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Podcast Episode Summary: Modern Content Marketing Vs. Old Content Marketing
Podcast Details
- Title: Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips
- Hosts: Neil Patel and Eric Siu
- Episode Number: #2617
- Description: Discussion of differences between old and new content marketing strategies, emphasizing audience research and social media.
Key Themes
- Differences Between Old and Modern Content Marketing
- Old Content Marketing:
- Informed by: Keyword research
- Key Distribution Channel: SEO
- Strategic Goal: Keyword ranking and traffic generation
- Content Goal: Satisfy search queries
- Challenges: Dependence on search algorithms
- Value: More objective
- Modern Content Marketing:
- Informed by: Audience research
- Key Distribution Channels: Social media
- Strategic Goals: Affinity, audience growth, sales
- Content Goal: Meet audience needs
- Challenges: Dependence on audience and social media algorithms
- Value: More subjective
- Integration of Both Approaches
- Both classic and modern methods are effective and should be utilized together.
- Successful marketers leverage both SEO and social media to reach their target audience.
- Importance of Multi-Channel Marketing
- Businesses should employ various channels to maximize effectiveness.
- Omnichannel strategy is crucial for scaling marketing efforts and achieving targets.
- Companies often succeed by leveraging all available channels, rather than focusing solely on one.
- Sustaining SEO Efforts
- Search engine optimization remains valuable and is evolving rather than dying.
- Understanding SEO is crucial for marketers, and it continues to yield long-term benefits when done effectively.
Key Takeaways
- Audience Research: Understanding where your audience is and their needs is essential for effective marketing.
- Unique Point of View (POV): Finding a balance between a unique POV, audience needs, and high-volume keywords leads to successful content.
- Content Frequency: Consistently posting quality content (ideally twice a day) can significantly enhance visibility and engagement.
- Systems and Processes: Establishing robust systems and processes is vital for scaling marketing efforts and adapting to algorithm changes.
Conclusion In conclusion, Neil Patel and Eric Siu emphasize that successful content marketing today is about finding harmony between old and new methods. They encourage marketers to remain flexible and leverage multiple channels to grow their audience and achieve their business goals.
Additional Resources
- Blog Mentioned: Rand Fishkin Blog - “The Final Chapter of My First Startup”
- Connect with Hosts:
- [Single Grain](https://www.singlegrain.com) (Eric’s ad agency)
- [NP Digital](https://www.npdigital.com) (Neil’s ad agency)
Feedback and Engagement
- Listeners are encouraged to leave comments and reviews, and to connect with hosts on social media platforms like Twitter.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:01All right. So we're going to talk about the difference between old content marketing and new content marketing. So I'm going to share my screen over here. So there's a nice graphic that we have from Amanda that works at Spark Toro. I don't want to butcher last name, but she's got a, she's a great Twitter follow as well. But Amanda, not, not if that, we'll just go with that. And so classic content marketing versus modern content marketing. So for old content marketing or classic, however you want to call it, it's on the left side over here. So it says classic content marketing is informed by keyword research.
0:35Your key distribution channel is SEO. Your strategic goal is keyword and search rank, and then you're looking for traffic. Content goal, you're trying to satisfy a search query. Challenge is your beholden to search algorithms, and then value is you're more objective than subjective, right? So that's classic or old content marketing. Now, new content marketing, modern content marketing is informed by audience research. So your key distribution channels, social media, your strategic goals are affinity, audience growth, sales, etc. And then your goal is to satisfy the audience's needs. Your challenge is your beholden to audience and social media algorithms.
1:10And your value is it's more subjective than objective. And so we've said this a lot on this podcast before that if we're to start from scratch today, we would not start with SEO. We would actually start with social where there are strong, there's strong organic reach potential. But you can't ignore the classic method. If you look at that table, there was a classic method or in the new modern method. And I don't think that the modern method is better or the classic method is better. They both are still very effective. I don't see the classic method going anywhere, going away anytime soon. baby daddy's on a podcast okay let daddy finish this episode and then you can tell me thank you baby um i think the classic content marketing and the modern is what's effective and in business what you end up seeing is like a lot of people will be like oh partner sales that's an old way to do business i know a lot of companies personally like even in sass i have friends that generate over $100 million of new sales a year, not total ARR, new sales a year just from partner sales.
2:18Like some of these older channels that people take for granted and aren't sexy anymore, they still work. Maybe they don't work as well as they used to, but they still work. Even social media, it doesn't work as well as it used to three, four, or five years ago. But it doesn't mean that you shouldn't leverage social media marketing or SEO or have your content only work for SEO or only work for social media. Leverage each channel to its fullest as long as you can. Remember, something is better than nothing. And that's where I think a lot of people get wrong in their marketing. And this is where I think a lot of big corporations get it right.
