#752 - 1.75M Q&A - Growing Pains, Social Anxiety & Dating Problems

27:21We need to rent the kit. We need to rent the space. We need to build a team. And we have... It's expensive. The only way that I can do these big shoots are by selling ad spots. I care and believe in the advertisers that I use. And if you don't like them, it's quite easy to skip forward. This is one of the things where I'm like, hey, go folly fuck yourself. Because it takes so much effort behind the scenes to do it, to get this stuff to happen. So many like weeks and weeks of preparation and then we all fly, we sit on fucking planes, Dean sits on a plane for like 18 hours to get over to Vegas or LA or whatever and then we spend a full day prepping and then we go in and we record and I've done all of my research and we sit down with the guests and then there's this huge edit on the back and all of this stuff to create content that you get to watch for fucking free.

28:14And then the internet has a problem with three minutes of podcasts on it. Like the entitlement that people have, do you know how much it costs to run a podcast? It's insane. So what is up with all of the ads? DeGonna stay. I want to continue making the most beautiful podcasts on the planet. that costs money. I can't bankroll it myself. I have to use advertisers. The only ones that I use are ones that I work with. We turn down a huge deal, a life -changing amount of money deal. We just turned it down a couple of weeks ago from a very well -known advertiser because I don't agree with them and because I don't think that they're a valid product.

29:01The amount of sacrifices that we make behind the scenes and the amount of revenue we leave on the table because if not wanting to play this limbic hijack game, because if not wanting to like use the, they are coming for your kids, you won't believe what they're doing next, that on the titling and the thumbnailing, all of that stuff. So the ads are staying, and if you don't like it, go fuck yourself. Mike Okona, if you only have 10 exercises for the rest of time, it's all you have in your library to stay as muscular as possible. What are they? It's time you weigh in, homie. Okay, Mike, so I've asked this question of, 10 guests maybe, including Chris Bumsterd, greatest Olympia Physique Champion of all time, and Phil Heath, one of the greatest Olympia champions of all time.

29:45If only a 10 exercises, okay, so, incline chess press because it's the best chess exercise on the planet. Pull ups because overhand pull ups. Shoulder press with laterals because I think that shoulders get, no, we don't need shoulder press, just lateral raises. incline press, pull ups, lateral raises, leg press because I have a bad back.

30:13Fuck, this is hard. I've done this to so many people and I've been looking at them like, why are you taking all of this time?

30:22Standing supinated bicep curls, overhead tricep extension, quad extension hamstring What do I miss? I'm missing back. I'm missing... Single arm row. What am I missing? What am I missing? Another chest exercise? Another chest exercise? Cable flies. I think this probably explains why I have the physique that I do. That's the best that I can do. Christian von Uffe. What's an example of a counter -intuitive life lesson that's improved your life?

31:04the more that you pay attention, the better things get. But the more that you're able to let go, the more enjoyable they are. I guess that's more like a contradictory life lesson than counter -intuitive one, but that's what you're getting. That paying attention has been the single greatest competitive advantage that I've had, because I pay attention to things, and I try to be precise, and I care.

31:30I But also, the more that you're able to let go and not fear about stuff, the more enjoyable you'll find it. So the thing that is making you better is the thing which is making you feel pain. And this is a perennial balance. Dylan Taylor, if your 80 year old self look back at your life now, what will he say you're doing too much of and too little of? Too much time on screens, too much time on email and admin and busy work and too little time just having fun and walking in nature and chilling out with my friends and shooting bows or playing pickleball or traveling. I work an awful lot because I obsess and I like doing the show and it's fun to me, but it's very hard because it's so rewarding.

32:18It's very hard to work out. Is this the absolute best thing that I could be doing at all times? Am I doing it too much? Could I be doing it a little bit less and still get most of the gains from it? I don't know, but I think 80 -year -old self looking back at me now. I'm not doing bad. I'm really, really not doing bad. I've got the top five deathbed regrets of the dying, written on whiteboard next to the desk where I work, and I look at that pretty regularly, so I'm trying my best to front -load that. ASG, what's the biggest podcasting lesson you've learned since your first episode? Podcasting lesson, lesson about podcasting or lesson from podcasts?

32:53Let's say, less than about podcasting. Silence. Silence is the best podcasters have things to say and the absolute elite to podcasters no one to shut up. If you're able to sit with silence and just allow that to breathe a little bit, even comedians do this. Comedians do it in a different way. They're not doing it to think or to think comedians don't think. They're doing it for comedic timing as opposed to because they're grappling with some like super complex idea, but just allowing the room to breathe. Theo Von did this with Sean Strickland, right? Sean's crying, he's struggling with this sort of traumatic memory thing.

33:33And Theo just let this silence sit. Lex asks Elon Musk, when are we going to get to Mars? It's a 30 something second break. Also, awesome, really cool. So best podcasting lesson is shut up, actually. More ten -carsic. Are you cognizant of the risks of becoming a meme of yourself? Yes, I am. Heavily, heavily aware of the risk of becoming a meme of myself. And I try very hard to not lean into the same sorts of conversations all the time. It's one of the advantages of having such a broad selection of guests to choose from, that it's not always bro philosophy with Alex Homosi or Jim Ratstuff with Mike Israel or social psychology insights with Rob Henderson or evolutionary psychology with William Costello, you know, we've always got this broad range of things, but ultimately you are you and unless you continue to change you you will have patterns and say things in certain ways the way I say yours which Michael Malice told the entire internet about.

34:41Yours and yours. That's kind of a funny thing. So the fact that I've got this particularly prominent brow, that's not going anywhere. Like this sort of cling on shelf thing that I have here, that this light really strikes perfectly. Let me see if I can see that. Yep. Someone actually said that in Mike Israel on the episode, looked like two different alien head races meeting each other. Like two different species of aliens with different shaped heads meeting each other. Like I was predator and he was alien. Really quite accurate and funny, which is why I couldn't get mad. But yeah, I'm cognizant of becoming a meme of myself and I really, really, really don't want it to happen because I want to keep doing this thing and because I don't like the idea of a joke being made at my expense, that when I'm trying my best, because that sucks.

35:44So hopefully it doesn't happen. Greg, what is your goal, Sasha? Mission with this podcast. I just want to keep talking to people that I'm interested in, bro. I just want to bring on people that I'm interested in and just find out what they've got to teach me. I want to understand myself and the world around me. And that's been the goal for six years now, and that will continue to be the goal. And I'm not going to change that. I have no obligation at all to anybody except for my own instincts. And that's it. My own curiosity. And as long as I follow that, I think that that's the way to go. So goal emission is keep on learning about myself in the world around me.

