#731 - Danny Polishchuk - Banned On Instagram, Britney Spears & Alex Jones

25:36Yeah, yeah, don't go home with strangers or whatever and like I don't even think he did like I don't think there was an incident. They just abducted him to kind of teach him this lesson, uh, you know kind of get ahead of it. preemptive well that's the fucking horseshoe of like helicopter parenting that it comes back around to just super extreme mistreatment of your kid yeah in the guys of you know I'm helping them you're like this kid is gonna have this trauma forever the other one the other side that's like oh yeah my kid will be fine it's like it's the same idea my kid will be fine my kid will be fine with me mock fucking abducting him yeah this thing but there's no shortage of those kids who were like Yeah, my parents worked and you know I had a lot of autonomy in those I seem to be okay I was fine, maybe I got a little bit of trouble, but...

26:17You see the stuff about peanut allergies, the increase in peanut. That was another one, and Jonathan, I think, was because they tripled the amount of peanut allergies because they removed peanuts. Yeah, so if you grow up in a household that has a washing machine, like a dishwasher, that doubles your chances of asthma, and if you grow up in a house that has a dog, it harps your chances of asthma, because you just get exposed to dirt. So basically you're double and then you double again the chances of it. Why the dishwasher? Dishwasher presumably just cleans. It's just this environment. So it's such a sterile way that you don't get the tiny little doses of germs.

26:56And the same for dogs, dogs coming in and out, bringing dirt in. And check playing in the grass. Yeah. So yeah, there's just ways where you can sterilize the environment so much that instead of it making kids and people safer, what it does is create such a protected environment that there is no where, that they never deal with any kind of discomfort. And this is culturally, ideologically, psychologically, mentally, emotionally, the exact same thing we see with toxic compassion. Yeah. I mean, I'm waiting for the shoot to drop on hand sanitizer being bad for you. You think? There's so many things we were, me and Ryan, were just talking about it.

27:30How all the stuff they used to be bad for you is now good for you. Like, remember, I don't know, but like, my mom was very much, even still, she hasn't come around to, you know, it's like you got to eat breakfast. You have to eat breakfast. It's like, you'll die. If you don't eat breakfast, now everybody's like, don't eat breakfast. It's like, you gotta eat now everybody's like fasting. It's all the stuff. It's literally, bro sciences beat down mom science. And mom science is just kind of a reeling, but it just, I don't know. I won't be surprised if it'll be something similar with the hand sanitizer where they go.

27:59People are hand sanitizing too much and it's causing rise and warmer. Downstream from that. Well, we've been doing these meat and greets after the show, which is really great, But you do realize that like if if anybody of these 600 people that I've just shook hands and taken a photo and like hugged or like You know like slap five with yeah, if any of them. It's like I've just got I got it all We did get COVID all of us got COVID separately James and Australia Luke in the UK me in Austin We all got COVID about two months before the show at the tour began and we were like tour antibodies like fuck Yeah, like we've done it.

28:30I'm gonna be immune. Yeah me. Jit he went on tour and just got wrecked by like other like different viruses Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the nature of how it goes, but yeah, I don't know. It's unavoidable. Like I was just on the train over here. One thing I still find so difficult to understand is couples were ones masked and ones not, because surely the one that's unmasked will then give you whatever you're trying to avoid, right? Am I missing something? But I see it all the time. Like a couple were one's masks. But like how are you gonna get in the same bed tonight? Yeah, like you're gonna kiss later.

29:12So I don't know, I don't know. Maybe there's someone who's way smarter than me who can explain that to me. Cause I see it all the time. Like I saw it literally just on the train right over here. We were in Bantanth in Alberta. Yeah. And yeah, there was people walking out and about in what looks like the cleanest air in the world. Oh, it's like that. Yeah, you can like, yes, it's the best. Heurist air on the planet. And yeah, people still outdoor masking, which I didn't, I did reflect on this a little bit, like how I feel now about like someone in a car on their own or something, you know, when people wore masks and cars, someone out and about in fresher, at this stage of post pandemic, like fucking non -case risk, It doesn't make me think people who were so vehement against any masking ever, like no one should ever have to do it.

30:05It's like, well, maybe just my judgment of the situation is that my sensitivity needed it to be a few years later. Yeah. Whereas they were like, even now in the midst of it, even though we don't know it, that's like how... And I mean, do what you want. You know, like this is America. Like that's the most ethos of this country is. It's more, it's like, if you want to wear a mask in a car, like that's your right. The problem was when they were saying you have to knew it and then people are like, okay, well, that's very much on American, you know, to make anybody do anything. But, I mean, have you spent any time in Asia?

30:37Yeah, a little bit. So since COVID. But so they've been, you know, like I travel in Asia 15 years ago and you'd walk around and everybody's wearing masks. Yeah, that was for air quality and stuff, right? Well, air quality and I think they had had some kind of smaller pandemics and they just are generally, and I'd look, I do think if you were very strict about it and proper. I'm sure it does somewhat lower your risk of getting ill to a stomach. Well, there's like, he could play a pretty good game. I just don't care that much. We could play quite a good, we actually did play a pretty good game of Asian or COVID, which is like why they wearing the mask.

31:15Is it because of like historical air quality? Yeah. Or is it because of COVID? Yeah, I heard in Thailand actually, someone explained to me that some people, because they wear these really big masks that go literally here. And it's because they, their class system, like many other places is the more tan you are. Yes, the lower class you are. So it's at, and skin whitening's huge in Thailand. Dude, I went to Thailand. I saw this, the girls that worked at the front of the restaurants, the secretaries for like offices, for massage places, all of that stuff would have like lighter skin. But you can see there's a line here.

31:50And it's, it's just completely drove home. How culturally inculcated I was in the UK. For me to look at that and say, how strange. Like purposefully making your skin lighter because people who work in the fields are seen as like indigent laborers. That means that they're of lower status. The people who have white collar jobs that work in doors they don't get turned. How silly that you were trying to lighten your skin. I go back to Newcastle upon time, the place where the British version of Jersey Shore was filmed, to see girls make their faces fucking orange to give the appearance of, you know, spend time outside and I can go to my Bayer whenever I want.

32:26Right, right. And it's the exact same, but in reverse. Yeah, that's pretty funny. And I just didn't see it. I was like, how strange. As I go back to Newcastle to get caked in fake time. Right. I guess it's the quickest way to signal something, right? It's just visually. Visually, like, it's the equivalent of wearing a Rolex. Yeah, but for clothes. Such a strange quirk. I'll never forget one of my friends who's a DJ. I told me this story. We kind of the, you said like cultural thermometer of what you're used to anchoring off and what you actually, you go to someone new and everything's upside down, fucking bar stores being turned around.

