Why Corporate Jobs Are Quietly Collapsing

0:00By the way, this one's interesting to me. So this is the death of the corporate job. So get this. The most honest person I met recently was a VP at a tech company who told me, I manage a team of 12 people who create documents for other teams who create documents for senior leadership who don't read documents. I make 150 pounds a year, 150K pounds a year, okay? So let's call that like 180, something like that, right? It's completely absurd. And I'm writing it as long as I can while I'm building something on the side. So this is a Substack post and it's called the Hidden Economy of Nonsense. And I literally, I met a friend recently who works at a large multi-trillion dollar company, right?

0:35And he's, I'm like, so what do you do there now? He's like, oh yeah, like I go into meetings and I make sure that everyone's connected and they know they're aligned. And then I go into other meetings and he's like, I'm like, you sit in meetings all day to make sure people are aligned. He's like, that's my job. And I'm like, oh my God. So this person's posting this. I'm like, man, the death of the corporate job. There's a lot of nonsense going on. There is, especially bigger companies. because they're making over$200 ,000 a year for creating documents for, you lost me here, creating documents for someone else?

1:05Sure, I'll read it again. So I manage a team of 12 people. This is a VP at a company, at a tech company. I manage a team of 12 people. All 12 of these people create documents for other teams who create documents for senior leadership who don't read the documents. And this team leader gets paid, let's call it 180 ,000 US dollars a year. No, 200 plus. 200 plus? I don't even know what the pound is, the exchanges now. I know this because I have - You look at it? No, I have corporations in so many countries. Yeah, 202 ,000 as of today. Wow. Yeah. Wow. When you have all the offices in different countries, you have to manage money because when things go up and down, it can cost you money.

1:41That's why I know my currency. There's a whole treasury strategy I'm sure you have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But 200 ,000 a year to create documents for another department who uses that to create more documents. For senior leadership who doesn't read the documents. Do this straight up. You know when my team, they don't send me documents anymore. Because you want to know why? I don't read the documents. So you know what they send me instead? Text messages. Text messages with stats and data of our business. And I'm like, I don't want the fluff. Because they just waste their time creating. You can get other stuff done.

2:11Dude, I had someone on my team. She made, and bless her heart, she made a 22-page slide. I'm like, dude, I'm not going to read that, man. So to your point, if executives only have time to get to the point, This is a whole other thing, but I do believe the death of the corporate job, a lot of these jobs are going to get replaced. Again, we looked at the avalanche of layoffs happening. Again, we talked about Accenture. We talked about Salesforce. We talked about all these companies. It's all starting now. You saw the ADP jobs report, right? This is yesterday, right? I missed it. What happened? It was either yesterday or the day before.

2:40I think it was bad, right? I think two days ago. ADP, they announced a 30 ,000 job decrease. They only managed the private sector. Yeah. Right? Not the government. And now we have to wait a little for the government one. Yes. But if you look at the revision that the government released, they also released a negative for the previous month. Down a million? Didn't they say it was down a million? Remember? Jobs? There was a revision over like the last year or something like that. It was revised down a million net. No, I was just talking about the previous month. Oh, yeah, yeah. Right? And what you're seeing is I prefer looking at the ADP numbers over government numbers because I think it's more real time and more accurate.

3:20That's just my two cents. You can also game the government numbers too, which is why they revise it all the time. What are they considered unemployed? Oh, you stopped looking for a job after X amount of time. So you're out of the system. It's like, well, some of them are still looking for jobs. But yeah, I don't even know where we're going with this conversation. It's okay. I got a good one here. We can end on this one. So bullshit business advice. So this is something we can share off the cuff here. So you and I have heard a lot of advice over the years. I think you're generally more skeptical of people where I've been more optimistic and more believing of people in the past.

3:50So I'll give you an example. So let's talk about some bullshit business advice. One, hire an operator and get out of their way. Literally someone tweeted this the other day. And I was like, yeah, you know, the best way to make money right now is to start a holding company and buy a bunch of businesses and just hire a CEO and get out of their way. Buy a bunch of boring businesses. And then one of my friends, YPR, he's like, God, this guy's an idiot. Like he replies, he replies, this guy. I'm like, yeah, like I used to drink the Kool-Aid where he's like, yeah, you can just hire these people. They're more experienced to you and then get out of their way.

4:18Yep. You and I have both felt the pain. Yes. Yeah. And you also have to look at some of these experienced people. Someone yesterday was talking to me about one of their friends working out one of the big holdcos. It was either Omnicom or IPG, but they're merging anyway, so it doesn't matter. And this person is a CEO of, you know, a big division. When I say a big division, I'm talking about billions and billions and billions in revenue. And if you look at their background, they're a financial person. They used to be in all financial roles and now they're an operator. I'm not saying they're not good at their job.

4:54There's a lot of CFOs or financial people that go into CEO roles. But would I put a financial person in a CEO role? No, that's just me. I'm not saying I'm right. Omnicom and IPG are bigger companies than my own business. But I would definitely be micromanaging that person and giving them ideas because a lot of these people have worked at other organizations, have a different way of running things. And some of them are great at quote unquote maintaining or just cutting costs. They have different strengths and weaknesses. And no matter who you hire, they're going to have some weaknesses. I don't care what their experience is.

