In short
The episode compares “clipping” as a paid-media strategy (hiring large teams to generate short-form clips) with how businesses can apply similar tactics using AI tools. It also reviews 10 AI/marketing tools the hosts would pay for, emphasizing automation, personalization, and agent reliability.
Guests/backgrounds
No formal guests. Two hosts discuss: Neil (often referenced) and Brayden Peters, a 20-year-old streamer/clipping influencer (“looks maxing”/“retard maxing” themes). They also mention their own teams/tools (ClickFlow, Hermes).
Key claims
Clavicular/Brayden Peters spends about $650k/month on clipping, producing ~70k clips/month via ~1,500 editors. AI improves content when fed correct inputs. “Camry vs Ferrari” metaphor: build reliable agent fleets, not one overloaded agent.
Notable examples
HubSpot AEO positioning; using X/YouTube APIs for hooks; HighLevel AI call screening/bookings; Higgsfield ad generation; Crazy Egg personalization/A-B testing; AnswerThePublic long-tail AI keyword content; Gemini scripted video variations.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAnalyzing Podcast Hooks
1:10 to 1:40
Discussion on podcast hooks and content optimization using AI.
“because AI has slowly been making my content better in terms of getting more views.”
Clavicular's Marketing Budget
1:40 to 3:10
Exploring the case of Clavicular spending $650,000 a month on clips.
“And he's been blowing up on on on short form.”
Clavicular's Monetization Methods
3:10 to 5:20
Insights into how Clavicular monetizes his content alongside sponsorships.
“But when you're looking at the Clippers, I think it's good.”
The Concept of Looks Maxing
5:20 to 7:30
Discussion on looks maxing and its implications in the influencer space.
“yeah i thought you meant you and i overthink and i'm like do we really no no no i think just go for the most part.”
Retard Maxing Concept
7:30 to 9:30
Exploring the term 'retard maxing' and its entrepreneurial applications.
“Claude, because I already pay$8 ,000 a month for myself.”
Paid Media and AI Integration
9:30 to 11:40
The evolution of paid media strategies and integrating AI for efficiency.
“a light version as well, go ahead and do it.”
AI Tools for Marketing
11:40 to 13:20
Discussion on essential AI tools for marketers and their benefits.
“yeah that would be tool number two and especially for smaller businesses you know when you think about a thousand a month, how much more would you spend hiring a person to do that?”
YouTube's Language Feature
14:22 to 15:14
Exploring YouTube's ability to adapt videos for multiple languages.
“So number four, and this one is a free tool, but I would pay a thousand dollars a month for it.”
Using XAPI for Growth
15:14 to 17:00
How XAPI can enhance marketing strategies and speaker outreach.
“It's not for, I'm like, no, I didn't really create it.”
Crazy Egg's New Features
17:00 to 17:53
Discussion on Crazy Egg's personalization and A/B testing capabilities.
“The next one on my end, I think this is number six, is Crazy Egg released a personalization feature, or Heathen did.”
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The Need for APIs in Marketing
17:53 to 19:39
Advocating for APIs in content creation and SEO tools.
“So number seven, I'm going to, if you go to ClickFlow, we actually have an API for it and we're coming out with a free version for it.”
Leveraging AI for Video Creation
19:39 to 21:02
How AI and Gemini can streamline video production and scripting.
“So the problem with my OpenClaw right now is I've made it a Ferrari that has too much on it.”
Ferrari vs. Camry Analogy
21:02 to 23:38
Using car metaphors to discuss marketing strategy effectiveness.
“And you don't know if they're going to be a hit.”
Business Mastermind Insights
23:38 to 25:16
Reflections on masterminds and business partnerships.
“I would personally prefer to drive a Camry.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Eric Siu:When a buyer asks AI for a solution like yours, does your business come up? Most companies have no idea. And by the time they find out, they've already lost the deal to someone who did. HubSpot AEO helps you show up in those moments with the right answers buyers are looking for. Before the first click, before the first form fill. That's the moment HubSpot AEO is built for. Check out HubSpot.com, the agentic customer platform for growing businesses. is so neil i had a i had my open call audit our podcast and then it basically i used the youtube api and x api you know what it did so now we have a column here for the hook okay and we also have so we we do trade-offs too where we go back and forth as well so um what i basically did i was i connected the youtube api i was like use the youtube api i want you to analyze our channel and show us what we're doing well and what we're not doing well and i also want you to compare it to the Dyer of a CEO podcast, the Modern Wisdom podcast, and TVPN, okay?