32:58He went and played a gig, DJ gig in South America. He's a DJ, he parties, he wanted some cocaine. He's like, I mean, like fucking Ecuador or Argentina or Colombia or some shit, he's like, I'm fucking, that source is here. Yeah. Like the fountain of cocaine in here. So he goes to the promoter and he's like, when you get me some cocaine and he looked at him and was like, are you sure? It's like, yes, I would like some cocaine. He's like, fucking hell man, I mean, I can get you some, but he was thinking, oh God, maybe there's gonna be police, maybe there's like the prison sentences for it are really high or it's like very high, you know, we're gonna involve us on some gang stuff.

33:35What it turned out was that people who do cocaine in these areas, it's seen as super dirty, it's seen as scummy drug. But was it 3 TB or something? What's that? Yes, 2 TB. Yeah, the pink stuff. 2 TB. Yeah, 2 TB is seen as the high class. Yeah, yeah. Because it's so hard to get a hold of down there. So he, the drug is the same. And in fact, probably of way better quality than the stepped on shit that you'll buy. Not even a new question. But because the cultural position, like the map of that particular terrain, was like, like this is easy and cheap to get. So it just completely shows that the value of the thing is not intrinsic of the thing.

34:17It is the difficulty of acquisition and the price. Yeah, yeah, like the cultural. And like, 2CB is like, it's like hot. If you've ever seen it, it's hot pink. Yes, like this is weird thing. Yeah, like, oh God, yeah, so. Yeah, I don't know. I had this guy on my calling show, Johann Grillo, if you ever heard of him. I do know him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's amazing. He's amazing. I was talking to him and he's like a narco reporter in Mexico or whatever. And he was saying actually, yeah, cocaine is like popular, but it's not the most popular drugs actually, I think math right now. And they have no issues, because all the fentanyl comes over the border, but they have like no issues with fentanyl there.

34:52Like the biggest place in Philadelphia, have you heard of trink? Yeah, yeah. Trink's like fentanyl's fentanyl. It's for people like make you like skin peel. And just people, yeah, like bits of you drop off. It's like leprosy in a drug. Yeah. Yeah, and he went to this place in Philadelphia and filmed this. I'm on like a campaign to get Douglas Murray acquired by the Daily Wire. That's that time with Jeremy Boring the CEO and I was like, dude, you need to acquire Douglas Murray. So anyway, fucking Jeremy, if you watch him, go and do it. But Douglas went and filmed this thing. He hasn't released it yet.

35:25But yeah, he went to Philadelphia and apparently like, Trank has just taken over the city. So like Fentanyl, heroin not enough, fentanyl not enough, and then there's car fentanyl. Yeah, which is even more potent. It's a fentanyl fentanyl. And then this is like car fentanyl's car fentanyl. Yeah, I'll try and. Yeah, it's I mean, it's sad that people are, yeah, I don't know, to get to the point where you kind of that's what you need. Like even fentanyl's not doing it for you. Shit that would just like a self -destruct on the head of a pin. Yeah, is not enough for you. Yeah, well, you do develop a massive tolerance.

35:58I got a friend of mine who's a doctor in Vancouver, British Columbia. and they have a big drug problem there and they've decriminalized all drugs. And she was telling, because I was asking about the fentanyl thing, she's like, yeah, the thing is with fentanyl is heroin users can't get heroin, or sometimes it's actually vice versa where people go to heroin actually, because it might be a little cheaper, I can't remember. But anyways, she says, you know, they use so much fentanyl that they just, you develop a massive tolerance to it. That means like fucking passively smoking, trying to get high and nicked.

36:29Kind of, but yeah, but you just keep building up this tolerance. So the people who actually die from fentanyl, are the ones who have never ingested it in it. It gets cross contaminated. And so they have no... If you're the spice, is spice a thing over here? Spices, like, it's like fake weed or something? Yes, yes, yes. So I watch a lot of cops. The show cops, it's like a guilty pleasure of mine. And it's actually sad because a lot of episodes, like segments and cops, is they're like arresting someone for spice. I'm like, why is this even illegal? And the problem is because weed's illegal, it's all in Florida.

37:02Like you always see people get arrested for spice in Florida. And I guess spice was like recently criminalized, but it wasn't always because I guess it's, like you know, it popped up and then they take some time to make a legal. But so people are forced to take it because they can't smoke weed, which is harmless essentially. Like I mean, not harmless, but relatively on the scale of drugs it is, you know, I'm like, sure, it might give you some bad habits or whatever, but, you know, relatively forcing people to smoke spice and then they're getting arrested for spice. Yeah. There's a, I think the way it works, maybe wrong with this, I mean, fucking spice, but I'm pretty sure that it is in a spray bottle and that you spray the, whatever the stuff is that you smoke with this particular solution.

37:46But I remember watching this thing on YouTube and this guy is wearing literally wearing like three pairs of fucking surgical gloves because if even a tiny bit of it at this, you know, and he's like, they're spraying it at a distance at like a fucking plant sprayer. And he's like, if you even got a little bit of this on you at that concentrate, it'll be like, you know, LSD, you know, it would just completely destroy you. It's super dangerous. So yeah, it's just this. That's one of the things I wish I'd brought it up with Jeremy actually, but that's one of the things that I would criticize the right for, this obsession with modern newsworthy, like sexy stories, like stuff to do with like trans books and schools and all the rest of this shit.

38:26It's like, the fentanyl problem seems like, like a really big deal that's just killing people fucking straight away. But I'm not really hearing anyone, on the left or the right, really talk about that. It's just like, yeah, it's one of those things where, I should under the rug. Yeah, I think so. I think it's one of those things where, where you can't, you don't stop that problem by enforcement. It's like you almost have to stop the people who wanted, which is the chicken, the add war on drugs thing. Trying to mix the fuck people. There's no way that you can stop every truck that comes into the United States from Mexico.

39:03It's impossible. They can maybe stop even search 10 % of them. And the problem with fentanyl is you need like a thing this big to kill 10 million people. Yeah, because it's so concentrated. It's so concentrated, right? So... Is it right that it's supposed to be China that produces almost all the... China, this is what Yorong Girl told me. They produce the precursor. So there's like a precursor that you required. And then so what happens is China. But these are like above the water, like above board, you know, like just legitimate farm from pharmaceutical companies who make this precursor. And then Mexican cartels are essentially acquiring it.

39:41So presumably that precursor is even more concentrated. So you need even less of that. Yeah, I don't know if that's how it works if it's specifically a concentrated form or it's just one of the ingredients that on its own is I don't think is necessarily toxic or maybe it is, but it's not fentanyl on its own. But if you get that one precursor and then you add it to this essentially like a recipe, I guess. I'm no expert on this, but that's what it's all called. Yeah, essentially, yeah. But so, and then he, I can't remember exactly what he told me, but something along the lines of like they had, like, you know, the DA tried to do some things with these Chinese companies, and then kind of like they're unable to really stop them because it's, I don't know, it's some sort of, and I think China says, you know, we'll try and crack down on these, but again, they're not technically illegal because fentanyl is used by hospitals, and you know, like if you have some massive surgery, they will give you some of these things.

