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Podcast Summary: Marketplace - Feeding the Family (Bonus Episode)
Episode Overview In this special episode of Marketplace, host Kai Ryssdal explores the intricate web of business and economics related to food during the holiday season. The episode titled "Feeding the Family" focuses on the challenges many families face concerning food costs, funding cuts for food banks, and the increasing pressures of food insecurity. The episode features stories from diverse locations including farms, home kitchens, and restaurants.
Key Themes and Discussions
Food Insecurity
- Growing Concern: Food insecurity has risen dramatically, affecting approximately 18 million families in 2023, an increase from the previous year.
- Impact of Federal Policies: The episode highlights cuts to the USDA funding and how these reductions have led to food banks struggling to supply essential resources.
- Economic Strain: Grocery prices have surged over 25% in the last five years, complicating meal planning for many families.
Innovative Food Production
- Cell-Cultured Chocolate:
- The episode discusses California Cultured, a Sacramento-based company producing chocolate using cell cultures instead of traditional cacao plants.
- This innovation is seen as a potential solution to climate challenges affecting cocoa production, where 85% of current land may become unsuitable for chocolate cultivation.
Economic History of Jell-O
- Cultural Significance: The journey of Jell-O from a luxury dessert to an affordable staple highlights its adaptability in American culinary history, especially during times of economic hardship like the Great Depression and World War II.
- Modern Perception: The discussion also covers how Jell-O has maintained relevance in American kitchens, amid changing tastes and health perceptions.
Recession Recipes on Social Media
- Kiki Ruff's Recession Recipes: A TikTok influencer who creates budget-friendly recipes aimed at families experiencing food insecurity.
- Personal Journey: Ruff recounts her own struggles with food while working low-wage jobs and how she now shares recipes that help families eat well on a budget.
- Social Media Influence: The rise of these "recession recipes" signifies a shift in how communities are sharing culinary resources amid economic challenges.
Challenges in Agriculture
- Kansas Wheat Farmers: The episode features interviews with Kansas farmers impacted by climate change and tariffs, noting how these economic factors affect wheat production and prices.
- Sustainable Practices: Farmers like Paul Penner have implemented no-till farming practices to preserve soil moisture, highlighting the intersection of sustainability and economic necessity.
Refugee Farmers
- Toto Alamasi's Story: A refugee farmer in Houston whose farm has faced challenges due to the loss of USDA funding, which is crucial for local food banks and small-scale producers.
- Community Support: Programs like Planet Forward aim to support refugee farmers by creating market connections and addressing food justice issues.
Balancing Culinary and Family Life
- High-End Chefs' Perspectives: Chefs Thomas and Mariah Pisha Duffley discuss their approach to family meals amidst the busy restaurant season, emphasizing the importance of home cooking and family time over traditional holiday pressures.
Key Takeaways
- Economic Context: Understanding the broader economic landscape is essential for making sense of food accessibility and the choices families make during the holidays.
- Innovation in Food Production: Innovations like lab-grown foods may provide solutions to future food shortages caused by climate change.
- Community Resilience: Individuals and organizations are finding creative ways to support one another through economic hardships, showcasing adaptability in difficult times.
- Cultural Reflection: Food traditions, while evolving, remain a vital connection between families, reflecting cultural history and personal stories.
Conclusion This episode of Marketplace provides a profound look at the intersection of economics, food production, and family traditions, underscoring the challenges and innovations shaping the world of food this holiday season. The blend of personal narratives and expert insights offers listeners a deeper understanding of the complexities involved in feeding families in today's economic climate.
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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00One of the perks of my job is that sometimes I wind up in delicious places. We do have some chocolates if you guys are interested in tasting them. Oh, no, thanks. I'll pass. All right, well, let's get out of here. Have you not seen my mouth watering over here? I'm visiting a company called California Cultured. They make chocolate and coffee. I'm at their headquarters in Sacramento, California. In a small kitchen, Steve Stearns, a former chef at high-end restaurants, has three different chocolates lined up for me to try. little thumbprint-sized morsels laid out on a platter. I'll try to spare you the chewing sounds, but the first two samples taste a little sour.
0:41It's not my favorite. I'm going to be honest. Steve says I'm picking up on the fruity, more acidic notes. The third one is a nice, toasty, dark chocolate. I think that's my favorite of the three. It's got a little bit more bitterness to it, but it still has those fruity notes. So how do you guys feel like now having for the first time tasted chocolate from cells? You know, I didn't even think about the fact that it came from cells. Right. This is not like other chocolate. This is the chocolate of the future. It didn't come from a cacao plant grown in the ground. It was made here in a lab, created from cells in a Petri dish.
1:26And why would anyone do that? Climate change is making cocoa harder and costlier to produce. Cocoa prices have risen to record highs in recent years due to extreme rainfall, drought and heat. But it's not just climate change that's impacting food. Tariffs, supply chain issues and inflation mean we can all expect to pay more for all kinds of food. Beef prices have soared to all time highs with many families feeling the squeeze. Researchers are tracing price jumps, including an 80 % spike in the cost of U.S. vegetables to extreme weather linked to climate change. The key inflation report released last week shows prices have risen at the fastest pace since the start of the year.