0:56Eric Siu:And it's like, okay, so you guys don't open with any hooks. You guys just kind of go right into it. And then you and Neil need to alternate more in terms of kicking it off. And then your classics do well too. So you should bring the classics back. So there's hooks for the classics over here as well. So we're gonna try that format today because AI has slowly been making my content better in terms of getting more views. We'll just kick it off that way. So let's just kick off on one. So, you know, I've been doing some research on these more on these these these clippers. So one company, one company is paying 650 grand a month just to make short clips.
1:30Eric Siu:And that's the marketing budget. OK, so basically this guy clavicular. Have you heard of this guy? No, apparently he's been blowing up. So, you know, this dude over here, apparently he's like a security guard a few years ago. And he's been blowing up on on on short form. And so he's a clipper now, I'm assuming. Well, he has clippers. He has like he's paying 650 grand for clippers. So to run the campaign so more than 1500 clippers work for him nearly 70 ,000 clips a month So you just go back to like the the Andrew Tate strategy, right where there's going hard on clips
1:59Neil Patel:I'm confused here. So he's a security guard or was a security was a security guard and he's still young very young in his 20s or whatever
2:05Eric Siu:Okay That's how a lot of these kids are generating a ton of views and I've been working with more and more of these kids
2:10Neil Patel:And I'm happy to share my experience as well because there's good and bad things But before we go into your experience working with the kids, the ex-security guard is spending$650 ,000 a month. Is he a consulting company where he's selling the clips to other people and doing it for companies? No, he's just a streamer. Okay, so what does he stream or how is he monetizing other than streaming and maybe sponsors?
2:33Eric Siu:I think it's just that. I think that's how a lot of these streamers make money. Here's what I haven't really researched as much. Like iShowSpeed, for example. These people, they do have a lot of money for their age. And I'm just like, how is it that like this Aiden Ross person, like how do they make all their money? Right. I have to imagine a lot of that sponsorships. They probably drive a lot of them to a community or some type of course as well. That's what I think.
2:55Neil Patel:I think we talked about iShowSpeed on the podcast. I told you I was doing lunch or something with someone like, yeah, iShowSpeed makes 100 million a year. I'm like, no, yeah, nowhere near there because Mr. Beast doesn't make as much per video as people thought. and he did a guessing game on X. But when you're looking at the Clippers, I think it's good. I think people, and you and I talked about this in our last week recording session, people should focus on taking these marketing tactics and applying it to businesses like software companies or AI companies or consumer companies. You won't get as many views, but your conversion from viewer to revenue will be much higher.
3:40Eric Siu:I just, I run Grok on this one. I use Grok because Grok is pretty on top of the trends. So Clavicular's name is Brayden Peters, okay? So he's 20 years old streamer. He's a looks maxing influencer, whatever that means. I think looks maxing. Looks maxing. So look up looks maxing and then look up retard maxing because Marc Andreessen has been talking about retard maxing. Did I send you that video? Looks maxing influencer are social media creators
4:03Neil Patel:who promote the practice of, Looks maxing, a term originated from male-focused internet subcultures like incels that refer to taking extreme measures to maximize one physical attractiveness. These influencers, these influencers, primarily on platforms like TikTok, YouTube, and Kik, focus on optimizing facial structure, body composition, and grooming to achieve conventionally attractive or chiseled appearance. What's the other one you want me to look up? Retard maxing.
4:32Eric Siu:So we're using the R word. Let me tell you why. So as Neil looks it up, so Mark Andreessen was the one that brought me on to this. So Mark Andreessen has been watching this guy and this guy just talks about how to be a man. And the whole idea behind retard maxing is just like, if you're going to go approach a woman and talk to them, don't even think about it, just go. If you're going to think about like what you're just thinking about like starting a business, so don't even think about it, just go. Everything's just go.
