#811 - Tim Kennedy - Emergency Episode: Special Forces Sniper Explains Trump Shooting

31:16They take these men, they drop them into the, you know, a middle of nowhere area and out in front of them between 50 and a thousand meters, there's a pair of binoculars, there's a scope, there's a guy in a gilly suit, and And they have to, on their sector sketch, mark every single one of those things. And those are graded and must pass events. Like if you can't find those things. So you have these swirl searches, you have these grid pattern searches, you have the book up to right or left to right top to bottom. You're using all of these search techniques. You're changing focus from far away to up close in some of these static positions.

31:57You're not seeing movement, which is like one of the easiest things to see. But you're looking for shapes. You're looking for colors, you're looking for non -natural, you know, material that's not reflecting and not, you know, most natural things kind of absorb flight, not reflect like. And so there's no way that both of those trained snipers 150 yards is outside of the realm. It's not too close. It's not too long. It's not too anything. They're professionals. They're perfect. All right So it looks like based on your assessment that maybe they've been warned for some reason, they seem to have their attention very much on that building, we'll call it building three.

32:43And then they maybe see a guy, they come back up off the glass, they go back down onto it. Then first shot hits, which is the one where Trump just turns his head a tiny little bit, glances his ear. Then they flinch, come back up a second time, then go back down and presumably, because he gets hit very close between the eyes, I think, based on the photos that I've seen. You reckon it's those guys that delivered that shot. There's no one else. I don't think that there's no one else. We know that it was a secret service sniper that engaged him. The cat teams doing their work. So you see, yeah, within secret service, you have multiple teams from counter -sniper teams.

33:26You had Red Soul teams that are like reverse engineering and doing all the threats like lots of different really specialty teams. The guys that run up onto rooftops or ran up onto the stage wearing body armor with machine guns, they fall in that category. They're red. And they're like the direct action when you see the plane closed people wearing like tacky poorly cut suits with weird holsters. first, they, that's, that's, that's, they're there to protect the form present. The people that rush out with long rifles, they're there to kill people. And they're all right. They're the hammers. Yes. Okay.

34:12So let's talk about the sort of, what do you call it, immediate detail? What's what's the thing that encircles the present? What is that called? How are they selected? where have they been drawn from and what do you make of the performance on Saturday? Yeah, I mean, of all the bad stuff, this might be the worst, huh? And there's a lot bad here. And we're not even scratching the surface. And listen, I'm not I'm not like Monday morning quarterbacking this, you know, if you, uh, everybody to include the guys on the ground who are going to be way, uh, the guys and gals on the ground are going to be by far the worst critics of this whole entire situation.

34:50Um, I'm not saying anything that anyone else is is is going to disagree with with maybe slight differences of perspectives or opinions. But generally everybody in an AR and after action review that does a sustains and improves of this operation is going to come to the general generally the same conclusions. And and that's what we do after every single mission that we ever do is an AR and after action review. And then we break these things down by face into cat just like we are Chris. And in these These phases, we say, all right, this is what went right, and this is what went wrong and improves and sustain.

35:26So improves are things that went wrong. We have to fix and improve on. And then these are the things that went well. And let's continue to do those. I do not have varying things in that ladder category. And under this phase, which is shots have just skipped off the president's ear. man, are you really understanding, like, how one mile an hour win difference, one degree head direction in either direction, that bullet was already in the air when he turned his head to look at that graphic. No fucking way. I've seen the image where someone explained what a straight line does to the human head at a hundred and fifty one yards, what that bullet does, what's the stuff that backs out of the brain.

36:13What's the caliber of round coming out of that, do you think? I think it's going to be an AR. I think it's going to be 556 to 23. So it's going to be a 55 grain to a 77 grain traveling at 9, 2 ,900 feet per second. How close does that need to be to someone's ear to draw blood? Because presumably it could actually miss the ear and still just the, the pace going past. Yeah, those, so 55 grains to 77 grain that 556 and 223, That is a very small projectile that is moving really, really fast. The danger of that bullet is the energy that it carries because of its speed. Unlike a 50 cow, if a 50 cow gets near somebody's head, it's going to like jumble the brains.

37:00You're going to know about it. That's right. If a guy's waving in a 50 cow bullet goes through here, the air displacement and energy of of that bullet going by, I might blow that dude's arm off. That's not the same with a, you know, 65 smaller mass. Yeah. Okay, so right, we're talking about this, probably having nicked the skin then in order to have done this. This isn't, it was just close. This is actually 50 cent got shot. That's right. Yep. The row. And then, okay, so that happens, Let's say that gold standard, what's that immediate team called around the present? That's the principal security detail.