2:12Many consumers are feeling that financial squeeze at the grocery store. I'm Amy Scott, and this is Feeding the Family, a marketplace special about the business and economics of food. Over the next hour, reporters from around Marketplace will explore the complicated forces impacting the food on our tables this holiday season. From farmers in Texas grappling with a sudden loss in federal funding, the ways TikTok is reshaping our meals. Plus, we even have a few cherished and inexpensive recipes to share. We're going to start with one of my favorite holiday indulgences, chocolate. Because as wild as it sounds, growing chocolate and other treats in a lab may be the key to enjoying them years from now.
3:05About 85 % of all the land that's currently used for chocolate just will not be suitable for it. It's going to either be too hot, too cold, too wet. That's Alan Perlstein, CEO of California Cultured. Without new technologies, Alan says, those might become luxuries for the super wealthy. He says in a couple decades, you might still be able to buy chocolate grown the old-fashioned way. Sure, for 80 bucks per bar, maybe. To see how the chocolate of the future gets made. Safety glasses, we don't need them? Yes, we actually do. Good call. I follow Alan through California Cultured's office space in the front and into what looks like a quintessential lab, where he opens a retrofitted pizza fridge with racks for stacking pans of pizza.
4:03Only instead of pizza, there are trays of Petri dishes filled with tiny brown blobs. They look like little boogers, basically. I don't know how else to describe this. It's basically little clumps of brown cells. So that's what they look like when they're growing inside of the cocoa pods. Each little blob, Alan says, contains thousands of cocoa cells. We sort of wrangle the cells and make them do what we want in this part of the lab. By wrangle, Allen means they're actually sort of tricking the cells to only grow the tissues they want, targeting certain compounds, flavors, and fats. And part of how they do that is by feeding the cells certain mixtures of food.
4:55Mostly sugar, plant extracts. From here, Allen says it's a bit like repotting plants. The bigger the cells grow, the bigger the container they need to keep growing. To make chocolate, the cells get fermented, roasted, and ground into a powder or liquid. You and I can't buy California cultured chocolate yet. But the plan is to sell the ingredients they make here and also lease the technology to large-scale producers. Although Alan's a little shy about saying which companies they're talking to. Probably some of the big guys out there of the companies who would require millions of tons of chocolate per year and have unfortunately been hit hard with the current chocolate tariffs and price increases.
5:47we're going to be launching our first product most likely with the current sixth largest chocolate company in the world. And we're also in discussions with number two, three, five, eight, 11, 18. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. All ones we've heard of, I'm sure. Yes. Alan did finally say a name. Next year, they're releasing a chocolate product with Meiji, the company that makes those little chocolate pandas, and they're hopeful that people are ready to embrace this type of food. It's not just chocolate that researchers and companies are trying to grow by culturing cells. They're also making salmon and chicken.
6:37The consequences for meat could be huge. I took a food tour of the future and actually tasted these products. You can find out how that went by listening to the new season of Marketplace's Climate Solutions podcast, How We Survive. From the chocolate of the future to something a little more vintage, I'm talking about seafoam salad, cranberry salad served in a gelatinous ring, broken glass jelly. And what do all these dishes have in common? One ingredient that you can pick up for about a dollar, Jell-O. We asked our digital producer, Dylan Mietinen, to dive into the economic history of Jell-O. Hey, Dylan.
7:24So this was a fun assignment. Where did you start? So yeah, for this piece, I decided to call up our family's resident Jell-O expert.
7:39Hello? Hey, Grandma. That would be Grandma Dawn, as she will almost universally introduce herself, no matter your relation to her. She famously makes lime jello dessert every year for nearly every occasion. It's a recipe that she got from her mother-in-law. I filed it away in my metal recipe box for later use. Grandma died in 1985, and I became the only family member that attempted her lime jello dessert recipe. It was a light, fluffy family favorite, and it became my kids' most requested dessert. But I only make it for special occasions now. So yeah, it's a family tradition, one that includes lime jello, evaporated milk, and an Oreo cookie crumble.
8:21Every year for his birthday, my uncle requests two lime jello desserts, one for the family birthday party and one for him to hide away in a secret stash. Okay, so lime jello, evaporated milk, and Oreos? Good stuff. And you're telling me this tastes good together? It does. It may surprise you, but it does. So you've been looking into the class history of Jell-O. I understand it started out actually as a more high-end dessert? So not Jell-O per se, but certainly its predecessor, gelatin. One of the very first recipes for aspic, which is a savory gelatin, first appeared in a medieval French cookbook around 1375.
8:57Now gelatin is created by breaking down collagen, which is found in the bones and skins of animals. Not overly appealing, but you boil them down, you purify the byproduct, add in fruits or juices and sugars, and you get something more dessert-y. Carolyn Wyman is the author of Jell-O, a biography. Before the creation of Jell-O, gelatin was something for the very rich, as cooking gelatin often required a maid or two spending a good part of their day making this one part of just one dish. That was a statement, just the way if you bought a Porsche or a BMW today, or a Rolex watch. People would know you were rich.
9:34Okay, so not just one maid. Potentially two working on this. Exactly. So gelatin was this ultimate status symbol back when people played the lute or wore powdered wigs. Zooming ahead more than a century, it didn't just stay a dish for the ultra-rich, though. No, it did not. Jell-O, this sugary, instant gelatin powder that we know today, was created in 1897. At the turn of the century, Jell-O was advertising itself as America's most famous dessert, and it was truly American. Because it was so easy to make and so easy to digest, it was served to newly arrived Americans at Ellis Island. Still, though, when Jell-O was advertised in publications like the Ladies' Home Journal, it was marketed toward middle - and upper-class housewives.