5:29You got to fill in those weaknesses. So you got to be involved. The CEO, by the way, one of the CEO's jobs is to be the keeper of the vision. And oftentimes, unfortunately, the vision, if you come from a financial background, your vision is numbers, right? And your vision is optimizing for efficiency. If that's what you're looking for, that's fine. But if you're optimizing for creativity and growth, you're going to have to probably have someone else. And you mentioned a key word here. So this is number two bullshit advice. And I'm keen to get what else you have in terms of bullshit business advice.

5:54Micromanagement is bad. I used to think like when I, cause you've never worked for somewhere, right? Like, at least not really. When I worked for a company, it's like, oh yeah, you read all these books. Like, yeah, you know, micromanagement is horrible. We don't micromanage here, blah, blah, blah. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. Micromanagement is actually not a bad thing. It's not good or bad. It's just a tool. Like if it's, if like, you know, your kids are responsible for the nuclear codes, you probably want to micromanage that, right? It's too risky, right? So micromanage is not bad, guys. It's just a tool.

6:21That's the second one. Yeah, you already know I like micromanaging. But I pick and choose. And I'll give you an example with my CEO, Mike Gullickson. He and our CFO, Paul, report on financials and they'll talk about projections and what happens if you lose a client or gain a client. And when they talk about half the stuff and send me those emails, I ignore most of them. I don't pay attention. Why? Because they know the numbers like the back of their hand. And when they say in the email, it was a good month and we're ahead of forecast on X, Y, and Z. I just ignore the rest of the email. You chewed out the rest.

6:54But if it's bad, you're like, oh. Yeah. So when it's bad, I mean like, and I start diving into the numbers because they send the numbers. And I look at division by division, country by country. I'm like, where was it bad? Why? They have their summary. and instead of reading their summary, I just skip to the data and I draw my own conclusions. Then I read their own summary and I try to see if there's any differences. The reason I skip their summary is because I don't want their summary to affect what I think is wrong or messed up. So I want to look at it with like a clean slate with no preconceived notions of why something went wrong.

7:33And then I'll look at their summary because sometimes I may see something that they don't or they'll see something that I don't. And then I'll get in the weeds and I'll work with them. But I don't believe in micromanaging where someone's better than you, but I do believe in micromanaging where someone has a weakness and you can help them in that area. Yeah, or if you see something they don't see. And so my take on it, this goes back to number one, hire an operator and get out of their way. So my new CEO was like, so in a year or two, you're gonna not be as involved. I'm like, no, no, no. I'm gonna be involved the whole time.

8:02And I think she was trying to get to like, Like, oh, I'm going to let go. I'm like, look, if I see anything that's broken or it's big, I'm going to jump in. And you're going to get a lot of leverage from that. I just want you to know that I'm not backing out at all, right? I've tried that like four or five times. It doesn't work. Yeah. Last one here. When I first started my business, the overwhelm was real. I didn't have the tools to help me scale. If only I had Shopify from the start to handle all the behind the scenes work. Shopify is the platform behind millions of businesses globally from huge names like Mattel and Gymshark to the smallest brands just getting started.

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10:44And then, oh, come back, and now you're feeling it all over again. For people like Eric and I, and we're not saying this is wrong or right, If something's going wrong and we go on a vacation, all we're thinking about is what's going wrong and how to fix it. So we don't really enjoy a vacation. And I remember my wife told me, you know, the first time we were in Hawaii, we had such a wonderful time. This is when we were dating. And then the second time we were in Hawaii, she's like, it wasn't as good. You weren't there mentally. And I'm like, yeah, because my business had a lot of fires that I had to put out.

11:17So I couldn't think about anything. And I was like, the first time we were dating, I was having not just a good week or a month, but I was having a good year in business. So there really wasn't tons of fires to put out. So I could focus on her and having fun in Hawaii. And I would still work each day. But the work was crammed down to maybe like three, four hours in a day versus like 10 or 12. Oh, yeah, you weren't there at all. So then the second time I was like, dude, I was working like 12 hours. And I was like, she's like, oh, I set this. And I'm like, cool. So when's it going to be done? When do we have to leave?

11:49And then when I was there, I was on my phone working all the time. And she's like, what's wrong? And I'm like, oh, business isn't performing well. Don't want to bore you with the details. I got to fix problems. Yeah. Look, do you have any other bullshit business advice that comes to mind? Those are just three top of my head. The riches are in the niches. I've heard that advice too many times. I've never seen anyone get wealthy off of a niche. Yeah. Maybe you start in one. Start and then you can expand. But some people just get into too many like small niches. like someone tried selling me a business one time and they got pissed off that I didn't buy it.

12:21It was on best man speeches. And I'm like, too much of a niche. I don't know how you expand that out into a non-niche. You know, bride made, I don't know what it's called on the other side. And by the way, there's nothing wrong. If you don't want to scale it, it's okay. But if you want to scale it, the total address will mark it matters. Yes. And with some niches, people believe like, oh, I'll start with a niche and then yeah, I'll scale it out to be not in a niche. but some things like a best man's speech, that's too hard to get out of a niche. Even if you do the bridesmaids versions, what are you going to do next?

12:53So bar mitzvah speeches, you know, like... Funeral speeches. Funeral speeches. You can start picking them, but they're all niches and they're too small when you add it all up. It still doesn't make enough money. Yeah. And the demand's not quite there for those either. No, it's not. Yeah. That's funny. All right. So that's it for today, guys. And we'll see you tomorrow. Thank you.