4:55Neil Patel:And so what does it say? so i'm not going to say the term but it it advocates uh overcoming overthinking perfectionism analysis paralysis kind of like the stuff you're talking about it just is like stop the overthinking things just go and do it and i think for the most part in our lives we
5:13Eric Siu:have been like that uh i think so when it comes to entrepreneurship just go just start we're gonna
5:20Neil Patel:yeah i thought you meant you and i overthink and i'm like do we really no no no i think just go for the most part. Don't wait. Don't tell me.
5:25Eric Siu:Just go. Right? But sometimes we go too much and don't think of it. That causes more problems. But it works more often than it not. By the way, when people look at that, that's your greatest strength. That's also your greatest weakness, too. Just keep in mind, whatever your greatest strength is, there's a double-edged sword. So let me tell you how he makes his money, Neil. So he's publicly showing about 80 to 100 grand a month from donations from KCIP alone, Kit Creator Incentive Program. In January, he made 110 grand with over 90 % coming straight from KCIP. and then he says during his Mog World Order subathon I guess that was a stream, he was pulling in roughly 20 grand per day 20 grand per day, that's 600 grand a month right?
6:04Eric Siu:And then he has a paid community, I call it, he has a paid community course, so Claviculars Clan Formula Clavicular System he sells monthly access to his self-improvement looks maxing program for about$50 a month this is a recurring stream on top of streaming and then he has sponsorships Young LA, Affiliate Links, YouTube burnings. So yeah, it kind of makes sense.
6:24Neil Patel:That makes sense.
6:25Eric Siu:Yeah. And here's the thing. Like, I do think in a sense, you know, people used to say, okay, paid media used to mean Google ads. It does in a sense, but now part of it, I also feel like paid media is, this is kind of in a sense, you're doing paid media, right? It's more or less, you're trying to buy these organic views. And so that's kind of what the system is today. Bless you. Thank you. But let me show you this. bless you again okay so thank you this is the same the so paid media in 2026 so now the concept neil is how are you how are you buying more tokens okay so a part of it is sure you're paying clippers so if you're paying 1500 editors to edit and post 17 70 000 pieces of content but i also think at the same time it might mean also buying tokens from like a chat gpt or buying tokens from an anthropic as well because you need people to um to maybe edit your clips at more volume um and you can generate more ai clips as well so i think what's going to happen is you're going to you're going to be doing this clipping thing but you're also going to be paying for a lot more tokens because you're spending so much on on these clips so i think that's a piece of it yep all right let's
7:33Neil Patel:go with the next one 10 marketing ai tools we'd pay for even if they cost a thousand dollars a month okay here's the hook so you got to go with the hook neil read it again all right if these 10 AI tools cost$1 ,000 a month each, we'd still pay for all of them. Here's why. Okay. Claude, because I already pay$8 ,000 a month for myself.
7:54Eric Siu:So let me tell you why we should justify each one. So the reason for that is I'm able to do so much more with less. Some examples here. One, literally yesterday, Neil, I took my X thread and I said, Hey, take this X thread and then use use the image model and make it into make it into like these slides and then I can repurpose it for YouTube okay so anything that's design bound now I can generate instantly okay I'm gonna show you something else real quick Neil so I'm gonna Neil Neil can see my screen those of you that are watching on YouTube you should subscribe to us on on YouTube but I have the ability now Neil check this out here I'm gonna pull this up so look at this you see this site
8:36Eric Siu:this is API for SEO this is click flow okay this landing page okay this is all about the API for for SEO okay so you can see there's code how does it work the different use cases the different all this stuff right so this landing page what do you think not that bad the landing page is not bad
8:53Neil Patel:okay it's it's it's a great start you have to make some adjustments but this is great to start yeah
8:58Eric Siu:and then by the way it's it's like a I can use it on on like a call to you I said to make it like a deck too right so if I press um usually if I might yeah okay every time I press space it's like a deck okay yeah so this is deployed to a website right now so my point of saying this is that Neil what I just showed Neil I was at the gym this morning I said hey I want to use my design I'm talking to my phone right now I want to use my design that MD file for click flow and I want to make a landing page dedicated API for SEO pull the documents from the click flow documents right now and go ahead and spin it up I want a dark version and I want a I want a light version as well, go ahead and do it.
9:34Neil Patel:And then it does it in a few minutes.
