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Marketing School Podcast Episode #2795 Summary
Episode Overview Episode Title: How Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman hit $1B box office using this maxim, Do high-end luxury (Chanel, Gucci, etc) stores in airports make money?, and The businessman at bay Hosts: Neil Patel and Eric Siu Episode Description: This episode discusses the marketing tactics behind the significant success of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman's movies, explores the profitability of luxury retail in airports, and delves into resilience in business.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Marketing Success of Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman
- Maxim of Marketing: Citing Arnold Schwarzenegger, the hosts emphasize that marketing is as crucial as creating a quality product. They explore how the duo effectively marketed their films, particularly "Deadpool" and "Wolverine," leading to record box office earnings.
- Social Media Impact: The banter and collaborations between Reynolds and Jackman on platforms like Instagram and TikTok contributed to their movies' virality and audience engagement.
- Profitability of High-End Luxury Stores in Airports
- Misconceptions: Initially assumed to be for branding, the discussion unveils that luxury stores like Chanel and Gucci at airports are indeed profitable due to specific customer demographics.
- Business Travel and Spending Habits:
- High Foot Traffic: Airports attract affluent business travelers who often indulge in last-minute purchases.
- Revenue Statistics: DFS Group (operating luxury retail in airports) reported a 17% organic growth, highlighting the financial success of these stores.
- Psychology of Airport Shoppers: The urgency and emotional factors lead travelers to make impulse buys, contributing to high sales figures.
- The Businessman at Bay
- Navigating Adversity: The conversation shifts to the importance of resilience in business, drawing on lessons from J. Paul Getty's book.
- Personal Stories: Both hosts share anecdotes about facing failures and the stress of managing employees, stressing the emotional weight of leadership.
- Learning from Adversity: They argue that adversity can be a driving force for growth, shaping character and business acumen.
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Key Takeaways
- Marketing is Vital: No matter how good a product is, effective marketing is essential for success.
- Understanding Customer Behavior: Luxury brands thrive in airports due to the unique buying behaviors of affluent travelers.
- Resilience in Business: Facing challenges is inherent in entrepreneurship. Overcoming these challenges can lead to personal and professional growth.
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Conclusion The episode wraps up with a call to action for listeners to subscribe and engage with the Marketing School community, emphasizing the ongoing value of learning in digital marketing.
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Additional Resources
- Neil Patel's Content: [Neil Patel YT](https://www.youtube.com/c/neilpatel)
- Eric Siu's Content: [Leveling UP YT](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9e9FqGmOGYvWj1qzQ9Hh5A)
- Join the Agency Owners Association: [Marketing School Agency](https://www.marketingschool.io/agency)
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00I'm going to talk about how Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman hit 1 billion in box office using this maxim. Did you watch the new Deadpool and Roverine? No, but I heard there's a Honda Odyssey in that bad boy. Do you have a Honda Odyssey? That's what I drive. Oh, I didn't know that. I don't know if that's true. Is that true? Did you watch it? I didn't see it yet. It's a legit car. Okay, well, I'm going to read you this quote. This is from our boy Arnold Schwarzenegger, right? So he says this. He says, whenever I finished filming a movie, I felt my job was only half done. Every film had to be nurtured in the marketplace.
0:34You can have the greatest movie in the world, but if you don't get it out there, if people don't know about it, you have nothing. It's the same with poetry, with painting, with writing, with inventions. It always blew my mind that some of the greatest artists from Michelangelo to Van Gogh never sold much because they didn't know how. They had to rely on some schmuck, some agent or manager or gallery owner to do it for them. Picasso would go into a restaurant and go do a drawing or paint a plate for a meal. Now you go to these restaurants in Madrid and these Picassos are hanging on the walls worth millions of dollars.
1:03That wasn't going to happen to my movies. Same with bodybuilding, same with politics. No matter what I did in life, I was aware that you had to sell it. As Ted Turner said, early to bed, early to rise, work like hell, and advertise. And that's the maximum they took because they were out there advertising the hell out of Deadpool and Wolverine. And it's the highest grossing R-rated film ever. I saw that. And what's funny is on social media like Instagram and TikTok, dude, there's a lot of funny clips of Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds bantering with each other. Because they both have great personalities too, right?
1:40And Ryan Reynolds is a comedian. But Hugh Jackman, he also is funny. People just take him in a more serious role. But he has a fun personality. Yeah, he's talented. He's talented. And when you see him too bicker, it's just entertaining. And you watch it and you like it. And it just starts spreading virally. And they already have a lot of followers. They just keep doing collaborations and it promotes the movie and it just gets you to want to watch it at the end of the day. So I think it's interesting. I mean, Arnold's been doing it. It's like at the end of the day, who cares how good the product is?