36:21People can come along for the right. Kalim Malkin Alex says you don't become confident by shouting affirmations in the mirror, but by having a stack of undeniable proof that you are who you say you are. How did you get the evidence for yourself and do you think that the evidence is unlimited and you will never have enough? How did I get the evidence? So I got the evidence quite largely through doing the show because for a long time I'd done pursuits where I could always excuse any successful outcome as it being due to something else that wasn't me. So my imposter syndrome was so great that even if we had a good event at one of the club night.

36:56Oh, that would be because, you know, everywhere else in town wasn't busy or, you know, we really fluked it. Oh, that's because of one of the boys. Oh, that's because the market conditions. So that's because of the way that we priced it, not because of me, wasn't because of my input. And then I started to do the podcast, which was much more of a one to one input to outcome ratio, the same as being a powerlifter, right? Like, you work hard and the numbers go up. And if the numbers go up and you pick up the bar, you know, it's exclusively because of you and what you did. That's very difficult to hide.

37:26Lots of other pursuits, especially things that are a part of the team or stuff where there just isn't as tight of a feedback loop between what you put in and what you get out. That is very, very easy to kid yourself into thinking that you aren't doing as well or that your successes aren't yours to own. That'd be the best way to say it. Do you think that the evidence is unlimited and you will never have enough? I think that you You can always have more evidence, but I've managed to get myself to the stage where I'm confident in my abilities. And that I would have just, I just didn't have confidence in myself.

38:03I had, I was able to pretend like I had confidence. I had the simulacrum of confidence. Now if you put me on stage in front of 500 people and say that I need to speak for an hour, I'll do it. I'll be a little bit nervous before, but as soon as I get moving, I'll do it. That was something I couldn't even do six months ago. So I'm like, wow, like a concentrated, so the solution to that is to, 17 shows in 28 days across three continents. That's a solution. It's crushing amounts of volume, crushing amounts of evidence. And after a while, it's essentially impossible for that lack of confidence to stick about.

38:38So I promise you, if you just keep going, keep on building that mountain in layers of paint, it'll be fine. Martin, how do you deal with having to spend a seemingly inordinate amount of time in front of a screen? For me, it can lead to isolation and a skewed perception on reality. Do you ever think you're missing out on other things by choosing the path you have? Absolutely, man. I think all of us are spending too much time on screens. I don't know anybody. Even my mum, even my mum and dad don't have a good relationship with screens. So with difficulty, I suppose. I'm a few things that I've done practically.

39:11Again, because I can just give you all of these fluffy platitudes and a trite little quotes and stuff, but really practically what can you do. I live near a park. Living near a park is a good idea, I think, because you're right next to nature, and the friction between you being in front of a screen and you being in the middle of nature is really small. So if you can live near a park, that seems to work for me. It can lead to isolation and a skewed perception of reality. 100 % it can. I think that that's what a lot of the communities of people that have bound together over mutual hatreds of out groups are doing, because that That is reality to them.

39:50Reality is what they see on the internet. It's not what's happening out there. It's what's happening in the group chat or in the comment thread or whatever. Do I ever think I'm missing out on other things by choosing the path you have? Yes, but by choosing other things, I would be missing out on this thing. So it's a case of picking what things you prepared to miss out on. Right now, I want to do the podcast. I want to learn from people. I want to talk to them. I want to find out stuff and have cool conversations. That means that I'm not going to get to travel and go on holidays as much as I want.

40:21I'll learn about other cultures. That means that I don't get to spend as much time with my friends as I'd like. That means that I don't get to go out partying if I wanted to do that because I need to stick to a routine and a schedule so that my brain doesn't fall apart. Anything that you do will come with an opportunity cost of the things that you're not doing. pick the things that you are prepared to not do. And then if they align with the thing that you want to do, your path is now clear. Chris Peterson, did love Island help you with your confidence on camera or did you have to get more comfortable as you did more podcasts?

40:55Hard to believe you've never seen nervous when talking to very imposing figures on topics. You want an expert in. Well, apparently that's the whole problem. Uh, yes, I wasn't aided really at all by law. love Island. Love Island is so interesting. If you ever go through multiple versions of you in life and then people in the future find out about things that you did in the past, each time it's a revelation. But to you, it's like, dude, I'd even forgotten that I'd done that. Love Island was now eight years ago, I think for me. Maybe more. And then it gets resurfaced. Did you know that Chris was on Love Island or oh my god, you know this guy was on Love Island.

41:32Yeah, I, of course I did. Of course I, because I was there, did I get more comfortable as I did, more podcasts. Yes, absolutely. Like doing podcasting and especially doing YouTube, doing this, staring into that thing and anyone that ever tried to do a video, birthday video for a friend where you're just looking at this black lens and you have no idea what to say and it's just like a hole staring at you and there's no one coming to save you. No one's going to come and help you. No one's going to say the words for you and if you mess up over and over again, you're going to feel like you can't speak and you're completely useless and your brain, your brain dead.

42:09This is the best baptism of fire for learning how to communicate that you can have because no one is gonna come and save you. No one's gonna drag you out when you get things wrong or when you get stuck or when you don't have anything to say. This is why I said it on the first episode with Rogen. Sit down for 30 minutes once a week and have a fake podcast with a friend. Put your phone on record, all of the phones out of the room, put it in the middle of the table and just talk to each other about an idea and you will be able to listen back to the way that you communicate and realize, oh my God, I didn't even know that I had that verbal tick and after I promise you, after if you did that for six months, your communication would be so insanely different.

42:50And obviously the extreme version of this is to actually then publish it on the internet and make it into a podcast, but that can be a big deal for people sitting down for half an hour. That's not. I do feel nervous, especially before sitting down with Rogan, I had to train really, really hard. Here's the solution, train hard as hell, and then you can't really feel feelings anymore. And then the nerves are just, you've got doms and you've got nerves and that the nerves die because of the doms take over. So that was my solution there. Captain Reese, will the podcast grow in the same direction as your life?

43:22If we see you having kids, will you do more dad -centric content? 100%. I am very much looking forward to learning about bringing up kids and family life and I could become a prepper in five years' time. And again, this is the whole follow your instincts thing. Who knows, I might get real deep into AI or into 80s jazz or something. And guess what? There's going to be a ton of episodes about 80s jazz and AI. And for the people that that's for, that's great. And if not, No, that's not. But yes, I think there's no way that I'm not going to be changed by something like becoming a dad, getting married, having a family, dealing with the passing of friends and family members and all that stuff.