9:36Eric Siu:Yeah. To me, that's end to end. And so for me, this used to take weeks to even get a mock-up done. Now you can do it a lot faster. Now it's like 90 % there. Yeah.
9:45Neil Patel:The one thing I would adjust on that homepage, and you already know this, the headline. I don't like how it crossed it off because you want it to make sense where they crossed out words and you don't read those words. Or if you do - I agree
9:58Eric Siu:with that.
9:58Neil Patel:You know why?
9:59Eric Siu:When you have the cross out, it makes people think, well, what did you cross out exactly? It kind of, there's some distortion there. You wanted to get to the point.
10:05Neil Patel:Yeah. But I don't mind the cross out. It's just more so if you read it without the cross out, it doesn't make sense. But tool number two, high level. So here's why I love this AI tool, especially if you're a local business. If you're a local business right now, think about it. Like let's say I own an HVAC or roofing company or plumbing company. Let's that you use plumbing. I have people calling me. I'm running ads. And what ends up happening? You get leads. Very few people follow up. Very few people book appointment. And you lose a lot just in that layer. So sure, it can help you with all your ads and stuff like that.
10:43Neil Patel:But what I really love about High Level is specific. There's a lot of great features. But what I really love especially for local businesses it has an ai assistant that screens the call converses with someone books it schedules appointment based on your availability and when people can get it and what works for them and now you don't have to follow up with leads and it works really well
11:07Eric Siu:you've tried it yes so it's like a discovery call and like what how how complex can it get
11:12Neil Patel:it can get pretty complex depending on how you train it and when you say i tried it not for myself because i don't actually own a local business but yes we have customers in the local space yeah and it's really cool cool great um but it comes down to like what do you feed in i think this is the biggest problem with ai if you don't feed in the right stuff your outputs are just crap no matter what tools you're using and i think that's a mistake that most companies make but yeah that would be tool number two and especially for smaller businesses you know when you think about a thousand a month, how much more would you spend hiring a person to do that?
11:49Eric Siu:My thing alone, I mean, before a year ago that you're probably talking about, if you're talking about offshore, you're probably talking about at least 50, 60 grand. And if you're talking about onshore, probably like we're talking about, you know, 120, 150, 180, depending on experience. Sure.
12:02Neil Patel:And even for something simple, like having high level answer your calls, how much do you think that would cost a human?
12:09Eric Siu:I think a good human that can also route it and also record everything. I think that good
12:13Neil Patel:humans worth 120 to 150 yeah yeah and if it's if it's near shore offshore maybe a little less but
12:19Eric Siu:yes yeah um so my next one's going to be higgs field the reason i like higgs field is so higgs field it does um it does you know just ad creation video creation things like that right and so look this is these are just ads that we we've made for a telecoms company um and they really like these right and so look it's just they're motion graphics whatever we we generate a ton of statics as well. So we took the Higgsfield MCP and we hooked it into our GitHub repo. And that's now allowing us to, from a sales standpoint, we can crank out. I'll be like, Hey, Neil, you work for a mountain Valley spring.
12:55Eric Siu:Here's a bunch of ads for you over here. Let me know if you want to talk. And then maybe my follow-up is here's 10 more ads for you. Let me know if you want to talk. Hey, your competitor made ads like this. They've been running them for a while. Let me know if you want to talk. You just keep hitting them with new ads over and over. and so this will work for a while I think before the rest of the world catches on so I think in terms of generating new pipeline in terms of generating new ads because a lot of the people we talk to you've seen this as well is when they come to us it's like oh the bottleneck for us to scaling right now is more creative it's more creative or it's more emails it's more creative it's more emails whatever it is exactly Higgs field has been pretty good for it especially now that there's an MCP you can ask your open claw or your Hermes agent or whatever to just say hey look at Neil Patel's MP Digital ads over here.
13:36Eric Siu:I want similar versions for them, only the ones that are longest running, assuming that Neil's not a dum-dum and he's not just keeping bad ads running because the longest ads running are usually the ones that are performing.
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13:45Neil Patel:Quick break. If you're doing AI SEO or content marketing in general,
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14:21Eric Siu:Back to the show.