2:07You still have to market it. It was funny. I was on a podcast interview today and the Olympics are going on right now. And they said something like, the next Olympics is happening in Los Angeles, Summer Olympics. I was like, yep, I know that. In 2028. they're like all right if you neil were tasked to getting a hundred million extra viewers to the olympics compared to what they have now what would you do and i was like oh this is really simple you got all the major influencers from each country who love their you know country i'm talking about people with like tens of millions of followers yeah you give them access to the game and interviews with people and tell them they need a live stream and i'm like your view count would just blow up through the room you know how much snoop dogg gets paid per day at the olympics No.
2:49500 grand a day. And then he plus like a couple million bucks for some other promotions here and there, but 500 grand per day. And he's put up there at a really nice hotel, but that's the power of an influencer, I guess. And I have no idea what he's doing. I just saw a picture with him with his eyes really like wide open at the Olympics. So who knows? I'm telling you, it would work. If you just use influencer marketing at a mass scale like that, you would just have tons and tons of views and everyone would want to be part of it because all the cool people are quote unquote part of it. So I just came back from Europe, but you know how like when you go to the airports, you see Gucci, you see Chanel, you see all these high-end stores, right?
3:23Yeah. Do you think they make money? I think it's for branding more than anything else. Okay. So do high-end luxury stores at airports such as Chanel and Gucci actually make money? So this tweet over here is from Linus Ekensdam. And he says, the insane thing about these stores, it's the opposite. They make an absurd amount of money. Let's break it down. So I'm looking at this, this other subtweet over here, the original tweet. I rarely see anyone in these high-end stores while at the airport. My guess is they don't make any money. They exist for advertising purposes to your point. Right? So this guy, Linus says, okay, let's break it down.
3:57Business travel is massive too. And this never occurred to me. Like, have you gone to these stores and bought anything for your wife before on the way back? I've never bought anything from any of the stores. The only time I go into the store is if I need medicine or something. And that's not a Gucci store. Dude, as a side note, I forgot to go to that outlet when I was in Florence. But anyway, so number two, the amount of wealthy people traveling for business is extremely high and them picking up a quote unquote gift on their way home or simple splurging on themselves for a fraction of the cost of their flights is common.
4:25How common? DFS groups, the duty-free stores groups. And by the way, there's a side story around that, which I might tell after this. DFS group that operates most of the LVMH retail stores and airports achieved a 17 % organic growth in revenue, reaching 15 billion, it looks like euros, in revenue last year. Total LVMH revenue was euros 80 billion. So number four, the relative high foot traffic makes it extremely easy to get the customer numbers to the correct levels. Even with small amounts of success rate, loads of money will be made. Why? Because a handback made by LVMH will cost 50 to a hundred dollars to produce and retail for anywhere 2 ,500 to 5 ,000 or more.
5:05If you look at the high street flagship stores, they can easily have daily sales numbers that reach close to 750K to a million in daily sales. These are common numbers in Europe. Last part, airports are great places to capture people with guilt that are in a rush and just want to splurge on themselves or someone else. So the psychological pressure and benefits of placing high street brands there makes a lot of sense. And this is interesting because when I was in the Rome airport, oh my God, it's like Laurel Piano was there. Bottega Veneta, right? Like Louis Vuitton, it was all there. And it didn't make any sense to me.
5:36You and I have never shopped at the airport before, But I did see people in the stores, especially my people. So you see a lot of Asians just shopping in the store. It's kind of hilarious to me because in Italy, when I went to the high-end stores in Florence, I was just walking around checking them out. I didn't buy anything, right? But I always notice there's one of my people in there. And I'll walk by and be like, And they'll be like, yeah. So what does that mean? It means speak Chinese. And they'll be like, yeah, right? So in Italy, in some cases where they can't speak English and I can't speak Italian, I just meet in the middle of Chinese but they have a Chinese person planted at every high end store because there's a lot of Chinese tourists that come through you didn't know that I did this in Japan too, same thing and then the Japanese person switched to Chinese and then so for shits and giggles I was walking down Rodeo the other day what did you buy?