40:37Yes. As painkillers, like they are like real painkillers, but like anything you get abused. So did you see Kim Jong -un wiping away tears as he asked North Korean women to have more children? Yeah. And then the funniest thing is they're all in the audience and they're all the moment. The moment one tear, they're all just like,

40:58they want to get in trouble. Yeah. The assessment show that the fertility rate in North Korea has been falling for a decade amid increasing concerns within families over lots of money being needed to raise children and food. North Korean leader Kim Jong -un appeared to wipe away tears as he urged women to halt a decline in the country's birth rate. Mr Kim seemed dabbing his eyes with a handkerchief in a rare moment of emotion as he addressed the national mother's meeting in Pyongyang. The Hyundai Institute report said that North Korea's population was expected to shrink starting in 2034. Yeah, that's, I don't know.

41:33I don't know what their demographic situation is like. Confox. The South Korea, I think, is at 0 .6 or 0 .8 as a birth rate. 2 .1 is replaced. 2 .1 is replaced. And they, for every 100 South Koreans alive right now, there will be four great grandchildren. It's a 96 % extinction rate over the next 100 years. Is there any country that's above 2 .1? Yes, so like funnily enough, the highest on the planet, Chad. Chad, yeah, yeah, just like the... Because that chads. Nice. No, yeah, that's the highest, but even Sub -Saharan Africa, every 15 years, the number of children that each mother has is decreasing by one.

42:16So I think it's about seven now, and then in 15 years it'll be six, and then in 15 years it'll be five, and 15 years it'll be four. Sub -Saharan, the average family size is seven children. At the moment, yeah, well, I don't know whether that is per woman or per mother because that's different. There are some women who don't have kids. And if you do that, if you actually look at that number in America, the number is still the same as it's always been, it's like 2 .3. Mothers have about 2 .3 children or 2 .5 children or something like that. It's the non -mothers that is increasing. They're going to have zero.

42:45If you have one, you end up having like two and a half. Yeah, but if you have none, you keep having none. Yeah, you keep having none. So yeah, do that whole birthright thing. But that's that's one of the things that Gina Pete is Ion you seen that dude. No, it's like a geopolitics guy. I had him on the show a little while you did Rogan to and China's population is gonna half basically over the next life. That's so funny that they had their one child policy Fucked it and it was such a disaster But at the time it seemed like such a necessary great idea and Then it was like maybe one of the most short -sighted things because you can't just like undo that you don't snap your fingers and go, okay, back to, or however many you want, you're like, no, the damage from that policy is 100 years.

43:30Yeah, wild. Well, I mean, the choice between, like famine now or like extinction later is, I don't know, like, I guess, yeah, yeah, but yeah, they're, because they have, I mean, it seems like everybody has huge demographic issues. I guess America, English -speaking Western countries, they'll can fix that with just immigration, whereas China's probably a tougher place to immigrants. Yeah, they can. But I mean, that's just kind of kicking the can down the road. If you have like a total global population like this, which is ultimately what matters. Yeah. And you just start trying to fucking move chess pieces around so you don't get any more chess pieces.

44:06Right. That is true. Yeah. I don't, because I had a, this is total conspiracy theory based on nothing. but when Roe v. Wade got repealed, that was my conspiracy brain was like, they're doing that because, you know, they gave America the choice to have more... To have more kids and they go, you're not having more kids, so we're just gonna force it on the edition. And we don't care how they come in or what, they just, we need bodies. The additional conspiracy theory on top of that, which I heard someone give me, was who are the people that are the least able? If you restrict access to abortion, who are the people that are least able to skirt round the rules, to poor people that become the work of drones.

44:46Exactly. So it was just, we need some more fucking blue collar like widget. Yeah, exactly. And at the end of the day, the way the economy is set up is essentially, like I don't want to say like a pyramid scheme, but it kind of is, like it just, it requires more people. Like the way that, you know, having a steady like 2 % growth every year that they aim for and, you know, like you just, you need more growth. That's all the, that's how the whole game is set up is just more people, right? They don't care. Like I mean obviously to agree you want which people but you just need more people. I know it's a learn.

45:21I've watched so many different explainers about how the global, the currency finance system and this embedded growth obligation and debt -based financing. Yeah. Like if you continue to kind of grow it, then it's almost like a Ponzi scheme within itself where no one realizes that the new money is like feeding the old debt. Well, kind of, and just new, new, like, you know, real estate, for example, like you just, they always want to be building more and putting people in those things and putting people in those new houses. They don't ever, you don't ever want a scenario where they're just like those Chinese ghost towns, you know, like, and that's how they kind of set everything up.

45:57So they're just kind of slowly just building more things and they need people to take those things and more people. I have to watch you know more people. All of these fucking things, dude, I still kind of don't fully understand how it works. I need, I should probably just bring someone on this one. It's just more people. Just more people means more people means they need somewhere to live and they consume more they buy more stuff like you know That's that's I you know again some theories about why they're opening up the Southern border as they're just like those people are still Regardless of how you feel about it and people people there's still people and they're still consumers They still have to buy toilet paper and they have to eat and they have to get around and you know most of them You know some people are very uncharitable I'm not most of them will try and work and they want to work obviously some because a lot of people are like Oh, they'll just you know live off the government tea kind of thing I think that's a very small percentage of those people most of people just want about our life But I was in their position.

46:45I would do the exact same thing If I live in some central American country with 50 % unemployment rate and I I knew that I mean it's crazy Because they're not even all central southern Americans. They're coming from all China China whatever and you know But I was in the position, I probably do the same thing. Dude, if you heard what happens if you're a Cuban and you wanted like, Escape Cuba. Oh, crazy. So we have a mutual friend who did a film event of some kind in Canada, I think. And told me this story, so he did this one thing and then his brother did a different thing. I'm pretty sure he filmed the whole, filmed the entirety of this like fucking journey that he was on.

47:27I was like, I ain't a fucking second. Like this is like seeking asylum from a war -stricken country. I didn't realize that Cuba, I think it sounds so stupid. I didn't realize that Cuba was like a place that first of your kind of not allowed to leave, doesn't want you to leave. And if you're in country, that's every communist country is, you're not allowed to leave. But you've got, the US has basically got this rule where if you come from presumably Venezuela as well, and also maybe China, although I don't know, it's just like, hey, we'll give you asylum, and don't worry. And yeah, this guy told me, so he did this thing where he snuck out at four in the morning from some event, and it was literally like a game of chicken.

48:08So he was leading this team of people, maybe there were like videography team or something like that. And I think he maybe had a partner that was with him. And he knew because he was the leader, that if anybody else left the party that he was a part of, he would be culpable. So he was like, I'm just gonna fucking go before anyone else does. So him and game theory kind of exactly it's pretty much dilemma. Yeah, and him and his partner Leave at 4 a .m. in the morning like sneakily like pack their stuff get out hitchhike their way blah blah blah Do all of this shit need to get stopped get to the American border.