14:22Neil Patel:Yeah. So number four, and this one is a free tool, but I would pay a thousand dollars a month for it. YouTube has something now where they can make your videos and they've had this for a little bit but we don't see most companies or creators leverages they can make your content adjustable to multiple languages oh yeah and very few people use it we're seeing good traffic gains from this from the regions we've been testing it in it's free so it doesn't cost a thousand dollars but I genuinely would pay a thousand dollars a month for that feature yeah I just wish they did more languages but I believe they're going to keep adding more and more I've seen my Instagram reels in Hindi before.
14:58Neil Patel:It was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you listened to your stuff in Hindi? I haven't seen myself in Hindi, but people have sent me my content in Portuguese because I have quite a bit
15:08Eric Siu:of a Brazilian audience. Yeah. And I was like,
15:12Neil Patel:oh, cool. Like they're screenshotting it and they're like, your voice isn't that bad. It's not for, I'm like, no, I didn't really create it. They did it for you.
15:19Eric Siu:Number four, XAPI. So what? Number five, five. Number five? You went first. Oh, okay. Yeah, you're right. Number five, XAPI. So the reason I like XAPI now, what they did, Neil, is they've decreased the cost to read a tweet. It used to be a lot more expensive. Now it costs, I think it costs a lot more to, if you want to post something using an API with a link to it, because they don't want to decrease their reach, okay? So I think it's like a fraction of a penny now, Neil, to read something. And so what I can do, for example, yesterday, I'm looking for more like AI founders in Europe for my AI global summit for YPO, right?
15:55Eric Siu:Even though I said I wouldn't do any more. So, so anyway, my point is, um, I'm like, okay, I want you to find a bunch of, uh, tier one, tier two, tier three speakers, list all of them. And then it crafted the messaging and it was, it was about to send them through my, uh, my, my X account. But the whole idea here is you want to hire paid media people. You want to hire these creative people over here. I wanted to hire, you know what happened? These clippers, once I found out Forbes did a, like a, like a, like a, like a piece on the clipping company. You know what I did? I reached out to the clipping company.
16:23Eric Siu:I said, hey, I want to poach other people. Find all the people over here. And then I want to reach out to every single one of them. I have three of the kids now that I'm talking. I'm trialing three of the kids. They're all kids, like 18, 20 years old. Like one of them I was talking to yesterday on the phone. He was at his mom's. I could hear his mom in the background, right? And I'm like, anyway, all that to say is the X API is extremely powerful now. And what I also do with it, I was like, hey, open claw. Pull from all the latest stuff in AI marketing right now. And then just decide based on what our goals are and what I've been working on, how this fits into what we're doing, how high leverage it should be, should we be doing it?
16:54Eric Siu:Because the smartest people are posting on X. So the X API, they've made it even cheaper now. I'd be paying over$1 ,000 a month for it.
17:01Neil Patel:Yeah. The next one on my end, I think this is number six, is Crazy Egg released a personalization feature, or Heathen did. And - Still you too. Yeah. Technically it's just him, but yeah. Okay. When, with the personalization feature, what ends up happening is they have tons of A-B testing data and learnings over the years on what works and what doesn't. You pop in a URL to create variations of any of your pages based on what converts better and what doesn't.
17:34Eric Siu:Nice. That's good. So what is Crazy Egg focused on now? Personalization?
17:39Neil Patel:Personalization, A-B testing. They released analytics recently too. But a lot of that stuff.
17:45Eric Siu:Just for context, Crazy Egg used to be Neo and Heaton's tool. It was more of a heat mapping tool. and now they've done a lot more. It seems like Heaton's very AI-pilled now, so he's adding a lot to it. Yes. So that's cool. Number seven, yeah. So number seven, I'm going to, if you go to ClickFlow, we actually have an API for it and we're coming out with a free version for it. So I think there needs to be an API for content creation. It doesn't even have to be ClickFlow. I think there needs to be an API for SEO in general. So the ability to be able to, through a command line interface or to be able to have your agents just say, okay, here's all the rankings you have right now using the Ubersuggest API, okay?
18:19Eric Siu:And then based on that, you should be creating this content over here and you should be updating this content over here. You should be thinking about internal linking. To have an API that the agents can access, I think is really important. And so I think really any marketing tool that has an API right now, I just use that one as an example because I was just showing Neil an example of a landing page I made from it.
