Secret Marketing Statistics To Arm You for 2024 (Millions of Data Points) (Trends)

5 Jan 2024 · 18 min

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Podcast Summary: Marketing School - Episode #2652

Episode Title

Secret Marketing Statistics To Arm You for 2024 (Millions of Data Points)

Podcast Hosts

  • Neil Patel
  • Eric Siu

Episode Overview

In this episode, Neil and Eric dive into the evolving landscape of organic social media reach, drawing insights from an analysis of 15,000 social media profiles over the last three years. They discuss significant trends, such as the decline of organic reach, the impact of content type, and strategies for effective engagement in 2024.

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Key Insights and Discussions

Decline in Organic Reach

  • Organic Reach Decline:
  • Overall organic reach has decreased by 61.83% over the last three years.
  • Linking out to external sites decreases reach by 219%, compared to 74.51% three years ago. Platforms are prioritizing keeping users on their own sites.

Impact of Content Types

  • Short-Form Videos:
  • Content with short-form videos has 32.18% more reach.
  • The average length of short-form videos has increased from 13 seconds to 44 seconds.
  • Posting Frequency:
  • Profiles that post 1-2 times a day achieve the most reach, as opposed to those posting 3+ times.

Engagement Metrics

  • Comment Quality vs. Quantity:
  • The quality of comments is becoming more important for engagement than the sheer number. Historically, posts with 10+ comments had a 285.32% engagement boost, which has now dropped to 194.26%.

Importance of Quality Content

  • Content Creation:
  • High-quality content remains essential for social media success. Neil emphasizes that patience and consistency are crucial for achieving results.

Brand Ambassadors and Influencer Marketing

  • Training Employees:
  • Cisco is training 83,000 employees to become LinkedIn influencers to leverage organic reach while it lasts.
  • In-House Brand Ambassadors:
  • The trend of having employees as brand ambassadors is expected to grow, as companies seek to capitalize on organic engagement.

Active Social Networks and Traffic Generation

  • Most Active Users:
  • Facebook tops the list with 3 billion active users, followed by YouTube (2.49 billion) and Instagram (2 billion).
  • Organic Traffic Leaders:
  • YouTube drives the most organic traffic with 1.59 million monthly visits, significantly outperforming platforms like Instagram and TikTok.

Predictions for Future Strategies

  • Betting on Social Channels:
  • Eric suggests focusing on X (formerly Twitter) for its potential freedom from bureaucratic constraints, while Neil strongly supports Meta (Facebook and Instagram) for its robust revenue generation and expansive reach.

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Key Takeaways

  • Adaptation Required: Marketers must adapt to the declining organic reach and focus on creating high-quality, engaging content.
  • Engagement Over Quantity: Quality of engagement (comments and interactions) is becoming more critical as algorithms evolve.
  • Consistency is Key: Success in social media marketing requires consistent posting and patience to see results over time.
  • Leveraging Employee Influence: Companies should consider training employees to amplify their brand presence on social networks.

Conclusion The episode emphasizes the importance of understanding the changing dynamics of social media engagement and the need for businesses to pivot their strategies towards creating quality content and utilizing their workforce as brand ambassadors.

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Additional Notes

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0:01So today we have a lot of data and trends to end up sharing with you. One of the first ones we wanted to share is about social media organic reach. So what we ended up doing is we analyzed 15 ,000 social media profiles over the last three years to see what's changing with organic social media reach. And here's some crazy things that we ended up learning, Eric. I'll share them with you. Actually, I should just share my screen. Let's see. Share screen. All right. So the first one was linking out to external site. On average, decreases reach by 219%. While three years ago, it only used to decrease reach by 74.51%.

0:51In other words, they're really trying to keep you on their own platform these days. This is all socials? All socials, yeah. And then keep in mind like with Instagram and TikTok, some of them you can't really link out. So it's taking the organic reach from all of them, but not all platforms were used for each and every single point. Content containing short form videos on average have 32.18 % more reach. Three years ago, it was 54.77. Back then, they were trying to push short form videos more than they are now. It's still super popular. Short form videos on average were 13 seconds long. Keep in mind back then, a lot of the platforms will allow you 15 second videos.