48:41Hey, we're from Cuba. Yeah Give us a silent and then his brother does the same thing But travels like by land from fucking Cuba through Guatemala through Belize through like fucking Well, there's the whole thing they all just because it's only like 60 miles from Miami, right? Cuba from is only six really oh, it's so close that that's so like there's all these There's all these baseball players because Cuba's like has some of the best baseball players in the world and you know Is he Cuban? I think so yeah exactly the guy on the rangers exactly and they've had you know endless amounts of good players But they're not allowed to leave but some of them are like if I could just get 60 miles like like El Ducay who you simply for the Yankees, I think those are Orlando Hernandez in the 90s, but he just like, dead of night, they help on like a rickety raft, kind of like, you know, and they get over.

49:32And if you can just get to shore, there's a $5 million baseball contract waiting for you. 50, yeah, yeah, yeah. 100 million for some of these guys. Some of these guys are like instantly, some of the top players in the league, but there's end, you know, they do like the world baseball classic stuff where Cuba fields a team. And there's always, you know, same with like Olympics and there's always like a couple guys who just defect, right? But the problem is is that there's, you know, your family's still in Cuba. And so now you like they probably have some issues. It's probably like a thing of like shame to a degree.

50:04Well, the North Korean thing is if you break the rules, it's not just you and your family that get persecuted. It's like eight generations. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're extra damn. and your fucking future great, great, great, great, great, grand daughter to being like a fucking minor or something. Yeah, like my parents are from Russia. And like when my parents left, my mom's dad was in like the Communist Party in Russia, you know, like this is in the 70s. And when she left, he got kicked out. Like they gave him the boot and he was like a good, like, you know, communist, you know, he was like, he fought in the Red Army, against the Nazis, all that stuff.

50:41like he was like a war hero and then they were just like well you know you did a bad job raising your child. Because your punishment thing is one hell of a yeah like a motivator. Yeah it's it's it's fucking wild man. Do you see this undercover video shows porn hub employees want porn to steer young people sexually? I saw I saw I saw I saw that trending I didn't actually watch the video so it's just like a kind of project veritas type thing. Exactly like that yeah employees of pondhub's parent company were caught on camera touting the benefits of underage kids watching pornography and even suggesting that making videos of transgender identifying people engaging in sex could help young people figure out the sexuality according to a new video released exclusively on the Michael Knowles show on Wednesday.

51:22Employee Dylan Rice, a senior script writer at the company. Script writer. They still do that? I don't know. The scene arguing that pornography usage could be beneficial for preteens. Let's say you're 12 years old, you're still figuring out your sexuality, maybe even your gender. Wouldn't it be helpful to see a celebration, but maybe just the normalization of something that you think is what you want. Rice is seen saying rice went on specifically reference a pornography site centered around transgender individuals remarking, let's say I was 12 and I saw trans angels. It would help me figure out what I do like and what I don't like.

51:54Um, I mean, I guess I don't know. I'm not sure like, you know, I haven't gone through every category of porn websites, but I imagine there's quite something for everybody there. Do you know what India, the second most popular type of porn in India is? No. Breastfeeding. Breastfeeding porn, dude, it's so strange. So this is from Seth Stephen Davidowitz's book, everybody lies. And he, his argument was basically you tell Google things that you don't even tell yourself like a journal or your partner because it's what do you want? Not what do you think about like writing and reflecting on? Yeah. And he looked at porn hub data and it's just breastfeeding porn.

52:37isn't big anyway. It's not even big in like surrounding countries, whatever the fuck surround India. It's not big. Indian people, Indian men specifically just seem to fucking love breastfeeding porn. Weird. And is there any, uh, theories to why? He gave me like some, because cows are sacred. Oh, wow. He's like deep. Yeah. Yeah. It's like some fucking religious. Deep symbolism here. Yeah. I don't know. Um, but yeah, this, I don't know, like, I've been I'm thinking this more and more about the, some of the exposé, shit that we see online, there was a screen grab of maybe a tender conversation or a dating conversation that went mega hyper, hyper viral of a guy saying that he wanted a traditional wife and the woman saying, that's really great because that's what I want to.

53:25And then he accused her of being a gold digger because she said that she would stay at home. And it's like early days dating or whatever. But it just like reading it seemed so not the way that people text. There was unnecessary exposition about the fact that they went for dinner last night. And I knew that I shouldn't have done that. And she was like, what do you mean? I paid for the bill at dinner last night. And it was like, this is fake. It just feels a little bit clunky. That seemed like a fucking false flag. But the same thing with like some of the fucking secret camera shit. And then also the same for on -street interviews, like the on -street interviews, the ones that make these compilations, like what didn't make it?

54:06Like how many people said, I'm just really looking for someone that kind of respect me and love cool, and rich people. That's not going viral. No, yeah. It's always the worst stuff, you know? And yeah, you don't know. Like it could be legitimately, we talked to a thousand people, two of them said the worst shit you've ever heard of. And that's the only one that's interesting, I guess. It's this weird combination of, is it legit? So is what you're seeing contrived, made it like the set of screenshots that I think was. And okay, let's say that that's not, was this an unfair representation of what most people saw?

54:45And then what does what they said actually mean is what they're saying what they meant to say. Yeah. And is that actually how they're going to show up in the like. How did it like, oh man, dude, like every time I think about it, and it's like flugging a dead horse about like, oh, it's so hard to work out what the facts are. And people can't even agree on what the word truth means. Oh, we can't agree on anything anymore. It's wild. It's insane. Every argument now is just everybody talking past each other. Everybody almost seems like when they're arguing, there seems like there might be some resolution like everybody feels like someone like they say the point every goes, all right, yeah, okay, we've sorted it out, but it's not.

55:22Everybody is just you're on your side. And just, you know, just pixicide and then they're staying on that side. It's very rare. I think right now where people's minds are changed. When was the last time I keep thinking about this on Twitter? No one ever actually breaks the fourth wall on Twitter and says, hey, that was out of order, like you can't say that. It's always this, like, clap back, satirical game of tennis where you're trying to be wittier or more cutting than what the last person said. And it's all, like, sardonic, passive, aggressive, like, quote, fucking sub -tweeting what the last person said.

55:55Yeah. It's never someone like just going like, hey, hey, that's out of order. Right. I don't actually fucking treat it like an actual conversation. No, no, no, no. I mean, you know what, the closest I've seen to some, which was like, brought me so much joy. I thought it was the funniest thing to some sort of argument that resolved was in, I posted this video about, because since the, it's been going on for a while, it used to be like like really dark web kind of stuff, like white supremacist stuff, but these charts of how Jews that are representation of Jews and things, like in, I don't know if you've seen it, there'll be, it'll say like all the Jews in politics or the media or whatever, and these giant charts.

56:36Remember Kanye, he held up that, he had his thing about the spreadsheet. So then once the war started, all these anti -Israel people were like, look at all these Jews that are, and so then I made this sketch, And it was the guy that researchers how many Jews are in things. And I'm like this very just like autistic, just like I just like knowing how many Jews are in things. And I just make these lists or whatever of Jews are in things. And it went like really viral. And then in the comments was this guy and is like like he goes, what's so funny? Like you know, well, because essentially a guy is like, who had his list and then he goes, he goes, my list is, he goes, here's, and he had a drive link of a public list that he made.