6:31nothing, I really didn't buy anything I picked up a suit I bought it the previous week. Oh, okay, okay, okay. But I did technically buy it. It was just the previous week. What brand? Xenia? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not like Zegna? Zegna, I don't know how to pronounce it. Either way, it was the closest store I could find to my home that had my size. I was like, cool, just give me something. Sure. No, seriously. You'd be shocked on how many people don't have my size. Really? Yeah. Oh, anyway. I'm too skinny. I got to take a minute to tell you about the Agency Owners Association. This is a peer group for agency owners think YPO or EO but for agency owners and I just wanted to read you a couple of testimonials So this first one comes from Carrie and we asked her what do you like most about the group?
7:15She said having a group of people to discuss and bounce ideas. The leads are great, too Yes, we share leads in this group as well This one from Allian he says the ability to really post whatever I want and need and the group responds great experience members getting a lot of insights from conversations with other members, getting a lot of value from sessions from Eric, getting advice from others as well. And so if you want to grow your agency faster and you want a peer group to do so, just go to marketingschool.io slash agency. This is a group that both Neil and I created. And our hope here is to create a vibrant community of agency owners and do a lot more with it in the future.
7:48So again, marketingschool.io slash agency, and we'll see you inside. So I'm going down there and as I'm walking, there's a few streets, Beverly, Cannon, they're all closed. and you're seeing these signs for these places for lease. So for shits and giggles, I call one of the numbers. I'm just curious. I was like, how much does it cost for a rent, right? And my buddy's like, why are you doing this? I'm like, I don't know. I just need to know. I can't not do it. So then I call three or four of the signs. One of the ladies is free to meet me up. And she's like, on Canon,$10, no, seven-ish dollars to$10 a square foot, like 10 for retail.
8:25beverly's a little bit more yeah it can be up to 20 um and this is retail ground level not like higher up so 10 on canon roughly up to 20 on beverly and rodeo easily 125 a square foot if not more and i was like what they can make this profitable and she's like oh yeah so then i know some of the people that work at Xenia, Loro Piana, some of the stores. Did you see the new Loro that opened? I was there on the first day. You buy something for me? I don't buy anything. I just went there to see if I get free stuff. I did not get anything for free. Continue. I ended up asking them on some of their numbers because I know some of the managers that run the stores.
9:12When they were breaking down the sales volume and I was like, oh my God, these stores don't just make a little bit of money. They're cash cows. Like you would think, oh, just paying$100 ,000,$200 ,000,$300 ,000,$400 ,000 a month in rent really make money. Some of these stores are doing$300 ,000,$400 ,000 a day in just revenue. You know, Air One, that store, you know their rent is more than$100 ,000 a month. I think it's closer to$200 ,000. Okay. So 2.4 a year. air one doesn't make a hundred thousand dollars a month and and uh in profit they make hundreds of thousands of dollars a month in profit based on the realtor i was talking to and i was like really like yep did the deal i'm like i'm telling you she's like they're making minimum a few hundred thousand dollars a month in profit if not more now food has low margins so you're not going to make a killing compared to some of the other products i eat air one like three times a week so i don't about you i get quite often and then we get it delivered which adds up to the price oh the delivery crushes yeah see i i after these recordings i go to air one after i usually i never venture into the store because it's such a pain in the butt but even the checkout there's a long line i'm like i'm not gonna wait 10 minutes just to check out it's easy to click the uber eats yeah yeah first world problems um not first world problems i think a lot of entrepreneurs get this wrong if you actually could be working during those times you have a better roi just clicking the delivery button.
10:41But people always say, oh, don't wash your dishes. Don't clean your homes because your times were valuable. Well, if you're going to sit there and watch TV, go clean your dishes because it's cheaper to do that than it is to pay someone. The number one challenge for businesses is hiring. And more specifically, the number one thing I get asked for all the time is Eric, where can I go find an amazing marketer? And the reality is right now, when you think about the world, we have inflation that also means wage inflation right now. And it means that when it comes to hiring talent, you can't spend as much as you would have in the last couple of years because it's just become too cost prohibitive.
11:15And so we've partnered with one of the best offshore recruiting firms when it comes to marketing. They've been a great asset for us, and I believe that they will be a great asset for you. All you have to do is go to marketingschool.io slash hire. Again, it's marketingschool.io slash hire to learn more. You can fill out the form there, and we're going to place you with the best marketing hires that we can help you find. I've been continuing to read that book from J. Paul Getty, the How to Be Rich book. So just context again, J. Paul Getty, billionaire. He was the richest guy in the world at the time.