37:47Right. And they're the close proximity people. Usually bad haircuts, bad suits, they have all their weapons stashed up underneath them. They're wearing body armor not for themselves, but to throw themselves on top of the principal to be able to protect him. So they're gonna be their bullet magnets their job is to absorb any threat that if that's over pressure Like if that's a drone being flown in with C4 That's them to take and be like literally blood bags to cushion and explosion That's them being able to suck up all the bullets. You know if you look you talk about this a lot If we talk about the Aurora Colorado shooting, you know every time you tell that story by the way you make me cry Sorry.

38:33That's right. And it happened again on Saturday. You know what that dad did? The volunteer firefighter got it died. He threw himself on top of his family. Yeah, that's why he was hit. That's right. Yeah, give me that masculinity by the way. Yeah, let me rally again. All right. The God bless that family, by the way. So that detail, their job is to be looking out to anticipate, to prevent, and then in the worst case, respond and react by protecting and cushioning the literally becoming a human shield around the principle. That's what they're supposed to be doing. They failed. Some of them failed.

39:35Well, some of them failed for the whole entire time, but when you have a bullet that hits your principle, you have failed. There's no moment in all of this where you can be like, All right, those guys did a great job there. So, cyber, go ahead. What do you make of the criticism around female secret service agents that aren't tall enough for the principal that the head comes up to his chest line, that there's one that used him as a shield as she cowered behind? Yeah, I mean, just take gender out of that conversation, take sex out of that conversation. I don't want to talk about male or female. You're either capable of doing the job or you're not capable of doing the job.

40:21You're either strong enough to pick up your principle and move him off the X. You're either large enough to block that person that you're trying to protect or you're not. You're either trained enough and equipped enough and prepared enough to do the job or you're not. They're not. The women that were there, there's not just the one. So as as shots are still being fired and you see bodies being flung on top of the former president as he's down on the ground What an amazing photo blood's dripping off of his face and There is a woman Secret service agent that is hiding behind the president Not on top of She's hiding behind him cowering hoping to not get hurt when her one job is to put herself on top of the president.

41:12Go forward 10 seconds. The hammers start coming out. You see guys in body armor with helmets run out with guns. There's another photo of a secret service agent that is, here we go.

41:33So here's the guys running up the other way, running up the stairs. 10 seconds later, and this is one of the photos I was trying to find. 10 seconds later, you see all three of these guys with their guns pointed out into the crowd. Guess where that girl is? That girl right there? She's still right there. She's hiding behind the stage. These These guys do their up, guns in the high ready, they're on their optics, they are scanning, they're hunting. I'm telling you, if you farted weird, you're about to get around. And they were also positioning themselves to prepare for an ex -fill. And while they're doing that, there's a secret service agent hiding behind her principle and there's another secret service agent that's hiding at the base of the stage.

42:19Fired. They're fired. I like to say you're fired because it's such a Trump thing right now, but Department of Homeland Security New York is you're fired department went into secret service What's your name Kimberly you're fired every single one of those DEI hires in the past three years you're fired You don't meet height and weight you're fired you can't pass a shooting test you're fired You can't do a site survey you're fired you didn't know that building three at 151 yards wasn't the highest risk possible and allowed a due to clamber up and get on top and take a shot at your principal You're freaking fired man Everyone's gone gut that home and then don't get me started at the FBI of the Department of Justice who are currently doing the investigation Around the opponent to the reigning gut the reigning government the FBI that just rated present Trump's home armed They're the ones that are doing the investigation on the assassination of the organization under the double

43:16bureaucracy doesn't help when this bullets flying. How big of a deal is this DEI initiative? I'm always hesitant about taking accusations that it happens to be some women there. Therefore, there has been this huge amount of hires. I did see a video talking about how the secret service wanted 30 % female recruits by 2030. That makes me think, okay, this isn't just talking points. This isn't just a slightly oddly skewed sex ratio of the president's detail. This is actually part of a broader narrative, a broader push to try and get more diversity into the secret service. Yeah, I have worked overseas with capable, competent, impressive women.

44:07And again, this has nothing to do with sex. This does, male female, you can either do the job or you can't. But it's prioritizing diversity over competence. And that's where things get dangerous. So we, let's, we'll work from like mission. So the mission of the military, the job, the one job of the military is to be the most lethal fighting force on the planet. So with that, we'll brew that down into lethality. We are going to measure every single person's contribution to the government or to the Department of Defense into lethality. You either make it more lethal or you don't. If you don't make it more lethal, you can't have the job.