44:10And the show is an outgrowth of me, you know, for better or for worse. It's me and where I'm at in life. It's not, you know, I don't know what's going on in coffeezilla's life. I don't know if he's got kids. I think he's married, but I don't know what's happening. Like his content is always about that out there, but it's not really about his instinct of what's going on with him related to his content. For me, that's not the same. I keep my private life pretty private, but I'm also following whatever interests I've got. So yes, that centric content, ageing gracefully as a man dealing with the drops in testosterone, dealing with losing family members and people growing older and getting a dog or whatever it is that's going to happen, all of that's in the post.

44:54Lewis Stroud, why are 9 to 5s look down on within the self -improvement space and how to get past it if your purpose is aligned within a 9 to 5 career? I have noticed this. I don't think I've ever personally actually been disparaging of someone that has a 9 to 5 because I have been someone that's had a 9 to 5, albeit not for long. I did it for six months, but every single person that I knew growing up had a 95 or bigger and my dad certainly did. And then coming from a working class, a super working class background, I've always felt a little bit uncomfortable with the way that 95s are disparaged.

45:37I don't think that the only way that you can enjoy your life is if you pivot and do something yourself. I think it's a very reliable route to do it and I encourage as many people to do it as possible, but I try not to look down on people that are doing that because it's the lion's share of most people. How to get past it if your purpose is aligned within a nine to five career? Fuck him. It doesn't matter. Like, I've made huge, huge, huge developments while I was staying up until four in the morning, five in the morning running a nightlife business. You can make huge developments in your personal growth journey while you're doing a nine to five.

46:13And if your purpose is aligned within a nine to five career, it doesn't matter. Like that's your thing. Just lean into it, enjoy that. And all of the guys that don't know when they're supposed to start or when they're supposed to stop, but they've got to be the taskmaster or they don't know what they're supposed to do today and they don't get holidays and they don't get all of that. You don't have to worry about any of that. There are tons of advantages of having a nine to five. And if you're enjoying it and your purpose is aligned with it, nail the self development on an evening time, make sure that you lock into a hard routine and you are going to, you're going to have a great time.

46:41So I'm genuinely, genuinely, genuinely, and I'm just curious of people that have great nine to fives where their purpose is aligned to it, especially if they've got a lot of oversight and structure because it takes all of the pain. I did a video ages ago. You might even be able to find it, kind of remember what it was called, something like 10 reasons to not start your own business or something like that. And it was about precisely this, that it's not all it's cracked up to be, to go and work for yourself. So the disparaging of 95s, I'm not on board with that. Mr. Meldru 693, who do you think would win in a fight?

47:21Eight mildly irritated squirrels or a drowsy beaver? Please provide working. Oh my God. Eight mildly irritated squirrels or a drowsy beaver. That beaver's fucked, dude. Eight, four versus one, that would be, I'd be interested to see that. but even a normal squirrel, let alone mildly irritated, would, I think, would be a handful, the very least. That beaver's wrecked. So squirrels struggle to coordinate, but they just rush the beaver, running around it on all sides, little scratching bite in squeaking things, and that drowsy beaver's, he's wrecked. Unless someone comes in and gives him a lucasade or a new tonic, If he had an eutonic, actually, if we made B -votonic, he would be fine, but unfortunately, not happening.

48:17Jailch, Jailch, 28. How to be free from others' opinions? I don't know. Here's the guy that's worried about the entire internet being critical of the industry that he's in. I don't know. I don't know what that solution is. See, here's the problem with doing therapy, that it keeps on coming up whenever you're trying to have a conversation, whenever you're trying to hide whatever your concerns are. Some of the ways that I've been able to find to do that are that most people don't like themselves, so caring about someone else's opinion of you is kind of pointless. You wouldn't respect someone's insights on strength if they didn't know strength and won't strong.

48:59If these people don't like themselves and don't know you, their opinion of you means absolutely deadly squat. Also, most of the people who have critical opinions of you probably have critical opinions of almost everything and it's not really about you, it's probably about them or it's about the way that they see the world. So, other opinions that are negative, a lot of the time are actually just projections of what they hate about themselves or the way that they see the world at large and it literally isn't about you. So, both of those things, And I really try hard to remind myself that it's probably not about you.

49:37Other people's opinions of you are more about them than they are about you. Techie 8036, explain your back issues. Did visiting Dr. Stuart McGill fix it? What about your stem cell treatment in South America? Please share your back fixing story in the current state of your back health. Cheers. Okay, so quick recap. Back the Chris Williams and back Odyssey. I had a bunch of bulging discs when I started doing CrossFit because it's CrossFit and because I was excited and because I was lifting heavy and I never lifted that heavy before with moderately poor form at a very high intensity. L3, L4 and L5, S1, two bulging discs.

50:16MRIs, not good. Try to work on it, kept on having those sort of spasomy back attacks that anyone who's got a bulging disc or a herniated disc will be familiar with. Went to go and visit Stu McGill. still did a full assessment on me. I flew to Canada and then drove to Gravenhurst on my own for the first time driving on the other side of the road for five years ago now. And yes, he made a huge impact. I did hundreds of hours, maybe thousands of hours of his big three, which you can Google online quite easily. If you have a back problem, I highly recommend doing the big three every single day. First thing in the morning, when you wake up, if you got really bad back, do them twice, once in the morning and then once in the Hundreds of hours.

50:56I've done it on a paddleboard in Lake Norman. I've done it in Dubai. I've done it in my house in Newcastle I've done it in gyms all over the UK. I've done it in Austin and Yes, it's made a big difference. Stem cell treatment in South America that I did last year. I went to bio accelerator and I got 200 that 200 million stem cells over the space of a week including intradiscal and every lumber facet joint. So literally into the disc of my spine. I was asleep That was interesting because it forces you to have a big deal load for around about three months. It's really hard for me to work out how much of this was stem cell and how much of this was de -load because I'd never taken a three -month deal load of anything and I looked skinny and fat and slow and awful, but my back didn't hurt and my knees didn't hurt.

51:41My knees had been hurting before as well. I highly recommend a combination of heavy deal load and just stupid me, Gills Big 3. Every current state of my back is I haven't had a back spasm attack in nearly two years now, which is very good. That's muy bueno to me because it was pretty consistent, you know, every couple of months, to every six months or so. That being said, I'm working around it. I don't deadlift. I don't squat. I don't do anything that involves. I don't do good mornings. I don't do bent over rows. I don't do anything that causes that shearing. what's referred to as a shearing force going through my spine bending over.

