How Grimes Is Shaping The Future of AI Generated Content

10 May 2023 · 6 min

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Podcast Episode Notes: How Grimes Is Shaping The Future of AI Generated Content

Overview In episode #2450 of Marketing School, Neil Patel and Eric Siu discuss the implications of AI-generated music, particularly focusing on a recent track that incorporated content from artist Grimes. The episode dives into the pros and cons of AI in music, potential career implications for artists, and the evolving landscape of creativity and content creation in the face of advancing technology.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Background of AI-Generated Music
  2. Viral AI Track: An AI-generated music track that gained popularity featured a blend of sounds reminiscent of The Weeknd and Drake. The track was initially taken down due to copyright issues.
  3. Grimes' Response: In contrast, Grimes allowed an AI-generated track using her music to remain available, requesting 50% of the proceeds as an innovative way to expand her reach.
  1. Pros and Cons of AI-Generated Music
  2. Pros:
  3. Provides new revenue opportunities for artists, especially those who may not be making substantial income.
  4. Encourages creativity and experimentation in music production.
  5. Cons:
  6. Potential dilution of brand quality for well-known artists if low-quality content is produced.
  7. Risk of associating an artist's name with subpar creations, which may adversely affect future revenue potential.
  1. Industry Examples
  2. Hollywood Comparison: The discussion draws parallels to Hollywood, where poor-quality movies from once-popular actors can tarnish their brand over time.
  3. Winnie the Pooh Case: Mention of the character’s transition into the public domain, leading to the creation of various low-quality or inappropriate content, affects the original brand's integrity.
  1. Finding a Balance
  2. Quality Control: Discussion on the necessity of establishing criteria for what constitutes acceptable AI-generated content. The idea is to have a system that allows high-quality creations while rejecting those that do not meet certain standards.
  3. Creator Rights: Emphasizes the importance of creators having the right to earn from their work while controlling how their brand is represented in AI-generated content.
  1. Future Speculations
  2. Shifting Content Landscape: Predictions about how AI will continue to transform the content creation industry, potentially integrating with blockchain and smart contracts to ensure better creator rights and revenue sharing.

Conclusion The episode wraps up by acknowledging the exciting potential of AI in reshaping content creation while emphasizing the need for artists to navigate this new landscape carefully. Neil and Eric encourage listeners to contemplate the future of creativity in a world increasingly influenced by artificial intelligence.

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Connect with Hosts

  • Neil Patel: [Twitter](https://twitter.com/neilpatel)
  • Eric Siu: [Twitter](https://twitter.com/ericosiu)

Additional Resources

  • Visit [Marketing School](https://www.marketingschool.io) for more marketing content.
  • Links to mentioned works:
  • "In Another Life (feat GrimesAI)"
  • Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

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0:00All right. So we are going to talk about how Grimes is reshaping the future of AI generated content. So let me set the stage for this one. A while back, maybe a month or two ago, there's AI generated music from this guy. He looked like a ghost. It was a TikTok and he was wearing like a white sheet with goggles. So he looked like a ghost. He made a really, let's call it what do young people call it? They say fire, right? It was a fire track. And so it was a combination of The Weeknd and Drake, but it was totally AI generated. And it sounded really catchy. It's like, oh, it sounded like they really made it.

0:31And what happened immediately was that there was a takedown of all of that. So, you know, the music record labels and all that, they're pretty good at getting DMCA takedown requests in, which just basically means like, hey, like, this is illegal, you guys need to take it down. So it was taken down on Spotify, it was taken down on YouTube, everything. And so that happened. But then a week or two later, someone made AI generated music around the artist Grimes, who was with Elon for a while, I believe they had a baby. But so Grimes, her take on it was, oh, this AI generated content. Well, you know what?

1:02You can keep it up. Just give me 50 % of the proceeds. And I'm just going to use it to continue to expand my reach. See, I look at it two different ways. If you're up and coming, you're not generating a lot of income. And I'm not saying this is Grimes. I don't think she has to worry if she has a child with Elon Musk. I'm pretty sure she's financially taken care of. And I'm not saying that she can't do well on her own. I'm just saying, based on laws, I'm pretty sure Elon being the world's richest man or second world's richest man, I don't know what rank he is at currently, pretty sure he's providing for his own children.