44:50So on Special Forces selection, you are going to have a Rucksack that weighs this amount. You will have to move over this distance at this speed and you can either do it or you can't. And then you're going to have to be able to pick up for the ACFT for as an 18 Bravo, a Special Forces weapon sergeant. You're going to have to pick up this amount of weight this many times. You have to run this distance at this like very clear can cannot. And the reason of that is because you are going to be capable of doing the job. You're going to be lethal or you won't. That's black and white. Doesn't matter who you are.

45:25It doesn't matter whether you're Asian. It doesn't matter whether you're a woman. It doesn't matter. Look at the NBA. Like I see a ton of young Asian women out on the on the basketball court these days. and I'm really, really, really celebrating the DEI of the NBA. You know, congratulations. No, obviously not. Like there's not a single one out there. Why? Because they can't do it, right? There's not a little tiny white suburban mom that's going out to the NFL offensive line. Be like, hey man, listen, quarterback, I got you. Nobody's gonna get past me, right? And then Derek Wolf is like, I'm gonna take the face off.

46:00Then we'll go kill that quarterback, right? There's not single one of them because they can't do the job. on the firefighter side, on the law enforcement side, on the military side, like these, on the flying a plane side, I don't care what color you are. I don't care who you have sex with. I don't care about any of it. You can either fly the plane and you can do the job or you can't. And what we're seeing right now is a really, really, really dangerous cross -section of policies that have been implemented over the past three years. And it's about to get really bad, Chris. Because all of these people that were hired over this DEI phase are now moving into legitimate roles like we just saw.

46:40Like you're not going to get hired yesterday or on Friday and then be on the principal security detail for a nationally presidential running election, right? That person was probably hired about five years ago.

47:01Here we go. How different are the assessment criteria for men and women? I'd seen something about it's the scaled version of the CrossFit workout for... Yeah, it's about 30 % off everything. And what are some of those assessments? Running push -ups. Some events don't even exist. Like there's a requirement for a man. but we'll just use running. So you have to run two miles in 13 minutes and 44 seconds. That's the man requirement to pass at 100%. The woman requirement is 15 minutes and 20 seconds. This is how they get tricky on the numbers game. They both still have to pass at 80 % for them to qualify for the job.

47:58So I can say, let's say I'm Kimberly at the Secret Service. Thank you for the appointment. I say, no, no, there's no change. They still have the same requirement. They have to pass at 80%. You're so stupid. What makes 80 % is... That's right. Yep. And they've been doing it to a few different selections, to a few different assessments, and for a few different job selections. What did you make of the ex -fill, the ex -filtration when Trump finally gets stood up, he says, I need to get my shoes. Apparently he's knocked to the floor so hard that his shoes come off. I don't know how loosely he's tied your shoes.

48:39He's got his right feet too. He's got a bruise on his arm. Apparently from where he hit the ground so hard, obviously from being tackled to the combination of falling ducking and being tackled to the floor. And then I hear like, what are we doing? What are we doing? Where are we going? Where are we going a lot? And then eventually he's stood up He says hang on and then he gets taken out and that really seems to kind of be a He doesn't get taken out don't skip that give it to him. What do you do? He's trying to run him down his face He's putting his foot to a foot a lot first Yeah, that's the heart of that man, dude.

49:14He is he's not a normal person dude. I you know, I I think I think it's the first time, I can say this because I'm British. It's the first time that I've looked at Trump as somebody who's genuinely admirable. I, you know, he's sort of gregarious and he's got this sort of strange way of speaking and he's not from my country and he's all of these other things. He's lots and lots and lots of things, many of which are kind of bombastic and out there and all the rest of it. And I'm like, I kind of don't really fully understand him, although I respect him, I wouldn't have said, oh, that's like an admirable man.

49:43You know, he's, it's very difficult to work out. And I saw that and I was then in playing golf the next day apparently sinking a 20 foot putt putt with a like two foot of break and saying unlike the sniper, I don't miss when he's when he's saying that's true. A lot of things have been debunked, but that has that seems to be the actual thing. Do you remember the Reagan? Do you remember the Reagan bit where the balloon pops and he goes? Miss me. Yeah. I really have felt. in me and I can again, I'm an independent, I'm not going to be able to vote in this country. I find him significantly more admirable than I did a few days ago and maybe that's just unlocked a character trait that I'd overlooked or maybe this is a genuine sort of pivot that many other people are going to feel too.