57:15and then he started getting in an argument with another guy who's like, I have a list and my list is actually better. It's more thorough. And then they were like in the comments going back and forth with each other about whose list of Jews. Dictator incompetent. But it was a concise, dick measure. But it was there, it was, they were just like, whose has a more accurate list of Jews that are represented in thing. And then they were arguing and then they finally, the one guy goes, you know what, I looked at yours and yours is actually better than mine. And then the kind of like became in friends.

57:46Oh my God. And I was like, oh my God. You watched a burgeoning bromance a couple of homies. Yeah, in my comments, I screen shot it at all. That's because I thought it was the funniest thing and they essentially started off as enemies. Dude, it's been a fucking rough year for Jews this year. Like, but honestly, like between Kanye and fucking Midnight. Well, everybody's so surprised about the, the what's going on now with the Jewish stuff, but I saw it firsthand with the Kanye stuff because when the Kanye thing, you know, I was commenting on that and, you know, like I was making sketches around that.

58:18And so I would see going YouTube on it on, and it was, you know, pretty much all in favor of Kanye. So then, so I was not surprised now. People are like, what's going on? People don't like Jews, huh? And I'm like, yeah, I've seen that for, that's kind of been bubbling up. I think that's always kind of under the surface, literally for the last 3 ,000 years. But I don't have my head at my ass that much. I notice trends and I pay attention to shit as best I can. And I had no fucking idea that there was this much latent anti -semitism. Yeah, it's just, it's kind of, it's like herpes. It's like a cultural herpes where it just, it has these outbreaks, like these flare ups, you know?

59:00And then it kind of like goes away and then it kind of flares up again. And then I, yeah, it is really weird to see because I have some friends who kind of don't realize Because I get it, because I comment on this stuff a lot. A lot of the sketches I make are like around this stuff, like the ones I personally make, not with Ryan. And yeah, and then like some of the, you just see like insane comments. But I mean, I don't know. Well, I mean, people have started to use ice. The only thing I can do is just make fun of it. There's no, you know, it's still only. Even the episode I did with Petersen a couple of weeks ago, there was a bunch of comments calling him Jude and - You didn't Peter's died.

59:34Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeah. I love him. Rob is, I'm like, yeah, I find it so funny. You know, I think a lot of Jews don't find it funny. They're like, this is more serious. And you know, I guess that could be determined. I sometimes joke about it where I make too much fun of this stuff. And then I'm, you know, getting put on a train and I go, I made too much fun of that. I should have taken them more seriously. Alex Jones tells Tokikalson, the president by done walks around the White House naked He had drugged on anphetamines and benzos, as Elon Musk says that he's considering allowing Alex Jones back on X.

1:00:14Yeah, yeah, I've that. I mean, I don't know about that. I mean, I suppose it's possible. What, everyone's been? They should let him back on though. Everyone's been speculating for quite a while about what they've had to pump Biden with in order to roll him out on stage. Yeah. You know, like some, like sort of punch drunk WWE start. like Hulk Hogan coming back for another, like a cord is all shot in the knee. Yeah, yeah. And like fucking opioids for my spine. And you know, you're chiropractors gonna come in and do this thing. I, I don't know. He, uh, he seems to have his moments for sure where he's better and when, like, sometimes you'll see him talking and you're, oh, he seems okay right now, but then sometimes.

1:00:56But I, I mean, I kind of joke about it. He's the only 81 year old who we treat poorly like this. Like if he was, I'm not like a civilian, like we would, remember when he fell off his bike and everybody was like, that fucking idiot fell off his bike. You're like, he's an old man. You pick him up and be like, Yeah, you're like, are you okay? Yeah, are you okay? Like, can we get you in now? Which is like, I fell off his bike. I guess when you're the most powerful person in the world, there's a, that's so right. There's a higher standard. That's so right. Like everyone's really mean to old people.

1:01:26He's like a sweet old man. That being said, I think. That's sweet, maybe not sweet. Yeah. I think someone highlighted that if Trump gets in office next year, he will be older than when Biden got in office. I believe so, yeah. Yeah. Trump looks older. Does he? Yeah. I haven't seen him recently. I'm showing the old age on the face. Uh, he, yeah, he looks, I mean, again, I don't know what the kind of curve is with the aging curve when I've seen some people say it's almost closer to a step function. Yeah, like you just like, the age kind of like it kind of really hits you. Yeah, I really hit you because he does seem more than four years older than he was four years ago.

1:02:05The, uh, well, does that photo, that famous photo of Obama, right? Like before and after presidency? It's every president. It actually ages you. I mean, when you have to press a button and kill a village, it has to take a toll on you. Do you know how they do the, um, like fucking, uh, nuclear football? Do you know how that thing works? Now I find out from this guy, it's so fucking fascinating. So there's 130 missile silos, IBCM, nuclear missile silos all around the states, right? At each one of those, at all times, there are two offices, and both of the offices have keys around their neck. Now, what you would think would happen is there's a nuclear football that goes with the president and it's got a special piece of paper that they snap in like a wax seal.

1:02:54They snap that, they pull it apart, there's a piece of paper inside that's got a code. They enter the code that then triggers the silo, the people, get the code, enter the code, turn the keys at the same time. The reason you have two people is so that one is accountable to the other, and so the one person can't do it on their own, but also that you don't get, I think it's called like a willing dissenters or something. So the one person, it's like there's pressure. Right, it's like, no, dude, this is your job. Like we've got to do the thing. But obviously one of the problems that you have with doing it that way is if you're fucking, if you're the guy that the silo comes off, both of you can be nervous about doing it.

1:03:25So I'm about to fucking turn the key and kill like thousands of people or something. So every 45 minutes or so, every single silo around the entire US has one of these things happen. All of them. And then the guys get their keys, put them in, turn them into the code, press the fucking button, and then they go back. So they, yeah, every less than, it's like around about every single hour and I think they're on eight hour shifts and there's like whatever the bunch of people So 24 hours a day, 365, this is happening. And they always go off. It goes off all the time and they don't know if it's real or if it's another one of the drills.

1:04:02Yeah, it's just a drill. And they just have to and the reason that they do that is when it does happen, if it does happen, when it's real, it's just you've been programmed. It's like this is part and part. Yeah, it's just like that. But you'll have some stories from Russia. It's the opposite there. So it's the most junior members of staff that do that, some of the most junior intelligence officers that have the keys, because it's kind of a bit of a drugie job. It's like put the key and turn it, press the button, blow whatever. But in Russia, it's the opposite. It's the most senior members of staff.

