the telly, lovely. Why do men do that? Because it's comfy. I wish I could just have a willy for the day to see what it'll feel like. I think it'll be so weird having that hang outside your body and like the balls, they must stick to their leg or like their gooch and stuff and then the willy gets all sticky. It's not a nicer willy. A nunny is much cleaner.

55:16It just feels like a little mini elephant trunk, doesn't it?

55:18Anna Williamson:Just sort of flapping around your front part. It would just feel weird for us, wouldn't it? I would really want to know. Maybe we should get a strap-on, like dingy-dangly willy. Like a silicone one. Yeah, is it? So we could spend a day. Yeah, like, yeah, is there one you can get? Yeah, you could sort of strap it on. Like, you know, you get those pregnant bellies. Yeah, is there a strap-on willy? You should get, like, a packer. A what? A packer. A packer? A packer. They're what trans men use. Oh! They're almost like, you know, the other week, we had that woman that found the willy in the park. Yes.

55:47Is it like that?

55:47Anna Williamson:I reckon that could be a packer. Oh, that makes sense then. That does make sense. So it looks really realistic. Yes. Maybe we'll look into that. But do they stick it on somehow or do they just rest it there? Rest it in their pants maybe. Could you look into it please? I'll look into it. But if it's just resting in the pants it's not going to be dandy. If you could look into it for next week. We need it attached to us. Thank you both. Yeah. So we can experience. Experience what it's like. If I were a boy I would play with my boy I keep going. I just keep thinking of the chats I have with my boy at the moment.

56:17Anna Williamson:I'm a willy-waving helicopter. Nice. He keeps asking me. I say the same. He's like, mummy, what does it feel like to have a nuni? And I'm like. Nothing. I don't know really. I was like, what does it feel like to have a willy? And he's just like, just normal. And it's like, yeah, we're having these chats a lot now. Anyone that? No, I'm not ranting. No, no ranting this week? Because currently today I'm flying to Spain to go shopping for my 10th wedding anniversary present. 84th horse incoming. That's my me time, bitches. Have a great week. It's August. Can you believe it next week? Wow. It's Christmas.

56:50It's going to be Christmas. Yeah. Soon. We are like two months over the Gucci of the year. I'm trying to get Anna to book to come to Dubai again for New Year. She's not biting at the minute.

56:59Anna Williamson:Well, you know, it's lovely to be invited. You are going to have your new house. Well, it all depends on the Renault. It is nice being in your new house. We'll see. But then you'll be fucking freezing in miserable England. No, I love freezing England. I love English winters. Fucking hate it. I'm a Caesars girl. Get me the hell out. Yeah, you love hot. I love the seasons. I love nothing more than a wood. I don't like wearing five pairs of trousers. Oh, I just love seasons. Because I'm so cold. Like, you can't imagine the cold when it's such nice weather like it's been. But what about a nice roaring fire with your snuggly knits and a glass of red wine?

57:28Anna Williamson:Have you kept your log burner in there? Oh, yeah. I've got three of those bad boys. Oh, you've got three in. We've got those anyway. Oh, you just look at them rid of chimneys. No, all the rustic fires. No, I love nothing more than an autumn. Honestly, autumn's my favorite. I just love seasons. I am nothing without my woodland walks and my trees I just want sun tan half naked right that is it for this week don't worry we will be back on Monday when it will be as I say August but you don't have to wait until then on Thursday we do have Luanna at Toti Extra and we need you our fabulous Leifanians especially over summer because we know all the parents that are now schools have broken up on the holidays it's tough we're all feeling you you can send your emails in Luanna at EverythingLawanna.com You can also send us a voice note or a message.

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