1:33Now some of the platforms limit you to a minute, some even more than a minute. Now they're averaging 44 seconds long. Three years ago, social posts with 10 or more comments had 285.32 % more engagement. Now social posts with 10 or more comments have 194.26 % more engagement. So it's just showing that comments, yes, they're still important, but they're probably, from what we're seeing, nitpicking the comment quality i remember when i used to post videos on youtube back in the day and i used to ask people just leave a yes or no comment it would help with my reach now they just look at those junk comments organic reach has declined by roughly 61.83 over the last three years profiles that post one to two times a day on average see the most reach while three years ago profiles that posted three plus times a day saw the most reach and that's largely because of the next point both three years ago and today posting low quality content doesn't get engagement and it hurts the overall organic reach of your content and this is why we think you people who are posting only one to two times a day do better is because it's hard to create super amazing content three four times a day while one two times sure it's not it's still hard but it's not that hard compared to consistently cranking out three or four pieces of amazing quality content each and every single day um go ahead no i was just saying look i think at the end of the day and you're kind of getting to this it's just like just go out there focus on creating the best piece of content you can create like these numbers are helpful but at the end of the day it's like these this is death by a thousand paper cuts i think too many people focus on like these paper cut things that don't ultimately drive the top line you know impressions yeah and dude i remember when i used to respond to every single comment back in the day, did on my blog, social profiles, when people respond to all their comments on social posts, they see a 12.74 % increase in reach three years ago, 39.57, almost 40%.

3:42So they're valuing that less and less compared to what they used to value before. And we're seeing reach decline on all major platforms. And it's funny because people are like, man, should we still leverage social media and focus on organic reach? And I was like, something's better than nothing you know it's just like why wouldn't you want to uh just like use it for what it is and we both have that philosophy whether seo is harder social media is harder whether something drives you more traffic or less traffic just be grateful you have that channel and use it for what it is yeah and by the way like attention is spreading more and more there's there's these a lot a lot i mean there's a lot of channels now like back in the day maybe 10 years ago there weren't as many channels so there's there's more attention that was like allocated to those.

4:27Now it's spreading out more and now more people are going on the channel. And kind of similar to this topic, Neil, did you read about how Cisco was trained? They're training 83 ,000 LinkedIn influencers. They're basically training their employees. Wow. That's crazy. I didn't know that. Yeah. And what are they doing? They're just trying to make the most, they know organic reach is not going to be there forever, but while they still have it, if they can build the ultimate company of LinkedIn influencers, they're going to grow their market share, right like how big sir how big are they right now what's their cisco stock oh it's it's 100 200 billion 203 billion yep it's a it's a massive company um when and the last time i was looking at the financials they do somewhere around 10 billion a year in profit not revenue profit dude check this out here look so let me share my screen real quick you see this okay so here's what it says here's the headline just goes training it's 84 000 employees to be linkedin influencers just wanted to social 2024 predictions i also predicted in-house brand ambassadors are going to be huge what are other companies already doing this well so you know what i mean like i think we're going to see more of this um are you think like but wait wait check this out so we used to do this back in the day at np digital right because like we don't have tons of employees, but we have enough.

5:48I think we're getting close to around 800 or so. My guess is it'll be a thousand plus by the end of next year. So when you think about that, that's enough to get social traction. And we used to have employees that put it on our teams like, hey, go there, click, like, comment, et cetera, as well as post content and engage. When they post stuff out there on their own profiles and being their own brand ambassadors, great, it has some traction. When you start having too many people within the same company uh you know like share comment on a post uh the algorithms are picking up they're seeing a trend of the same people yeah you know it's like social media rings and they're seeing it like back in the days and it doesn't work as well if you keep doing it with the same people programmatically it's not hard to figure out Who are the same people that keep posting on your shit?

6:43And like I like test out these engagement groups. And I see like the same people, the same people over and over. And it's like, dude, I don't see them getting as much crazy reach anymore. Like maybe a year ago, I would message my friend. Right. And he had like a lot of followers. He had like 600 ,000. Anytime he just liked my thing, it would just blow up. Right. And then now that doesn't happen anymore. Dude. And all these people have on their profile that they work for the company. So it's like it's not hard to figure out that everyone in that company are helping each other to get more traffic.