10:18Here's food historian Laura Shapiro. I think the early advertising and marketing was pushing you up a little. It's a kind of cheap product in a pretty dress. So you dug into, what, 125 years worth of advertising? What did you see? That's right. There's lots. You have ads that were illustrated by artists like Rosie O 'Neill, even Norman Rockwell. You have the Jack Benny radio program, which was sponsored by Jell-O from 1934 to 1942. J-E-L-L-O! The Jell-O program starring Jack Benny. Look for the big red letters on the box. They spell Jell-O. Jell-O also famously printed tons of recipe books and booklets.
11:03Among some of the best recipes I've seen, though admittedly have not created, asparagus salad, mint Jell-O with capers, prune whip, mystic fruit layers, and again, an affordable enough food option, two-penny salad. Oh my, you know, Dylan, these sound so gross to me, but apparently they tasted good? Have tastes changed? Well, days have indeed changed over time. So it's like thinking back to the Great Depression, how this was advertised was it was sort of like a form of escapism from the poverty of the day. It was economical, sure, easy to make, yes, but it could be sophisticated. It could be beautiful.
11:44When you look at recipe books of the day, they included these really fun illustrations of people noshing on jello in these extravagant gowns and tuxes. Fast forward to World War II, sugar had to be rationed, and that did impact Jell-O production. But at the time, it was seen as patriotic to ensure that food, especially fresh foods, fruits, and vegetables, did not go to waste during that time. So Jell-O helped food stretch further for homemakers during a time of war. So it makes sense that Jell-O had a moment during the Depression and World War II because of how cheap it is, and surprisingly really still is.
12:19So talk to me about where Jell-O stands in the American culinary tradition now. So like I said, Jell-O has for a long time been this thing that's colorful and sweet and tasty that moms could make and kids could enjoy. So for adults these days, it can scratch that sort of nostalgic itch. But as Laura Shapiro points out rather comedically, unless you like really grew up eating Jell-O, it might not have this special place in your heart. You know, once you've been told that Jell-O is one of the few things you can eat while you're waiting for a colonoscopy, it loses that allure and joy. Fair, fair, fair.
12:59But I just want to say Jell-O is far from gone. I recently spoke with one of the owners of Solid Wiggles, which is a great name for a boutique gelatin shop based here in New York City. Wait, what? Boutique gelatin shop? Boutique, you heard me right. You heard me right. They create these really artful, artisanal takes on the traditional jello shot. So it's not blue raspberry. You have like Aperol Spritz. You have Manhattan. They're not served in these little plastic shot glasses. They are in beautifully cut cubes. Business is strong for solid wiggles. Their products are served in 19 restaurants across New York and counting, and they'll be publishing a cookbook next June.
13:36But I don't want to make it seem like that's that, that you can really only get jello these days at really swanky New York City eateries or in hospital cafeterias. It's still at many a church supper, many a family gathering, with all of the fun little add-ins and accoutrements you can imagine. Oh, and as for Grandma Dawn and her lime jello dessert? I'm actually glad to be known as the only family member still making the dessert. But my granddaughter Olivia has recently asked to watch me make it, and I look forward to that. So, the jello baton gets passed along, and the family tradition, and the brand that goes along with it, will be cemented at dinner tables for years to come.
14:14All right. Thanks so much, Dylan. I learned a lot. Awesome. Thank you, Amy. This time of year, the internet is filled with influencers sharing ambitious holiday recipes, promising the best ever turkey or wow-worthy wine pairings. The kinds of meals that make you think, I wish I was eating that when you scroll past. But on another side of the internet, people are strategizing about how to put any kind of food on the table. Food insecurity was already on the rise even before the federal shutdown hit SNAP benefits. In 2023, 18 million families were food insecure, up a million from the year before, according to the USDA, which has stopped tracking those numbers under the Trump administration.
15:04Meanwhile, grocery prices have shot up more than 25 percent in the past five years, which means that there's another kind of food influencer popping up, the kind who will teach you how to cook something delicious on a budget. Marketplace's Alice Wilder has the story. Kiki Ruff's videos usually start the same way. If this is your first time being poor, I'm Kiki. There's no telling what recipe will come next. It could be a batch of hot dog buns, roasted tomato soup, or caramel apples. But whatever she makes in her Indiana kitchen, you can be sure it will be cheap. But you just got to keep your eye on those sales.
15:44Ruff has dubbed her creations recession recipes. She told me that she frequently fields requests from hungry followers who are adjusting to their new economic reality. If they're going to a food bank for the first time and they're getting flour and lentils, they're like, well, I don't bake. And what is a lentil? On Ruff's channel, flour turns into donuts and lentils become chili or burgers. She got the idea for recession recipes while scrolling LinkedIn. There was someone who popped up on my feed who was talking about how he was in a transitionary period with his job and he couldn't buy granola bars or fruit snacks for his daughters anymore.