50:33But yeah, that was I don't know fucking badass. What can sue media? I really, I have for the past three days and I actually feel really gross about having to get information from media, because I think it's so toxic and it's unhealthy. So I don't know the man that everybody knows as President Trump. I know Don Jr., I know Laura. I know a from 2016 me going, and he's like, I'm in Albuquerque, New Mexico, he comes in during his campaign trail, and he's like, I want you to do the pledges of allegiance in the prayer and, hey, you better do it good. You know, he grabs my arm, he pulls me in like face to face, he's like, I want the pledges of allegiance to be like good.

51:25You know, I was like, I'm a professional fighter, first of all, like don't try to intimidate you like that, but that was pretty intimidating. So like, I don't, and so I've never, and I get that, and I really appreciate their kind of transparency and a perception of him, but I only know like this man that, when in Charlotte a few months ago, I sit down and he's like, hey Tim, I wanna know what's happening with veterans and suicide. We can talk about anything that he wants. And the thing that he wants to talk to me about is the border because he knew I'd spent time on the border. And he wanted to know about veterans, their mental health and suicide prevention.

52:04This is Trump or Trump, Jr.? You know, this is, this is Trump. And I mean, don't get me started on Don. Like Don's hilarious. Not his persona. I'm talking about the man, the hunter, the father, like, the guy's epic. And I judge a lot of people by their kids. And I know his kids way better than I know him. And I'm just, they're amazing people. So I'm glad that people got a snapshot of the guy that I know. Yeah, it's interesting. It's, there is no more costly signal than after you've just been shot. How you respond after that. It's very difficult to deny that that guy is built different. Yeah. And I'm not a sicker fan dude.

52:50Like this will be the first time I think I've ever complimented Trump because I was largely unsure and the way that he behaves doesn't make it easier to kind of trust because he seems so much like the WWE character that he briefly has star -dazz. That it's hard, it's hard, but now, and this isn't to forgive things he's done, whatever, like say he's a fucking saint. I'm like, that guy's a badass, he's an actual badass. No, like how few people, you're talking, like less than 1 ,000 people on the planet, who to whom that would have happened, and would have then stood up and said, wait, wait, and pump the face.

53:31Just finish off the roundout, getting him off the stage, getting him to the coffee. Man, this is just a cluster. This is like, as in furating and sloppy, as everything else has been, this was like next level amateur. So there's no command, Who's actually in charge of getting him off the stage? Clearly nobody knows. Where is he going? They had not rehearsed the ex -fill of their principal. Vehicle placement, wait, when I say wait, like his weight, their ability to move him? They can't do it. They have not practiced and rehearsed. They haven't gone and found a 365 pound guy and been like, like, all right, how do the five of us move this guy?

54:25Have done that. And then not knowing where they're gonna move him or how they're going to move him and then what they're gonna do with him once they get him there, trying to get him in that car and a cluster that happened around that car. Girl has her gun out, she's trying to look around, she tries to put her gun away, she can't get her gun away, can't even find her holster because her stomach is so large, her suspenders are holding up her pants. And then finally when she is like, I forget it, I'm not gonna get my gun away, I am just gonna keep it out. The fact that you're keeping your gun and like the on the five o 'clock of your hip, what security person on the planet is like, you know what I'm gonna do?

55:03I'm gonna take my gun. I'm gonna put it over my right bloodsheet. That's a good place to have a gun. What's the problem with that? You can't get to it. It's a slow draw. Like, we'll do this, Chris. I'm gonna give you a paintball gun and I'm gonna have you take that gun I'm gonna put it on your hip. I'm going to take a gun and I'm gonna put it on the natural line of my hands. Or I'm gonna do it in a cross carry, if I'm in a high position like this, which we call the interview position, which is how most of them stand. They stand like this, or they stand like this, or they stand like this, or they do things like with their hands as they're talking.

55:41It's because they keep their guns like here. So they can just go like this and they get a gun out. And then we'll do a three count. and we'll see who's going to shoot each other in the face with the paintball. Yeah, that sounds like a good afternoon for you, not for me. So it's about a half a second to three -quarter second difference. And then you add closed garments. It just gets hard. I mean, I've spent time around you and your guys, and I've seen people who are significantly less experienced than you handle weapons in Austin shooting. And it feels like it might be hard for someone that's not been around elite shooters to understand especially the guys from atomic legions some of the dudes that are competitive shooters who have maybe put similar sorts of numbers of rounds as like some soldiers would have done Their firearm is like the extension of their body.