52:20So I work around it. I do a lot of lunges, heavy suitcase carry lunges. I do a lot of box step ups. I do a lot of leg press. You know, I've worked around this. I've adapted my training so that my back isn't injured. But if you are someone that has a back problem, buy back mechanic, the book by Dr. Stumigil. It's very accessible, very practical. Do the big three once or twice a day. take a deal out from what ever you're doing and learn to do proper back hygiene as it's called spinal hygiene Which involves keeping a very neutral good spine. I always get James always makes jokes about me that I'd stand up really straight like this that I've got such a good posture But I don't think I did have a good posture until about five years ago And then I just hurt my back so much that I became hypersensitive and hyper aware of my posture And now I do stand up straight.

53:07It's a shame that I didn't do that ten years ago. Anyway Parker's 696. What have you done in your life that you are the most proud of? Conversely, what have you done here the most ashamed or disappointed? Jesus. What have I done that in the most proud of? Moving to America, I think, I'm very proud of that. It was super hard to do.

53:29Administratively, it's a nightmare. It takes ages. We submitted this three -inch thick 700 -page portfolio and then the first day that I arrived in Austin, I was waiting to get picked up by the u -brow outside of this block of flats that I lived in. And I was just so thankful, looked up at the sky and it was something that I'd made, right? I'd moved my life from this place where I was, where I was, things were good but not great to a place that I was excited about and I felt like I was exploring and adventuring and being a pioneer and it was all because of me. No one else had done it. No one else had made it happen.

54:04No one else had, it was all me. And that made me feel very proud. What have I done that I'm the most ashamed or disappointed about? I was a bit of a dick to girlfriends when I was younger. Like I wasn't super faithful and I lied and did stuff like that. And I really hated that version of myself. I was an outgrowth of the club promotion industry, but it was on me that I wasn't the boyfriend that I should have been. and I don't like hurting anybody, especially not people that have done nothing wrong. And that's a person that I don't want to be. So that's something, I don't know whether it's the thing that I'm the most ashamed or disappointed about myself for, but it's certainly something that I, I keep in the back of my mind like, don't treat people that haven't done anything wrong badly.

54:51And I'm doing really well. That was a big change. That's probably one of the biggest changes that I've I don't talk about much. A Lysha Melonic. For me personally, I'd love to know more about you being a successful person, integrate joy with your purpose and drive. Life is all about finding the right balance for the season you're in, but I've been getting really excited about trying new things and wanting to balance that with what I'm driving at. What brings you joy and do you have a metric for when you need to rethink or engage with that area in order to fuel your drive? This is something that I've been playing about a good bit, which is trying to have more fun.

55:24Like literally the question that I have for this year is, is it possible to be world class whilst having fun? That was the question for me this year. It may be that in order to be world class fun has to go out the window. If that's the case, it'll be, it'll make me sad, but it's whatever, like that's a price that you perhaps need to pay, but I'm really, really trying to do this. So what brings me joy hanging out with my friends, being outdoors, doing new things, visiting new places, going for good food, especially in different, like adventure and novelty for me are very invigorating. It's also a great way to make time slow down.

56:01When people say, I can't believe how quickly this year's gone, what they mean is I don't remember the days that have gone so far in this year. One of the best ways that you can slow this down is to add more memory units and memory units are highly derived from how much novelty there's been. If you drive the same route to work every day for three years, that's basically a thousand journeys that's condensed down into one memory unless there's one day in particular where it was rainy and you skidded or you were involved in a car crash or someone gave you a phone call and told you that you got a raise or whatever, like you'll remember those.

56:34But because it's always the same thing, it just gets condensed down into one, essentially one memory. So trying to vary and add as much novelty as possible is very very good. That's something that I try and do. I try and adventure as much as I can. I try and do new things with new people, meet people, go out for different, different dinners and travel and do all of that stuff. Do I have a metric for when you need to rethink or engage with that area more in order to feel my drive? Yeah. When I can't bear to sit down and do any more work and I'm like, right, I think I need to break. And that's when it works.

57:08Weezy TF2. You've mentioned how you adopted a train like an athlete mindset in pursuit of podcasting any info as to what that regimen entailed. Yeah, so this was something that I came across about four years ago, three and a half years ago in the middle of COVID. I just really, really wanted to become better at doing the show. And that meant that I had to cover all of the different bases. So for me, I'm so you'd have podcasting. I took a bunch of different content creation courses, like a 30 days to a better YouTube channel from video creators, Ali Abdahl's part time YouTube Academy. I learned Thumbnailing and Tidal Design, I learned channel strategy for YouTube.

57:49I got a voice coach. I started prioritizing sleep and hydration and I played about with nutrition to work out what makes me sharper when I'm on an episode. It turns out that it is just basically no carbs or fully fasted. I started playing about with Neutropics, which is what Eutonic kind of was born out of, I suppose, even four years ago. Well, as they do. Started obsessively watching content creators that communicated in a way that I wanted to be like. A lot of that was a land of bottom from the School of Life, bit of Peterson, good bit of Rogan, and just looked at what they did and deconstructed the way that they spoke and the way that they communicated and then tried to fold that into who I am.

58:30So I didn't just become some shadow version of them, but I really loved the way that pauses were used there or that you asked a question with a statement or whatever it might be, folded that in and then worked on it quite diligently. There was a period the show got worse during 2020 and 2021 because it was being so deliberate with everything that I said and really trying to bring in all of this learning that the show's flow actually got worse, but I needed to do that in order to then build that skill up and then come out the other side. Oh, maybe it's still getting worse. Who knows? Alan 1779.

59:02What were you doing in Utah? I was giving a keynote at first ever keynote that I've given, which is pretty fun. And I did that for a convention thing for a group of people that are part of a huge mastermind, 500 people. That was cool. And then the guy said, what are you doing at 5 .30am? And I I said, sleeping and they said, let's go skiing. And I've never skied before. So I got to go halfway up. I got to go to the top of the start of a hill. I got to go to the top of the start of a hill before the actual hill begins. And I got to play about skiing. And that was pretty cool. It's fun to do something, to feel like you're in a place for a really short space of time and you got loads done.

59:48Utah was beautiful though, especially being in Austin, which is just flat as a fart everywhere. There's just no hills, the entire place is super flat. And then to be in Salt Lake City, for the people that have never been, imagine a huge mountain range in a U -shape and then a lake. And someone looked at the gap in between the horseshoe of the mountains and the lake and said, let's make a city there. And that's Utah, or at least that Salt Lake City. Simon Day 1714. Huge geese. Thank you. My question is how, slash, when you decide to push back on ideas of your guest or if that is something you consider.