16:19They had to cut the expense and how stressful it was for his daughters. That LinkedIn post inspired her to put together her first recession recipe. She posted it to TikTok in February 2025. And the next morning, she woke up to 90 ,000 new followers. Ruff has a full-time job in software technology, but she immediately decided to devote her free time to making more videos. People are relying on food banks more than ever, and like, I just saw that that was a need that needed to be filled. Today, she has over half a million followers between TikTok and Instagram. If you want an idea of what her videos are like, imagine if your favorite babysitter taught you how to cook.
16:59Now the next part, you get to get a little crafty. We're going to season these. Ruff is warm and goofy, but will also dole out some tough love if the moment calls for it. Oil your pan! Oil your pan! Oil it! She wears heart-shaped glasses and has the red hair of an off-duty Disney princess. I met Ruff in the parking lot of an Aldi in northwest Indiana, where she does most of her grocery shopping. So what is our budget for this grocery shopping trip? I'm going to try to get this under$15. She grabbed a quarter to rent a cart, and we headed in, laser-focused on our grocery list. Oh, pizza dough. We'd be making pizza rolls.
17:36Think cinnamon rolls, but with a savory filling and tomato sauce for dipping. They only have jalapeno. I'm allergic to jalapeno. We're going to roll with it, though. Wait, check behind. There might be... Oh, regular. Okay, perfect. I think we're going to get this under, like,$8. Our total came out to$6.82.
18:00Hold on a second. Okay, so we got it less than half of the budget that we have had for today. I have to admit that when I asked Ruff if we could make a holiday dish together, I wasn't imagining pizza rolls. But she pointed out that potlucks are common this time of year, and there can be pressure to deliver something impressive. When you're invited somewhere, you don't want to show up empty-handed. But if you're only working with$10, it becomes, okay, can I go get the tiniest fruit plate in the world? Can I go get a block of cheese and just bring cheese? Or like, maybe I should just stay home. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
18:34And it's like, I think financial shame is so deeply rooted that it is going to change the way that people gather. That there might be less events within your friend group because, hey, like, no, I actually have to pay rent now. Ruff's hope is that this recipe will mean someone can say yes to a holiday potluck and be proud to bring a homemade dish. We returned to Ruff's home slash studio, where her husband helped her set up a camera and lighting in front of the kitchen stove. Can I ask you a quick question as we're getting started? Yeah. What are the rules of your kitchen? Everybody eats. There are no mistakes.
19:13We're here to learn. And whatever you have is okay. As a kid, Ruff loved to cook. She told me this story while popping butter in the microwave. When I was little, I wanted to be a chef really bad. And I wanted to own my own restaurant. And I was trying to teach myself the fundamentals of cooking. But I stopped cooking around the 2008 recession because when I would mess up, it would waste too much from our family. Most of the frugal skills that Ruff teaches to her followers, she learned the hard way. After dropping out of college, she worked two minimum wage jobs and relied on food stamps, amounting to$40 a month.
19:52I was constantly monitored, which was frustrating. And I remember I got a 25 cent an hour raise at one of my jobs and I lost my EBT. It's this difficult, lengthy process. It does not feel like, hey, we're coming in and helping you. And then the second you do a little bit of good for yourself, it can be yanked out under your feet. So then you're not actually getting ahead. She sometimes had sleep for dinner and lost a lot of weight. Then a friend gave her a four ingredient cookbook. And I started building my skills off of that and then just having staples that I could make when I had the time between the two jobs.
20:30Once Ruff re-enrolled in college, she was able to get back on her feet and had reliable access to food. But years later, things still feel precarious. A couple years ago, when I could put whatever I wanted in my cart, it felt like the highest accomplishment. And it's just, it's not the case anymore. Why is that? Grocery prices have gotten so extreme that it's irresponsible to just be like, oh, yeah, I can bring home donuts. No, I need to make them because I can't spend five dollars on a box of donuts. It's just like there is way more budgeting to it now. This past year, staples like coffee and bananas have gotten a lot more expensive.
21:05The middle class threshold has drastically changed. You know, like I'm working in software technology as an executive and I am considered lower middle class. Right? I live paycheck to paycheck. I do not go out often. I do not buy myself nice clothes. I shop at Aldi. My husband and I haven't even been able to take a honeymoon. We've been married three years. Ruff makes some money off her videos, but the algorithm is fickle. The first month that I released this series, I made$3 ,000. And that, to me, I was like, yeah, I can get new tires. I can get my oil changed, whatever. But the next month, Ruff earned just$175.
21:45Once the oven is preheated and the ingredients are laid out on the counter, it's time to shoot today's video. You have no money. You've been invited to a holiday party. You have to bring a dish and don't want to bring, hmm, I need to sound more excited. She spoke off the cuff and laughed through mistakes. Elbow grease makes it taste better. In just a few minutes, the pizza rolls were assembled. And not long after, it was time to take them out of the oven. Oh my god, wait! That's so cute already. Oh, look at her. The rolls were golden brown and cheese was sizzling on the aluminum foil. You know, I could let them cool, but that would be no fun.
22:25Ruff arranged them on a plate, poured pizza sauce into a ramekin, and presented the final product to the camera. You're bringing these cute little things to your party and they're going to taste so good too. I said before that her videos usually start the same way. Well, they end the same way too. Please remember to eat and also, I love you. Just to our left on the fridge is a note with the same phrase. A friend left it for her during those difficult, hungry years. And I try to give it to other people because that is the greatest gift I've been given. Ruff told me that after I left, she planned to split the rules with her husband and get right back to work, editing her next video.