1:04:27But you'll remember, there's like three times that we've come basically super close to nuclear war. And oh, it turned out to be like, pieces of foil that were in the sky, and all like the glints of birds or something or some misreading on the... There was a submarine one and it's where they lost contact and they basically had some sort of order. Like I can't remember the exact story. I think I heard it on coast to coast or something, but it's like a famous like a US summary and they lost full contact and Essentially like the protocol was that they believed that they were under attack and they had to do it and then some guy Willing Decentre.

1:05:02He over wrote he goes no, we're not doing it and then he was right and so had he not been they would have just Accidently launched yes crazy. So that that happened like I think at least two or three times in Russia But this in the US this is the final like fucking kicker that I learned from this dude and he said that um Not only is it all of them happening almost all the time 24 hours a day 365 and they don't know if it's real or if it's fake But all of them are part of one network So all it takes is for one pair of people to enter the code Are they all fire and they'll fire whichever one needs because they're all pointing at different places.

1:05:38Yeah Like I can be in fucking Iowa and the Wisconsin and fucking thing goes off, even if so you need like one pair of people out of 130 pairs of people who also have the accountability of each other and also don't know if it's real or if it's fake. And then I guess just one day, if it ever happens, one day you're just going to fucking like put the code in and then here. Oh, I'd be like. That's insane. You're holy shit. So fucking wild. That's why I had no idea. I always thought it was just the president because. because enters the thing and goes, press it, press it, press it. I see there's some people.

1:06:15You just open a briefcase, there's a button, you go whack. Wack and, no. Fucking cool. Probably better though, that way. What have you reflected on about this sort of Matt Rife fall out? Have you thought about this much? I thought, you know, honestly, I feel like, I know a guy who opens for him and, you know, he has a unique situation because his audience, when he got famous super fast, his audience is all women, right? It's like 90 it's the opposite of our audience like literally it's like all women and I think when this stuff like it was a basic joke it wasn't anything that crazy But I think he Matt Rife probably won't wants to be like I just want to be a comedian for everyone so I I think he kind of leaned into this controversy because it allowed him to kind of just You may have offered the audience.

1:07:05Yeah, I'm gonna get rid of the 10 % of the most annoying audience that just kind of, you know, it's maybe a little fair weather. And, you know, I don't wanna cave to the demands. I just wanna do what I want. And he might have been able to replace those 10 % with a new 10 % of guys. So net net, it probably is a better move. So that's kind of how I read it. He's just like, look, I'm a comic. I'm not trying to cater to a specific audience. Do you think that that, playing it that way, actually then posted the Instagram story of the special needs help. Yeah, yeah, he just trying to be like, that's just comic stuff.

1:07:38Do you think that that's given him, or will give him more legitimacy in the comedy world? Not that he doesn't already have it, but. Yeah, I mean, I don't think he needs like a legitimately person, like, you know, he sells 5 ,000 tickets a night. That's legitimate. Yeah, that's legitimate enough. I think he just wants maybe to not be pigeonholed. And nobody really does. I think as a comedian, so I think he just wants to say, hey, you know, I'm not like some just handsome dude who's not doing jokes You know, I can be funny just like another comedian would which I think was probably a smart move for him I think until and then you get also just all the people complaining about you and it just raises your profile because you know He was on TMZ everybody's like oh this guy so I'm sure lots of people didn't even know who he was Yeah, yeah, well, I think Rogan said his show has never had as many plays as when CNN was featuring him exactly Yeah, so it strives on the fact if you use it right, it can be pretty powerful.

1:08:33And you know, it's saying, but there is really no, no negative publicity, you know, like as long as you're not doing something criminalized. Yeah, yeah, I told you about this last night, but Sam Harris talks about digital leprosy. Yeah, yeah, but this is almost like a purposeful leprosy or like a lech -ded leprosy. So Sam's point being that he gets into different furors and debates or whatever on Twitter, but now it doesn't have Twitter. So bits of his audience might be mad at him and be leaving, but because he's not there, he doesn't notice it. Like the leopard, like the fingers fall off and the fuck falls off and they're like, I didn't feel it.

1:09:10But I wonder whether Matt, in some regards, almost was like, oh, this is my opportunity to coals and barnacles off the bottom of the ship. Absolutely. I don't want. Yeah. So if I lean into this even more, I'll get rid of like a little bit of more bondicals too. And I mean, what's he supposed to do? Apologize for a joke? Like, there's that is like the number one rule of comedy. You're not apologize for your jokes. I asked to shout this last year. Do you think that there is this such a thing as a joke that shouldn't be told? I mean, if it constantly bombs, that's the only thing. Is it funny? Is it funny and is it not funny?

1:09:46I, you know, obviously that's like the starting point. Is it funny or is it not funny? If you tell a joke and it constantly bombs and you go, yeah, don't tell that joke, then you can get into more like a craft kind of stuff where you say, hey, is this a good joke? Because there's bad jokes that do well. That make people laugh. That make people laugh and there may be cheap jokes or whatever. Then you can start getting into that. But every comic has, they have to make those decisions for themselves. That's exactly what Schultz said. Yeah. Literally, he was like, I said, is there a joke that shouldn't be told?

1:10:19and he said, is it funny? And I was like, yes, he said, tell it. Yeah, if it's a funny joke, you're allowed to tell it. Yeah, exactly, you're allowed to tell it. And then if you want to say, like, you know, sometimes every comic sometimes will come up with a joke and then you tell it and it kills and you go, feels kind of cheap, you know, for whatever reason. What's like a, but it might be, it might be it because it's just like, it's kind of hacky. What's like an example of something like, just like what were you talking about with the, you know, you're just comics are talking about their lives and then, you know, you're talking about your life.

1:10:49Like it was the airplane stuff going through the airport sometimes or whatever and you're something like It's like that's funny joke, but you know, maybe it's not the best take on it Follying off a bike joke as kind of or I mean I'll tell you what Because comedy has shifted because of The speed at which it used to be like a lot of comedians would put out any special number like four years kind of thing and Now it's a little quicker because in order to tour and just the amount of amount of comedians but a lot of comics will comment on the same stuff. Like, you know, Jeffrey Dahmer show came out and then there's 10 comedians.

1:11:26You know, you might be the first, but then eventually... Everyone's doing Jeffrey Dahmer bits. Everybody's doing Jeffrey Dahmer bits and then you gotta be like, okay, do I have the best Jeffrey Dahmer bit? Or am I at least, there's like, it's almost like an arms race to get it out there, to be like, I least I'm the first one to get it out there. Because you definitely don't wanna be the guy with the special, you know, the 10th Jeffrey Dahmer bit. that everybody's watching the same stuff right now. Like, and all these things are the biggest cultural things, you know, so if you want to comment on the thing that everybody is seeing, I mean, the classic thing would be Trump with Flate Night, you know, it just, it became so trite and it ruined these comedians.

1:12:06It literally like ruined their brains. You know, there were constantly just, all they could talk about was Trump and it was, and it was dishonest how they were talking about it and people kind of, you know, at first people were like, yeah, and then even people on the left were like, okay, this is just hack. Yeah, did, while we were talking last night about this sort of fallout from late night show host trying to come and do less scripted, more just banter stuff. And you kind of get to see like who's swimming naked there. They're all swimming. I mean, it was for that strike force five thing that they did the five late night host during the strike.