56:34It even it's so blind do it in the dark do it without looking It's an obscene level of competence. What are you pointing at camera? What is this? That's a gun right there. Yeah, you came in, what we did, uh, this is another gun right there. Yeah, like, yeah. This is, it's just part of our life. It goes with us everywhere that we go. I shot 2 ,800 rounds on Saturday and Sunday of this weekend. This right here, that is a, is a callous blister burst from the trigger guard of my rifle, from shooting 1 ,500 rounds out of my rifle in two days. So anybody that is sufficiently competent and familiar with their firearm would not have encountered the problem of not being able to hold stood at weapon?

57:27No. Every shooter on the planet watched everything that unfolded for about 25 seconds in disgust and shame about how inadequate and inept that group of people were. So to kind of go back to the high level stuff, it seems like the pool from which the secret service is able to draw has maybe been derigated a little bit in terms of competence and quality, prioritizing perhaps diversity over just straight up capacity. Then it seems like the volume, the number and the quality that from this reduced pull that was given to Trump, that was dropped. And then there is also on top of that being probably a number of intelligence and sort of operational failures.

58:20So it's a poor pool which is drawn from to a too small task force with too few capacities which has been deployed in a manner where the intelligence and the awareness has not been done in an effective manner. Is that kind of encapsulating the... Yeah, in broad strokes and in wafetops, you know, when you get into the minutiae and you break down into those, you know, three gross categories, all of the different failures that they make in both, you know, selection of the people, how they're trained, who is hired. then it starts getting like wild because if you're faithful in the small things, you're going to be faithful in the big things, you can't be faithful in the small things, unless you're diligent and disciplined in the little things.

59:01And what you see here is millions of little decisions that lead up to a catastrophic failure. And not that all decisions were made, that were made were bad, but the vast majority of them, Now, humanively, clearly, the byproduct of that is a broken organization. What do you think happens from here going forward? Nothing. Four months. What do you mean, Samuel? Like, you think the government with the president that wants to win an election is going to be providing a bunch of like last night President Biden did a live speech to the entire nation about the assassination attempt of the opposing party's nominee.

59:55The first words out of his mouth were I fired the my appointed Department of Homeland Security Director. Nope, nope, those weren't. He never did that. Did he fire the head of secret service? No, didn't do that. The FBI currently has this 20 -year -old's phone in Quantico and they, you know, they're going like, did you read all the release about the motive and no, like they didn't do that. Why? Because it negatively affects their position of power. And there's no benefit for them to do anything better. I think for President Trump to survive the next four months to the election, the next six months to the inauguration, is he has to bring in private security.

1:00:45He calls up someone like you, or Eric Prince. Oh, we're talking. Those are good names. And nobody's better than that man. and talking to him yesterday, he very wisely pointed out every single way that they, when I say they, the, when I say they, it's just because people in power that want to remain in power. And in either side, it's not, it's still not like a partisan thing, you know, of the 10 people that there are assassination attempts against our prejudice. 50, 50. Yeah, it was 60, 40. You know, like, it's not a partisan thing. And they just want to stay in power. The Raytheons, the Hal Burton, the Dynacores, the KBRs, the Boeing, the Lockheed Martins.

1:01:40You know, they want more, they want more war and they want to stay in power. What would you look out for over the next sort of week or a couple of weeks? There's going to be a a lot of people who think, God, that was a lot of news and a lot of time, I don't really know what to pay attention to. What would be the things that you would say, hey, you're a civilian, you don't really understand too much about what's going on, but this is what I would try and pay attention to over the coming weeks. I think it's really important to listen to...

1:02:13So we got a very rare opportunity, which was to look past the stick that is President Trump. Now that you got a glimpse of what there is, if you won register to vote, I don't care what side of the party you're on. I don't want to hear your complaints. I don't want to see your TikTok. I don't want any of it. Go and vote in November. Go and vote. Go register vote. And then go and vote. But now that you got a little peak at the wizard behind the smoke in the mirrors, look for that. Go and look at a man and look at what he's going to do in Milwaukee.

1:02:57And then, and then go in vote November.

1:03:06Tim Kennedy, ladies and gentlemen, Tim, I appreciate it. Emergency episode needed to get this one done. I'm sure that you're going to be all over the news over the next couple of weeks as well. So I very much appreciate you finding time to speak to me. Anytime can't wait to work out with you dude. Soon. Alright take care.