23:04I'm Alice Wilder for Marketplace.
23:11A lot of the country's wheat comes from Kansas, a place that's grappling with tariffs and climate change. You do it for the love of farming, but also, you know what? I'm a businessman, too. I gotta make money. And I get really angry at myself when I don't make money, you know. That's after the break.
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24:13You're listening to Feeding the Family, a special from Marketplace. I'm Amy Scott. I took a trip recently to Dodge City, Kansas. Okay. I'm at a sign that says, The 100th Meridian, where East meets West. to visit the 100th Meridian. It's the invisible longitudinal line that runs from pole to pole and cuts through the Great Plains. The Meridian passes through the city approximately one mile east of this marker between avenues L and M. The 100th Meridian is historically significant to this region. It's historically significant because it symbolized the dividing line between east and west, Not just geographically or culturally.
25:04In 1878, the explorer and geologist John Wesley Powell observed a difference in the climate, too. He said that was, you know, divided America into an arid half and a humid half. Richard Seeger is a climate scientist at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. Several years ago, he looked into Powell's theory. And I thought, let's see if that idea is really right. He found that Powell's observations about the East-West Divide were pretty spot on. But Richard also discovered something else. The line appeared to be moving. Not the actual meridian on the map, but the dry line. The psychological 100th meridian is moving east.
25:53East of the 100th meridian, he says, is gradually getting more arid. And that could have huge implications for farmers, the economy, and the global food supply. About half of the wheat grown in Kansas is exported to countries including Mexico, Japan, and Nigeria. And since the 1950s, surplus harvests have helped feed the hungry through international aid programs. Climate change in the central U.S. is of enormous importance to food security across the world. I wanted to see how farmers are adapting. So I drove 170 miles across Kansas from west to east to visit Penner Farms in Hillsborough, Kansas.
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26:43And boy, does the scenery change. The flat, treeless landscape gives way to rolling hills. I see a lot more corn and soybeans, crops that need more water. I pull into a driveway and see an explosion of small cats come from beneath a parked pickup truck. Barn kitties that keep the mice at bay. Oh, hi, kitties. Yeah, you think I'm getting food. Paul Penner steps out of the truck. How tall are you, Paul? Six four. I have been looking up. Oh, I am sorry. No, no, not your fault. I've come to meet Paul because Richard Seeger's research suggests the dry line once represented by the 100th meridian now lies around here, closer to the 98th meridian.
27:30I wondered what changes Paul had seen in the 50 years he's been farming. Paul isn't like many Kansas farmers. He didn't inherit land. What did you start with? Zero. He started renting 80 acres, eventually buying some land. In over five decades, he's grown to roughly 1 ,000 acres. Today, he grows wheat, corn, soybeans, and a little bit of grass hay. We head out in his truck to take a look past acres of green soybeans getting near harvest and fallow wheat fields. I've made my own spreadsheets to calculate the yields and stuff. going back 20 years. Over time, have you seen yields go up with the modern seed breeding and that kind of thing?
28:19I have, but you know what? Also, I've seen yields drop because of drought. And believe me, boy, have I seen them drop. According to U.S. Drought Monitor data going back to 2000, Pauls County has experienced more frequent and severe droughts over the past 15 years. with especially bad years in 2012 and 13, 2018 and 2023. You can do everything right and you still have a disaster waiting. Seems like there's a lot of heartbreak in farming. Oh, there is. You do it for the love of farming, but also, you know what? I'm a businessman too. I got to make money. and I get really angry at myself when I don't make money, you know.
29:10To try to keep making money in drier conditions, Paul has adapted. Around 20 years ago, he started practicing no-till farming. After a harvest, instead of turning the soil over for the next crop, he leaves the stubble, reducing erosion and evaporation and preserving the moisture in the soil. We drive out to one of his cornfields to check how close it is to harvest. And you see all the evidence of, look, you can see. Yeah, that's wheat stubble under our feet, right? And you see corn cobs, you see from the previous corn crop. And in between, I don't know, maybe you can look. Here's a soybean stalk.
29:55The corn is high, above Paul's shoulders. He tears off an ear and shows me how you can estimate yield by counting the kernels. You can break it like that. And now you can count. Let's start with this. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. How's the yield looking based on this? I'm not going to stick my neck out here. But it is better than usual. because, you know, you've heard the definition of an expert farmer, right? No. He's 50 miles away from home. He can brag over there. I see. But at home, someone's going to call him on it? Right, right. Yeah, we know your feels. It ain't that good.
30:48Paul believes this practice of planting in layers of stubble has saved his crop during times of extreme drought. There have been times he's produced a decent crop when his neighbors had zero. This year, though, Paul says has almost been too wet. He pulls up a rainfall app on his phone. You see that line? That line is average for 30 years. The average is about 36 inches. And this year we've already done 42. By September, Paul's already had six more inches of rain than in an entire normal year. Much of it has come in short, intense bursts where only a fraction soaks in, leaving crops stressed. But one wet year doesn't change the trend line toward a hotter, more arid future.