1:12:44And I watched it, it was terrible. Well, it was literally a Zoom call between five guys that nothing prepared. They just, you know, they're very classic. Like they told, you know, Steven Colbert was telling some story about some famous dictators, pants that he had. And like some, I can't remember what some dictator like dated his mom or something in like the 60s. I can never be a leader of some bullshit. Yeah, and he's like, I have his pants. And then they tell some story about like buying, I saw Sammy Davis Jr. Jimmy Kimmel's like, yeah, I saw Sammy Davis Jr. like a store. Okay, yeah. It's just like, it's just so banal and mundane.

1:13:22And you know, you can tell they like, yeah, the crazy thing is these guys have all 20 writers. And the 20 writers still are not cranking out much stuff. What do you think's the future? What's the, what's the future of comedy from what you're seeing? Like the trends you've seen is that specials are having to be paced up more quickly. Yeah, for sure. Louis was kind of the first guy who pressed the accelerator, but now, you know, yeah, you have to, especially if you're talking about certain things, it just gets stale. So you either put it out or you just can do it and then stop doing it, which is not.

1:13:55Is there a delicate balance between showing enough of what you're working on that are good jokes on Instagram or TikTok or whatever to be able to sell tickets for your shows versus not releasing your entire special in 45 second chunks. Yeah. The fans of the special. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? Sometimes this is kind of a newer thing where a lot of comics will, you know, when they go on the road, they'll have a little time to vote. So just kind of stuff that's in the news. And they're not the most polished jokes, but because they're referencing something so current, they actually will hit well.

1:14:29And then you can release those because those don't actually really make the act. Right. Yeah. Those will like mark no one at San Mariel does a good job of that Ryan does a good job of that. But yeah, they'll just kind of like just, it's almost like how we comment on something on a podcast, you know? This shit happened pretty smooth. You see that? Exactly. And you know, you're not really, it's not good enough where you're like, this isn't gonna make me ask. Pretty smooth isn't gonna be a part of the special. Yeah, it's not gonna be a part of the special, but we can talk about this today and this one weekend at this show and then I'll clip this, I'll film this and put it out.

1:14:56Sorry, good. And so you kind of, what else is happening in the world of like comedy? I mean, it's like, it's really funny. I mean, we were talking about how a lot of comedians are now like, like, like, actor, like the actual celebrities are now becoming podcasters essentially because that whole world is fragmenting. I don't, you know, we're not really in it, to be honest, but that whole world of comedy is getting very fragmented. Like, you know, the people who are fans of us, I can't imagine they, you know, they don't watch late night, they don't really, I don't even know what comedies are on.

1:15:32Like I don't know what a comedy show is on right now. Big bang. No, it's been off, so it's still so funny. We talked about that. That's been canceled for like seven years or something. That's it. But if you walk around New York right now. You'd feel like it. No, no, no. They have, they're like the buses and taxis have all ads for it. Because that's what's going on in comedy where they're promoting a show that's been canceled for seven years like it's a show that's on because there's no good shows that are on. I know there's always Sunny and Philadelphia's on, which is, like all the good shows comedy -wise are the shows that have been on for 15 years, like South Park, it's always Sunny and Philadelphia, but in terms of new comedies, it's, there's, and I get it, there's, you know, you don't wanna take these risks, there's a disincentive to comedic risk -taking because of, you know, the climate, I guess.

1:16:26So, and they don't, and, you know, the comedies that come out are just the most vanilla, like kind of mundane shit. And no other distance. Because South Park's illustrated, I wonder whether the distance that the people who make it have from the actors that make the actual front and center on the TV show, I wonder if that's giving them a little bit more along Jevets. I just think that they're such a money maker and comedy central, like for example, comedy central doesn't make anything anymore. They just don't. Like I couldn't tell you what they make. They just air reruns of their properties that they have, you know, maybe key and peel.

1:17:07It used to be county central. If you got a special county central, that was cool. It's not anymore. Like nobody will say that being like, oh, sick, I got a half hour on it. I don't even think they do half hours. They'll do maybe like these 10 minutes. But county central is a YouTube channel. I've said this many times, but because I, you know, I do live streaming for my college show that I do on Tuesday nights. It's called Low Value Mail. if you want to check it out, MAIL, but they have 11 .6 million subscribers on their YouTube channel, Comedy Central, and they'll do these live streams of stand -up.

1:17:37It's like 200, 300 people watching. They've absolutely killed their brand, killed it. It's destroyed. I don't even think it could be resurrected at this point. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, think about it, like, you know, daily wire has to make comedy stuff right now. And I saw a thing with Jeremy, where he's saying, like, you know, Joe Rogan essentially was like, you guys have to make this. And then he's like, yeah, you know, we do kind of have to make this because nobody else will. And there's just nobody, everybody just wants to play it safe, especially with comedy. There hasn't been, I mean, I've been beating this, because this because it's just so crazy to me.

1:18:17There has not been a popular comedy movie, like a big box office hit in now 10 years. What was the last one? Ted too. Like if you look at the top 50 comedy movies of all time by box office, the only one, like the most recent one of those was Ted too. Wow, 10 years ago. Like there's just, you know, there are any, it obviously overlaps perfectly with what's going on culturally. Do you want to speak to your family guy is still going? You didn't realize that it's still going. Where do you watch it? I've seen clips of it or whatever. It's on Fox. It's on Fox. Yeah, it's on Sue. But that seems to have really, I don't know, I remember in 10, 15 years ago, family guy was like, fucking crazy, hot.

1:19:04Yeah, this is going to be, this made South Park almost look slow in some ways. Yeah, yeah. Like more cool and more cutting in the characters is a bit more lovable and now I don't know. Yeah, I haven't, you know what, I can't even comment on it. I have not seen a family guy in a long time. I'm sure it has its moments, but again, it's just one of those things where it's probably just, it's a big money maker. They're not gonna really be able to replace it with something that is comparable. Yeah, Jimmy Carl told me about this idea of a trajectory being more important than position. So if you are 100th in the world at a thing, but last year you were 200th in the world.

1:19:43There is more allure and excitement around you than if you're number three in the world, but last year you were number two. So basically your sort of trajectory is more important than your absolute position. And you're right with what you say about it. Well, it's because it's more upside. It's yeah, like there's more upside. And there's more potential and there's more unknowns around it, right? Like once you're two, you know, well, you can only be one and that's it. And we're done thinking about where this could go. There's no danger leaving about what could happen here. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, how high could they rise maybe even higher than the highest person right?