1:00:28Great question, man. So I've mentioned this before. My therapy speak again. My people pleasing nature is so strong. I don't want to upset people. I don't want to make people feel uncomfortable. And my cringe meter is like, to be totally hyper attuned. It's something that I'm actively working harder at. And I totally get it that if you're Ben Shapiro or Destiny or Hassan Abbey or Jeremy Paxman or Douglas Murio or whatever, to them it just seems effortless for them to find some criticism or to sit in the discomfort of saying something that makes the other person feel really uncomfortable or difficult and to just sit in it.

1:01:15Like I was talking about with that sign, say the thing and just leave it there. That is such a huge, it's a genuinely difficult challenge for me. And for other people that make them easily in the same way as for me, staying fit make them easily. And for somebody else going to the gym might be an absolute nightmare. That's something I'm genuinely, genuinely actively working on. I tried hard with the Eric Weinstein episode. There was a bit where he brought up something that I really don't agree with to do with sex and gender classification. One step at a time, but that probably should have been the what you're looking to work on this year.

1:01:50Like my disagreeability, my skepticism, my scrutiny within the episodes, and also in my personal life of just being able to say what I mean and say what I think without worrying about how it's going to make the other person feel. like it's not being impolite, it's being honest and that is, that's a big, if I can get that, now I'm confident that I can, but when I get that, I think that'll be a really big change. But you're like observing me go through quite a big transformation, I suppose, at the moment going from wherever I was to whatever it's going to be for probably the next couple of years, It was pretty well set up until about a year ago or so.

1:02:33Then the last year has been tons of change. And then especially the last six months has been so much change. And coming out the other side, I'm hoping that it's going to be a little bit less change. Because the, yeah, things like growing as much as they have is, is odd. And this is something I have to develop, something I have to get better at. And I'm trying. And I really hope that you guys have faith in me and believe that I am doing it. Fab -Boo -lean, 7039. Congrats on 1 .75 mil. Thank you very much. By the time you've seen it, it's probably close to about two mil. Yes, it is. Have you ever thought about interviewing more musicians?

1:03:11I think someone like John Mayer would make for a fascinating conversation. Never spoken to John Mayer. Never seen him. But yes, I would love to. I tried to get sleep -token. I know that's a bit of a difficult ask given that they're pseudonymous and also don't talk, but then to the drummer, I think it's two or three, did a drum thing on YouTube. That was pretty cool. So yeah, I'd love to. Eric Pritz was someone that would be interested to talk to. I know that Oliver Tree, I think it's called. I know that he's floating around and he seems really, really interesting. Also Oliver Heldens, I met in Guatemala about a year ago and he's pretty interesting dude, totally sober, like interesting guy.

1:03:52So yeah, I'd love to. Fried again, I mean, God, if I could get that guy on, that would be amazing. But let me know, any suggestions? Molly is. A -R -R -409. When are you getting Jonathan Height on the podcast? His new book is coming out soon and his work aligns with a lot of the things you talk about in your podcast. Things like social media addiction, mental health, amongst young people, and the increasing social ineptitude of young adults. He is booked on. I've got him on for his new book, which is called the anxious generation. I think, I really hope I've got that right, but everyone should check out John Heitzwerk.

1:04:28It's really good, very incisive, and he'll be on within the next month or so.

1:04:35Naomi GX4RC. How do you ensure each episode provides a value to your audience?

1:04:45As long as it provides value to me, I assume that some non -zero number of people in the audience will also find value from it. It's too hard. It genuinely isn't. It doesn't work. I've tried it a while ago and it really doesn't work to think, what do I need to do to make the audience happy? Because I am not you guys. I am me. So the only thing that I can do is follow my curiosity and follow my instinct and be like, this ad value to me and just assumed I'm an avatar for you. And again, this is what I meant. I don't mean to keep coming back to it, but this is what I meant about not wanting to de -centitize myself to

1:05:31seeing myself as part of, as an extension of the audience itself, as like just the guy at the tip of the spear and then everybody else being downstream from that, because I want to continue to just do things to be as representative as possible, to like have, to be as open and as messy as I've been today. I'm usually much slicker than this, but I'm trying to work hard to be more honest and more open emotionally about what it is that's going on. And if I do that, I have to assume that some non -zero number of people in the audience are feeling the same thing. Even if the situation's different, they're not in Austin, they're not a podcaster, they're not British, they're not whatever.

1:06:12I have to assume that there is a good chunk of people that like that. And that was what I always wanted. I always wanted someone that was a couple of steps ahead of my journey telling me about what the path ahead was like. Here are some pitfalls. Here are some ways that you can expedite success. Here are some things I did that didn't work. Here are some things I did that did work. And if I just keep doing that, I have to... It's the only thing I know. It's the most authentic, and it's the most honest, and it's the only way that I can do it. And if it provides value to me, hopefully, it'll provide value to you guys too.

1:06:45So that's my totally unsfisked strategy. Sandor Klegane, cool name. Outside of the US and the UK, where are some of the countries you've enjoyed visiting the most? What's on the top of your list of places you'd like to visit in future? Great question. This is a simple one, isn't it? I don't need to speak to my therapist about this.

1:07:07Bali was very good. That's the most quintessential white guy I could have said. Bali was really good. Thailand was okay. I very much enjoyed Pi up north and I very much enjoyed Kosamui. I think that Pakeet is a shithole and I think that Changmai is a little bit of a shithole and I think that Bangkok is a huge shithole. Whereas for being that I've enjoyed, Guatemala was cool, alone not super safe. Medellin in Colombia was awesome, in Camino 13 was super, super dope. Rome is my favorite city on the planet, and Athens was also phenomenal. I just love history. So those are great places. Top of the list of places I would like to visit in future.

1:07:58I'd love to do Venice. I've already done Florence, which was phenomenal. Anywhere that's got history, Egypt I'd like to do. Japan I would like to do. There's a ton of places. I've still never even touched Australia. I've got this weird obsession with Antarctica as well, so I'd love to go there, see the wall. There's a lot of places. Rohan Maghade. Can you tell us about your spiritual beliefs? Ah, minimal, I guess. I don't know what spiritual beliefs are. I have a bunch of friends. One of my good friends that works for us, Ben is Mormon and he loves his faith and I went to a ripen cathedral with him and his wife and my mum on Christmas Eve this year.