1:33When you look at it, if you're an artist and you're not making that much money, sure, why wouldn't you want 50 %? But on the flip side, Eric, if I was a really, really popular celebrity, like a Drake, a Weeknd, a Tom Cruise, or whoever it may be, it's not just about the money, it's about the quality. I wouldn't want stuff being put out there that doesn't match the quality of my brand because I believe, and I have no data against this because we haven't seen enough of it, I believe it is going to hurt my future revenue potential because people will associate my name with crap then. And a great example of this is, do you remember a lot of the celebrities, and I'm not going to name any because I don't want to pick on them, and I respect them for business and just making money.

2:18But do you remember some of the celebrities back in the day that would just produce amazing movies? You know them. A lot of them live in your neck of the woods. And now a lot of them just crank out movies, and they'll just crank out whatever for the paycheck. And now when they create new movies, even though they used to have a big name, no one cares to see their movies because they'll crank out one or two a year, low quality. The storyline sucked. The acting isn't great. Even though they're a great actor or actress, just the quality isn't there. And their brand is in essence tarnished from a revenue aspect if you're looking to create a high blockbuster quality movie.

2:56That's a good point. Right. And Neil, I don't know if you saw this, but Winnie the Pooh actually became, I think, open or creative comments or whatever it's called exactly. But people could do whatever they wanted with Winnie the Pooh. And so now people are making like really nasty, like I remember seeing something where it's like a Winnie the Pooh horror movie or maybe it's a Barney. Barney the Purple Dinosaur or it's Winnie the Pooh. It's one or the other. But point being, that is affecting the brand, right? People start making sexual stuff and they'll go overboard with this Winnie the Pooh stuff.

3:23I bet you, right? I didn't know that Winnie the Pooh is critic comments, but you start doing that, people do some freaky, weird stuff and it'll start tarnishing the brand for kids. The solution here is, by the way, this is very new. We're all just, this is conjecture right now, but my take on it is it's meeting in the middle. So if it's high quality stuff, if it passes a test and then maybe there's some type of algorithm that says this passes the test, this makes my brand look good, then go ahead, let's do a 50-50. But if it doesn't pass certain criteria that I'm looking for, then that's a no-go.

3:54and you need to take it down. Yes, I think what will happen in the long run, it'll be up to the artist or the creator in which it's up to them if something stays or goes, just like right now. And if something stays and they wanna leave it there, they should have a right to make money because it is their brand, their voice, their face, their image, their likeness, whatever you wanna end up calling it. Yep, so we're gonna continue to look for examples of this, but I think it's exciting. I think these are innovative ways of doing things. And when you add an AI generated versus human generated versus potential for blockchain, smart contracts and all that type of stuff, the future is very exciting.

4:31And so I think we're going to see the content game shift completely and the creative shift completely as well. So that is it for today. And we will see you later.

From the publisher
In episode #2450, Neil and Eric discuss AI-generated music and the recent track that incorporated content from Grimes that went on to be endorsed by the artist in exchange for a percentage of the royalties. They discuss the pros and cons of using AI to create music. Drawing on an example from Hollywood, they also explore the potential career implications of allowing people to use your work to produce poor-quality content. Tune in to find out what is likely to happen in this area going forward and how artists can encourage this kind of creativity while also protecting their brand.  TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: [00:00] Today’s topic: How Grimes Is Shaping The Future of AI-Generated Content [00:06] Background about the AI-generated track that went viral on social media. [00:47] The AI-generated track uses music from the artist Grimes. [01:09] Pros and cons of doing this and thoughts on the quality. [02:08] An example from Hollywood about how poor quality can affect your career. [02:56] Winnie the Pooh as creative commons. [03:33] Finding a meeting point in the middle. [03:55] Speculation about what is likely to happen in this area going forward. [04:16] How we’re likely to see the content game shift in the future as a result of this technology. [04:39] That’s it for today! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Go to https://www.marketingschool.io to learn more! Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: "In Another Life (feat GrimesAI)" Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube! Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with Us:  Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency Twitter @neilpatel  Twitter @ericosiu Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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