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Podcast Information Title: Marketing School - Digital Marketing and Online Marketing Tips Hosts: Neil Patel and Eric Siu Episode Title: Yeezy $0 Production Spend on Super Bowl Ad to Make $19.7M, Super Bowl Ad or MrBeast Ad?, Microsoft, OpenAI, Google, and Others Agree to Combat Election-Related Deepfakes Episode Number: #2683 Episode Date: [Insert Date Here] Listen Here: [Marketing School Podcast](https://www.marketingschool.io)
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Episode Summary In this episode, Neil Patel and Eric Siu discuss the rising costs and effectiveness of Super Bowl advertisements, the growing issue of deepfake technology and its implications for elections, and various marketing strategies for businesses.
Key Topics Discussed
- Super Bowl Ads: Branding vs. ROI
- Super Bowl ads are primarily targeted for branding rather than return on investment (ROI).
- Marketers often spend on these ads for "religious reasons" rather than data-driven decisions.
- The astronomical costs of Super Bowl ads (around $7 million per spot) and additional spending on creative content and celebrity endorsements are discussed.
- High Production vs. High ROI
- High-quality production is not a prerequisite for high ROI.
- Many successful marketing campaigns utilize low-production-cost content, leveraging social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram.
- Kanye West's Super Bowl Strategy
- Discussion on Kanye West's $7 million Super Bowl ad, which generated significant revenue (reported $19 million).
- The unconventional approach of using a simple, off-the-cuff recording for the ad is highlighted.
- The Deepfake Dilemma
- Multiple tech companies (Microsoft, OpenAI, Google) are collaborating to combat election-related deepfakes.
- A specific case is mentioned where a company lost $25 million due to a deepfake scam, emphasizing the need for better security measures in businesses.
- Internal Security and Cyber Insurance
- Importance of having an internal security team and the option of consulting outside security firms as businesses scale.
- Discussion on cyber insurance to protect against cyber theft and scams.
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Key Takeaways
- Super Bowl Ads:
- Primarily for branding, but ROI is often questionable.
- Alternatives like Facebook and TikTok may provide better ROI with more targeted reach.
- Deepfake Technology:
- Poses a significant threat to electoral integrity and business security.
- Need for increased vigilance and protective measures against scams and misinformation.
- Content Production:
- High engagement can be achieved with lower production values.
- User-generated content (UGC) is proving successful in today's digital landscape.
- Security Measures:
- Organizations should employ both internal teams and external consultants for cybersecurity.
- Cyber insurance is a crucial step in safeguarding against financial losses from cyber incidents.
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Conclusion The episode provides valuable insights into the current landscape of digital marketing, particularly around high-profile advertising events like the Super Bowl and the emerging challenges posed by technology such as deepfakes. Marketers are encouraged to rethink traditional strategies in favor of data-driven, ROI-focused methods that leverage the evolving digital landscape.
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Action Items
- Consider alternative advertising channels for better ROI compared to traditional high-cost options like Super Bowl ads.
- Review and enhance internal security measures to protect against deepfake and cyber threats.
- Explore the potential of low-production content strategies for effective audience engagement.
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Feedback Listeners are encouraged to leave feedback or suggest topics for future episodes via comments or reviews.
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For more insights, check out [Eric’s content (Leveling UP YT)](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaJ8w7IQe7V1Be9V7K3F1Zg) and [Neil’s videos (Neil Patel YT)](https://www.youtube.com/user/neilvkpatel).
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Dude, did you see the, so people are talking about the Superbowl passed like a week ago or so. and basically, so Super Bowl 58 was the most watched television show ever with 123 million viewers. And so this guy tweets Adam Singer. He says, Mr. Beast has 2x the number of YouTube subscribers and his videos, which he publishes weekly, greatly surpasses these numbers. The only reason marketers spend so much on ads here are for religious reasons. Our sector claims it's data-driven, but mostly it isn't. No one talks about any of this. Let's react to this. Wait, he's saying the only reason marketers spend money on Super Bowl is because of religion?
0:35Religious reason, meaning that people are tied to like, oh, you should spend money on Super Bowl ads. That's what it means. But not religion like... Not religion, not like, you know, not this religion. Not like praying religion. No, yeah, yeah. I look at it as a time of the year for marketers to showcase their work and get awards for it. It's not about ROI. I agree with this person. I don't know who ended up saying this, but... Adam Singer. Yeah, dude, I ended up releasing a tweet about the Super Bowl because people are wasting like$233 ,000 a second ends up being roughly$7 million a commercial.
1:10And then from there, you're going to end up spending at least$7 more million on ad buys because this is Olympic year. And typically they try to get you to buy a spot there. 2020 got pushed to 2021 and 2024 back to normal. Yes. And then they try to get you to buy spots for let's say the Olympics or whatever, what other events that they may have going on. So if you're spending seven for the Super Bowl, They want you to buy$14 million in ad spots. You have to spend like 20 plus and not even into the creative. The creative isn't that expensive. Production for most of these commercials, you can do for under a million bucks.