2:53Big corporations don't look at it as like, man, SEO is dead or social media algorithms don't work as well organically. Big corporations look at we have this big number or target to hit. What are all the channels we can leverage to hit it and go and figure out a strategy, come up with a game plan and go leverage every single channel that can make us hit these KPIs as long as we can do it in an economical or profitable way. And I think that's the right approach that a lot of startups and midsize businesses get wrong. They look at it like, oh, this is dead. I'm going to focus on this instead. When you really want to scale and get bigger, you got to just accept the channels for what they are and leverage them to the full extent.
3:36And if you're not omnipresence and omnichannel, you're just not going to do as well in the long run. Look, if you want to win in marketing, it doesn't matter if it's an old channel or a new channel. What matters is it works. And if it works, then that's great. And what matters? Well, how do you find a channel that works? Simple marketing one-on-one. Where is your audience actually hanging out in the first place? Do your research upfront and then go market to them. Have good messaging, have good creative, have an amazing offer. It's the same marketing stuff we've been talking about for close to seven years, probably over seven years now on this podcast, right?
4:07And so SEO isn't that we just said in the last episode, it's like, Oh my God, it's dying. It's like, if it like maybe SEO in its current form is dying a slow death, but it's going to evolve, it's going to become a new SEO, right? And so I think right now what's hot is yes, social is hot, but don't ignore the other stuff. A lot of people that like to talk about how social is amazing, usually – well, this is interesting, Neil, because a lot of our – a lot of founder friends that talk to us, a lot of them see SEO as this kind of magical dark art or whatever. And it's like it's really not that bad.
4:40But then we have another set of friends who really understand SEO, and those are the ones that just keep reaping the rewards because it's the gift that keeps on giving even today. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you've got to look at all the channels. You've got to learn them and get good at them. And, yes, a lot of them may seem, you know, this mythical creature like a unicorn, but they're not. You can learn them and you can get good at them. You've just got to be patient and put in the time and the effort. On a random side note, you know, funny enough, on SparkToro, Rand had a good blog post that came out recently.
5:16I think his last – SparkSocial, which we're going to talk about. Oh, you're talking about his book. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, no, the last chapter, and he ended up breaking down what happened at Moz, which is probably worth checking out. And he ended up breaking down at SparkToro. Funny enough, I didn't know this. He raised money from investors, and they were able to pay back all their investors. So good for them. Yeah, and he wrote a great book called Lost and Founder as well. So feel free to check that one out. The last thing I'll call out here is those of you that can see the screen is – so there's this nice graphic here.
5:48And it's a Venn diagram. So on the top circle, it says your unique POV. And then the bottom left circle says your audience's needs. And then the bottom right says high volume keywords. And so basically, if you can find the intersection of all of these, where you have a unique point of view, and you understand your audience's needs, and it has, there's intent, or there's volume, sorry, behind the whatever the person's looking for, that's where you're going to find the sweet spot with your content marketing. Now, if you want really good content marketing nowadays, just have unique point of view and understand your audience's needs and then just keep posting a lot.
6:23We're talking not even once a day. If you can afford to do it, maybe twice a day or more on these channels, that's what we've seen. We've seen this creator, Matt Gray. He's a mutual friend of ours. He's continued to rise through the ranks on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram just by posting twice or more per day. And he's got his unique point of view because he talks about systems and processes and all that. So that is it for today. Please don't forget to rate, view, subscribe, and we'll see you tomorrow. And don't forget to check out. One quick thing. Eric just mentioned systems and processes.
6:54I was at an event yesterday, and it's so funny. In marketing, it's not a lot of mythical stuff. It really comes down to standard business operations. It's about systems and processes. And once you find something that works, figure out what are the exact steps that people need to take to replicate that and create that playbook and have your team just rinse and repeat and continually adjust the playbook and the systems and processes as algorithms adjust. But that's how you scale marketing and make it work for what other channels there may be or whatever algorithm updates there may be. And if you don't have the systems and processes down, sure, you can make money, but it's really hard to scale.
7:35Actually, I have one more thing to add here. So this Venn diagram over here, think about how we're doing this YouTube video or this podcast right now. So it is our unique points of view. It's two people, right? We're trying to understand our audience's needs. And we're also trying to cover certain keywords or interests as well. And we're publishing, we think YouTube's the best way for discoverability on podcasts. And so that's why we're publishing this to YouTube. And this is our new way of doing content marketing, but it also is kind of the old way too, because YouTube is also SEO as well. So that's kind of the meta lesson here.
8:07So again, don't forget to rate, read, subscribe, and you can check out the next video to get better at marketing over here somewhere. And we'll see you tomorrow.