1:08:50And that relatively low. Mum's a raky master, so she's spent a long time doing distant healing and she does stuff with crystals and she talks about the moon and stuff like that. And that's, I really enjoy that. But for me, faith is a gift that I'm yet to be given. So I guess we'll wait and see if that changes. I'm an Austin. Dan Henson. How do you get so many great guests on your podcast? How did you start? Send DMs, bro. Honestly, the number of people that just respond to DMs, especially if it's a brief and if it is respectful and it's easy to respond to, you'll be surprised how many people will just say yes.

1:09:36So just start throwing them out and also networking. Like once you get to, you know, the middle level or above guests, it really only comes by referral unless they're a fan of what you do already and you've got a real sort of warm lead in. But even now, if I want to bring, I wanted to bring Jocco Willink on the podcast. There's a lady who follows the show, that's a fan of the show, who'd tagged me in a story and I'd reposted it, and then she'd heard me say I wanted Jocco and she's like, oh, I did some writing with Jocco, and then she looped me in. So I was the most tenuous of connections to get Jocco Willink on, and that was two years ago.

1:10:15So Network Hard, Sandeums. That's literally all I've done. small, chief, congrats. Thank you. How do you ensure that you continue to push content that you stand by and not just for trends or views? Again, it just, it has to be, am I interested in speaking to this person? And I'm not always sure, right? Because like, there's sometimes people that you're not sure if they're going to be interesting. And you're like, oh, that box sounds all right. Oh, that documentary sounds okay. Oh, I enjoyed that episode that they did that. And then you don't, the conversation can be of varying levels of, of interestingness.

1:10:52But I can always tell because the morning that I wake up when I've got that episode later that day, if I am absolutely fired up and I just can't wait to get training out of the way and to leave it and to do all the rest of it and sit down and have a conversation. And I'm prepping with them and then I have a conversation. I'm super excited. The excitement in In advance, 99 .9 % of the time is a great indicator. It's going to be an amazing episode and it's very rarely wrong. And then there's other times, so I'm like, I'm going to, you know, we'll see how this person goes and blown away. And then very rarely, I have an episode and I'm like, hmm, that was okay, like, but it wasn't phenomenal.

1:11:30I just need to spend as much time as possible, the way that I push content that I stand and not just for trends or views. The way that I do that is to just have as many of those days where I can't wait to speak to the person. Because I'm not thinking while I'm spending an entire day learning about this person and their ideas and doing whatever, I'm not thinking, oh my God, I can't wait to release this because it's jumping on a trend or it's gonna get us lots of views. Like I'm thinking I can't wait to learn from them, I can't wait to hear what they're gonna say to this. Oh my God, like this new study that's just come out about this thing, I've got to get the opinion on that.

1:12:06Just do that, just follow my instincts, it's just instincts. And this is something that I need to keep reminding myself as well. So even if it sounds a little repetitive with some of the questions today, these are things that are important for me to remind myself. And saying out loud isn't something that I do all that much. So this is a useful technique for me to make sure that I'm remembering it. This is a username 556, very clever. Congrats on this step towards 2 million and beyond in one of your talks with Alex Hormose, you brought up the idea that you can't split test life. What do you think would be the best way to prepare yourself for sash if you go all in on one of the splits and it fails?

1:12:45Easiest thing, is it a reversible decision? You can go all in, but is this a reversible decision? Because if it is, it doesn't matter. That's how you prepare yourself. You prepare yourself by choosing things that are right. If it is not a reversible decision and you still decide to go all in, in it.

1:13:02You better hope it works. Word, craft, sposs, seven, nine, all of these usernames are so hard. How do you see the fact that podcasts are more and more just profit oriented and therefore invite people who claim having a lot of knowledge, but only are here for publicity or selling their product. There often is an interest, conflict and contradictions, but oftentimes the podcasts claim them to be experts. But what is really true? I see this trend a lot, for example, in the Diary of a CEO podcast, would love to hear about that greetings from Germany. The final word greetings from Germany may explain why I had a little bit of trouble in speaking that.

1:13:46Thank you for the question. Do you see the fact that podcasts are more and more just profit -oriented? I don't know if Steven's profit oriented. I know that the team is very aggressively growth oriented, but I don't know if he treats it like a business more than that. We speak, last time we spoke, was a few months ago, briefly over WhatsApp. I don't know if he treats it like a business. There is contradictions, yes, but there are contradictions in every podcast. There are contradictions in this. I'd never soared with Brad Wilcox, who was talking about Get married, his new book, and it's perhaps unsurprisingly, it's pro marriage and then I've got James Sexton coming on who is a divorce attorney.

1:14:23It's your job as the audience to figure out how you sit within this world of people. If it's like, right, you had this guy on that's Proveganism, therefore you can only have other people on that Proveganism, that's not the way that it works, but the problem that you have and one of the things that I'm fortunate in this show that isn't as big of a deal for me, if you have things that are hard sciences, like there are facts about diet, there are ways that the body works, there are studies that can be done and research that we can conducted that will give statistically significant, reliable, replicable results, right?

1:15:06Those are hard facts. me bringing on someone who is pro marriage and marriage skeptical. These two people have two different perspectives on the same thing because they are different people because they have seen the world in different ways. There is no real such thing as seeing the gut in a different way or seeing stars in a different way. You know, different opinions about this stuff, but I understand why especially when it's to do with your own health, when it's to do with this sort of anxiety, what people want with health and fitness, especially from a show like Stevens is reassurance. I am doing the thing, oh, this is what I need to do, right?

1:15:40That's the, finally, thank God for that. That was the thing that I need to do. And if someone then comes on and after they feel like they've got the answer, that answer is then thrown into question quite rightly. That's gonna make them feel like, oh my God, I thought I just had this thing and that's not, hey, what's happening here? With marriage, like if you're coming to a podcast, for it to tell you whether or not you're supposed to get married, you're in the wrong way. place. You can find out perspectives and insights. I think that yes, it is if there is a show, which is prioritizing profit over communication and the quality of the guests and all the rest of it.

1:16:19I think that that's a high -risk strategy. But there are a whole host, maybe most of the conversations and the topics that we talk about that are on you to do your own sense -making about. You can read a book and then read a different book that has an alternate point of view. It's not the job of the books to figure out between themselves who's correct. It's the job of you to do the sense -making to work out how this is. Now, yes, a show is curated by a single person and should they be bringing in that other insight while I learned about this before and what about that and hang on a second. Yeah, yeah, probably.