7:14Yeah. You know, when I talked to Chris Doe, he's got like a nice YouTube following, a nice Instagram following. And, you know, whenever he posts to LinkedIn, he might get like a couple hundred, 500, 1 ,000 likes or so. And he just shoots from the hip. I'm like, you don't do any engagement groups? And he's like, I don't do anything, any of that. He's like, I just, whenever I feel emotional about something, I'm just going to write in on LinkedIn. And that's when it feels emotionally charged. and that's when it does really well because there's a point of view. But it just goes back again to creating the best piece of content that you can create.

7:43And the other thing too that's kind of tied to this, Neil, we talked about this yesterday actually, but my friend Matt Paulson posted something to Twitter and then he was like, yeah, you know, the people with impressive businesses aren't spending time talking about tweeting. They're not talking about buying like ice picking businesses or whatever it is. Like they spend the most of their time and I just doubled down. And I was like, yeah, they probably spend 90 plus percent of their time on the business. Maybe 10 % just creating something really good and going back to the business, which is what like you talked about it yesterday.

8:13Like you're spending a lot of time on strategy. I've been, I've been like on overdrive right now on the business. So I don't know how much more time I can put on content. Yeah. Here's another interesting, some data points that we have when it comes to social media and check this out. You see my screen. So we wanted to look at which social networks have the most active users and how much organic traffic. Keep in mind, we have a lot of analytics data for over a million sites, but we analyzed 9 ,488 sites because we're looking for the ones that were consistently getting good traffic to see which social sites drives the most non-paid organic social traffic, right?

8:55And if you look from an active social network standpoint, you can see this. Facebook has 3 billion, YouTube 2.49, Instagram 2 billion, TikTok 1.2 billion, X 666 million, Pinterest 465 million, LinkedIn 310 million active users. But if we looked at which ones are driving the most organic traffic and keep in mind, Instagram and TikTok, it's hard to link out to websites. You can tell people to swipe up or your bio. But YouTube, 1 ,594 monthly visits. LinkedIn, 1 ,007 monthly visits. Pinterest, 877 monthly visits. X, 659 monthly visitors. Facebook, 385 monthly visitors. Instagram, 104. TikTok, 53.

9:42And I did mention how it's hard to get more traffic from TikTok and Instagram. but the data above just shows just because a website is popular, it doesn't mean that you should just solely only focus on that. If you're trying to get visitors to your website and get conversions. Now this doesn't take into account that if you get a lot of reach on Instagram, you're growing your brand and then people just may go directly to your website, which is hard to attribute, right? Unless you're doing things like brand recall studies or asking people where they first learned about you. But people have this misconception just because Facebook is the largest social network, you can get the most traffic.

10:22From paid ads, definitely. It's also one of the most expensive. But from an aspect of getting visitors to your website organically, some social networks just don't want people to leave their platform. Similar to this topic, if you were to bet on one social channel for the next decade, one only, what would it be? X. Okay, why? I don't think they have the bureaucracy that most of the companies have. And they can do whatever they want. And it's not about earnings. Oh, sorry. So let me rephrase this. As a marketer, which channel would you bet? So you're talking about X as a company, not as like the channel you would focus on.

11:01If you're to focus on one channel, what would it be for the next decade? Meta. Okay, interesting. Why meta? They have the biggest reach. Ads are super profitable. and they haven't monetized WhatsApp yet. Once they do with the SMS and texting and all that, I think it'll open up a lot of doors. But, you know, dude, you have agency. When you try to get volume from any channel, Meta just drives the most revenue. I'm not saying it's the most profitable from a ROAS standpoint, but if you just look at total revenue and total EBITDA, it beats all the other social networks when you just combine all their property and you run ads on there.

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14:08We ideally Eric and I, not even ideally, both of us actually focus on most of the major social networks. We don't really focus on like the snapchats on the Pinterest, but we pick the big ones, right? Facebook, Instagram, Tik TOK, YouTube, LinkedIn, and X. So those are the six that I really focus on. And I think for you, Eric, it's the same six. And yes. And the separate thing I would say here, for those of you that are trying to grow on these platforms, you know, you don't look at the comments, but like I look, cause we restarted this channel on YouTube and I look at the comments and a lot of the comments are just, wow, this is so good.