31:38So if Kansas gets a lot drier, generally speaking, or just has a lot more wide swings and variability, how does that impact the rest of the world and our ability to feed a growing population? Well, that would be a serious concern. Obviously, number one, it's going to impact the amount of wheat available, production. It could impact quality depending on how the rainfall patterns are. We have to have a consistent form of moisture so that the nutrients that are needed can be absorbed and taken up by the roots and produce a crop. But for Paul, there's a challenge more immediate than climate change.
32:26Farmers in Missouri and Kansas say they're about to feel a big crunch from the ongoing trade war with China. Retaliatory terrorists from other countries will make selling goods like wheat and corn more difficult. The squeeze is clear when Paul pulls up the numbers on his phone. To break even, he needs to bring in about$7.50 a bushel for wheat. But right now, the market is offering less than$5. What is causing the low prices? Tariff. Trade war. I could use some other expletives, but I won't. We can bleep them out. Okay. Let me have it. Okay. F***ing off our trading partners. And that's what it is.
33:14Before the tariffs, Kansas had a rhythm. Roughly half the wheat moved overseas to countries along the Pacific Rim and in Africa. China bought a lot of the soybeans, as well as corn and milo. But when I visited Paul in mid-September, those markets were drying up in response to U.S. tariffs. And tariffs have also raised prices for farmers, for fertilizer and equipment. Paul says some farmers won't make it. I think you will see evidence of foreclosures. That is on the rise, if you've seen the numbers. And also farmer suicides are on the rise. And that's the nightmare, even if farmers adapt to hotter, drier seasons.
34:04What good is all that if the world has already found someone else to buy from? Shifting now from farming in rural America to farming in cities, many small-scale farmers are facing another challenge these days. Federal funds that helped them find markets for their produce went away this year. Reporting from an unlikely hub for local farming, Marketplace's Elizabeth Troval has this one. When some people think of Houston, they think of chemical plants, humidity, and highways. And those people would be right. But the things that make Houston Houston, its infrastructure, a thriving energy industry, and a warm, wet climate, make it fertile soil.
34:56Fertile soil for newcomers from all over the world, like Toto Alamasi. I'm from Congo, Kinshasa, Congo Democratic. Alamasi shows me around his small business, an acre or so farm off Highway 90 in southwest Houston. He's wearing a bucket hat and a red button down and points to one yellow cucumber plant that's struggling. This is cucumber. You can see. I will need some fertilizer to make it happy. And this is the language, the language of the plant. It doesn't feel good. We walk around, and he holds up a plant with little magenta pods. This is rosal pod, hibiscus. Hibiscus, okay. We grow this in Africa, back home.
35:45Home, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, is the second largest country in Africa. Located smack dab in the middle of the continent, they provide much of the world's cassava, a starchy root vegetable, which Alamasi also grows here. We have cassava, you see? We eat the leaf. We use like a wood fire, the stick. Under the soil, we have cassava. Everything is consumable. Everything is consumable. There's a use for every part of the plant, he says. Back home, the agricultural sector provides jobs to more than 60 % of the Congolese, though most is subsistence farming. You grow food for your own family.
36:28Yeah, in Congo, I had cows. I was farming. I was a teacher. And there was an activity of human rights. Alamasi used to work in human rights in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Over the past 30 years, the country has been decimated by a war that has killed some 6 million people. Conditions remain challenging.
36:59After fleeing his home in 2011, Alamasi came to Houston through the U.S. Refugee Resettlement Program, a program that has since been mostly halted by the Trump administration. After he got here, Alamasi was connected to a nonprofit called Planet Forward, which was created to help refugees learn to farm in Houston. Here, it looks like back home. Only back home, we have only two seasons. He and his wife have adjusted to farming the four seasons here in Houston. It's a full-time job for them. They're out here even on Houston's scorching, humid summer days. I ask if he ever gets lonely out here with his crops.
37:43When we became a farmer, it's like we are talking to the plant. We cannot feel alone. When we are in the bush, we talk with the plant. When you see your plant is good, you feel good. Running a small-scale farm isn't lucrative, but it's been enough for Alamasi and his wife to pay their bills. We sell to the farmer's market, and our big customer is Planted Forward, the organization. Planet Forward buys a lot of produce from Alamasi and other refugee farmers and sells it to wholesale purchasers like the Houston Food Bank. But this year, the Trump administration ended the USDA funding that food banks use to buy produce from Planet Forward's farmers and other local small-scale growers.
38:35It's left food banks with less produce and farmers like Alamasi without buyers for their crops. It's a problem that's top of mind for Planet Forward CEO Najor Rothman, who I meet at the nonprofit's headquarters and food hub where produce is prepared and stored. Rothman chose me around. You can see it's sort of a micro warehouse where the farmers can come in, they could sort out the produce, they could weigh it, they could wash it, they could dehydrate it if they wanted to, they could put it into coolers. Planet Forward is under a major overhaul right now to help keep farmers like Alamosti in business.
39:14They're looking for new buyers and shifting to a more cooperative model. Because Planet Forward's farmers historically worked more independently. Sure, Planet Forward would buy from them and offer support. But they weren't always strategic or centralized about maximizing revenue as a collective. Can we come together and can we prioritize which produce to grow based on what the market demands are? You know, if one farmer is very good at one particular crop, let them do more of that and let the other farmers do less of that. They're also trying to expand their educational mission beyond refugees, working with schools and the formerly incarcerated.