18:37Neil Patel:Cool, number eight, answer the public. It helps you get a lot more AI traffic. It's really simple. It ends up telling you all the long tail variations that people are searching in AI platforms and LLMs, which is the new type of keywords. People aren't searching head terms like they used to. It's all people typing in sentences. And the cool part is, is it'll automatically create the content for you. You then go in and modify and adjust it and add in the EEAT. It'll add in the images. It'll automatically publish to your Webflow, Shopify, WordPress, whatever system you are. So you don't even have to do any of that.
19:10Neil Patel:It'll do the content calendars, create tons of content for you. You can do it in different languages and automatically publish once you approve it.
19:18Eric Siu:So just full disclosure for everyone, the last two tools are both Niels and ours. So we just want to disclose that. So anyway, number nine, last from my end, Hermes. We name ours Hermes because I have the Hermes Paris logo on mine in Slack. So Hermes, basically it's an open source agent. It's very similar to OpenClaw, but it's more reliable from what I've seen. So the problem with my OpenClaw right now is I've made it a Ferrari that has too much on it. So imagine you stack like a bunch of luggage on it. So I keep adding more and more to it. So it's become this monstrosity. And also Ferrari is not a very practical car to drive because you can't really put your groceries in it.
19:54Eric Siu:You can't really have your family drive in it either. And it probably scratches all the time. I wouldn't know. I don't have Ferrari, but bless you, Noah. And so I would say that Hermes is actually way more reliable. It's very fast. And the beauty of Hermes is that it learns as it can, the more you work with it, the better it gets over time because it's constantly adding skill.md files to it over and over. So I think having a Hermes also be the brain that manages my open claw fleet is very helpful. And what I'm even testing right now is having a Hermes fleet. And so I would for sure pay over$1 ,000 a month for this.
20:27Neil Patel:Yeah. And then the last tool, because Google ended up rolling this into Gemini, is Gemini. But you all know about Nano Banana and all the things that they've done for image and video creation. What I found that works really well in marketing, and this would cost way more money to hire a company to do, is to have a scripted video. Do you remember those old D2C style videos that people would put on Facebook and put a storyline and pay a company like Harmon Brothers, the squatty potty videos and stuff? You can do those. They still work. We don't see too many people doing them because the problem is when you create them, they're a big hit or miss.
21:06Neil Patel:And you don't know if they're going to be a hit. and you're like, man, I just burned 50 grand, 100 grand on this, and it was a miss. So then you do it like five or six times or 10 times, and you create a hit, but you may have burned a half a million to a million dollars. Now with Gemini, you can burn like$1 ,000 and get your hit and have tons of variations, and all you have to do is just come up with the script. The problem we're seeing is people don't want to do it because it takes time to script, but the scripting is the least expensive part. the video creation used to be the most expensive part.
21:39Neil Patel:Now you can just do it with AI and Gemini does a great job and it's pennies on the dollar.
21:45Eric Siu:Dude, can I give you, let me give you a bonus here. This is 11, okay? So check this out. Remember I was just talking about Ferrari versus Camry ages? So I took my X post yesterday. Okay, this is ChatGVD Images 2.0. I think it's better than NanoVanana. So what I'm showing on the screen over here is you have a Ferrari on the left side. It has a bunch of stuff added to the top of it, like a long contacts, guardrails, code, all this stuff, right? And then you have a fleet of Camrys. Toyota Camry is very reliable. I just have a Lexus, which is just Toyota, right? Very reliable. So you go down the list over here.
22:15Eric Siu:Look, come on, look at that. You have all this bolt. The temptation is you bolt everything onto one agent. You get a Ferrari agent. It's expensive, it's beautiful, and it's impractical. Great demo, fragile operations, right? Then the business failure mode shows up, right? And then you have this context jam over here. And then what you need is a Camry model for SEO briefs, for CRM cleanup. You want each agent to do its own thing. And so my point of all this, look at this, dude, this is pretty good. All I did, Neil, was I took from a tweet that I wrote and then I said, use ChatGP to Images 2.0. It cranked it out.
22:45Eric Siu:And so my point of saying this too is that, to Neil's point, if you're going to do a script, you still have to go with it back and forth and say, ask me clarifying questions, and then it can make the best script for you. And then ideally you're probably posting scripts that have worked well for you in the past to give it more context to make it even better.