1:48The expensive part of the commercial is paying the celebrities. So if you add that in, maybe you spend another seven. All in, like you said, you're spending$21 million. So you think about that. Is there a great ROI? No. Is there a great branding? Yes. but you're better off getting your branding from Facebook ads, TikTok ads, Google ads. And by the way, they also produce a higher ROI. I would also do CTV, you know, and these channels are more trackable and you can burn way less money to get that revenue generation and get as much brand awareness. Yeah, I just think if you're going to spend on something, if you have money on, if you're going to spend on traditional, the Super Bowl is the place to do it.
2:29and it's hard to find a place where you're going to get 100 million eyeballs. Here's the other thing. When people go to the Super Bowl, a lot of people are going there to do business. It's like a giant conference now because it's become so corporate, which is fine. It's still a valuable thing to do. I'm not saying Mr. Beast is bad or anything. It's just a different type of viewer and a different type of mindset too. Speaking of which, the Kanye, he spent$7 million on a Super Bowl ad and he just recorded, did you see the ad? He just recorded a thing. he's like yo just go over here and then like what 250 ,000 purchases I think it was 19 million in revenue some people are saying 19 million in profit did you see that?
3:08I don't know if it was profit let's say revenue still good yes but then he charged so much lower for his products he then had to email everyone else or he put out a statement saying if you paid like 200 bucks for this product and now it's 20 just shoot a note to x, y, and z email and we'll refund the difference Yeah. But the fact that like he had the guts to just record like that off the cuff, it's like, that's pretty cool. You know, but also that's like years and years of building your brand. Not just years and years of building your brand. Us as consumers, we're used to it. If you look at TikTok and Instagram and YouTube shorts.
3:44It's UGC. Yes. And a lot of people are just busting out their phone talking and then it's producing a high ROI. And I released a tweet about this maybe less than a month ago because a lot of people like, oh, if you don't do crazy production, you're not going to get a high ROI. You're not going to get as many views and engagement from the data we analyzed more than 70 % of the videos that were popular had no fancy production. So the majority of the videos that were getting the engagement on social media didn't have high quality production. It just goes to show you probably don't need that for the Superbowl either.
4:16Yep. By the way, Neil and I have an agency owners group called the agency owners association. All you have to do just go to marketing school.io slash agency. Once Again, it's marketingschool.io slash agency to learn more. And now back to the show. Microsoft OpenAI, Google, and others agree to combat election-related deepfakes. You see the article? No. So they're pretty much just making a pact saying that, hey, we know this is election year, at least in the United States. And we're going to make a pact to stop AI from creating all these deepfakes, which could potentially cause people to sway one way or another in election.
4:56I wonder, I mean, how, you know? I don't know how, and I don't think it's going to end up working. I think you're going to see tons of deep fakes. Maybe people will say, oh, this one's real, this one's fake, or whatever, and start analyzing. But they didn't stop the Taylor Swift deep fake. No, and then did you see the company that lost$25 million to a deep fake too? No. Yeah, I think we talked about a CFO a while back, but I don't know if this is related to it. But a company lost$25 million, and I think it's like, I think it's probably the CFO that released a bunch of money and thought it was the CEO or something.
5:28It was pretty elaborate. By the way, here's the crazy thing. A scammer was messaging my team yesterday and they've got everyone's phone numbers. They've got their emails on their phone numbers. I don't know. That is pretty sophisticated. Do you have an internal security team? We don't, but we all know we've made a point to everyone like, I will never ask you for anything. So I'm not going to ask you to send me money or gift cards or anything. Two things you should actually consider is when we don't have as many people in the organization, you can pay outside companies as a consultant for X amount of hours a month just to help with security.
6:05Eventually, as you scale up and you have more people, you'll have to hire a full-time person for security. What would the title be? I don't know, but I know on our end, Tracy ends up running it with whoever. She's in charge of that department or person or people. And then the other thing that you can do is you can get insurance for cyber theft. We have cyber insurance. Dude, I mean, you just remind me. I'm going to email my friend right now. He ran security at Mozilla and Uber. We played drums in high school. I'm going to hit him up right now. Mozilla and Uber? Yeah, he ran security there. Yeah.
6:35Dude, it's worth it. I remember three years ago, two years ago, we had someone do a fake email. So we were paying a contractor to run TV ads on CNBC, Bloomberg, and all the financial sites. And more so on their television networks, right? So not the sites, but the actual TV during the airtime. And someone got access to the company that we're sending the money to, because they have email addresses as well, emailed us. And we ended up sending the money to a different place based on the email. And we got ripped off. It wasn't much. It was like 100, 200 grand. Who's we? NP Digital, my company. Oh, wow.
7:14But we had insurance and insurance covered 90-ish percent of it. It was something like that. What happened to 10 %? The 10 % is the deductible or whatever you want to call it. It came from summer. I don't know if it was there in our end. I believe it was there in, but it was so long ago. But insurance ended up investigating. We hired someone to investigate as well, and we got$0.90 on the dollar. Did your premium go up? Probably, but I wanted my$0.90 on the dollar, so I don't care. That's good. All right, so that is it for today. Please don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe. markingschool.io slash agency to learn more about our agency owners association and we'll see you tomorrow.