1:20:14Right, right, right, but yeah, that sort of slow decline, but yeah, man I it's one of those things I can totally see it why people would sacrifice Credibility or cool or whatever and it's not like they always purposefully do this sometimes people just like make calls that tweet things or say things or do whatever that's like oh I thought that was kind of cool or interesting or whatever right the time and it didn't be it's not everything is rational, purposeful decision, but a good chunk of it is just not keeping your eye on the ball, and you're right, comedy central to go from where they were to where they are now.

1:20:48And it was just all the kind of, you know, not to sound like some crazy boomer or whatever, but it really was the diversity stuff because they were, you know, when I think everything got, like it was almost like a hockey stick when Trump showed up, like in terms of this massive of overreaction course correction kind of thing. But they wrongly were over -abphasizing white guys. Like when people say they were, they put too many of them. And but the problem is is how do you, you can't just like exactly represent everybody. That's like communism essentially. Like why, we're gonna have a exact representation of every person.

1:21:31It's 12 .5%. You know what I mean? It's literally impossible. So they were over, did it one way and now they, and then they went in, they over did it the other way, but with comedy, the problem was, is that sometimes like you can't just, I know that you wanna keep your jobs, right? And the only way to do so at the time was to say, hey, we need to not really make this super diverse, but like there just wasn't the people available to do that. Like you can't, like you can't just say, hey, this person checks these three boxes, you're like, but that person's been doing stand up for three months. They're just not good.

1:22:01It's not, nothing against them. and like I don't blame those people for taking that thing, but you're like, that's just not how art should be. It's a ruthless position, almost to put the elected person into as well, because what's gonna happen? They're gonna say no. They're gonna put, like, they're not gonna say no, but if they say yes, then they're kind of, by all of the people in the industry that actually care, they feel like they've gotten unfair leg up. And then they're like, okay, so I say no to this, and I maybe never get this opportunity again. So you never say no, like comedians are never rarely turning down any opportunities like that.

1:22:39So yeah, usually take the opportunity. And then if you go look at the comments, like comedy, go look at Comedy Central standups, Instagram page, right? They've kind of, I think they've kind of seen the error of their ways, but in classically, they're way too late. But it's all these people who follow them for Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle, and then they just started putting all these just kind of essentially amateur comedians on for the purpose of diversity, which is truly self -serving because it was for the purpose of these people keeping their jobs, right? Because they essentially, it was like the tide came out and they were like, man, you know, the tides out and we're, we fucked up, we put too many white people on or whatever.

1:23:18And then now we have to overreact and then all the comments are like, what is this shit? Like people are like, this is, where's the, you know, you got that like, where's the joke? And I feel bad for the diverse people who are actually good because then when they get put up, people will think it's for the purpose of diversity. Diversity on it. Right? And you're like, so it's an unwinnable position because if they wanted to say, hey, we're going to put the best people on, then there was a chance that it might not be representative enough, quote, unquote. Because the thing is, there was, you know, when I started comedy, which was 15 years ago, a lot of women would and fairly or at least say like, you know, they would be the tokenized person on a show, right?

1:23:59They would say like, we already have one woman on the show, kind of like you'd hear that, like a show with eight people. But also they were about that ratio of comedians. Like it wasn't ever 50, 50. Like comedy's a guy thing or at least was. And then, you know, when this stuff started happening, they were like, okay, we need 50, 50. And you're like, that is not how comedy shakes out. in the barrel of women. That's not how comedy shakes out. Like it's not 50 -50. Like it's not, if you took a master list of all comedians, that half women, it's probably now a quarter. Well, to take one interesting thing that I realized was I come from a nightlife background, the number of female DJs.

1:24:40Right? So you can be a good DJ. You can be an all right producer and a very, very good DJ. So people go to see people that play good club sets that don't necessarily produce and make music that's absolutely banged and gone into the charts. But when you're doing DJing, there is other than the selection of the things, it's not like, you don't know who's doing it. If I listen to a podcast with a guy or a podcast with a woman, like, I know, I hear what's coming out of them. And also they have different talking points too. But with DJing, it's like if I press a fucking TS .Track or if a chick presses a TS .Track, it is the exact same thing happens Yeah, right?

1:25:15So from a performance standpoint, it's completely egalitarian But from a lifestyle standpoint, do you want to just pack and unpack and live in hotels and be on the road and be up until four in the morning for 150 days of the year. Like is that a lifestyle that you actually want? Yeah, but if you want to try and get 50 -50 representation, you're gonna have to like like dig into population rather than like industry, yeah, demographics. Yeah, for sure. And you have to find people who are, you know, maybe I don't know if in the world of DJing, not as qualified or whatever, but, I mean, again, this is communism.

1:25:50Like when all this stuff, when we were in Canada, we were making stuff and then the tide started to turn on this stuff and like Ryan would have like a show at CBC. And CBC would say like, it's literally send him a spreadsheet where you say you have to have all these things. And it was funny because Ryan was the writer, director, or producer. So that's all white guys. And so Ryan's essentially like, I have to like, fire myself. Right? Which is weird, because he's like, I don't need a director. I want to director myself. I want to do all this stuff myself. But then CBC's like, well, you're literally three white guys in this scenario.

1:26:29But then I would show my mom. I was like, he's one third of a white guy. I want to be pretty tricky. Well, no, that's the problem. These two jobs away from people of color. Literally. That's how they see it. And then I told my mom this, and my mom was like, yeah, that's like, what Russia was like. That's like what living in communist Russia was like, like, you, and I get it. Look, there's always going to be someone getting the short end of the stick. There's no, and that's why I, you know, don't get to, you know, when I'm, get told, like, hey, we're not seeing, you know, when I was doing acting in Canada, they'd be like, if you weren't a white guy, maybe we could help you out, but just that's how it's going.

1:27:06And I never really got to work it up over it because there's always been someone who was told that. Yes. It's always, someone's always gonna get the, the short end of the stick. So you just gotta take it, you know, like I don't know. I don't really know. I'm not gonna be like making it my identity and complaining about it. I just go, okay, fine off. I'll figure out a way and I have, you know. So I'm thankfully there's a YouTube and the internet and all that stuff where everybody can kind of carve out their own thing. Oh yeah, Dunning is bringing this one home. Why should people go? They want to keep up today.

1:27:34You can find me on Twitter, Danny Jokes, unfortunately on Instagram, Danny Jokes 2 .0. I'm hopefully will get my old Instagram regular Danny Jokes back. But if you want to find me on Instagram, Danny Jokes 2 .0. Boys casts, as you see right here, my life partner, yeah, my pleasure, my, Ryan Long who is on the road right now, but we do new episodes every Friday on YouTube, youtube .com, such as the Boys Cast. And I do a call and show that I had a reference that had you on grill on I had marked ice on recently and it's I just love Kind of like talk radio. I've always been like a talk radio fan. I don't know why but every Tuesday night at 9 p .m Called low -value mail ma.

1:28:15I L and that's the name of the YouTube channel and you can check it out It's a fun time. It's the only podcast where you can watch and call in and be on as you're watching Even though it's just a radio show What a tiny tube that yeah, I appreciate anybody. Reaching YouTube. Yeah. Yeah.