23:00Neil Patel:And just as a heads up, make sure you're not using stuff that can get you sued.
23:04Eric Siu:Yes. Right? I can make a YouTube video for this one. Yes.
23:08Neil Patel:I can't make an ad for this. No, the Ferrari example, I think you'll get in trouble. Ferrari, depending on how it's used. Well, you mean for the ad? Correct.
23:18Eric Siu:Yes. Yeah. I can't use it as an ad. Just Neil is right. But I would use this in a YouTube video to describe both of them.
23:24Neil Patel:Totally agree. Yeah. And double check with the lawyer whether you're using it for a YouTube video or ad, because neither Eric or I want the liability. Because every country has different laws.
23:33Eric Siu:It's not legal advice, guys.
23:33Neil Patel:This is not legal advice. And run everything by law. And we like Ferraris.
23:36Eric Siu:We do like Ferraris.
23:37Neil Patel:And we like Camrys. They're both great.
23:39Eric Siu:I would personally prefer to drive a Camry. But they're both great.
23:43Neil Patel:You know, I've had friends pick me up in Ferraris and they're like, how cool is this? I'm like, man, it's so hard to get into your car. You have to bend so low.
23:50Eric Siu:It's so low and then it's so loud
23:52Neil Patel:and it draws all this attention. I don't want it. Yeah. And forget even the attention. It's just an uncomfortable ride. like it's so bumpy i'm like they're like you're one with the road i don't want to feel every bump la has a lot of paul yeah no anyway i mean your your your partner had a ferrari before or lambo uh lamborghini we used to call him mike lambo remember that dude i we did we call him mike
24:14Eric Siu:lambo before yeah i don't remember um okay so the guys from war room who came up with that um
24:20Neil Patel:i don't know i'm bringing on the name uh daniel from uh is it astrology answers i don't know
24:26Eric Siu:I don't know who that is. Yeah, he used to be part of War Room. You were in War Room like earlier before I was. So we're talking about this mastermind that Neil and I, Neil used to speak at this event. I was in this mastermind for like a year or two. So one of our late friends, Brandon Stapper, and then Yaniv and I were business partners. We were real estate business partners so we could bring the cost down. So they don't have to pay $25 ,000 a year.
24:44Neil Patel:Because they charge you per business, not per person. Well, they charge,
24:50Eric Siu:but if you come in as partners, then it's cheaper. Yeah,$25 ,000 divided by three.
24:54Neil Patel:Yeah, that's all better. I thought it was like 50 grand at one point.
24:57Eric Siu:It got up to 50 grand. And then they started doing like Coachella week one and Coachella week two. So they had like two weekends. It started getting too big. And I think that's why they had. I think with a lot of these masterminds, just if you guys ever want to do one, just understand there's a shelf life on it. And you probably have to redo it again. I just found that it's a lot of work. So, guys, that is it for today. Please let us know what you think about this new format, new-ish format. And we'll see you tomorrow.
25:25We'll be right back.
From the publisher
Eric and Neil break down how Clavicular built a viral marketing machine, why clipping is starting to look a lot like paid media, and what businesses can learn from that playbook. Reports on Clavicular’s growth describe a large clipping operation that helped make his content unavoidable across platforms, which is the bigger distribution shift they unpack in this episode.
They also share 10 marketing and AI tools they would still pay for even if they cost $1,000 a month, including tools for landing pages, AI call handling, ad creative, multilingual video, personalization, SEO workflows, and agent-based execution.
Key takeaways
◾ What looks organic can actually be engineered distribution at scale.
◾ Clipping is becoming a serious modern paid media strategy.
◾ Businesses can apply the same playbook and often get better conversion quality.
◾ AI tools are collapsing weeks of marketing work into minutes.
◾ APIs, agents, and personalization are becoming core parts of the stack.
Chapters
(00:00) How Clavicular built a viral marketing machine
(07:04) 10 tools we’d pay $1,000/month for
(09:50) HighLevel, Higsfield, and YouTube’s multilingual features
(14:59) X API, personalization, and SEO workflows
(19:06) Hermes, Gemini, and agent-based marketing