39:51And they want to help farmers get special certifications that would allow them to sell to new buyers like cafeterias. Back at Toto Alamasi's farm in southwest Houston, a sprinkler is running, one of those everyday ones you'd use at home. It's been unseasonably dry in Houston. Here at the farm, I catch up with Trinidadian chef Keisha Griggs, who is trying to help farmers like Alamasi. She's one of Planet Forward's board members and has been buying from refugee farmers for years. I created a dinner series called Black Chef Table. Her meals featured black chefs and growers. So all the food, the meat, the honey, the eggs came from African-American farmers or immigrant farmers that are located here in the city.
40:41And chefs from all over the country came in and we did dinners. That's when her relationship with Planet Forward took off. Every week she'd shop around for fresh ingredients from farmers. She did pay a little more for the produce, but she says the real challenge was being able to regularly find the amount of vegetables she needed that week. It was the accessibility and the consistency that was kind of like, hmm, I don't know. I know I can get it on Tuesday, every Tuesday, you know, my five pounds of whatever. She was able to make time to shop from different small farms each week for her black chef table dinners.
41:17But that's not realistic for most chefs. When you're running a business, you don't have time to do that. That's why it's critical Planet Ford becomes more strategic about what their network of farmers grows so they can have the quality and quantity a restaurant needs. Having the consistency to that model is, I think, where that process will shine. Now she's pitching her colleagues on working with their farmers more intentionally. At a recent meeting of Houston chefs, she asked them about sourcing herbs for things like mocktails. a growing trend in restaurants. And that led me into saying, hey, you know, I'm working with a farm to start the concept of having an exclusive place for chefs to source locally.
42:01But what do you guys think about the fact that you can have a place where you can consistently get your product and produce from? The overwhelming response from chefs? If they can be at my place Tuesday at three o 'clock every day with the things that I need and it's from the local source, I'm down. A lot of the food that makes up Houston's international culinary scene can be grown right here. But organizational change and growing food ecosystems takes longer than a harvest season. And Alamasi has produce he needs to sell now. This year, he can't count on the food bank. He fears what this means for his business.
42:41If even food bank cannot come back, we are afraid how we will continue. Foodbank was our bigger customer. The market cannot finish all. He's not sure what he's going to do. He's not selling enough produce right now to cover his mortgage. Now, we suspect if Foodbank cannot come, we are losing our time. For now, he keeps tending to his farm. In Houston, I'm Elizabeth Troval for Marketplace.
43:16We know the holidays, from the lead-up to Thanksgiving all the way through New Year's, is a busy time for anyone who loves to cook, and cooks a lot. Well, it's especially busy for restaurant chefs and their families, so we wanted to know, how do high-end chefs with fully booked restaurants and specials on the menu deal with all that pressure? How do they balance the expectations of delivering a stellar restaurant experience and meeting their own expectations for family time and family feasting? To find out, Marketplace's Mitchell Hartman grabbed some quality time with a power couple in Portland, Oregon's restaurant scene.
44:00I slipped into a booth at the back of the couple's two-time Beard Award-nominated restaurant. It's in an urban mini-mall with a covered patio outside, warm lighting and a heady aroma of spices inside. Tropical fruit and seafood prints cover the tables and walls. I'm Thomas Pisha Duffley. And I'm Mariah Pisha Duffley. We're at Gata Gata Restaurant in Portland, Oregon. And yeah, they often finish each other's sentences. They're originally from the Boston area. Mariah has decades of experience running the front of the house. Tom's been a line cook. He's classically trained in French and Italian cuisine.
44:40About a decade ago, the couple started traveling to Indonesia. Yeah, my family is both Dutch and Indonesian. They have like a rich shared history for good and for worse. And there's a lot of Dutch influence in parts of Indonesia. The Indonesian cooking Tom knew from growing up. When there was family around, we'd either be doing, you know, lobster boil or when my grandmother came to visit, having gato gato. It means mix-mix. It's a classic Indonesian street food, a messy pile of vegetables, shrimp crackers, and eggs topped with spicy peanut sauce. Through multiple trips to Jakarta, they became street food connoisseurs.
45:19Mariah was blown away by the intense smells. Having the steam from it all over my face. Tom loved the direct connection between food stall cook and customer packed together on a hot sidewalk. Your goal is to create this delicious thing and get it into my mouth. There's not the server finding a table, and it becomes distilled down to that one experience. The couple moved to Portland in 2016 and began planning their new restaurant, inspired by Jakarta street food, but with a higher concept menu, featuring Indonesian, Dutch, Pacific Northwest cuisine. Gato Gato opened in 2019 and was an instant hit.
45:58As we're talking, a waiter delivers our sampling menu. We've got our beef rendang, candied anchovies, our Malaysian flatbread. And as we dive in, Tom describes the specialty of the house, a sauce called gula jawa. Palm sugar, sweet soy, and we steep it with chilies and lime leaf, ginger, lemongrass. But the constant grilling and dipping of the chicken imbues it with this smoky little bit of the original sauce that we made however many years ago. So we keep it so it just builds in depth and flavor. It's almost like a sauce mother. Mothers actually come up a lot with Tom. In fact, the Pisha Duffley's second Portland restaurant, which specializes in Malaysian-Singaporean street food, is named Oma's Hideaway for Tom's grandmother, Kyung Tien Tina Vandenberg.