11:46He did the Getty Museum. I think the Getty Images, that's all him at the end of the day. There's a chapter where he talks about the businessman at bay. And I think it might be helpful if we share some stories with people as well. But Neil, how many times have you been close to losing it all with a company? There have been times where you have lost it, right? Yeah, quite a few times. Too many to count, sadly, and just being really honest. I've made a lot of mistakes as an entrepreneur. I've had more of those mistakes earlier on than later on in life. But even later on in life, I've been aggressive, bet too much, where I really feel the pinch.
12:22So this chapter, the businessman at bay means like when you're at bay, your, your back's against the wall. And there are, he spoke about his friend where his loan was going to come due. Um, his one business was tanking. And then he had like, let's say there's, there's like people stealing from him. Right. So he's basically saying like all entrepreneurs, like for example, Ford, he had Henry Ford, when he came out with the Ford, the model T, I think, um, they had a huge headstart for 20 years or so, two decades or so, maybe 27 years. And I don't know if you know this, but the Model T was always in black.
12:54There was no, and then there's like a, you know, crappy transmission and all that. It was a crappy car, right? No, no, no, no. Do you remember the saying? What? You can get the Model T in any color you want as long as it's black. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. So Chevy comes along. You can do any color you want. It's a different, it's like a manual transmission, right? It's a new type of transition. So they start eating Ford's lunch and his whole thing is like, he could like cry about it. Like they're eating into his margins, his profits. He shuts down the factory for a year. It comes back next year stronger than ever.
13:24But it just goes like Steve Jobs, by the way, when he came back to Apple after getting fired from Apple, he had only 90 days to save that company, save that company. Right. And so the point of all this is that adversity really is it's adversity shapes your character and those that can't deal with diversity, they can't treat it like a gift. They crumble, they lose everything. Right. But you've dealt with adversity. I've dealt with a lot of adversity as well. And I don't know about you, but when I feel adversity, I kind of get really pumped up. it energizes me more actually than versus times of peace it's just weird for me are you like that at all?
13:57it energizes me but it's also more stressful at the same time I don't feel stressed from it, it's weird I feel more stressed when times are calm I feel more stressed when I'm in tough positions I have nothing similar to Henry Ford, I never built as big of a company or anywhere near but when things go really bad and you're in a big financial pinch, that's when I'll stress. You don't like it when things are bad. I don't like it when things are bad. I handle the pressure really well. I don't show the stress, but it's more so I'll feel the pinch because as my company grows, the pinches and it becomes much larger, which the stress becomes larger because the shittiest part about a business is when you employ a lot of people, you don't want to let go a lot of people.
14:42It's just a crappy feeling. Yeah, because it's their livelihood. I don't think enough people think about that that's a side thing too when you start a business you're actually dealing with the livelihoods of people if you don't take good care of them you're an asshole their mortgage their family food how are they going to pay their mortgage how are they all going to pay their mortgage what are they going to do for health insurance if some of them are sick and these things come up your kid has cancer and you just lost your job what are you going to do to help them out? And like these times just suck.
15:17And I've been in those situations that I had to let go people because it wasn't working out. And then I had to do side deals with them just because I felt really bad. And I'm like, I know you need insurance. The company, at least when we were starting out, the company couldn't necessarily afford to pay for the insurance, but I personally just covered it. So then that way they would be good. Yeah. The Black Friday Cyber Monday weekend is where systems get stress tested. Traffic surges, inventory moves fast and every second counts. You need a platform built for the moment. That's Shopify, the commerce platform behind millions of businesses and 10 % of all US e-commerce.
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16:27That's shopify.com slash marketing school, go to shopify.com slash marketing school and make this black Friday one to remember. So anyway, going back to the, the businessman at bay piece. And it's great that you, you did that. It's, um, that'll go a long way too. People remember that stuff and they'll come back to you in spades later. It's not like you're trying to get a favor back, but, um, the more good things you do, the more it compounds for the longterm. And, um, it's just easier to be a kind person that we found this over the years. And, um, anyway, that's the businessman at bay. So, um, if adversity comes your way, just know that it's an opportunity to learn and it might be stressful, but it's going to shape you for years to come because without these experiences, we wouldn't have been able to get to, you know, wherever we are now.
17:07All right, guys. So that's it for today's episode. Markingschool.io slash agency. If you want to grow your agency faster, that's our little community. In fact, Neil, do you want to come to the next session next week? Are you in town next week? Depending what time I'm driving home, but yeah. All right, we'll figure it out. So this is when Neil and I will jump in every now and then, every month or so, and we'll have guest speakers and all that. And you have an entire community of people all trying to grow. We're talking seven, eight-figure agency owners, six figures as well. And yeah, that is it for today.
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