1:16:56But it's an amalgamation of choosing your podcasts guests carefully and of ensuring that you use your own mindset and your own sense -making abilities to take all of the information that you have with as big of a pinch of salt as you can knowing what you know. A lot of conversations, a lot of questions about this stuff, which I think means that my insight around this, like, weather report of skepticism in my own podcast. I think that's accurate. Aaron Munt, as a man about to enter his 30s, newly single for the first time since 17. Wow. How do I navigate this new arena of dating apps were not even really a thing when I was last single?

1:17:42Yeah. Wow. Dude, I remember standing on the front door of LQ Nightclub in Newcastle, swiping on Tinder. I got to the stage because it was, Tinder was really new. I got to the stage where there was no more people in your area. It's like, holy shit. Imagine that. It would be basically impossible. I think you could probably swipe right for the rest of your life and not have no new people in your area in a big city. I would say you're in for a hell of a ride, dude. How do I navigate this new arena of dating? I don't... I actually think you might be a bit of an advantage here. I think that a lot of people are overthinking dating and obviously this is something that you're doing too.

1:18:23But I don't think that you need to. I think that if you're about to end to your 30s, you've been in a relationship for 13 years, you're probably pretty fucking good marriage material. Evidently shown that you're able to commit to someone for a long time, you have, you're sufficiently reliable and consistent that you make a great partner if you're looking to get into another relationship. I don't think you're going to have any problems. I think, go slow, don't expect too much. Be forgiving of yourself if you have a a couple of bad dates because maybe it is a bit of a new world. I haven't dated for a while.

1:19:02But yeah, I think you'll be fine. I think that you're already sound like marriage material, So you won't have any problems.

1:19:14Candila Ramotas, 367. Would you ever consider interviewing scientists studying near death, dead, and life after death? I became interested in that research over the last few months following my father's death, but I am somewhat skeptical. I admire your interviewing skills and would love to hear a conversation between you and any of those researchers like Bruce Grayson, Sam Pania, et cetera. Best wishes from Guyana. Wow, Guyana, thank you. I had a conversation with a guy called Paul Evans who had a NDE near -death experience, and he was really interesting. People can go back and listen to that one.

1:19:48Maybe it's in the hundreds, I think. Yeah, that sounds pretty interesting. I'll do a little bit of research on those people, but I'm kind of skeptical. I'm pretty skeptical, to be honest. But yeah, we'll see. I'll do some research and come back to you. Darren Collins, 850. Congrats, Chris. Keep up the great work. My question is, do you think there are valuable lessons worth taking from people who present themselves as villainous? Interesting. I wonder who presents themselves as villainous? People who seem villainous, perhaps. Well, yes, I think that there's valuable lessons taken from anybody.

1:20:23And this This is one of the problems again that exists in tribal parts of the internet, which are that if you're only going to learn things from people who you completely agree with, you are going to be defeated and outstripped and outgrown by people who don't have that level of tribal bias. So for instance, let's say that you were ardently pro -vaccine and there is someone that was anti -vaccine during COVID. You say that person was anti -vaccine, therefore moving forward, I am never, I'm never going to listen to anything they've got to say, whether it's about mindfulness or geopolitics or lifting or whatever it might be, I'm never going to listen to them.

1:21:12Well, okay, but you are going to lose out and it's kind of the same here, you know, I don't like villainous people. I don't know how many of them I've come across, but I don't want to be around them. I don't like the idea of them. But no one owns the truth. And if someone says something that's accurate, like, separating the message from the messenger and the artist from the art, I think is very, very important, you will learn significantly quicker if you can teach yourself to discover insights Both from people who you usually agree with and people who you usually disagree with because it basically Quadruples the pool.

1:21:51There are way more people that you Disagree with than agree with and if you can learn to take insights from them as well Your ability to learn will will increase an awful lot. So yes, I think it is worth doing it Kiwi Reese 05 when is Newtonic coming to Australia? Soon man I mean unfortunately your government doesn't like a bunch of the compounds we have in this the UK government and also doesn't like a bunch of the compounds that we've got in this. The US just doesn't really care, and we can put fentanyl in it and it'll be fine. But UK, we had to get rid of some stuff, and now we ended up with this.

1:22:25Australia is just unhappy with like the very, very stringent, they're equivalent of the FDA or whatever is super stringent. And it's not like we've got anything like insane, it's just effective in here. So soon, I hope, but I don't want to do some half -ast product that isn't effective. So if we can't get replacements that are as well researched as the ones that we do, maybe not until Australia changes their laws. Amy Robinson 4451, congrats Chris, absolutely fab stuff. Thank you. What was the reasoning behind the New Tonic logo and what's your favorite type of YouTube videos to watch? Okay, so this is this sort of this new camera's face tracking is going to kill me here.

1:23:08So this is an eye, it's a big eye, it's generated by I think Dali and the reason that we did that was we wanted something that you couldn't put down. And I think it's the most beautiful can I've ever seen. It's really, really cool. And as soon as we saw it, we just fell in love. You can go watch the launch video on my page. The first time I ever saw it was like, oh, that is cool. And then we adapted it and adapted it. What's my favorite type of YouTube videos to watch? I watch all sorts of stuff. I'm really into World War II history documentaries at the moment, which I think Shane Gillis calls early onset Republican.

1:23:42I'm enjoying that. I'm enjoying a lot of stuff around physics from David Kipping that does cool worlds. Melody sheep also more of the same. Let me know phenomenal YouTuber. a lot of documentaries, basically, those and some fitness stuff. Mike is retell. I can't watch all of his stuff. It's great. Ranjan Candel 2924. How do you pick momentum back up when you lose a bit of steam? Any reframes to change your mindset to feel like it's going downstream rather than upstream? Love the pod changing lives. Thank you. And I feel you with this. It's a vicious cycle when things are going well. It is easy to make them go better when things are going badly, it is more difficult to even slow that down.

1:24:28So, yeah, I feel you. When you lose a little bit of steam, it sounds so trite and I know that you're going to, because I would think this, you're going to think that's fucking too obvious and, and, and no, I wanted something that was more of a hack. Just start small and don't stop. Two great rules for this. Even the smallest amount of contribution to whatever the thing is that you're supposed to do, constitutes done and never miss two days in a row. Going to the gym can consist of one exercise, four sets, 15 reps, and then you're like, okay, I didn't want to go and that sucked and it was really low or whatever.