14:42I don't know why this isn't getting more views. Wow. How does this channel not have more subscribers? Blah, blah, blah. Right. When you start getting comments like that, when you're putting out content, that means your content is good. As long as you keep going for two, three, four years or whatever, then you know that you're going to compound. And that is the unsolicited response rate you're looking for. So that's more of a side thing that I would call out for whatever channel that is that you're trying to grow on. Yep. No, totally. And at the end of the day, Eric and I are big believers of omni-channel marketing.

15:11We've talked about this. And when you're leveraging omni-channel marketing, especially on social media, others may disagree. but Eric and I have ran a lot of tests. A lot of times you just have to be patient and keep cranking out good content. And then you see a lot of views. And Eric and I were talking yesterday, check out Patrick Campbell's channel on YouTube. He wasn't getting tons of views, but now he has. The content quality hasn't changed. His format hasn't changed. It's just the algorithms now favor him while they didn't favor him before. You just have to be consistent and patient. and that's the thing that most marketers are not they're not patient and they don't continually push out the content and push out marketing when they're not getting results they just give up instead of going for six months one year and then like oh now i'm seeing the results i'm like yeah you just got to really put in the time yeah and the final thing i'll say before we get out of here is um i'll share a little more details on the patrick campbell story just so everyone's aware so patrick campbell he sold a company called profit well did well for 200 250 million or something like that.

16:15And he decided he wanted to get into content creation. And basically around September of 2022, you can look at his YouTube channel and he was posting these high quality, these high quality shorts on YouTube shorts. He'll post on TikTok, Instagram reels as well, but it would be like a whiteboard video where he's like opening up a whiteboard and he's talking about, Hey, this happened in world war two. And then this company became a billion dollar company. So it was good storytelling as well produced. He was spending a good chunk of money each month on it, but, and he's posting every single day. The catch is this.

16:44He was getting like a hundred, 200 views. And to put in that amount of time to not get anything, one month goes by two months goes by three, four, five, six, seven, eight months go by before he gets anything. But then something starts to happen. The YouTube starts to give him more play. And then now I was looking at his channel yesterday, last video, 1 million views. His high point video was like 11 million views or so and he's gone from basically zero to 150k subscribers because he knew the game as long as he kept putting out content he knew that the algorithms would eventually have to give him reach yep well that's it for this episode give us a five-star rating we really appreciate it we hope you guys have a wonderful day

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In episode #2652, we delve into the evolving landscape of organic social media reach. Analyzing data from 15,000 social media profiles over the past three years, we uncover key insights. Our discussion covers the decline in organic reach, the impact of linking out to external sites, the importance of short-form videos, the role of comments, and the optimal posting frequency. Additionally, we explore the value of brand ambassadors and the potential of LinkedIn influencers. The conversation concludes with an examination of the most active social networks and those that drive the most organic traffic.   Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube!   Check out more of Eric’s content (Leveling UP YT) and Neil’s videos (Neil Patel YT)    TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: (00:00) Today’s topic: Secret Marketing Statistics To Arm You for 2024 (Millions of Data Points) (Trends) (00:30) Linking out to external sites decreases reach by 219% (01:27) Content with short form videos has 32.18% more reach (02:20) Organic reach has declined by 61.83% in the last three years (03:06) Profiles that post 1-2 times a day see the most reach (04:15) Comment quality is more important for engagement than quantity (06:39) Cisco is training employees to be LinkedIn influencers (07:39) Creating high-quality content is key for social media success (08:49) Facebook has the most active users, but YouTube drives the most organic traffic (10:17) Some social networks don't want users to leave their platform (11:07) Betting on Meta (formerly Facebook) as the top social channel for the next decade (11:04) Neil Patel explains why he focuses on Meta. (11:40) Eric Siu agrees that Meta is great for revenue. (12:21) Neil and Eric focus on major social networks. (12:55) Neil emphasizes the importance of patience in content marketing. (13:55) Neil shares the success story of Patrick Campbell's YouTube channel. (15:11) That’s it for today! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Go to https://www.marketingschool.io to learn more!   Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review.   Connect with Us:    Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel  X @ericosiu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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