46:49My Oma, my mom's mom, and my mom's grandma, who all lived in the same house in Oxnard, California, they were these like big figures in my life growing up. Cooking, they made the rules. Yeah, your family is very like matriarchal. You have some powerful mother figures. My mother was the cook. She did the shopping and the planning. And you know, all this while she juggled a job, she was a Supreme Court justice in Massachusetts, the first Asian woman judge. But she would always come home and make us dinner. Fresh pasta, lasagna with artichokes and mushrooms. Now, you might think that running two restaurants open seven nights a week, that Pisha Duffley's wouldn't have time for a lot of home-cooked meals, the kind Tom grew up with.
47:33But this is where Tom and Mariah buck the restaurant world trend of extreme work-life imbalance, as depicted in the culinary press and top chef-type reality TV. With a five-year-old daughter, they've prioritized home cooking and dining as a core family value. They've got a particular division of labor, says Mariah. Tom's the chef. I do other stuff. Strategic business decisions. You're being a little... I mean, Mariah runs the show, and I just warm things up in a pan, basically. So I wanted to know, what does he warm up in a pan when he's working as home chef? A few days later, we were standing around the kitchen of the Pisha Duffley's modest two-bedroom house.
48:18daughter Loretta was at elementary school and Tom was setting up the family dinner chopping peaches and fresh herbs for a spicy salad
48:31I'm pretty hungry I don't think I eat better they're still good yeah that peach is a little they're really good and prepping his own version of Thai Indonesian chicken I'm going to fry it, and then I'm going to smash it a little bit, the fried chicken, in that mortar and pestle with some sambal, and then fry it again. And this is my grandmother's Indonesian mortar and pestle. For making spice pastes, you're expressing out the flavors and the juices. He was frying up a piece without the spicy Indonesian sauce for Loretta, who's a picky eater. Now, to me, this home-cooked family meal Tom is preparing seems pretty fancy.
49:11like restaurant fancy. He says they've actually gone a lot more down market than this. There have been times we opened two restaurants, had a kid. We were ordering takeout a lot. Pizza, Chinese. Tom says it was nice not to cook for a change, but then? Like it kind of sucked because it removed cooking for somebody, sitting down to eat, doing the dishes. And gradually something shifted in their family life. As Loretta got a little bit older, we realized the importance of sitting down to eat. And we were like, no, no, no. Okay, we're going to cook at home. It doesn't have to be fancy. It often is like very not fancy.
49:51I can get behind a really well done hot dog. Sometimes we buy frozen meatballs. This week you were like, I'm going to make meatballs with Loretta. I'm going to show her that you can use like a little honey and a little cheese in your meatballs. And then as we're serving them, she's like, mama, I made these. These are the juiciest meatballs you've ever had. The couple has reassessed their priorities around holiday meals as well. I cook a lot. I cook for a living. I cook at home. Sometimes it's hard to dig up the energy, especially around the holidays when the restaurants are busy, to want to commit to cooking 10 things on my day off.
50:24No more turkey three ways, a dozen mains and sides, breads and pies from mom's original recipe pouring out of a hot, crowded kitchen, like Tom's family did for decades. Recently, we've kind of done a big about face, at least at Thanksgiving. My sister lives here in town, will host us. And we just, we don't cook. We get takeout. And what that has done for us is like much more time with the kids playing, playing cards, hanging out, much more like FaceTime and less like time in the kitchen. The first time they did takeout a few years ago, Tom says there was a big feeling of letdown, like they were committing holiday family feast sacrilege.
51:02Not anymore. I feel like especially food media is just stuffing down your throat. No pun intended, but good pun. Roast the perfect chicken, 12 sides for your family holiday. What to bring? Like that is what we've been taught we have to do. Instead, he says, cut yourself a break. Do taco night on Thanksgiving. Hot dogs with all the fixings for Christmas dinner or a New Year's bash. Whatever keeps your family eating together. I'm Mitchell Hartman for Marketplace. I don't know about you, but all this has me hungry for some of my family's holiday traditions. We always make a big batch or three of good old-fashioned Chex Mix.
51:42I like to bake Linzer cookies, you know, the buttery ones with jam and powdered sugar. And Christmas enchiladas, New Mexico style, with green chili on one side and red on the other. Oh, and don't forget the black-eyed peas for New Year's. I'm Amy Scott. You've been listening to Feeding the Family, a Marketplace special about the business and economics of food this holiday season. Emma Condon produced this special with help from our senior producer, Haley Hirschman, editing by Caitlin Esch, scoring and mixing by Brian Allison, Kelly Silvera is news director, Joanne Griffith is chief content officer, and Neil Scarborough is the vice president and general manager of Marketplace.
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From the publisher
For many people gathering around the table this holiday season, things feel a little different. Maybe it’s the cost of ingredients that’s on your mind, or cuts to USDA funding that have left your food bank running low. Or maybe it’s the simple reality of a packed schedule — there’s a lot to cook, and so little time.
In this special from Marketplace, we bring listeners a collection of stories on the business and economics of food. Our reporters take us across the country to farms, home kitchens, and restaurants. We visit a refugee farmer in Houston, a chocolate-making lab in California, and stop for a bite at an award-winning restaurant in Portland.