1:25:08Almost all of the energy, almost all of the activation energy when you've lost steam is spent on starting doing a thing, not keeping it going. It's all about starting. So you have to reduce the friction on the starting. That means environment design, read atomic habits by James Clear. You probably have to know already, but read atomic habits by James Clear. Or reread it to remind yourself of it. Even when reading the book, I can't be bothered to read the book. Okay, read half a page, read one page, read a sentence. All of the energy is deployed in getting over the hump at the start, not in keeping going.

1:25:38So just realize that as soon, beginning to get things to go downhill is it starts as soon as you begin the thing. Second thing, never miss two days in the row. Never miss two days in a row because if you miss two days in a row, that is no longer a mistake. It is the start of a new habit. Those are my two things and I use this all the time. Blue Wave 3417. Chris, do you think the podcast explosion is a good thing. Are so many platforms really a net positive or do you think there's too many voices out there? I don't understand this question. I don't understand how it would be a net negative. There's too many voices out there.

1:26:22I don't know what that means. I do think that the podcast explosion is a good thing because it changed me and awful lot. took me from being someone who didn't understand himself, who didn't know how the world worked or how to show up in behavior in the world or whether I was personally cursed by the way that I saw myself and people around me and the challenges that I had. And I started listening to people who had exactly the same issues and thought patterns and insights and fears and goals and dreams that I did. And the more opportunity that there is for individuals to be that avatar, to be that person who is like, oh, they're like, they're like me, but they're just no tiny bit more.

1:27:08And I can learn from them by being in their slipstream and I enjoy it. That's great. Is there a risk of people being too confused? Yeah, but that's on them. That's not on the, that's not really on the creator. It's like, if there's too many voices that there's so many shows and you don't know which want to choose. That's not on the creator side of things. You have a multiplicity of options. Continue to try them until you find someone that speaks to you. I think it's absolutely in that positive. I'd 100%.

1:27:40Mulaniac. Mulaniac. Do you have a process for balancing your own internal imposed high standards of execution, mental, physical, calmic, with grace learning opportunity to grow when you find yourself not meeting the very standards, that if you were to expect the same from another person, it would be seen as nitpicky and unattainable. Dude, this is very similar to whatever it was the first or second question right at the top. This balance between high standards and grace and allowing yourself with becoming and being. It's the perennial question. Listen to what everybody is saying. It's the same challenge.

1:28:14You, this is not some personal curse. You are not malignant or broken. This This is a feature. It's not a bug of the way that life works and it's something that I deal with as well. Do I have a process for balancing those high standards? I have faith that I tried my best and that sounds so trite and I wish that it didn't. It's like the Netflix and chill of the effort and personal development world. But genuinely if you tried your best, what more could you have done? And if you didn't try your best, what were the things that meant that you didn't try your the best and how next time, okay, it's the Conor McGregor's Coach, what he called.

1:28:54Conor McGregor's Coach wrote a book that was Win or Learn. It's literally that. And that means that you don't lose. You either succeed at the thing that you were doing. You meet your high standards of execution or you don't and you're okay. Let me have a little reflection on that. This isn't a comment in me as a person. I'm no less of a person for not being able to get this thing done. How do I take whatever I've just done, whatever failings I had, whatever have a pitfalls I encountered, change that, and then move forward and it won't happen again. And again, that's what the Nevermas two days and a row thing comes from that it's this very sort of positively looking forward mentality.

1:29:34Ryan, utter back. Congrats, Chris, is it just me or do women seem far more anxious of men than ever before? As far as I know, statistically male and female violence is the lowest. It's been in history yet. I feel like another hurdle I have to overcome in the dating market. It's being super sensitive to women's aggressive perceptions of men. I don't know if these women are ingesting too many crime documentaries podcasts. Wow, that would be an unseen. Who's calling out the crime podcasts? That's what I want to know. Crime junkie. They're ruining, that's the pink pill problem. It's not, you don't, don't be worried about the red pill, it's the pink pill coming downstream from cereal fucking crime junkie.

1:30:15Personally, I don't think it's that. I don't think it's I would guess it is a withplash overreaction to me too. I think that a lot, especially of Gen Z, spending more time in the phones, everyone has ambient anxiety. Also, everybody is observant of the way that others behave on the internet and they're scared of that scrutiny being turned on themselves. They're scared of being part of some, you know, all that you're hearing is the worst stories in the entire world, 24 hours a day, globally fed into your eyes and ears. You'd probably be pretty scared too. Like this is one of the things that a guy I was talking to over the weekend.

1:30:52Who the fuck is that talking to? Who is that talking to? I can't remember. I was talking to someone. I remember this insight being really interesting, which was, guys don't realize how much of a big role, fear plays in the way that women show up in dating. And it seems like this is true as well. I think it's me too. I think that what that did was bring to the forefront. There's this idea of, I think it's called collective sociality, which is what happens to other people is also my problem, which means that if some other woman has been attacked and it's in the news, which is being more exposed than ever before because we have 20 for our news and ubiquitous access to the internet.

1:31:36That's all that has an impact on my life. I'm part of this. It is part of this sort of communal socialization thing. And yeah, I think it's difficult, but I think that also you can signal quite easily, quite quickly, that you're not a creep. And once you've got past that and you've got into a zone of safety, I think that women should at least in my experience seem pretty warm. Alright, I think that's it. Ladies and gentlemen, I really appreciate you. Look, a bit of a different one today and maybe this reflects my, just where I'm at with the show, like I adore it and I'm not stopping, I promise.

1:32:14And I have no, I haven't even thought about stopping and I don't want to and I'm not going to. But I would be lying if I said that I wasn't in this weird transition period between this guy that just started a thing with his mate, Dean, and just wanted to talk to his friends doing it once a week. And now it's three times a week and we spend 35 grand a day to fly to Arizona and record with Jordan Peterson and it's advertisers and there's pressure to perform and we don't do that then we have 35 grand in the hole and that's not going to be good. You know, all of this stuff and scrutiny online, all this shit, I'm really hoping that I'm gonna come out the other side of whatever this version of transformation is.

1:32:57And like really be appreciative that I went through this. But yeah, I would genuinely appreciate a lot of support and stuff if you guys have got it in the tank, if you want to. Now all of the nice comments and things and feedback. Maybe the Ryan Holiday stoic in me shouldn't be as at the mercy of other people's opinions. and maybe at some point in the future I won't be, but I kind of don't like that. In a way, I don't like the idea of that. It's like I want to take compliments and all of the nice things that you guys say, I want to take that to heart. So anyway, I'm gabbling and I will let you go, but I appreciate you very much.

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